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Surviving a COVID-19 ICU stay is just the start.
After the ICU, coronavirus patients need rehab facilities and staff to get them back to normal functioning, if they even can — the U.S. is short on both.

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna1235239


Helping these patients return to normal requires early and dedicated access to a range of support services, such as physical and occupational therapy. Ideally, this road to recovery would begin in the hospital. However, COVID-19 patients in the ICU may still be contagious, and because many hospitals lack sufficient personal protective equipment to keep physical therapists safe from infection, they are often unable to treat anyone.
 
  • #822
I used to do a lot of IV therapy, chemo, etc. Insert needle into vein, leave the catheter in the vein while withdrawing the needle then secure in place. The new IV needle contraption never made sense to me. It was to avoid accidentally being stuck with the needle, I think. Which also doesn’t make sense to me, because we always avoided being stuck with the needle anyway. It was after my time, maybe someone else can explain it.

ETA: No, never reused needles.
Sure.
 
  • #823
During our lockdowns we have always been encouraged to do outside exercise,

this might change soon, victoria is in big big trouble right now
 
  • #824
COVID-19: Inslee order will shield private data obtained during contact tracing calls

“Inslee believes people may be reluctant to participate in contact tracing calls out of a fear their private information will be compromised.

“So, in that process we want to give added assurance to people that any identifiable individual information will be kept private," he said during a news conference. "So that if you are contacted by a contact tracer, you can be guaranteed the information is going to be kept private.”

Inslee said he would be signing a proclamation later in the day that would specifically exempt the identifiable information collected by those conducting the contact tracing calls from being disclosed under the state's public records act.”

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This is good imo if it gives people more reassurance. This is, however, already disclosed to them on the phone by the tracer, that their information will be kept private. I understand their concern about data protection.
 
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This is a good official move to make. People are quite rightly concerned about privacy issues, but hopefully this will reassure them that their rights will still be protected under law.
 
  • #826
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  • #828
this might change soon, victoria is in big big trouble right now

Sure is, with our numbers.

‘Now or never’ to lock down: AMA warns Vic threatens rest of Australia

‘Now or never’ to lock down: AMA warns Vic threatens rest of Australia

Sky News Australia

1 hour ago
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The Australian Medical Association is warning Victoria it’s “now or never” to impose a harsh level four lockdown to stop COVID-19 spiralling out of control.

The AMA’s Dr Chris Moy told Sky News Victoria’s inaction is putting at risk the rest of the nation under threat after the state announced its second-worst day on Friday with 627 cases and eight deaths.

“There’s been this finicking around, frankly, trying to sort of slowly add little bits and pieces when what we really need is a complete shutdown of this,” Dr Moy said.

“The thing that’s actually happened that’s of real concern is we’re building up this large number of people that are not being contact traced in time, and they are going around and they’re spreading to other people, so at the moment this is actually slowly building up.
“We are talking about that balloon just slowly increasing in size and somewhere along the way the balloon bursts.

“It’s now or never, it’s time, no more finicking around, we’ve got to go to level four.”

Dr Moy criticised Victoria’s current response to its second wave – describing it as barely a lockdown.

“This is a very light lockdown, and, probably most critically, people are still going to work which the premier admits is actually still a significant source of transfer of the virus,” Dr Moy said.

“In level four lockdown, most critically, is that the only people that go to work are those for essential services, and we have been calling for this for two weeks, and we are imploring the government to do this.

“Otherwise you reach a critical point.”
 
  • #829
What an inspirational post!

I tell my kids we have a house, food deliveries, heat and cooling, light, entertainment, internet!
In all that luxury we can afford to put life on hold a while, one year, to keep ourselves and others safe. And re-emerge with new appreciation for the world when we get to join it again, I imagine.
 
  • #830
I just couldn't read this article, too depressing and defeatist sounding.

Dr. Osterholm: Americans will be living with the coronavirus for decades
 
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Ugh.

“Osterholm’s viewpoint is sobering. The 67-year-old expects the novel coronavirus to be present for the rest of his life. He doesn’t believe the wave theory (a first wave, a lull, followed by other waves) will apply to this pandemic. “That’s not what’s happening here,” he told MarketWatch in an interview.

MarketWatch: One of the things I’m pretty interested in is the talk and the hope around a vaccine. Do you think we have misconceptions about what it means when we have a vaccine?

