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  • #581
Made me cry, very uplifting and proud of him and all who gave.

Bailey, I would like to see or read this. Do you mind giving us a link?
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  • #582
If China had shut the WHO out wouldn't that cause great attention and condemnation from the rest of the world?
JMO

Oh yes, it certainly would. That would have been an international travesty. In the midst of this pandemic, any major player that shuts the WHO down receives great condemnation from the rest of the world.
 
  • #583
I forgot about this element. I didn't really get it until it happened to my dad.

My dad was 99 and had to have surgery and during the surgery they had to put him on a ventilator - not for several days, just about 12 hours or so. But, to put anyone on a ventilator (all the people you're reading about) they have to be under anesthesia. So dad's experience was brief.

This man was frail but **sharp** before this event. He sometimes confused people's names, all the things we older people do, but he could tell you exactly which pass the Germans hid out in, when they came across from Austria into Italy, and which birds disappeared from our Valley back in 1967, and how there were suddenly more rattlesnakes.

After his surgery, he seemed to have profound dementia. He never got back to "real" reality, and the doctor said, "Oh, yes, this is the most common outcome of this surgery." Because of his age? She said "Well, can be any age, but over 70, it's pronounced." Why didn't she tell me? "I told you there were many risks and asked what you thought your dad wanted." I had asked dad - he wanted the surgery.

It was the worst part of his dying process. We should NEVER have let him have surgery/get on a ventilator/receive anesthesia. He died a bit later, but he would have been SO much happier dying in the hospital, as he wished to do.
I am so sorry you went through that. My father was also intubated (COPD, early 70s) and died shortly after.

I'm in my early sixties and I've made sure DH knows that if I get this virus and land in hospital/ICU I do not want to be put on a ventilator.
 
  • #584
Oh yes, it certainly would. That would have been an international travesty. In the midst of this pandemic, any major player that shuts the WHO down receives great condemnation from the rest of the world.
Exactly, that's why Trump cut funding and launched an investigation into the WHO.

The WHO shouldn't have gone along with China's claims and done more to stop the pandemic before it started. JMO.
 
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IS AMERICA READY TO REOPEN?:@DavidMuir interviews Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation’s leading expert on infectious diseases, about what needs to happen for the nation to re-open safely and the possibility of a second wave of infections.

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  • #587
I am so sorry you went through that. My father was also intubated (COPD, early 70s) and died shortly after.

I'm in my early sixties and I've made sure DH knows that if I get this virus and land in hospital/ICU I do not want to be put on a ventilator.

This is definitely a concern for me and my husband, now in our mid 70s. Once intubated, people need to stay on the vent until they get better, which could take weeks, or until they die. And after being on the vent, what condition would our brains be in? Would we have permanent brain damage and be a terrible burden for our loved ones? In that case I sure wouldn't want to survive. This is difficult to think about.
 
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I am so sorry you went through that. My father was also intubated (COPD, early 70s) and died shortly after.

I'm in my early sixties and I've made sure DH knows that if I get this virus and land in hospital/ICU I do not want to be put on a ventilator.

It was awful. I of course had his health directive, instructions and durable power of attorney. Me - just one person. And ultimately I had to sign for that decision. I was thinking about "anesthesia risk" as a statistic, I did not know that nearly all seniors who come out of longer use of anesthesia/intubation suddenly crumble and look like Alzheimer's patients. My dad's great fear. Ever. His greatest fear - and I had signed papers to expose him to it.

At the same time, the darned rascal insisted on doing everything himself, as much as he could, so he fell and broke a hip. He was SO ready to go. Yet, since he had heard that some people had had their hips fixed and knew someone who had (my mom), his belief in that procedure swelled up and he asked for it. Of course I consented.

But neither he nor I were informed of nothing more than a high risk of complications. Neither of us knew that the main complication was dementia.

Good news for those of you struggling with this: my dad, even at 99, still had some moments of lucidity and while he mostly thought he was back in his childhood (wonderful, really), he was always himself. His personality, even his sense of humor (not that he was joking, but his way of speaking implied we were to be happy and smile). He was himself (unlike the man in the bed next to him). So he sort of recovered from the intubation/anesthesia (again - they go together, at least at first and for quite a while).

