Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #72

[mickey2942]

Florida couple jailed for breaking COVID-19 quarantine

So, how did the neighbors know that these folks tested positive for Covid-19?

 

[SouthAussie]

Just a tip for those who use their car's airconditioning on the recirculated air setting .... (or any other system on that setting).

"A well-maintained and operated heating, ventilation and air conditioning system can reduce the spread of COVID-19 in indoor spaces by increasing outdoor air change. Avoid recirculated air."


World Health Organization (WHO)

 

[BlueShoe]

This is not addressed to anyone in particular. Sometimes I hear comments like "we just need to live our lives." I wonder what is meant. Does this mean we stop masking, testing, and social distancing? Usually it seems to mean going on with pre-Covid schedules, schools, work, and so on and not worrying if cases (and deaths) are increasing, because many people are not at risk.

My concern about this kind of thinking is that cases will then go up. What will happen when our hospitals max out? Will we just say to people, we don't care? We can't treat you any more because we don't have room, staff, whatever. What about the many that need added care once they are recovering? Will we say "tough luck" but we have no physical therapy for you, because too many people need it? What is meant by just going on with one's life in a pandemic? I don't think it is possible. These are all my opinions, but I think we need to do something more, and time is of the essence. We don't have the option of just living with this illness. Not if we value any kind of quality of life for ourselves or for others. MOO

 

[TootsieFootsie]

I think some of those people don't like to do anything that they think might benefit anyone else.
I also think they think it makes them feel weak, like a loser. Like someone else is taking advantage of them in some way.
For someone to win, ie the mask wearing, in their mind makes them feel they've had something stolen from them and made to feel lesser than they think they should be.

This is not addressed to anyone in particular. Sometimes I hear comments like "we just need to live our lives." I wonder what is meant. Does this mean we stop masking, testing, and social distancing? Usually it seems to mean going on with pre-Covid schedules, schools, work, and so on and not worrying if cases (and deaths) are increasing, because many people are not at risk.

 

[Tillicum]

This is not addressed to anyone in particular. Sometimes I hear comments like "we just need to live our lives." I wonder what is meant. Does this mean we stop masking, testing, and social distancing? Usually it seems to mean going on with pre-Covid schedules, schools, work, and so on and not worrying if cases (and deaths) are increasing, because many people are not at risk.

My concern about this kind of thinking is that cases will then go up. What will happen when our hospitals max out? Will we just say to people, we don't care? We can't treat you any more because we don't have room, staff, whatever. What about the many that need added care once they are recovering? Will we say "tough luck" but we have no physical therapy for you, because too many people need it? What is meant by just going on with one's life in a pandemic? I don't think it is possible. These are all my opinions, but I think we need to do something more, and time is of the essence. We don't have the option of just living with this illness. Not if we value any kind of quality of life for ourselves or for others. MOO

For my family and I it means we will live our lives while social distancing, wearing masks and not congregating in large groups. We follow all the guidelines and take every precaution we're supposed to. We are living our lives and not constantly living in fear. For most of us I think we can make adjustments but still live a somewhat normal life. Maybe we're in the minority but I hope not.

 

[Wyle_E_Coyote]

Dr. Osterholm: Americans will be living with the coronavirus for decades

Johns Hopkins Experts Address COVID-19 Vaccine Challenges, Realistic Timelines

 

[SoCalDavidS]

Per Worldometers - 7/30/20 (4,170)

New Cases = 68,437

Deaths = 1,464

Today's Death Totals - Texas(322)* - Florida(252)* - Arizona(172)* - California(113)

*Record Total

 

[MimosaMornings]

For my family and I it means we will live our lives while social distancing, wearing masks and not congregating in large groups. We follow all the guidelines and take every precaution we're supposed to. We are living our lives and not constantly living in fear. For most of us I think we can make adjustments but still live a somewhat normal life. Maybe we're in the minority but I hope not.

Can’t hug your parents? Who are in declining health and isolated?
Maybe do the elbow touch with a sibling?
Grandchildren can’t visit or touch other family members? A plane ride away
Lost your job?

I’m not living in fear but there’s no way it is close to normal.
I’m probably in the minority.

 

[Tony1902]

Do you have a link about the Vitamin D supplementation? I take 5000iu daily of D3. But would like to read up on it. TIA

Hi I have old woman bones so I take the same amount. Haven’t broken anything yet, but I’m not too active in garden in coastal Louisiana now..too hot too humid

 

[Kavya01]

For my family and I it means we will live our lives while social distancing, wearing masks and not congregating in large groups. We follow all the guidelines and take every precaution we're supposed to. We are living our lives and not constantly living in fear. For most of us I think we can make adjustments but still live a somewhat normal life. Maybe we're in the minority but I hope not.

