Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #51

[SouthAussie]

As in all things, follow the money. jmo

https://nypost.com/2020/04/22/sorry-contact-tracing-isnt-the-answer-to-ending-lockdowns/


Many governors are claiming they can’t relax limits on business and recreation until their states have an extensive system of “contact tracing.” It’s a worthy aspiration. But they should listen to the scientists who warn that contact tracing won’t work against the novel coronavirus.
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Gov. Cuomo says he envisions hiring an “army” of thousands of “tracers” to call people or go to their homes, notify them that they have been exposed to an infected person and explain that they must get tested and quarantine, if positive.

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On Tuesday, the National Governors’ Association told Congress that states need federal money for contact tracing. By some estimates, it would cost $3.6 billion to hire 100,000 tracers nationwide, and others are suggesting we need triple that number.

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Lancet Global Health scientists conclude that contact tracing will work when “less than 1 percent of transmission occurred before the onset of symptoms.” That’s the opposite of the coronavirus: Victims are most contagious before or just as their symptoms begin, research indicates. By the time they are diagnosed and asked for contacts, those contacts are already infecting others. Oxford University scientists also caution that the coronavirus spreads by too many mechanisms “to be contained by manual contact tracing.”

Our contact tracing app became available last night and after several hours over 1,000,000 people had downloaded it.

The app records other phone numbers within your close vicinity (via bluetooth).
If a person contracts the virus and is then trying to recall who they have been in contact with, the app data will be of assistance.

Our authorities say that at least 40% of our population need to take up use of the app, then we can consider further easing of restrictions.

It may not be anywhere near a perfect solution, but I think that at the moment we have to throw everything possible at this pandemic. Australia's focus is on identification (testing, testing, testing) and suppression of the virus, until a pro-active vaccine comes about.

COVIDSafe app downloaded 1 million times

 

[firebird]

So, the FD busts them. I'm not sure that was their best moment. Jmo

Not Whose best moment? The cops or the fd?

 

[Tadpole12]

Yesterday's video, don't think I posted it yet....

It's a good feeling to see the graphs representing the success stories of NZ and Australia.

 

[otto]

Malaria drugs shelved in Canada.

"Canadian health officials working to stem the spread of the novel coronavirus are warning against the use of two drugs touted some as a possible treatment for COVID-19.

Health Canada said chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine can have “serious side effects” and should only be used under the supervision of a physician.
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U.S. President Donald Trump has repeatedly touted hydroxychloroquine during his coronavirus briefings, suggesting its skeptics would be proven wrong. He has offered patient testimonials that the drug is a lifesaver.

But a number of early coronavirus studies have suggested problems or no benefit.

Most notably, preliminary research looking into the results of U.S. veteran patients using hydroxychloroquine with or without the azithromycin antibiotic used to treat the disease found no benefit in the use of the malaria drug."​

Coronavirus: Health Canada issues warning on hydroxychloroquine, chloroquine use

 

[CSIDreamer]

Not Whose best moment? The cops or the fd?

The FD. Jmo

 

[firebird]

The FD. Jmo

ITA. Sad.

 

[Sundog]

I've kept my journal going although sometim es I miss two or three days and am forced to try to remember what we did when. My journal is pretty dull because I write about what I cooked for dinner, what food we purchased, where one or both of us went (e.g. grocery store food pickup, local farmers market), what the weather is like, what my spouse is doing that's annoying me, etc.!

We have my grandmother's journal, she passed away in her 90's in 1990, and she wrote down daily the things you mention above. It is a real treasure for us. The ordinary days of a well-lived life.

 

[Really?]

never knew there was a pandemic in 1968- i was young then and lived in New York-

Same...........and same. Ft. Totten and then Manhattan Beach. I do remember being really sickly and on the couch. I was 7.......hmmm.

 

[10ofRods]

What is the difference between them being on the outside vs the inside, in terms of catching a global virus? The guy who had 44 years served and one year to go. If he had been released, would he have been protected 100% from being infected then?

No, but two other people would be further apart and the workers would have one fewer possible CV+ to deal with.

That's the logic behind it. To protect others, not just the inmate.

 

[BUF]

I just watched another wonderful segment on 60 Minutes about automakers making ventilators, etc for the pandemic. So many so willing to help. They are also learning how to eventually get back to their work with social distancing...wearing special watches that beep if you encroach 6 feet...made by Samsung.

 

[Sundog]

The person who last did mine is in a self-contained "salon" in a larger commercial space shared by other similar professionsals. She has what amounts to a separate glassed-in room along a hall of more of the same. She has one chair, sink, etc. There would only ever be two people in the room. I have a tentative appointment for May 1 lol :::fingerscrossed:::

My stylist continued to see clients at her home during the state shutdown, which put her at risk of losing her state license. I didn't go to my appointments, and still don't plan to. She has a 20-year old daughter, other family members, and who knows the community spread that she and her other clients could bring to the salon once it opens. I ordered from E-Salon online, and have the first shipment. I haven't used it yet, but if I like it, I plan to color my own hair from now on. Not sure about haircuts though. That can wait until it's safe.

