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Sisolak debuted the changes during a press conference in Carson City, where he said he planned to adopt a more granular approach to containing the virus — starting with next week’s rollout of a new “long-term mitigation strategy” that will examine ZIP code-level data on COVID-19 cases.

So cordoning off areas by ZIP Code - kind of like the Warsaw Ghetto? What could possibly go wrong with that plan?

Just my opinion (since about the beginning) but the only way we get back to normal is through some kind of mechanism that decouples lifestyle from a burden on health care. Health insurance plans penalize smokers and employer-subsidized plans all seem to include "wellness" provisions. Auto insurers penalize or deny coverage to drunk drivers. Insurers need Covid Plans. Full coverage for a large premium, discounts for people who can prove that they don't leave home, but ultimately a system that moves the risk to the individual. Eventually it would get like any other type of specialized care where every city would contain a branch of Covid Treatment Center's of America.

My wife heard that schools are opening for in-person learning on August 17, because enough parents made a stink. Combine that with loss of $600/wk checks and I think we going to see a pivot away from wall-to-wall coverage of the rarest and most extreme cases, and back the original boilerplate that the virus causes few, if any, symptoms in most people. There should perhaps be more emphasis and study put into the actual number of cases: Reported coronavirus cases vastly underestimate the true number of infections, U.S. government data published Tuesday suggest, echoing results from a smaller study last month. I understand that it's difficult, if not impossible, for public officials to talk about deaths in any manner that sounds clinical or disrespectful, but it's probably important that people understand the true risks.

The ABC news link in the middle of your post was interesting to me, specifically:

"The study likely detected infections in people who may have had no symptoms or only mild illness, and who never got coronavirus tests. Infection rates were from six times higher than reported cases in Connecticut to 24 times higher in Missouri."

Antibody tests show coronavirus rates 10x higher, CDC study finds

I believe there is an observable link between location and behavior, whether by individual choice or factors outside of an individual's control (i.e. Poverty, community guidelines). See Connecticut vs Missouri. Behaviors can be observed and the result quantified in terms of infection rates. MOO.
 
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This is a mystery, as NZ has been thought to be virus free for at least 3 or 4 months, I thought.


A person who flew from Auckland to Sydney this month has tested positive for Covid-19.

Air New Zealand flight NZ103 touched down in the Australian city on July 6 and has since been reported by New South Wales health officials as having a confirmed case of coronavirus on board.

The case had led New Zealand health officials to now test household and other contacts of the passenger here in Auckland.

Mystery case: Auckland to Sydney passenger tests Covid-19 positive
 
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This is a mystery, as NZ has been thought to be virus free for at least 3 or 4 months, I thought.


A person who flew from Auckland to Sydney this month has tested positive for Covid-19.

Air New Zealand flight NZ103 touched down in the Australian city on July 6 and has since been reported by New South Wales health officials as having a confirmed case of coronavirus on board.

The case had led New Zealand health officials to now test household and other contacts of the passenger here in Auckland.

Mystery case: Auckland to Sydney passenger tests Covid-19 positive


Second Covid-19 positive case on Auckland to Sydney flights

Sounds like at least 2 on that ✈️
 
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Brewers-Cardinals game tonight postponed due to positive test. Sources: Cardinals had positive tests, forcing postponement.
 
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I've heard the rapid flu tests aren't all that accurate as well. I think we need to work on accuracy here. Jmo

I believe it has to do with the timing of when the test was taken. If the tests are taken too soon after exposure, they won't pick up the infection. Our local testing centre is allowing anyone to have a test whenever they wish, hoping to pick up asymptomatic carriers. However, those who have been in contact with a known carrier, are asked to isolate for 5 days from the date of contact, and then get tested. The tests just aren't sensitive enough to pick up earlier infections.

Sorta like pregnancy tests which require a person to be a certain number of days into their pregnancy.
 
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Fauci 'cautiously optimistic' coronavirus vaccine could prove effective by 'late fall or early winter'

Top health experts at Friday's hearing will also express concern about the double whammy of COVID-19 and the seasonal flu this winter on the nation's health care system.

WASHINGTON — Dr. Anthony Fauci said Friday that he is "cautiously optimistic" that a coronavirus vaccine in the U.S. could prove effective by "late fall or early winter."

"We hope at the time we get into the late fall and early winter, we will have in fact a vaccine that we can say will be safe and effective. One can never guarantee the safety and effectiveness unless you do the trial, but we are cautiously optimistic," Fauci said in his opening remarks at a hearing before the House Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus Crisis...
 
