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Brilliant -- thanks for posting.
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Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #50
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I just caught some of the Let's Go Crazy Grammy Salute to Prince on tv. I was shocked to see all those people close to each other breathing the same air! I looked it up, and it was taped on January 28, 2020. Oh please, let us have those times again-- all in the same room not wearing masks. Go away ugly Covid-19!
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But if they are wearing masks, they cannot breathe droplets on you or your food. Why wouldn't you want them to protect you from that? I sure would.I'm the opposite. I can't imagine having dinner in a restaurant where the servers are wearing masks and gloves. I absolutely wouldn't do that and hope that's not the plan
I feel so much better when others in the market are wearing masks when I shop. It makes me feel much safer in their presence.
It creeps me out. I'm not worried about catching this and I don't want to have dinner out in a hospital environment. Like going to the ER for dinner. Just no. lol
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“California’s Santa Clara county reports early coronavirus deaths
Two people in Santa Clara County, California died of coronavirus before what had previously been thought to be the United States’ first death associated with Covid-19.
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The county’s Medical Examiner-Coroner conducted autopsies on two people who died at home on Feb. 6 and 17. Their samples were sent to the CDC, which confirmed they tested positive for the disease.
The first U.S. death from coronavirus was originally believed to be a man in his 50s in Washington state who died on Feb. 29.
The Santa Clara Medical Examiner-Coroner also identified another early Covid-19 death from March 6, days before what had initially been thought to be the county’s first death.
It explained that all three people “died at home during a time when very limited testing was available only through the CDC.” Santa Clara added it expects to identify additional deaths related to the pandemic.”
Coronavirus live updates: China reports 30 new cases; White House says Americans need to prepare for more deaths
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““We know there was a person diagnosed in late January with the virus — but to have at least three people right around the beginning of February and late January already have the infection and two of them pass away means the virus has been around for a while,” Smith said.
The origin of these cases is believed to be within the community, Smith added. That suggests community transmission of the coronavirus was occurring in Santa Clara County well before the first U.S. case of community-acquired COVID-19 was reported in Solano County on February 26.”
First Bay Area COVID-19 deaths occurred in February, not March
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WOW!!!!!
I mean, I/we knew/suspected this of course, that it’s been around a while, as we know it is traced back to China as far back as Nov. 17, but to see this in writing...it’s wild to see it in print! It sounds like they already had community transmission in Santa Clara County in late January, not late February!!!
Two people in Santa Clara County, California died of coronavirus before what had previously been thought to be the United States’ first death associated with Covid-19.
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The county’s Medical Examiner-Coroner conducted autopsies on two people who died at home on Feb. 6 and 17. Their samples were sent to the CDC, which confirmed they tested positive for the disease.
The first U.S. death from coronavirus was originally believed to be a man in his 50s in Washington state who died on Feb. 29.
The Santa Clara Medical Examiner-Coroner also identified another early Covid-19 death from March 6, days before what had initially been thought to be the county’s first death.
It explained that all three people “died at home during a time when very limited testing was available only through the CDC.” Santa Clara added it expects to identify additional deaths related to the pandemic.”
Coronavirus live updates: China reports 30 new cases; White House says Americans need to prepare for more deaths
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““We know there was a person diagnosed in late January with the virus — but to have at least three people right around the beginning of February and late January already have the infection and two of them pass away means the virus has been around for a while,” Smith said.
The origin of these cases is believed to be within the community, Smith added. That suggests community transmission of the coronavirus was occurring in Santa Clara County well before the first U.S. case of community-acquired COVID-19 was reported in Solano County on February 26.”
First Bay Area COVID-19 deaths occurred in February, not March
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WOW!!!!!
I mean, I/we knew/suspected this of course, that it’s been around a while, as we know it is traced back to China as far back as Nov. 17, but to see this in writing...it’s wild to see it in print! It sounds like they already had community transmission in Santa Clara County in late January, not late February!!!
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He is probably trying to figure out what to tell you.