 

[firebird]

My stylist continued to see clients at her home during the state shutdown, which put her at risk of losing her state license. I didn't go to my appointments, and still don't plan to. She has a 20-year old daughter, other family members, and who knows the community spread that she and her other clients could bring to the salon once it opens. I ordered from E-Salon online, and have the first shipment. I haven't used it yet, but if I like it, I plan to color my own hair from now on. Not sure about haircuts though. That can wait until it's safe.

Yeah, I've mentioned before -- I'm not high risk category and I'm not at all worried about catching this. Plus, I'm both a professional and deemed "essential," so I'm working every day in a somewhat formal environement and would like to look presentable. Me and coloring my own hair wouldn't end well. lol So, in my circumstances, I can't wait until they reopen. But everyone needs to do whatever they're comfortable with. jmo

 

[Really?]

Random thought......

I hope the age was of “ influencers “ is OVER !

 

[Deleted member 158085]

I've kept my journal going although sometimes I miss two or three days and am forced to try to remember what we did when. My journal is pretty dull because I write about what I cooked for dinner, what food we purchased, where one or both of us went (e.g. grocery store food pickup, local farmers market), what the weather is like, what my spouse is doing that's annoying me, etc.!

Believe it or not, it may interest others some day. One of the best non-fiction books I’ve read included some snippets of diaries - The Worst Hard Time. It was about the dust bowl, and it made it so much more real even than Ken Burns series.

Someday people will be interested in what we did - the little things - to get through this, from Kansas to Great Britain to Spain.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Yeah, I've mentioned before -- I'm not high risk category and I'm not at all worried about catching this. Plus, I'm both a professional and deemed "essential," so I'm working every day in a somewhat formal environement and would like to look presentable. Me and coloring my own hair wouldn't end well. lol So, in my circumstances, I can't wait until they reopen. But everyone needs to do whatever they're comfortable with. jmo

I bought a Wahl hair cutting kit and cut my hair last weekend. When I went to work I had a few people ask where I got my haircut.

I pointed at myself. One co-worker told me his hair stylist cut his hair at her house. It doesn't surprise me that there are some who are doing work at home.

 

[otto]

20% mortality rate in resolved cases. Is it the right time for people to be uppity about physical distancing?

Coronavirus Update (Live): 2,992,639 Cases and 206,883 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic - Worldometer

 

[24Roses]

The key sentence in this article is this:

"Republican Gov. Kim Reynolds is beginning to ease some coronavirus restrictions even though COVID-19 is still spreading in Iowa."

We have the same issue in my state......and....this is a problem. It's not going to magically go away. The only certainty is that it enhances the "uncertainty" of the future.

It's going to be really interesting to hear what Reynolds has to say tomorrow about her plans to really further lift restrictions other than farmer's markets and elective surgeries. And IMO-the daily confirmed cases in the next few days are going to be even higher than those this weekend. The numbers this weekend IMO don't include the Tyson testing in Waterloo that took place Fri., Sat., and I think today. Also, doesn't include the TestIowa people who qualified; that testing just started today. If I understood lately from her pc's or the news, there have been over 500 tests completed of Tyson employees and some probably before recently did go on their own because they were sick. But, I do think the majority are being done this weekend. Tyson Waterloo IMO has over 2,000 employees.

 

[24Roses]

Three More COVID-19 Outbreaks Confirmed at Long-Term Care Facilities in Iowa

 

[firebird]

I bought a Wahl hair cutting kit and cut my hair last weekend. When I went to work I had a few people ask where I got my haircut.

I pointed at myself. One co-worker told me his hair stylist cut his hair at her house. It doesn't surprise me that there are some who are doing work at home.

I asked mine if she was doing that, and she didn't answer directly Idk if she is or not, but it may be that I'm just too new for her to trust me. I will beg if we don't open back up on May 1

 

[Bailey38]

When I was a kid, there were sinks in every classroom K-3. After that, there weren't. But the teacher could supervise hand-washing and it was a classroom "job" for two of us to scrub the sink - right after recess and at the end of the day.

It was really good practice in hygiene. We used soap and water, which is way more anti-viral than hand sanitizer.

At the school where I once attended, even the outdoor drinking fountains no longer work. Kids bring their own water bottles. The bathrooms were once supplied with warm and cold water, now it's just cold and there's often no soap.

But teaching little kids to wash their hands is good. They can do it in batches. Of course, I think every primary grade classroom should have a para-educator alongside the teacher and that the teacher should get way more money for her/his job.

It was quite different for sure. I don't think health is taught in school anymore? Home Mech, whatever it was called, ha. You learned personal hygiene, cooking, sewing. You learned a few life skills, I remember several from back then - almost 45 years ago! They definitely need the hand sanitizer.

I wanted to also mention one of the Covid 19 symptoms, the toes. Is that anything like the spots kids used to get with chicken pox?