Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #58

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  • #421
"The individual and their clients were wearing face coverings.
... the hairstylist had kept impeccable records that made contact tracing possible.

A hairstylist who worked while showing symptoms exposed 91 people to coronavirus


Hairstylist with COVID-19 served 84 clients while symptomatic, Missouri officials say — The Kansas City Star

“A Great Clips hairstylist exposed dozens of clients to coronavirus while showing symptoms, Missouri health officials say.

The stylist at a salon franchise in Springfield served 84 clients and exposed seven coworkers, the Springfield-Greene County Health Department said Friday. The hairstylist also visited a Dairy Queen, Walmart and fitness center, officials said. “

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  • #424
At first when Ohio's Governor ended the stay-at-home order and went to the "safer at home" order, I feel angry, bitter, and resentful. At high risk due to age and a high risk medical condition, it didn't seem fair that I might have to go back to work in the office, rather than remotely, as I am now doing.

But over time, I have come to see that I need to be proactive in figuring out how to keep our family safe as the reopening continues. I can't retire yet either, but I am following ADA acccommodation regulations, FMLA options, and tracking legislation proposed in the state legislature regarding options for high risk individuals who may want to continue to self-isolate. Many threads ago, I posted a message about the importance of public policy and working with state legislators and our U.S. senators and congress members, as we are their constituents, also.

Buying time is good, and if we can make it one more month and see where we are in early July - each month we will have more information and results regarding therapeutics, vaccine development progress, hospital capacity, etc.

In the worse case scenario, selling one's house and downsizing, and other such decisions might be necessary, so it is good to think about these things as a last resort, just in case. No one in their 60s or 70s wanted to spend their later years in this kind of situation, but it is what it is. I have some really great neighbors who are young families, and for them life is going on without much change. They aren't covidiots, they are decent people who have to raise their family and pay their mortgage, and also care for extended family members such as parents and grandparents. Everybody needs to make their own personal plan. The state should provide a safety net where it can, and people should lobby for assistance for their needs as a group, and the AARP is one organization that tries to do so. This is a difficult time, and may require drastic choices and actions, but every one has to make their own plan and face the reality of their situation. It has taken me several months to do so, but I try to focus on the options that I have and to generate more. JMO.


What a positive attitude!!! I'm sure it takes alot work. Exploring and acceptance of some, not so pleasure life changes will, attribute to success!!!

Hoping and wishing for the best!!!!
 
  • #425
The US comprises 4% of the world population but accounts for nearly 30% of covid deaths, according to current data.

Does anyone have ideas about why that is?
Because of our size. These 2 maps compare our size to Europe. If Europe was all one country they would have the highest rates. Think 50 European countries to our 50 States.

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  • #426
I think deaths from influenza alone are low but there is a need to maybe look at the combined flu and pneumonia deaths and compare that number to Covid pneumonia maybe.

Flu and pneumonia deaths are usually combined when listing causes of death, at least in the US and Canada.

FastStats
 
  • #427
"The individual and their clients were wearing face coverings.
... the hairstylist had kept impeccable records that made contact tracing possible.

A hairstylist who worked while showing symptoms exposed 91 people to coronavirus

OMG! I can't LIKE this post enough! This is why I cut my own hair, started using a WaterPic, and new drill type toothbrush. I am not doing anything that is going to increase my personal safety. I don't care if my hair looks dumb. It is a lot better than being dumb!
 
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  • #429
Work from home?
Where possible anyway.

Some jobs, that is not an option. I have resigned myself to just keep working. And praying, at home.

Back to my garden, where I try to control everything.
 
  • #430
It seems it will become even more untenable here once the second wave hits unless you are very wealthy.
It's already costing me a small fortune with the delivery fees, tips, price increases for basic food and supplies (when & if available mind you) and Uber or Lyft if I need to leave my apartment.

I examined my checking account & credit card statements, and although I knew it, I still got a good jolt. I don't even want to say what I've paid for paper towels and toilet paper, and my rent increase - relatively new lease falling smack in the middle of this pandemic: It was NYC outrageous!

I've rationalized that I want to be close to my adult children, but guess what - they can't control the behavior of those around them any more than I can. It's too risky for me. I'm on my own now.

I suppose the glass half full piece of me was hoping there would not be a second wave here, but that's obviously unlikely.

I feel defeated and still afraid and need to turn off the news.