My brother asked my Mom's cardiologist that same question about mom taking losartan and some other Blood Pressure drug. Should she keep taking them, even though she is in a retirement community, and could be at risk of the contagious virus?
My brother is a retired medical malpractice attorney, so he does know how to ask these questions precisely. Even then, he said the cardiologist was kind of hemming and hawing, and walking a fine line.
In summary:
On one hand, my mother does need these drugs to combat her hypertension, and at 89, she is not going to be able to make any changes or improvements on her own. Without them, she is at heightened risk for a stroke, or related heart issues.
HOWEVER, he did admit that there is not enough known yet, with certainty, about how these drugs interact w/the C Virus. There is some evidence that it could help the virus make it's way to the lungs. And yet other reports are that these same drugs help the patients fight the invasion of the infection, so it is a complicated situation, and he does not know the answer, at this time.
So his conclusion is that Mom needs to avoid having a stroke or a heart attack, first and foremost. So the best course of action is to shelter away from the virus and continue her medications.
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“Health officials said Tuesday that new autopsy results show a patient in Santa Clara, Calif., died of COVID-19 on Feb. 6, several weeks before the United States declared its first novel coronavirus death.
The finding suggests that the virus was circulating in the San Francisco Bay Area earlier than previously thought.”
Autopsy: Santa Clara patient died of COVID-19 on Feb. 6 — 23 days before 1st U.S. death declared
Wow...
@MJPeony , how is it going in Santa Clara County? Look at these articles!!! Wow just wow!!!! And we were talking about whether or not to go to yoga...you guys already had community spread during that time!
So, if you guys already had community transmission in SCC, maybe you weren’t the only ones.
How many other people have died of CV that are not even known...
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This goes back to our conversations we all had about some here wondering about being sick in December and especially January.
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Again while this is a revelation, it’s also really not. It’s just proof.
The finding suggests that the virus was circulating in the San Francisco Bay Area earlier than previously thought.”
Autopsy: Santa Clara patient died of COVID-19 on Feb. 6 — 23 days before 1st U.S. death declared
Wow...
@MJPeony , how is it going in Santa Clara County? Look at these articles!!! Wow just wow!!!! And we were talking about whether or not to go to yoga...you guys already had community spread during that time!
So, if you guys already had community transmission in SCC, maybe you weren’t the only ones.
How many other people have died of CV that are not even known...
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This goes back to our conversations we all had about some here wondering about being sick in December and especially January.
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Again while this is a revelation, it’s also really not. It’s just proof.
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Now he's dead at 60 yrs. old.
Ohio man dies of coronavirus after calling it a ‘political ploy’
"... said Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine’s stay-at-home order was “bulls--t.”
“Does anybody have the guts to say this COVID-19 is a political ploy? Asking for a friend. Prove me wrong,” he wrote March 13 on Facebook."
Ohio man dies of coronavirus after calling it a ‘political ploy’
"... said Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine’s stay-at-home order was “bulls--t.”
“Does anybody have the guts to say this COVID-19 is a political ploy? Asking for a friend. Prove me wrong,” he wrote March 13 on Facebook."
Toilet paper hoarder seeks refund on 4,800 rolls of toilet paper and 150 units of one liter hand sanitizer
The supermarket director of Drakes Supermarket, John-Paul Drake, gave the hoarder a blunt reply.
They need to be named and shamed! Make an example out of them, like the cousins who bought 18,000 bottles of hand sanitizer and were shut down by Amazon for price gouging. The cousins ended up donating the sanitizer. Wondering, is there not a limit on how many packages of toilet paper one person can buy?
Supermarket manager gives blunt reply to toilet paper hoarder seeking refund
Man buys nearly 18,000 hand sanitizer products hoping to cash in on coronavirus. Then Amazon shut him down
The supermarket director of Drakes Supermarket, John-Paul Drake, gave the hoarder a blunt reply.