But he was not physically or mentally able to live by himself. His cognitive issues were bad enough that a close relative had a really hard time not being recognized. I was prepared for that, but it was hard for me too. Fortunately, he chose to confuse me with someone he loved dearly, so that was good.
 
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I’ve never worked for a company with a company pension plan and neither has hub.
A 401k - yes.
Got to have a hardship exception to get that 401k money out.
I can start drawing social security at 67 and a half and hub is later than me.
A lot of us have to work until we can draw social security - especially now since our 401k is a lot less. We had just met with our financial planner in January and thought we had a plan and would be ok.
Well - that’s shot all to heck now!

I feel you. I need another job (still downstream of 50), and at the worst of our recent decline my 401k had lost 37%. End of yesterday I was "only" down 21%, though, so there's something :rolleyes:. I also had to go withdraw my Roth principal the other day for expenses, which was no fun. Hopefully the hemorrhaging stops soon :(.
 
  • #592
They let out 4,500. Inmates in Los Angeles yesterday alone.
So, they're saying their current crimes were not violent. Un, huh what about their rap sheets?
In California you can hardly get arrested for anything. Let alone prosecuted, convicted and jailed.
There is no way these are first time offenders.
The leaders like to brag about how our crime is down, which is a bald faced lie. It's because they're not arresting.
Speaking about arresting... I'll tell you about my fun NOT, afternoon today.

 
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Although would-be COVID-19 therapies like the malaria drug hydroxychloroquine and the failed Ebola drug remdesivir have drummed up excitement as potentially life-saving treatments, a comprehensive review of available data finds that it's still too early to tell.

The review, published in JAMA on April 13, 2020, summarizes what's currently known about medical therapies used to treat COVID-19, concluding that "no therapies have been shown effective to date."

They also found that there's no proven therapy to help ward off COVID-19 in patients who are not already infected.

"The article is a refreshing reminder that no therapy is yet proven to work, including drugs like chloroquine that we have heard so much about," said Dr. Kathryn Stephenson, director of the Center for Virology and Vaccine Research Clinical Trials Unit at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center in Boston.

Researchers at UT Southwestern analyzed evidence on major proposed COVID-19 treatments published by the end of March 2020 and written in English. They found no strong evidence that any potential COVID-19 therapy is effective.

No evidence yet for effective COVID-19 treatments, review shows


JAMA April 13, 2020

Importance
The pandemic of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) caused by the novel severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) presents an unprecedented challenge to identify effective drugs for prevention and treatment. Given the rapid pace of scientific discovery and clinical data generated by the large number of people rapidly infected by SARS-CoV-2, clinicians need accurate evidence regarding effective medical treatments for this infection.

Observations No proven effective therapies for this virus currently exist. The rapidly expanding knowledge regarding SARS-CoV-2 virology provides a significant number of potential drug targets. The most promising therapy is remdesivir. Remdesivir has potent in vitro activity against SARS-CoV-2, but it is not US Food and Drug Administration approved and currently is being tested in ongoing randomized trials. Oseltamivir has not been shown to have efficacy, and corticosteroids are currently not recommended. Current clinical evidence does not support stopping angiotensin-converting enzyme inhibitors or angiotensin receptor blockers in patients with COVID-19.

Conclusions and Relevance The COVID-19 pandemic represents the greatest global public health crisis of this generation and, potentially, since the pandemic influenza outbreak of 1918. The speed and volume of clinical trials launched to investigate potential therapies for COVID-19 highlight both the need and capability to produce high-quality evidence even in the middle of a pandemic. No therapies have been shown effective to date.

Pharmacologic Treatments for Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)
 
  • #594
A convoy of motorists protested Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer's pandemic directive, calling on state leaders to allow small businesses to reopen. Dubbed "Operation Gridlock," the demonstration jammed the streets around the capitol.