Michael Osterholm: Everyone is looking at the vaccine as being a light switch: on or off. And I look at it as a rheostat, that’s going to take a long time, from turning it on from its darkest position to a lightest position. If you’re anticipating a light switch, you’re going to be concerned, confused, and in some cases very disappointed in what it might look like in those first days to months with a vaccine.

MarketWatch: I saw a piece in The Atlantic this week and I thought they positioned it well. They described it as the beginning of the end.

Osterholm: It won’t be. We will be dealing with this virus forever. Effective and safe vaccines and hopefully ones with some durability will be very important, even critical tools, in fighting it. But the whole world is going to be experiencing COVID-19 ‘til the end of time. We’re not going to be vaccinating our way out of this to eight-plus billion people in the world right now. And if we don’t get durable immunity, we’re potentially looking at revaccination on a routine basis, if we can do that. We’ve really got to come to grips with actually living with this virus, for at least my lifetime, and at the same time, it doesn’t mean we can’t do a lot about it.”

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Here’s the other article mentioned:

A Vaccine Reality Check
 
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this might change soon, victoria is in big big trouble right now

Really, really sorry to hear that Ping. I did hear this morning that it could be Level 4 lockdown and/or lockdown till the end of the year for Victoria. :(

As an example, NZ Level 4 lockdown was:
- People instructed to stay home
- Educational facilities closed
- Businesses closed except for essential services (supermarkets, pharmacies, clinics) and lifeline utilities
- Rationing of supplies and requisitioning of facilities
- Travel severely limited
- Major reprioritisation of healthcare services
https://twitter.com/NZcivildefence/status/1241143651859705856/photo/1

They are saying that contact tracing can't keep up with the numbers, and the PM and Premier Andrews are having numbers crunched to make a decision in the next couple of days, what is being done now isn't working.
 
  • #833
That is hands down the most depressing article I've read in a long time. That is just...our entire modern civilization circling the drain..A never ending forest fire of disease, terribly overwhelmed healthcare, destroyed global economy, shortage of goods and services and long term illness and loads of death. He's basically saying the worst case scenario is the most likely one. There is no magic vaccine solution. There will be no breaks in the spread of this unless we lock down. It's a forest fire and the medical treatment we don't even yet have will only very slowly start improving things. I sure hope they start working on some miraculous antivirals or something. I'll be living in a hole in the ground for the next decade I guess...

Terrible. Beyond terrible. Almost wish I didn’t read it.

Sad thing is, it makes perfect sense to me, this whole “wave” thing he describes, or lack thereof. And challenges associated with mass vaccinations, etc.

We have known the challenge of vaccines and how long it takes, etc. I was hopeful though.

Man.

Speechless.

If this is the case, would I rather know the truth? Yes because we’ve come this far. But man, not what we wanted to hear obviously. But maybe we do need to know the truth though, that this option exists. I’ve quoted before from others that there is no guarantee on a vaccine.

Eta: yeah I can’t even process this.

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Eta2: I can’t believe this is happening.

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Eta3: Yeah I’m not sure I should’ve read that.

Gah/

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Re: this second article:

““For some, they may be anxious on whether a COVID-19 vaccine is safe and effective. Others may be mistrustful.””

(Raises hand.)
 
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Coronavirus: Brazilian president Bolsonaro has 'mould' in his lungs after COVID infection

Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro says he is taking antibiotics for an infection that left him feeling weak - having spent weeks in isolation after catching coronavirus.

He appeared during a live broadcast and chuckled as he told viewers that he had "mould" in his lungs.

The leader said: "I just did a blood test. I was feeling kind of weak yesterday. They found a bit of infection also.

"Now I'm on antibiotics."

Mr Bolsonaro added: "After 20 days indoors, I have other problems. I have mould in my lungs."

He spent nearly three weeks in isolation at the presidential palace after being diagnosed with the coronavirus on 7 July.

He tested negative for the virus last Saturday but his wife Michelle, 38, tested positive on Thursday.
 