Would you be in a position you could shelter in a less densely populated area? Even renting a small apartment or house in a rural area. Sometimes the reduction in cost can be offset. Lower utility cost, able to do contact free store pick up vs delivery fees, our stores are full, farmers markets tons of vegetables, organic meats, heck most of us have at least tomatoes, cucumbers, and squash planted, even in pots.

I've always thought we didn't have a lot "to do" in a small town, but during a pandemic, we're appreciating drive in theaters, neighborhood dancing in the street, kids parading the block playing band instruments, fishing docks, parks and walking trails.

Yea, you can classify me a 100% southern with a slight touch of recheck. LOL
 
  • #431
I like this simple concept from the article: "Experts are also credited with creating an easy-to-understand message of avoiding what are called the “Three C’s” — closed spaces, crowded spaces and close-contact settings — rather than keeping away from others entirely."
I am surprised the obvious isn't pointed out. Japan has a very high compliance when it comes to mask wearing. If you look at the photos coming from Japan, everybody is wearing masks.
 
  • #432
Thank you for your concern.

The call centers here are hiring!!! They just received the state contract to open a division of Motor vehicles and Unemployment Insurance because the state workers are refusing to return to work.

I have concerns, both of our call centers have State and Federal government contracts. Child enforcement services, Virginia, Tenn, and Kentucky Medicaid and now the Motor Vehicles and Unemployment. Now these folks are home with family and friends and computers with vast amounts of personal information, including but not limited to Social Security numbers, DOB, drivers license numbers, checking account numbers and more.

I'm NOT liking this work from home with all MY personal information. How can a call center protect MY information on 100s of computers in folks living rooms? We had one call center close several years ago close due to employees stealing credit card information. Yeap, Sprint and Verizon.

Imo.
Those businesses use a highly secured intranet. That's been true for decades.

JMO
COVID-19: Preparing for the ‘New Normal’ - Lexology
 
  • #433
So, we can't get back to normal without a quality vaccine. I am not a medical guy, but aren't there plenty of diseases that kill many people, where we have no vaccine, but we live with the #s, living our normal lives? What is the difference between COVID and these other diseases? The high mortality rate?

You can't give cancer, dementia, heart disease, cardiovascular illness, and diabetes to people you come in contact with.
 
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OMG! I can't LIKE this post enough! This is why I cut my own hair, started using a WaterPic, and new drill type toothbrush. I am not doing anything that is going to increase my personal safety. I don't care if my hair looks dumb. It is a lot better than being dumb!

Your hair probably looks fine. I've cut my own hair for years. Pretty much stick to 3 basic styles. And I color it, too. This week I need to take off a couple more inches and color.
 
  • #436
1. Heart disease: 269,583 deaths
2. Cancer: 252,500 deaths (based on 2019 data)
3. COVID-19 pandemic: 88,217 to 293,381 projected deaths
4. Stroke: 60,833 deaths
5. Alzheimer's disease: 50,417 deaths
6. Drug overdoses: 29,265 deaths
7. Suicide: 19,583 deaths

Note: These figures do not represent annual death counts. COVID-19 models project deaths will fall over the next few weeks, with few occurring past July. To compare death tolls on an equal timeline, STAT calculated death counts for a five-month period for all leading causes of death. All figures are based on 2017 data unless otherwise noted.

COVID-19 is 3rd leading cause of death, STAT analysis suggests: Updated death projections suggest COVID-19 is the third leading cause of death in the U.S., behind cancer and heart disease, according to an analysis from STAT.
 
  • #437
I am surprised the obvious isn't pointed out. Japan has a very high compliance when it comes to mask wearing. If you look at the photos coming from Japan, everybody is wearing masks.
i was surprised about that as well!
 
  • #438
So she managed to keep impeccable record, but didn't figure out she shouldn't be working with symptoms? How are we going to stop the epidemic when people who have symptoms continue to go out in public and work?
You can't fix stupid, sadly.
 
  • #439
The US comprises 4% of the world population but accounts for nearly 30% of covid deaths, according to current data.

Does anyone have ideas about why that is?

I don't have any study at hand but I have read that your health care system makes it difficult for people without insurance to get check ups because they simply can't afford it. Most end up going to the doctor well after preventative care should have been administered. We don't have that problem in Canada. You can go to the doctor regardless of whether you make 10K or 100K a year. Nobody goes bankrupt or has to sell their home to pay for hospital bills here in Canada or in any other country that has universal health care.

This is what's wrong with American health care
 
  • #440
Every time I hear the argument about people who would probably die anyway, or should just take their chances with the virus reminds me of Shirley Jackson's short story, The Lottery.
 
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