They need to be named and shamed! Make an example out of them, like the cousins who bought 18,000 bottles of hand sanitizer and were shut down by Amazon for price gouging. The cousins ended up donating the sanitizer. Wondering, is there not a limit on how many packages of toilet paper one person can buy?
Supermarket manager gives blunt reply to toilet paper hoarder seeking refund
Man buys nearly 18,000 hand sanitizer products hoping to cash in on coronavirus. Then Amazon shut him down
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As you said-- "This goes back to our conversations we all had about some wondering about being sick in December and especially January."
I honestly think it's possible the Covid-19 virus was around then in the U.S. Yes, back at the end of 2019 or January 2020. It's a shape shifter too.
I honestly think it's possible the Covid-19 virus was around then in the U.S. Yes, back at the end of 2019 or January 2020. It's a shape shifter too.
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After I have used it (very much diluted) for washing the wound, it must then be rinsed of with clean water. Make sure you do that to stop animals licking it or rubbing their faces against it. That's the procedure. Have you a link about what is the ingredient that it the dangerous one? It would be appreciated. Many thanks.
Here is a site that has a lot of reviews and examples of uses for pets. No need to take my word for it. Some use it for their pets paws ( note @margarita25 ) and mouths even and say it is very gentle.
Hibiscrub Skin Cleanser
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“The new information may shift the timeline of the virus’s spread through the country weeks earlier than previously believed.”
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“”Each one of those deaths is probably the tip of an iceberg of unknown size,” Dr. Sara Cody, the county’s chief medical officer, said in an interview. “It feels quite significant.””
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The newly reported deaths suggest that the coronavirus may have been spreading in California much earlier than was previously known, said Dr. Jeffrey V. Smith, the Santa Clara county executive and a medical doctor.
“It was probably around unrecognized for quite some time,” Dr. Smith said.”
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“Other indications have emerged that the virus may have been spreading earlier than previously known. The Grand Princess cruise ship that departed San Francisco on Feb. 11 had passengers who developed the coronavirus on board. Researchers believe that the virus also began to circulate in the New York area by mid-February. And in early March, researchers found a range of cases with genetic similarities to each other in the Seattle area, suggesting that it had been spreading undetected for weeks.”
Coronavirus Death in California Came Weeks Before First Known U.S. Death
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Santa Clara County had 2 COVID-19 deaths as early as February
“All three cases happened during a time of limited testing when they were only available through CDC.
The county medical examiner expects there will be more COVID-19 deaths revealed as they investigate death records.”
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“”Each one of those deaths is probably the tip of an iceberg of unknown size,” Dr. Sara Cody, the county’s chief medical officer, said in an interview. “It feels quite significant.””
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The newly reported deaths suggest that the coronavirus may have been spreading in California much earlier than was previously known, said Dr. Jeffrey V. Smith, the Santa Clara county executive and a medical doctor.
“It was probably around unrecognized for quite some time,” Dr. Smith said.”
[...]
“Other indications have emerged that the virus may have been spreading earlier than previously known. The Grand Princess cruise ship that departed San Francisco on Feb. 11 had passengers who developed the coronavirus on board. Researchers believe that the virus also began to circulate in the New York area by mid-February. And in early March, researchers found a range of cases with genetic similarities to each other in the Seattle area, suggesting that it had been spreading undetected for weeks.”
Coronavirus Death in California Came Weeks Before First Known U.S. Death
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Santa Clara County had 2 COVID-19 deaths as early as February
“All three cases happened during a time of limited testing when they were only available through CDC.
The county medical examiner expects there will be more COVID-19 deaths revealed as they investigate death records.”
As of April 21, there were 92,387 reported cases in the state, including 3,643 additional cases disclosed Tuesday.
New Jersey has completed a total of 167,323 tests with 44.8% of the tests coming back positive as of Tuesday.
Long-term care facilities continue to be a concern across the state. There are 10,744 reported COVID-19 cases at 425 long-term care facilities across the state.
