Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #59

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Stuffed toys are benefiting from Covid 19: look at the smiles on their faces.

A California roller coaster is closed to visitors, so stuffed animals are riding it every day instead

A California roller coaster is closed to visitors, so stuffed animals are riding it every day instead

Zoë Ettinger
2 hrs ago
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Stuffed animals on the Giant Dipper.
  • Belmont Park in San Diego, California, closed its rides in mid-March, but one hasn't stopped.
  • The old Giant Dipper roller coaster has to keep running to stop its machinery from tightening up.
 
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Coronavirus update: Governor Andrew Cuomo pleads for New York protesters to get tested for COVID-19 to avoid another outbreak

Coronavirus update: Governor Andrew Cuomo pleads for New York protesters to get tested for COVID-19 to avoid another outbreak

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Governor of New York Andrew Cuomo has concerns mass protests over the death of George Floyd could lead to new outbreaks of COVID-19 in the city.

Andrew Cuomo issues plea to New Yorkers
New York Governor Andrew Cuomo says the thousands of New Yorkers who have joined protests over the death of George Floyd have a "civic duty" to be tested for coronavirus and help New York avoid a spike in new cases as it slowly restarts its economy.

There's widespread concern that people packing in tightly for demonstrations, sometimes without face coverings could lead to more COVID-19 cases.
 
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Like everything else fun this Summer.

What a crappy year. We started out with COVID and now the country is upside down with protests and racial issues. We are a mess.
 
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I've been following the stats here since Ohio started reopening. Daily comparing new cases, deaths, hospitalizations and ICU admissions to the 21 day average. Except for a couple times the 24 hour reports have stayed below the 21 day average. I'm somewhat hopeful but most of the protests here were in our state's hotspots. I guess another week before we'll learn how they affect it.

We're all watching. We simply do not know the rate of transmission in the under 25 group. Estimates based on data from China, Italy, Spain and France vary and techniques of reopening schools also vary a great deal.

If the recent studies about a shorter period of transmission (for the asymptomatic) are solid, then reopening the schools may not result in big upticks.

We're already a week or more past Memorial Day, nation-wide (in the US, obviously) and while the overall numbers aren't as good as the week before Memorial Day, they're also not too bad. IMHE projections appear to be holding true - they predicted ~850 deaths for yesterday in the US and we had 854.

Of course, that doesn't include whatever will transpire after the protests. But so far, Memorial Day hasn't caused a big uptick in the nation has a whole. In fact, some places that were predicted to have more cases and deaths (like Arizona) have not done so, yet.

Las Vegas has its first full day of people out en masse on the Strip, I haven't seen pics from inside casinos yet, but we will learn quite a bit about outdoor transmission from Vegas because it is packed, people are jammed together and hardly anyone has a mask. There are quite a few older people in the crowds, but I'd say it's 90% under 35-40.
 
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What a crappy year. We started out with COVID and now the country is upside down with protests and racial issues. We are a mess.

Perhaps it will be cathartic? I try to be optimistic. It is a mess. Sometimes I think it's best if people really do show their true colors (like the councilman of a city near me: Santa Clarita, who calls himself "a proud racist"). Good to know.

It's been good to see some police joining in spirit with the protestors and treating the looting as a separate issue.

I hope things are calm in New Jersey - Los Angeles has settled down to the point where LAPD says it's not spending any more resources on standing around the perimeter of peaceful protests.

We await the data on what these massive crowds will cause, in terms of CoVid. I'm staying in for another couple of weeks, hoping it won't get really bad again.
 
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Interesting article discussing people with long-term symptoms after having COVID19. They may have "recovered" but are still unwell, struggling with fatigue and other symptoms. MOO

COVID-19 Can Last for Several Months

Thousands Who Got COVID-19 in March Are Still Sick

The disease’s “long-haulers” have endured months of debilitating symptoms—and disbelief from doctors and friends.
Thank you for this. I need to see things like this for my own sanity. I know I'm still "not quite right". March 20th was the day I fell ill.

I get fatigue, even tho I'm working from home with no commute and no office to sap my energy. I get brain fog, I am quite articulate generally but I'm often searching my brain for a word I'm looking for. I bump into door frames, as if my perception is out. And bizarrely, I can constantly smell and "taste" fresh paint! Dont ask me why, I cant explain that. My sense of smell has not fully returned - today I could not smell fresh bacon. My nose is still sore and dry inside. I am a lot, lot better than I was but I feel I would struggle if I had to go back to the office full time (luckily I dont have to). It's sometimes a little depressing to be honest but in Dr Campbell's vids he said the cells can take three months to recover. So I'm hoping I'm nearly done with it. Or its nearly done with me :(
 
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Perhaps it will be cathartic? I try to be optimistic. It is a mess. Sometimes I think it's best if people really do show their true colors (like the councilman of a city near me: Santa Clarita, who calls himself "a proud racist"). Good to know.