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"For three decades, Meshawn Maddock and her family have run A-1 Bail Bonds in Milford, Michigan. But just a few days ago, she said she was forced to lay off her last three employees due to courts being shuttered and jails being emptied to blunt the spread of coronavirus in the hard-hit state.

Instead of staying in her house, adhering to Gov. Gretchen Whitmer's stay-at-home orders, Maddock drove 60 miles from her residence to Lansing, the state capital, to join a convoy of motorists Wednesday afternoon protesting the governor's pandemic directive and calling on state leaders to allow small businesses to reopen so employees can get back to work.

"Nobody is denying that this is a crisis, a worldwide crisis, but we've also all learned to be safer. Everybody has learned a lesson in hand-washing, face touching and social distancing. And so many businesses and hobbies, and just everyday things, have been restricted by our governor," Maddock told ABC News."

'Operation Gridlock': Convoy in Michigan's capital protests stay-at-home orders
 
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TIMELINE with LINKS:
China informed WHO of the outbreak in Wuhan of unknown cause: December 31, 2019, WHO | Pneumonia of unknown cause – China

Taiwanese health officials alerted WHO of the infectivity of coronavirus: December 31, 2019, Taiwan Says It Warned WHO About Coronavirus In December, But Its Warnings Were Ignored | The Daily Caller , Subscribe to read | Financial Times

Taiwan started boarding planes arriving from Wuhan, China to screen passengers for symptoms: December 31, 2019, Response to COVID-19 in Taiwan: Big Data Analytics, New Technology, and Proactive Testing | Global Health | JAMA | JAMA Network

CDC issued a Level 1 travel notice for Wuhan, China: January 6, 2020, Avian Flu Diary: CDC Issues Level 1 (Watch) Travel Notice For Unidentified Pneumonia - Wuhan, China

CDC established a coronavirus incident management system: January 7, 2020, https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/videos/...19-webinar.pdf

CDC alert to clinicians to ask patients with "severe respiratory illness" whether they had traveled to Wuhan: January 8, 2020, HAN Archive - 00424 | Health Alert Network (HAN)

WHO recommends against international travel restrictions: January 10, 2020, WHO advice for international travel and trade in relation to the outbreak of pneumonia caused by a new coronavirus in China


Covid-19 coronavirus DNA sequence communicated to WHO: January 11 and 12, 2020, WHO | Novel Coronavirus – China

WHO claimed "no clear evidence of human to human transmission": January 12, 2020, WHO | Novel Coronavirus – China

WHO claimed "there has been no suggestion of human to human transmission of this new coronavirus": January 13, 2020, Novel coronavirus in Thailand


WHO claimed "there is no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission": January 14, 2020, WHO | Novel Coronavirus – Thailand (ex-China)

China/WHO claimed no evidence of human to human transmission of corona virus: January 14, 2020, World Health Organization (WHO) on Twitter: , "World Health Organization (WHO)
@who
Jan 14
 
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TIMELINE pt 2:

WHO claimed "there is no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission": January 14, 2020, WHO | Novel Coronavirus – Thailand (ex-China)

China/WHO claimed no evidence of human to human transmission of corona virus: January 14, 2020, World Health Organization (WHO) on Twitter: , "World Health Organization (WHO)
@who
Jan 14
Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel #coronavirus (2019-nCoV) identified in #Wuhan, #China."

Nancy Pelosi signed impeachment articles and doled out impeachment pens: January 15, 2020, Pelosi doles out impeachment pens, a signing tradition

The US started screening arriving passengers from China: January 17, 2020, JFK, SFO, LAX Travelers from Wuhan, China, screened for new virus at US airports - Business Insider ; O'Hare and Hartsfield-Jackson January 22, 2020, U.S. airports are screening travelers from China for the coronavirus - The Washington Post

Dr. Fauci announces the National Institutes of Health working developing a vaccine for coronavirus: January 20, 2020, Vaccine for new Chinese coronavirus in the works - CNN

CDC activated its emergency operations center: January 20, 2020, CDC Emergency Operations Center Activations | CDC

