Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #52

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That children "just don't have the receptors to catch the disease"?
Hmm?
This could be due to age-specific gene expression. Kind of like how 10-year olds don't have to shave :)
 
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Ain't that the truth. I am about 5-10 years from retirement, and seriously, at my age, finding another job isn't going to be a piece of cake.

And, I have been hearing a lot of troubling whispers where I work about RIF. And also, from friends at two other completely different places.

If people have a job now, they better buckle down, and stay tight. We are in for a bumpy ride.

What is RIF?
 
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Dr. Hansen re pulse oximeters; Dr. Seheult re Update 62: Treatment with Famotidine (Pepcid)?

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ETA: Also, Dr. Seheult is going to do a live Q&A this week FYI here is info

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ETA#2 - He also speaks at the end how this disease indeed is more than a lung disease...affects to epithelium and will be covering more in upcoming videos.

I saw his Update 61 earlier today. It is really important information, so am including it here (I am not sure if you posted this one, but am assuming so..but I missed it)
But this information regarding the physiology in the epithelium of the cells ,and reiterating what happens to the ACE-2---is making this much more of a cardiovascular issue than a lung issue.
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I think we all need to stand in front of nursing facilities, and the homes of old people, and wear coats that say, "I Really Don't Care, Do You?"
The article in the post quoted in your post (from the doctor) focuses heavily on the elderly - but there's a reason why meat-processing plants shut down - not preemptively, but due to actual sickness. This is an issue that puts everyone in crowded circumstances at risk. So we have to invest in solutions to make our society and economy function.
 
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Yep, the issue is that folks that think that they have it are told to stay home until dire. Then too late for things to work? Like tamaflu??? in that it has to be taken at the onset to decrease symptoms.. but almost EVERYWHERE in the US they say don't go to get any treatment until pretty well into it. SMH
 
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I was thinking about this yesterday. All these huge city centre office blocks are going to become a bit redundant I reckon. The big corporates have realised they do not need ALL their staff in ALL the time as most can work from home quite easily, and I doubt they'll require as much desk space ever again. I hope it brings about a shift in the way we work - could be very beneficial for parents trying to juggle working with school pick ups and childcare.

But... what to do with hundreds of massive, expensive, half empty office buildings?

I still fear it would become a battle though... people who do come in to the office may not be as dutiful about remote meetings once they get back. I hope corporations realize they have to do some transitional planning---If they insist upon remote meetings for a while, even if people are in offices or cubicles in a building, they could evolve into a strategic plan to allow a long term remote/in office process.
 
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I'VE BEEN WATCHING THIS MODEL....CERTAINLY NOT AS ROSY AS IHME MODEL.
COVID-19 Projections Using Machine Learning
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The epidemiological model, which provides projections for 40 countries and every US state, has been included among the seven models CDC highlights on its website for Covid-19 forecasting.

Gu said Tuesday that his model is based on an epidemiological methodology called SEIS, which stands for susceptible, exposed, infectious, susceptible modeling.

We use a very classic epidemiologic model," Gu said, adding that his model is updated daily and he is concerned other models are under-projecting deaths.

Nationally, as of Tuesday morning, the model predicts that there will be a total of 153,373 mean deaths in the United States, with a predicted range of 87,409 deaths to 302,324 deaths.

Georgia's daily coronavirus deaths will nearly double by August with relaxed social distancing, model suggests
 
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It’s going to be a while before you can get your hair cut in a California salon again.

Hair and nail salons won’t reopen until stage three, as they are categorized as “higher risk workplaces.”

Newsom has laid out a four-stage plan to reopen the state’s economy in the wake of the coronavirus emergency. California is currently in the first stage, which involves making essential workplaces as safe as possible.

Newsom said that it will be “months, not weeks”, before those kinds of places are able to resume business.

https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article242358891.html?
 
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I still fear it would become a battle though... people who do come in to the office may not be as dutiful about remote meetings once they get back. I hope corporations realize they have to do some transitional planning---If they insist upon remote meetings for a while, even if people are in offices or cubicles in a building, they could evolve into a strategic plan to allow a long term remote/in office process.

If people are working remotely in their offices, then they should just work remotely from home. Why go into work and risk transportation issues, etc. if they are only going to work to continue to work remotely from their offices?

I need to go in to get some files from my office in a few weeks, and we are staggering this process. Because we need to swipe our card to get into the building,
we can control the times that people go in to their offices, programming the card access. I still plan to wear a mask when I go in, even if no one else is there, due to an older building and a concern I have about the virus staying in the air for a few hours if others have been in the building.
 
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Wow.




Mayor Bill de Blasio
@NYCMayor

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My message to the Jewish community, and all communities, is this simple: the time for warnings has passed. I have instructed the NYPD to proceed immediately to summons or even arrest those who gather in large groups. This is about stopping this disease and saving lives. Period.

(Mods hope this copy paste is allowed. Please delete if necessary. Thanks)

Here's a MSM link that discusses it.

Mayor Bill de Blasio to NY Jews: 'Time for warnings has passed'
 
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Yes, a common talking point for many it seems. :(

It's the high cost of being poor. We may see more pushback from society as more workers are forced back to their jobs in unsafe conditions, but many of those people are in low paying, low skill jobs, people who have few options and no perceived political voice.
 
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In the county where I live, nursing homes pay CNAs $12 or $13 per hour.

Home health aides travel from one high-risk patient home to another, daily. Their average pay is $10.50 per hour.

These employees who interact with our highest risk population likely can’t afford to order grocery delivery through delivery services, paying fees and upcharges. So many or most are probably shopping at Walmart or other busy stores, increasing their exposure and risk. In turn this increases the risk for the patients they work with on a daily basis.

Shelter in place at care facilities would be a great idea, just not sure if it would be practical.
Dr. Hansen re pulse oximeters; Dr. Seheult re Update 62: Treatment with Famotidine (Pepcid)?

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ETA#2 - He also speaks at the end how this disease indeed is more than a lung disease...affects to epithelium and will be covering more in upcoming videos.

I have a pulse oximeter-- i have been short of breath for a few months: i had an echocardiogram in early Feb. which was fine and I had a Chest CT which showed nodules: i need to f/u and have another chest CT next month. The nodules were not particularly suspicious for cancer: if they were the radiologist would no doubt have recommended a PET scan. I will f/u with that test. My SOB does not affect anything I do- I can walk fast, do house work- hit golf balls; it is more like I feel like I have to take a breath: not all the time. Since I am in Florida my plan was(and remains) to get back to Michigan and see my docs there and go from there. My own assessment is that it is probably cardiac related since I am 75 and have high cholesterol: that is just a guess. However, since the pandemic, I have been very hesitant to go to doctors here in Florida ----My oxygen level is between 95 and 97--- I read that any reading between 95 and 100 is considered normal. I also read that docs are seeing people in the ER who don't even have SOB but when they evaluate the patient's oxygen, it is very low, to the surprise of the physicians. I just want to make sure my oxygen is not low.
 
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This is a similar outcome with the hydroxychloroquine---"when used early". I think with this newer information (e.g. Dr. Suheult)... IF this covid has more dangerous implications for cardiovascular problems, blood clots etc., it really does emphasize that we absolutely need different drug protocols, for the different ways this deadly disease manifests itself.
 
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