It's been good to see some police joining in spirit with the protestors and treating the looting as a separate issue.

I hope things are calm in New Jersey - Los Angeles has settled down to the point where LAPD says it's not spending any more resources on standing around the perimeter of peaceful protests.

We await the data on what these massive crowds will cause, in terms of CoVid. I'm staying in for another couple of weeks, hoping it won't get really bad again.

I have been inside since March 18. I got an email with an anticipated return to work on a flex schedule starting June 15, when NJ moves to Stage 2. Hoping our figures continue to go down.
 
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Asymptomatic coronavirus cases account for 15pc of COVID-19 infections: study

Asymptomatic coronavirus cases account for 15pc of COVID-19 infections: study


Sophie Scott and Specialist Reporting Team's Celina Edmonds
1 hour ago
COVID-19 symptoms never develop for some
Researchers now believe about 15 per cent of people who contract COVID-19 will never show any symptoms, like the Kables.

Bond University medical professor Paul Glasziou, along with colleagues from the universities of Sydney and NSW, compared data from nine international studies to determine what proportion of people with COVID-19 were likely to be asymptomatic.

"The concern has been that there may be some people without symptoms but [who] are infectious and are spreading it without knowing it," Professor Glasziou said.

Some studies had previously suggested almost half of people with COVID-19 didn't show symptoms, but the review by the Australian team found the rate was much lower.
"About one in six or one in seven will not have any symptoms for the whole of the illness," Professor Glasziou said.
Fortunately, the scientists also found people who did not have symptoms were about a third less likely to spread the disease.

"The reason for that is you're not sick as long, and also you're not doing things like coughing or sneezing," he said.
High risk of 'presymptomatic' spread
People without symptoms may also be in the 'presymptomatic' stage of COVID-19, before symptoms develop.

"The highest amount of infectiousness that you have is in the two days before you develop symptoms," Professor MacIntyre said.

Responses to this article from other scientists are skeptical (in part because it relies on people remembering into the past, whether they had any symptoms at all). Since allergies, common cold and flu all cause similar mild-ish symptoms, if people are asked "Did you ever have a cough?" they will be classed as symptomatic. And it well could be CoVid causing the symptoms - but we don't know from self-report.

I think everyone does agree that infectiousness is highest before symptoms - but not before all symptoms (before fever and other easy-to-recognize symptoms). Loss of sense of smell turns out to be relatively rare. Since "headache" is one of the symptoms, now that people are being specifically asked (once they've tested for antibodies) if they had headache, many people are going to say yes (not knowing exactly the time frame of their infection).

I have had a cough since December, with an occasional sore throat. I do not have CoVid. But if I were to test positive next winter for antibodies, and someone asked if I'd had a cough this spring, I'd say yes. But I do not have CoVid right now. Almost everyone I know has had a runny nose this allergy season.

Hopefully the people who try to use meta-studies done by others to announce such important results will at least add caveats to their meta-analysis. Other scientists have done similar studies (some of them are actual doctors reporting data in real time from their own hospital-based infectious disease practices) and found very different results.
 
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I have been inside since March 18. I got an email with an anticipated return to work on a flex schedule starting June 15, when NJ moves to Stage 2. Hoping our figures continue to go down.

I've been so busy this week I keep forgetting to look at overall numbers. I hope they do, too. Jmo
 
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Responses to this article from other scientists are skeptical (in part because it relies on people remembering into the past, whether they had any symptoms at all). Since allergies, common cold and flu all cause similar mild-ish symptoms, if people are asked "Did you ever have a cough?" they will be classed as symptomatic. And it well could be CoVid causing the symptoms - but we don't know from self-report.

I think everyone does agree that infectiousness is highest before symptoms - but not before all symptoms (before fever and other easy-to-recognize symptoms). Loss of sense of smell turns out to be relatively rare. Since "headache" is one of the symptoms, now that people are being specifically asked (once they've tested for antibodies) if they had headache, many people are going to say yes (not knowing exactly the time frame of their infection).

I have had a cough since December, with an occasional sore throat. I do not have CoVid. But if I were to test positive next winter for antibodies, and someone asked if I'd had a cough this spring, I'd say yes. But I do not have CoVid right now. Almost everyone I know has had a runny nose this allergy season.