First acknowledgement by China and WHO of human-human transmission of coronavirus: January 20, 2020, https://abcnews.go.com/Health/human-...ry?id=68403105

First confirmed coronavirus case in the US announced: January 20, 2020, First Travel-related Case of 2019 Novel Coronavirus Detected in United States | CDC Online Newsroom | CDC

Pharmaceuticals company working with US government to develop vaccine: January 22, 2020, Moderna, https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/22/mode...ronavirus.html

CDC sought “special emergency authorization” from FDA to allow states to use its coronavirus test: January 23, 2020, U.S. health officials seek emergency approval to use diagnostic test for new coronavirus - Reuters

Wuhan and other cities in Hubei Province shut down travel: January 23, 2020, Five million people left Wuhan before the lockdown, where did they go? - CGTN

White House announced the formation of the Coronavirus Task Force: January 29, 2020, White House announces task force to monitor coronavirus | TheHill

US personnel evacuated from Wuhan: January 29, 2020, https://abcnews.go.com/US/us-charter...ry?id=68571310

Trump declared a public health emergency: January 31, 2020, https://abcnews.go.com/Health/delta-...ry?id=68666037

State Department raised the travel advisory for China to Level 4, do not travel: January 31, 2020, Coronavirus: American, Delta, United cancel China mainland flights

People entering the US from China forbidden: Announced January 31, 2020, effective February 2, 2020, Travel restrictions go into effect to combat coronavirus spread in US - CNN This effectively ended flights from and to China, for obvious reasons.

WHO Director-General states that a travel ban is not needed: February 3, 2020, WHO chief says widespread travel bans not needed to beat China virus - Reuters , WHO Director-Generals opening remarks at the technical briefing on 2019 novel coronavirus


CDC had a team ready to travel to China: February 3, 2020, WHO virus team could go to China this week, may include U.S. - officials - Reuters

HHS, Regeneron Collaborate to Develop 2019-nCoV Treatment: February 4, 2020, HHS, Regeneron Collaborate to Develop 2019-nCoV Treatment | HHS.gov

First House of Representatives hearing about Covid-19: February 5, 2020, https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/05/watc...-outbreak.html

Shipping of CDC 2019 coronavirus test kits begins: February 6, 2020, Shipping of CDC 2019 Novel Coronavirus Diagnostic Test Kits Begins | CDC Online Newsroom | CDC

HHS expands partnership with Janssen Research & Development for vaccine development: February 11, 2020, HHS, Janssen Join Forces On Coronavirus Vaccine | HHS.gov

HHS to work with Sanofi Pasteur to develop coronavirus vaccine and treatment: February 18, 2020, Sanofi announces it will work with HHS to develop coronavirus vaccine

An NIH clinical trial of Remdesivir begun: February 25, 2020, at University of Nebraska Medical Center, NIH clinical trial of remdesivir to treat COVID-19 begins | National Institutes of Health (NIH)

Experimental vaccine submitted for testing: February 26, 2020, Moderna, Coronavirus vaccine is ready for first tests, says Biotech company Moderna - CNN

Testing labs allowed to use tests whose FDA Emergency Use Authorization requests are still pending: February 29, 2020, Coronavirus (COVID-19) Update: FDA Issues New Policy to Help Expedite Availability of Diagnostics | FDA

Level 4 travel advisory to Italy, South Korea: February 29, 2020, Coronavirus travel advisory: Trump issues Italy, South Korea warning

Iran travel ban announced: February 29, 2020, Trump expands coronavirus travel ban to include Iran - STAT

CDC lifted federal restrictions on coronavirus testing: March 4, 2020, Interim Guidance: Healthcare Professionals 2019-nCoV | CDC

Trump and VP Pence met with health insurance companies and secured commitment to waive co-pays for coronavirus testing: March 10, 2020, https://www.nbcnews.com/video/trump-...nt-80407109506

Army signed agreement with Gilead on experimental COVID-19 treatment: March 10, 2020, Army signs agreement with drug giant Gilead on experimental COVID-19 treatment