We do much the same. The 4 of us mostly keep to ourselves, social distance and mask and visit outside when we go visit my husbands at-risk parents to bring them their groceries.
Otherwise we keep mostly completely to ourselves, and keep ourselves busy around the house and yard and veg garden, we got the kids an intex pool, we read and play games and watch things and are having a good summer. While following all rules and guidelines we are living life, thankful not to be sick or have lost someone to this in our immediate circle. Yet , crossing fingers.
Next year we'll be vaccinated and things will become a lot different again we figure, and until then we patiently live life together the 4 of us. Because what's a year, on a human healthy life-span, really.

My parents who lived through WW II in Europe for 5 long years, and had their houses bombed, were abused by the nazi regime, endured freezing winters with no heat, who had to eat tulip bulbs and diluted cabbage soup and nearly starved-- Who walked for two weeks in winter snow and ice in sad remnants of the clothing they had left from before the war, from their city to the farmlands with their parents, to try and get shelter with a kind farmer so they might have some food...
THAT was lacking, hardship, misery, hopelessness with no knowing if there would ever be an end in sight.
I tell my kids we have a house, food deliveries, heat and cooling, light, entertainment, internet!
In all that luxury we can afford to put life on hold a while, one year, to keep ourselves and others safe. And re-emerge with new appreciation for the world when we get to join it again, I imagine.

Very worth it so we can hopefully emerge from this period with our organs still healthy and our family still intact.

MOO.

 

[Tillicum]

Can’t hug your parents? Who are in declining health and isolated?
Maybe do the elbow touch with a sibling?
Grandchildren can’t visit or touch other family members?
Lost your job?

I’m not living in fear but there’s no way it is close to normal.
I’m probably in the minority.

My parents are dead but my MIL and FIL are mid to late 80s. They both have 3 dr visits weekly. We visit outdoors, 6 feet or more apart. A hug would be great but just talking and seeing each other helps us to get through this. My sister and I picked blackberries for almost 2 hours yesterday, always staying at least 6 feet apart. We teased and laughed and joked but we didn't have to touch in order to share our love. We see our kids and grandkids regularly. My grandkids taught me how to air hug! We visit outdoors staying at least 6 feet apart.

No one in my family has lost their job. It absolutely would be impossible to live life as usual. I'm concerned for all those who are unemployed.

Please don't give up hope.

 

[Clair Louise]

For my family and I it means we will live our lives while social distancing, wearing masks and not congregating in large groups. We follow all the guidelines and take every precaution we're supposed to. We are living our lives and not constantly living in fear. For most of us I think we can make adjustments but still live a somewhat normal life. Maybe we're in the minority but I hope not.

I don't know anyone who is living in fear. Taking sensible precautions is not living in fear IMO.

 

[Tillicum]

I don't know anyone who is living in fear. Taking sensible precautions is not living in fear IMO.

Exactly.

 

[WichitaFalls]

We do much the same. The 4 of us mostly keep to ourselves, social distance and mask and visit outside when we go visit my husbands at-risk parents to bring them their groceries.
Otherwise we keep mostly completely to ourselves, and keep ourselves busy around the house and yard and veg garden, we got the kids an intex pool, we read and play games and watch things and are having a good summer. While following all rules and guidelines we are living life, thankful not to be sick or have lost someone to this in our immediate circle. Yet , crossing fingers.
Next year we'll be vaccinated and things will become a lot different again we figure, and until then we patiently live life together the 4 of us. Because what's a year, on a human healthy life-span, really.
I love your post! When I hear so many going on and on a
My parents who lived through WW II in Europe for 5 long years, and had their houses bombed, were abused by the nazi regime, endured freezing winters with no heat, who had to eat tulip bulbs and diluted cabbage soup and nearly starved-- Who walked for two weeks in winter snow and ice in sad remnants of the clothing they had left from before the war, from their city to the farmlands with their parents, to try and get shelter with a kind farmer so they might have some food...
THAT was lacking, hardship, misery, hopelessness with no knowing if there would ever be an end in sight.
I tell my kids we have a house, food deliveries, heat and cooling, light, entertainment, internet!
In all that luxury we can afford to put life on hold a while, one year, to keep ourselves and others safe. And re-emerge with new appreciation for the world when we get to join it again, I imagine.

Very worth it so we can hopefully emerge from this period with our organs still healthy and our family still intact.

MOO.