Hopefully the people who try to use meta-studies done by others to announce such important results will at least add caveats to their meta-analysis. Other scientists have done similar studies (some of them are actual doctors reporting data in real time from their own hospital-based infectious disease practices) and found very different results.
The headache really floored me. I dont get migraine, but am a "headachy" person generally. This headache was immense. I couldnt get out of bed and it was pounding in my temples, tightening around my head for a whole day and night. I was annoyed for a while after that headache wasnt acknowledged as a key symptom. I darn well knew it was!
 
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so I had an app't at the hospital today for cancer treatment
last time I was there the nurse told me my surgical mask was only good for 20 minutes so might as well take it off
and a doctor told me wearing it wasn't necessary anyway
this time the same nurse was wearing the same kind of mask lol and neither of us took it off
this time they had people at the entrance screening people and someone else offering masks
I think every person I saw had masks/some people had shields too
this time people were taking it seriously (like us WS'ers knew to ages ago)
 
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so I had an app't at the hospital today for cancer treatment
last time I was there the nurse told me my surgical mask was only good for 20 minutes so might as well take it off
and a doctor told me wearing it wasn't necessary anyway
this time the same nurse was wearing the same kind of mask lol and neither of us took it off
this time they had people at the entrance screening people and someone else offering masks
I think every person I saw had masks/some people had shields too
this time people were taking it seriously (like us WS'ers knew to ages ago)
Sorry to hear you are having treatment. What a tough year for you
 
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Sorry to hear you are having treatment. What a tough year for you

oh it's been several years of medical problems for me but I'm through the worst of it for cancer thank you!
I have a sleep clinic this month too and I wonder if it will be cancelled because of covid
 
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I have been inside since March 18. I got an email with an anticipated return to work on a flex schedule starting June 15, when NJ moves to Stage 2. Hoping our figures continue to go down.
If you dont mind me asking, are you shielded? Only that here, we're allowing colleagues to remain on furlough if they are shielding and prefer not to return. That's a decision made at company level though, but supported by the government regs. Might be worth asking if a similar option is available?
 
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Dropping in to post this lovely news:

Bald men at higher risk of severe case of Covid-19, research finds
Bald men may be at higher risk of suffering from severe Covid-19 symptoms, emerging evidence suggests.

The link is so strong that some researchers are suggesting baldness should be considered a risk factor called the "Gabrin sign", after the first US physician to die of Covid-19 in the United States, Dr Frank Gabrin, who was bald.

The lead author of the key study behind the association, Professor Carlos Wambier of Brown University, told The Telegraph: "We really think that baldness is a perfect predictor of severity."

Data since the beginning of the outbreak in Wuhan, China, in January has shown that men are more likely to die after getting coronavirus. In the UK, a report this week from Public Health England found that working-age males were twice as likely as females to die after being diagnosed with Covid-19.

Until recently, scientists have been at a loss at why this might be, pointing to factors such as lifestyle, smoking, and immune system differences between the sexes. But increasingly they believe it could be because androgens - male sex hormones like testosterone - may play a part not only in hair loss, but also in boosting the ability of coronavirus to attack cells.
Bald men at higher risk of severe case of Covid-19, research finds
 
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U.K. Has More Coronavirus Deaths in One Day Than All EU Countries Combined

U.K. Has More Coronavirus Deaths in One Day Than All EU Countries Combined

Meghan Roos
14 hrs ago
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The United Kingdom on Wednesday reported that 359 additional people have died after contracting COVID-19. The daily number is higher than the combined total of COVID-19 deaths that the 27 countries in the European Union reported to the World Health Organization (WHO) for its June 3 situation report on the pandemic.
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Of the more than 382,000 people who have died of COVID-19 around the world, 39,728 have been U.K. residents, the Department of Health and Social Care reported Wednesday. The U.K. is second behind the U.S. on the list of countries that have reported the greatest number of COVID-19 deaths since the pandemic began.
In the EU, Italy, France, Spain, Belgium and Germany also rank among the top 10 countries in terms of COVID-19 deaths, according to a Johns Hopkins University tracker. Of the EU countries that sent updated case numbers to the WHO for its June 3 report, France had the highest number of new deaths, with 107 reported by Wednesday morning.
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Most European countries still have tight restrictions in place to prevent travelers from bringing the virus into their communities, but Italy on Wednesday took a step none of the others have by becoming the first to reopen its borders to international travel.
 
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