OyaGen, Inc. announced experimental treatment has been studied by National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases: 3/10/2020, http://www.oyageninc.com/wordpress/w...r-03102020.pdf , "OYA1", not yet tested on humans

Trump suspended travel from Europe: March 11, 2020, Trump suspends travel from Europe for 30 days as coronavirus cases continue to grow

Eli Lilly announced partnership with research company to develop a treatment/vaccine as part of the DARPA program: March 13, 2020, Eli Lilly Joins Race to Develop Coronavirus Treatment

Trump declared National Emergency: March 13, 2020, What Trumps emergency declaration over coronavirus means for Arizona

Trump announced public-private partnerships for drive-through testing: March 13, 2020, https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireSt...virus-69587547

FDA granted emergency approval for faster coronavirus test: March 13, 2020, FDA grants emergency approval for faster coronavirus test | TheHill

FDA emergency approval for Thermo-Fisher coronavirus test (within 24 hours of applying): March 13, 2020, Coronavirus (COVID-19) Update: FDA Issues Emergency Use Authorization to Thermo Fisher | FDA

Public-private partnerships allowed to open up drive-through testing collection sites: March 13, 2020, Coronavirus: Trump declares national emergency

FDA granted Roche AG an emergency approval for automated coronavirus testing kits: March 13, 2020, Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

HHS announced funding for development of two rapid diagnostic tests: March 13, 2020, HHS funds development of COVID-19 diagnostic tests | HHS.gov

European travel ban extended to include the UK and Ireland: March 14, 2020, White House adds U.K., Ireland to travel ban, hints at airline aid - POLITICO

Testing begins of Moderna's experimental coronavirus vaccine: March 16, 2020, at Kaiser Permanente Washington Health Research Institute, Kaiser Permanente launches first coronavirus vaccine trial | KPWHRI

FDA allowing states to authorize use of tests developed by labs in their states: March 16, 2020, https://seekingalpha.com/news/355232...onavirus-tests

Defense Department to give HHS up to 5M respirator masks, 2,000 ventilators: March 17, 2020, https://www.defense.gov/Explore/News...navirus-fight/

HHS to suspended regulation against doctors practicing across state lines: March 18, 2020, [current-pageage-title] | [site:name]

Temporary closure of U.S.-Canada border to non-essential traffic: March 18, 2020, U.S.-Canada border temporarily closed to amid virus pandemic - NEWS 1130

HUD foreclosures and evictions suspended for a at least 60 days: March 18, 2020, https://www.hud.gov/sites/dfiles/OCH...20-04hsgml.pdf

Carnival Cruise Lines ships available for hospital use (non-corona virus patients): March 19, 2020, Cruise line offers up ships for use as temporary hospitals
 
  • #599
It was awful. I of course had his health directive, instructions and durable power of attorney. Me - just one person. And ultimately I had to sign for that decision. I was thinking about "anesthesia risk" as a statistic, I did not know that nearly all seniors who come out of longer use of anesthesia/intubation suddenly crumble and look like Alzheimer's patients. My dad's great fear. Ever. His greatest fear - and I had signed papers to expose him to it.

At the same time, the darned rascal insisted on doing everything himself, as much as he could, so he fell and broke a hip. He was SO ready to go. Yet, since he had heard that some people had had their hips fixed and knew someone who had (my mom), his belief in that procedure swelled up and he asked for it. Of course I consented.

But neither he nor I were informed of nothing more than a high risk of complications. Neither of us knew that the main complication was dementia.

Good news for those of you struggling with this: my dad, even at 99, still had some moments of lucidity and while he mostly thought he was back in his childhood (wonderful, really), he was always himself. His personality, even his sense of humor (not that he was joking, but his way of speaking implied we were to be happy and smile). He was himself (unlike the man in the bed next to him). So he sort of recovered from the intubation/anesthesia (again - they go together, at least at first and for quite a while).