There have been 4,753 deaths related to coronavirus in New Jersey with 43% of deaths, or 2,048, reported from long-term care facilities. Officials reported 379 new deaths Tuesday.
Of the statewide deaths, 57% were male and 43% were female. Less than 1% were under 30 years of age, while 45.5% were over the age of 80.
In New Jersey, 7,594 individuals with confirmed or potential cases of COVID-19 were hospitalized as of 10 p.m. Monday.
Of those hospitalized patients, 928 patients are in intensive care, 1,002 are in critical care and 5,064 are in medical surgical beds.
The state is using 48.22% of its statewide ventilator capacity, with 1,501 patients on ventilators.
There are 11,527 reported COVID-19 cases at 432 long-term care facilities across the state.
NJ coronavirus cases rise to 92,387 on Tuesday with 4,753 deaths reported statewide
New Jersey reported its largest single-day death toll from the coronavirus pandemic Tuesday as the state's top health official said intensive care units in the central part of the state were approaching capacity.
“We’ve seen that increase come from the north and it is now hitting the central,” Persichilli said at the state's daily coronavirus briefing. “Most of the critical care beds in the central region right now are full.”
She said a total of nine hospitals went to a divert status Monday, meaning they temporarily no longer accepted new patients, most often because their critical care units were at capacity. Five of those hospitals were in Central Jersey, she said.
NJ coronavirus: Intensive care units mostly full in Central Jersey, health commissioner says
Dennis and James Traverso grew up poor in Asbury Park, and as the brothers got older they never left each other’s side, settling just few blocks apart in Neptune.
Earlier this month, they died within six days of each other, both due to the coronavirus.
Their relatives believe James, who was younger by six years, contracted the virus because he insisted on being by Dennis’ side in the latter’s final days.
“They did everything together. Everything,” said Denise Traverso, one of Dennis’ daughters. “It’s devastating. We’re trying to make some sense of this.”
The brothers' bond was forged through their hardscrabble upbringing.
James owned a dog named Che-Che who, suddenly rendered homeless, ended up at the Monmouth County SPCA amid widespread publicity that has helped the shelter raise nearly $100,000 for its Compassion Counts Matching Gift Campaign. Denise said the SPCA currently is interviewing families interested in adopting the poodle.
Coronavirus NJ: Neptune brothers die six days apart; 'They did everything together'
New Jersey has completed a total of 167,323 tests with 44.8% of the tests coming back positive as of Tuesday.
Long-term care facilities continue to be a concern across the state. There are 10,744 reported COVID-19 cases at 425 long-term care facilities across the state.
There have been 4,753 deaths related to coronavirus in New Jersey with 43% of deaths, or 2,048, reported from long-term care facilities. Officials reported 379 new deaths Tuesday.
Of the statewide deaths, 57% were male and 43% were female. Less than 1% were under 30 years of age, while 45.5% were over the age of 80.
In New Jersey, 7,594 individuals with confirmed or potential cases of COVID-19 were hospitalized as of 10 p.m. Monday.
Of those hospitalized patients, 928 patients are in intensive care, 1,002 are in critical care and 5,064 are in medical surgical beds.
The state is using 48.22% of its statewide ventilator capacity, with 1,501 patients on ventilators.
There are 11,527 reported COVID-19 cases at 432 long-term care facilities across the state.
NJ coronavirus cases rise to 92,387 on Tuesday with 4,753 deaths reported statewide
New Jersey reported its largest single-day death toll from the coronavirus pandemic Tuesday as the state's top health official said intensive care units in the central part of the state were approaching capacity.
“We’ve seen that increase come from the north and it is now hitting the central,” Persichilli said at the state's daily coronavirus briefing. “Most of the critical care beds in the central region right now are full.”
She said a total of nine hospitals went to a divert status Monday, meaning they temporarily no longer accepted new patients, most often because their critical care units were at capacity. Five of those hospitals were in Central Jersey, she said.