  • #835
Really, really sorry to hear that Ping. I did hear this morning that it could be Level 4 lockdown and/or lockdown till the end of the year for Victoria. :(

As an example, NZ Level 4 lockdown was:
- People instructed to stay home
- Educational facilities closed
- Businesses closed except for essential services (supermarkets, pharmacies, clinics) and lifeline utilities
- Rationing of supplies and requisitioning of facilities
- Travel severely limited
- Major reprioritisation of healthcare services
https://twitter.com/NZcivildefence/status/1241143651859705856/photo/1

They are saying that contact tracing can't keep up with the numbers, and the PM and Premier Andrews are having numbers crunched to make a decision in the next couple of days, what is being done now isn't working.

Just to piggy back on top of the above, in NZ we also had the following coordinated with the lockdown:

  • increased volume of free coronavirus testing, including drive by stations, but I got mine in my GP's carpark by one of the nursing staff. 24 hour turn over
  • ramped up contract tracing (it started out a bit wonky but they got it sorted)
  • income subsidies for all those impacted by the lockdown
  • small business loans (no interest) from the govt
  • moratorium on rent increases
  • bank mortgage holidays for homeowners
 
  • #836
Coronavirus Australia live news: Victoria announces 627 new COVID-19 cases and eight deaths

Coronavirus Australia live news: Victoria announces 627 new COVID-19 cases and eight deaths

Simon Smale

10 hrs ago


There will be difficult weeks to come

Deputy Chief Medical Officer Michael Kidd said the number of new cases we saw in Victoria today were concerning. Here's what he had to say:

"This has been a very difficult week.

"There will be more difficult weeks to come as we continue to live with COVID-19.

"My advice to you is that things will get better but it won't happen overnight.

"Australia is not like many other countries where COVID-19 is out of control. We are working together. We are taking strong measures to tackle each and every outbreak of COVID-19.

"The Australian and Victorian governments are working together as one team."


Doctor in his 30s in ICU after contracting coronavirus at work


A young Melbourne doctor is one of at least three Victorian healthcare workers who have been in intensive care after catching coronavirus at work, the ABC understands.

The emergency doctor, who is in his 30s, worked for Northern Health and is currently in ICU.

The ABC also understands a GP in his 30s was intubated at the Royal Melbourne Hospital after catching the virus at a COVID-19 screening clinic, while a 53-year-old personal care worker from St Basils aged care centre in Fawkner was in ICU at the Austin Hospital.

The current status of those two workers has not been confirmed.

A total of 1,030 Victorian healthcare workers have contracted coronavirus since the pandemic began, including 614 active cases.
 
  • #837
They are saying that contact tracing can't keep up with the numbers, and the PM and Premier Andrews are having numbers crunched to make a decision in the next couple of days, what is being done now isn't working.

yep basically, we'll either find out tomorrow or sunday what our fate will be
 
  • #838
Russia claims it is set to approve world-first COVID-19 vaccine within weeks, despite safety fears

Russia intends to be the first in the world to approve a coronavirus vaccine, in less than two weeks -- despite concerns about its safety, effectiveness and whether the country has cut essential corners in development, CNN has learned.

Russian officials told CNN they are working toward a date of August 10 or earlier for approval of the vaccine, which has been created by the Moscow-based Gamaleya Institute.
It will be approved for public use, with frontline healthcare workers getting it first, they said.

Russia's defence ministry says that Russian soldiers served as volunteers in human trials.
In recorded comments provided to CNN, Alexander Ginsburg, the director of the project, said he has already injected himself with the vaccine.


Russia claims its set to approve world-first COVID-19 vaccine within weeks, despite safety fears
 
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Terrible. Beyond terrible. Almost wish I didn’t read it.

Sad thing is, it makes perfect sense to me, this whole “wave” thing he describes, or lack thereof. And challenges associated with mass vaccinations, etc.

We have known the challenge of vaccines and how long it takes, etc. I was hopeful though.

Man.

Speechless.

If this is the case, would I rather know the truth? Yes because we’ve come this far. But man, not what we wanted to hear obviously. But maybe we do need to know the truth though, that this option exists. I’ve quoted before from others that there is no guarantee on a vaccine.

Eta: yeah I can’t even process this.

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Eta2: I can’t believe this is happening.

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Eta3: Yeah I’m not sure I should’ve read that.

Gah/

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Re: this second article:

““For some, they may be anxious on whether a COVID-19 vaccine is safe and effective. Others may be mistrustful.””

(Raises hand.)

This virus is the work of the devil---
 
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