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Brewers-Cardinals game tonight postponed due to positive test. Sources: Cardinals had positive tests, forcing postponement.
Is there a link for this news?
 
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So one of those passengers believes they had it in March when they returned from moving to the UK in January ? Am I getting this right? It immediately made me think of air crew. NZ-UK-NZ-AUS. That's a lot of flying during a pandemic if it is just a passenger IMO.

From reading both stories I think 2 passengers thought they had it. I may be remembering wrong. I wonder if any of the tests are picking up antibodies somehow? I'm a bit distracted this morning. I need to read again.
 
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I believe it has to do with the timing of when the test was taken. If the tests are taken too soon after exposure, they won't pick up the infection. Our local testing centre is allowing anyone to have a test whenever they wish, hoping to pick up asymptomatic carriers. However, those who have been in contact with a known carrier, are asked to isolate for 5 days from the date of contact, and then get tested. The tests just aren't sensitive enough to pick up earlier infections.

Sorta like pregnancy tests which require a person to be a certain number of days into their pregnancy.

It's a good thing pregnancy isn't highly contagious lol.
 
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Our county voted not to mandate masks. Instead, they decided to put the responsibility on each person individually. Every day the mayor puts up our current number on a board at the end of main street and makes a short fb video. Our goal is to keep going down, obviously. If we hit 40 cases they will revisit a mask mandate. I've seen a lot more mask usage in town since he started this. MOO.
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I used to watch Restaurant Impossible, a show in the US where a chef goes in to help owners. He started a new "pandemic series" where he has travelled for 30 days with a skeleton crew of 12 staff on two buses to aid folks he helped in the show which are going down due to COVID. Website and takeout were biggies. The one I watched had neither before his crew got to them to help with such.

Ah, I used to watch Robert Irvine on Restaurant Impossible. I no longer get the Food Network Channel, so I didn’t know about his new show. How cool.

Your post reminded me of this article I read in the LA Times. This Little Tokyo Service Center is doing similar, helping the businesses in the community during these times. This quote was touching:
”Long ago,” he wrote in his first Facebook post, “I remember my father, a very grumpy old man often complaining, ‘These young people, they’re doing nothing!’ And I have also often found myself saying the very same thing. But now, in these dark times in Little Tokyo, young people are coming to me and saying, ‘We are here for you in this time, let’s fight through this together.’”
To make ends meet, these Little Tokyo restaurants are embracing social media (with some help)
 
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Our county voted not to mandate masks. Instead, they decided to put the responsibility on each person individually. Every day the mayor puts up our current number on a board at the end of main street and makes a short fb video. Our goal is to keep going down, obviously. If we hit 40 cases they will revisit a mask mandate. I've seen a lot more mask usage in town since he started this. MOO.
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I like that!
 
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Worldometers has Wednesday's Death total at 1,465. Same Identical total for yesterday.

For today, Florida just reported 256 Deaths. New Record.
 
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Details of the strategic UK lockdowns.

Department of Health and Social Care (@DHSCgovuk) on Twitter

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Department of Health and Social Care

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Due to a rise of #COVID19 cases in Greater Manchester, East Lancashire and West Yorkshire, new restrictions on gatherings have been introduced. Households in these regions MUST NOT:

Invite others to their homes

Meet anyone from another household in their home or garden


Department of Health and Social Care

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Our COVID-19 statistics website has been updated. View the full UK dataset online:

Coronavirus cases in the UK: daily updated statistics Data on deaths has been temporarily paused while an urgent review into

@PHE_UK

data is carried out.

Coronavirus cases in the UK: daily updated statistics

From the link


This website will be decommissioned on Tuesday 4 August 2020. Please read the announcement to learn more about how this change might affect you or your service.

Coronavirus (COVID-19) in the UK
Last updated on Friday 31 July 2020 at 3:59pm
Total number of lab-confirmed UK cases
303,181
Total number of people who have had a positive test result

Daily number of lab-confirmed UK cases
880
Number of additional cases on Friday 31 July 2020

Total number of COVID-19 associated UK deaths
46,119
Deaths of people who have had a positive test result

Daily number of COVID-19 associated UK deaths
120
Number of additional deaths on Friday 31 July 2020

COVID-19 associated deaths
Total number by nation
Scotland
2,491
England
41,512
Northern Ireland
556
Wales
1,560
 
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