We do much the same. The 4 of us mostly keep to ourselves, social distance and mask and visit outside when we go visit my husbands at-risk parents to bring them their groceries.
Otherwise we keep mostly completely to ourselves, and keep ourselves busy around the house and yard and veg garden, we got the kids an intex pool, we read and play games and watch things and are having a good summer. While following all rules and guidelines we are living life, thankful not to be sick or have lost someone to this in our immediate circle. Yet , crossing fingers.
Next year we'll be vaccinated and things will become a lot different again we figure, and until then we patiently live life together the 4 of us. Because what's a year, on a human healthy life-span, really.

My parents who lived through WW II in Europe for 5 long years, and had their houses bombed, were abused by the nazi regime, endured freezing winters with no heat, who had to eat tulip bulbs and diluted cabbage soup and nearly starved-- Who walked for two weeks in winter snow and ice in sad remnants of the clothing they had left from before the war, from their city to the farmlands with their parents, to try and get shelter with a kind farmer so they might have some food...
THAT was lacking, hardship, misery, hopelessness with no knowing if there would ever be an end in sight.
I tell my kids we have a house, food deliveries, heat and cooling, light, entertainment, internet!
In all that luxury we can afford to put life on hold a while, one year, to keep ourselves and others safe. And re-emerge with new appreciation for the world when we get to join it again, I imagine.

Very worth it so we can hopefully emerge from this period with our organs still healthy and our family still intact.

MOO.

I love your post!!! I wish more had the same attitude.

 

[weepingangel]

They probably put it on Their FacebookS

Florida couple jailed for breaking COVID-19 quarantine

So, how did the neighbors know that these folks tested positive for Covid-19?

 

[beatrixpotter]

Dr. Osterholm: Americans will be living with the coronavirus for decades

Johns Hopkins Experts Address COVID-19 Vaccine Challenges, Realistic Timelines

That is hands down the most depressing article I've read in a long time. That is just...our entire modern civilization circling the drain..A never ending forest fire of disease, terribly overwhelmed healthcare, destroyed global economy, shortage of goods and services and long term illness and loads of death. He's basically saying the worst case scenario is the most likely one. There is no magic vaccine solution. There will be no breaks in the spread of this unless we lock down. It's a forest fire and the medical treatment we don't even yet have will only very slowly start improving things. I sure hope they start working on some miraculous antivirals or something. I'll be living in a hole in the ground for the next decade I guess...

 

[SouthAussie]

Florida couple jailed for breaking COVID-19 quarantine

So, how did the neighbors know that these folks tested positive for Covid-19?

Probably from (at least) one of the other 3 tenants in the 3 bedroom home they shared, I think. Maybe they were not wearing masks in the house either, as they were instructed to do? Because their relationship with another tenant there had reportedly 'soured'.


They were advised to wear face masks at home, a three bedroom house the couple shares with at least three other tenants. And they were required to self-isolate for at least 14 days.
Freire Interian and Gonzalez, who were released Thursday after posting bail, expressed disbelief over the misdemeanor charges. They speculated that the arrests were the result of a soured relationship with another tenant.
Florida pair arrested for breaking COVID-19 quarantine order

 

[Tadpole12]

Johns Hopkins Experts Address COVID-19 Vaccine Challenges, Realistic Timelines

"A reasonable timeline for wide distribution of vaccines is likely the end of 2021, according to Dr Bar-Zeev."

"We still need to get it delivered and that's going to be a big challenge." - Dr B-Z

 

[SouthAussie]

That is hands down the most depressing article I've read in a long time. That is just...our entire modern civilization circling the drain..A never ending forest fire of disease, terribly overwhelmed healthcare, destroyed global economy, shortage of goods and services and long term illness and loads of death. He's basically saying the worst case scenario is the most likely one. There is no magic vaccine solution. There will be no breaks in the spread of this unless we lock down. It's a forest fire and the medical treatment we don't even yet have will only very slowly start improving things. I sure hope they start working on some miraculous antivirals or something. I'll be living in a hole in the ground for the next decade I guess...

BBM: And that is the key. imo

There has never been a serious lockdown in the US. 6 weeks of sacrifice for the good of all. Get the R0 less than 1 everywhere. Containment, and suppression of the virus in all areas before opening back up again.

 

[mickey2942]

BBM: And that is the key. imo

There has never been a serious lockdown in the US. 6 weeks of sacrifice for the good of all. Get the R0 less than 1 everywhere. Containment, and suppression of the virus in all areas before opening back up again.

Agreed. There was a half hearted attempt. But most things were open. It was nothing like Spain, Canada, Italy or Australia.

Now, people just do whatever they want, there isn't even a pretense of pretending to care about the virus in most places.

Montana is a good example, you don't have to wear a mask in counties that have less than four cases of Covid. So, I was over in another county, and there were some guys bickering about whether or not they had to wear a mask! Geez, just over the county line on three sides is 200 cases, 75 and 90. But they want to quibble about wearing a mask in their county?