NJ coronavirus: Intensive care units mostly full in Central Jersey, health commissioner says
Dennis and James Traverso grew up poor in Asbury Park, and as the brothers got older they never left each other’s side, settling just few blocks apart in Neptune.
Earlier this month, they died within six days of each other, both due to the coronavirus.
Their relatives believe James, who was younger by six years, contracted the virus because he insisted on being by Dennis’ side in the latter’s final days.
“They did everything together. Everything,” said Denise Traverso, one of Dennis’ daughters. “It’s devastating. We’re trying to make some sense of this.”
The brothers' bond was forged through their hardscrabble upbringing.
James owned a dog named Che-Che who, suddenly rendered homeless, ended up at the Monmouth County SPCA amid widespread publicity that has helped the shelter raise nearly $100,000 for its Compassion Counts Matching Gift Campaign. Denise said the SPCA currently is interviewing families interested in adopting the poodle.
Coronavirus NJ: Neptune brothers die six days apart; 'They did everything together'
Welcome to 2020!
I refuse to accept that. Nope.
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Other than the decedent died at home, I don't see that the health officials identified the person's age but I'm guessing that this was an elderly person and the death was most likely assumed to be the flu during typical winter flu season. It's probably a good thing that this person died at home or they may not have had an autopsy.
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“However, a group of Chinese scientists published a report at the end of January that found that out of the first 41 cases of the virus in Wuhan, China, only 13 were connected to the wet market — indicating that it was not the site of the virus' first infection.
Now it seems that the popular market, where hundreds of people gather in close proximity, might have been the site of a key spreading event by an infected person.”
This has always been a suspicion of mine, which I’ve mentioned before moo.
11 critical things we've learned about the novel coronavirus since the first reported outbreak in China
I have a suspicion it may have originated in Guangdong MOO.
Going back to look at Guangdong’s numbers again, but its hard because, well, it’s data from China lol.
Now it seems that the popular market, where hundreds of people gather in close proximity, might have been the site of a key spreading event by an infected person.”
This has always been a suspicion of mine, which I’ve mentioned before moo.
11 critical things we've learned about the novel coronavirus since the first reported outbreak in China
I have a suspicion it may have originated in Guangdong MOO.
Going back to look at Guangdong’s numbers again, but its hard because, well, it’s data from China lol.
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The article I read said two people died from same house, one on Feb 6 and one on Feb 17. A third from an unrelated property died on Mar 6. All 3 had CV19. I see M25 (TY) has pasted the details in now.
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I think the virus hides and can return. It seems to show up in every which way. It's a Shape Shifter virus. Can they say for sure after fourteen days with no human contact that you definitely don't have it hiding within you? Hopefully, it can't fool the antibodies using the glucose collected from survivors of the virus. It's not a crown, it's wearing horns, and it must be destroyed.
Saying my prayers. Good Night Everyone.
Saying my prayers. Good Night Everyone.
HOWEVER, he did admit that there is not enough known yet, with certainty, about how these drugs interact w/the C Virus. There is some evidence that it could help the virus make it's way to the lungs. And yet other reports are that these same drugs help the patients fight the invasion of the infection, so it is a complicated situation, and he does not know the answer, at this time.
So his conclusion is that Mom needs to avoid having a stroke or a heart attack, first and foremost. So the best course of action is to shelter away from the virus and continue her medications.
I appreciate this information...that they just aren’t sure. I decided when the info came out saying Losartan could make Covid-19 worse that I would take it until they had more definitive information. My Dad had strokes and my Mom had heart disease, so it’s good to keep my BP under control with Losartan and another med not in that category. I didn’t even talk to my primary care physician about it because at the time I figured I probably had as much information as she did, thanks to WS. And I really didn’t want to change meds in the middle of this mess. I decided that I would stay out of the way of the virus, but I’d just stop Losartan (with her advice) if I got Covid-19 because for now the benefits outweigh any disadvantage. Not getting Covid-19 is best for many reasons!
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