But he was not physically or mentally able to live by himself. His cognitive issues were bad enough that a close relative had a really hard time not being recognized. I was prepared for that, but it was hard for me too. Fortunately, he chose to confuse me with someone he loved dearly, so that was good.
I was also unaware of some of the downsides of ventilation when my father was placed on one. I hope you didn't blame yourself for anything that happened. We all do the best we can based on the information we have.
 
  • #600
TIMELINE pt3:
State Department global level 4 health advisory, avoid all international travel: March 19, 2020, Global Level 4 Health Advisory – Do Not Travel

US Mexico agree to restrict nonessential cross-border traffic: March 20, 2020, US and Mexico agree to limit non-essential travel across border to curb coronavirus spread

Governors remain in command of National Guard, Federals pay 100% of operations cost (all states): March 22, 2020, Trump: FEMA Will Pay 100% of Cost for National Guard in New York, California, Washington

Army ordered three army hospitals to deploy to New York and Washington: March 24, 2020, Army Field Hospitals Deploying To N.Y. And Washington State

Trump announced the USNS Comfort will depart for NYC: March 26, 2020, USNS Comfort Will Depart for New York on Saturday with Trump, Modly in Attendance - USNI News

Trump signed a Defense Production Act order to General Motors to make ventilators: March 27, 2020, https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/27/trum...ction-act.html

Trump announced that Boeing offered three "Dreamlifter" cargo aircraft to transport medical supplies: March 27, 2020, Boeing Offers Dreamlifter Large Cargo Freighter to Transport Critical Supplies Amid COVID-19 Crisis - DefPost

Emory University began enrolling participants for a phase one clinical trial of potential coronavirus vaccine: March 27, 2020, Emory new site in NIH-sponsored coronavirus vaccine study | Emory University | Atlanta, GA

USNS Mercy arrived in the port of Los Angeles: March 27, 2020, USNS Mercy Arrives At Port Of Los Angeles To Treat Non-COVID Patients CBS Los Angeles

Army Corps of Engineers completed construction of 2,900 bedroom temporary hospital at Javits Center in NYC: March 29, 2020, Inside the 1,000-bed temporary hospital at the Javits Center | 6sqft

Trump announced on-going study of 1,100 NY patients being treated with Hydroxychloroquine: March 29, 2020, https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/30/trum...hree-days.html

First FEMA "Project Airbridge" shipment from abroad, landed at JFK airport (masks, face shields, and other medical supplies): March 29, 2020, White House-led airlift of urgently needed medical supplies arrives in New York - Reuters

Trump announced Cigna and Humana are waiving co-pays for coronavirus treatment: March 29, 2020, Health insurers Cigna, Humana waive out-of-pocket costs for coronavirus treatment | TheHill

HHS accepted 30 million doses of Hydroxychloroquine, donated by Sandoz, and one million doses of Chloroquine, donated by Bayer Pharmaceuticals, for clinical trials and possible treatment of coronavirus patients: March 29, 2020, HHS accepts donations of medicine to Strategic National Stockpile as possible treatments for COVID-19 patients | HHS.gov

FDA approved Battelle’s process for decontaminating tens of thousands of N95 masks per day: March 30, 2020, FDA approves use of Battelle’s mask sterilizing technology at full capacity | wtol.com, (FDA has slow-walked this approval since 2016!)

Trump announced MyPillow, Honeywell, Jockey, Procter & Gamble, and United Technologies will manufacture PPE: March 30, 2020, : MyPillow CEO goes off script at coronavirus briefing - POLITICO

Ford Motor Company committed to producing 50,000 ventilators in the next 100 days: March 30, 2020, https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/30/ford...-100-days.html

HHS accelerated clinical trial of a potential coronavirus vaccine developed by Janssen Research & Development: March 30, 2020, HHS Accelerates Clinical Trials, Prepares for Manufacturing of COVID-19 Vaccines | HHS.gov

USNS Comfort arrived in New York Harbor: March 30, 2020, USNS Comfort: Crowds watch hospital ship arrive in New York City

USNS Mercy began treating patients in Los Angeles: March 30, 2020, USNS Mercy Accepts First Patients in Los Angeles, (3 days from arrival to start of treating)
 
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