Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #72

[Tigerlily75]

I sure feel bad for teachers/staff, children and family in this school safety situation. Just doesn't seem to be any clear answer as to what should happen. I know job positions are now opening up in certain areas in schools. I bet most of us can kind of guess why. If my children were school age my choice would to do my best teaching them at home and that means I would want to watch/teach my own kids and my husband worked. I do not think my husband likes teaching but had helped at times the kids had school work questions. He always would say I sure wouldn't want to teach kids.

I feel bad for everyone too. It just seems there’s no easy answers. Schools being closed is not ideal and there are consequences for that, especially for children in low socio economic situations. On the other hand we opened schools here in Victoria and one after another had to close as clusters of the virus emerged within them. What do you do? No easy answers.

 

[Tigerlily75]

700+ cases and 16 deaths in victoria today, i think we may be screwed ugh

I’m feeling a strong urge to pack up now and move to Perth!

 

[SouthAussie]

I wish I could see your morning news. For the tone, the wording, the way they're handling it on air.

8 days! People indeed must be angry.

At least Queensland can slam its borders (Los Angeles County's airport is designated an essential U.S. business...all kinds of people suddenly have to visit sick relatives here...they keep coming, no quarantine). I think if Gov Newsom tried to quarantine visitors from outside, people would be very displeased, angry - even up in arms, especially in the eager-to-open areas like Orange County.

I don't know if you can see the video in this article. It is a snippet from the morning news (after the brief 15 sec ad). This info is played over several times during the 2 hour morning show.

https://7news.com.au/sunrise/on-the...ronavirus-border-scandal-identified-c-1204127

"It’s understood the infected pair attended a dental practice, five restaurants, bars and other public places in six different suburbs while they should have been isolating."

 

[SouthAussie]

I’m feeling a strong urge to pack up now and move to Perth!

Me, too! And I don't even live in your state. But we are very nervous that someone is going to sneak across our closed mutual border and start the spread here.

As I was driving to work today in the beautiful sunshine I thought to myself "You may be on lockdown again soon. Enjoy this now, enjoy the horses grazing, and the kangaroo who was hopping along near the road (being protected by a slow moving police car who was trying to discourage him from jumping in front of the cars)."

 

[Clair Louise]

I don't know if you can see the video in this article. It is a snippet from the morning news (after the brief 15 min ad). This info is played over several times during the 2 hour morning show.

https://7news.com.au/sunrise/on-the...ronavirus-border-scandal-identified-c-1204127

"It’s understood the infected pair attended a dental practice, five restaurants, bars and other public places in six different suburbs while they should have been isolating."

But why were they allowed into or out of Victoria while the border was supposedly closed. How did that happen?

 

[SouthAussie]

But why were they allowed into or out of Victoria while the border was supposedly closed. How did that happen?

I don't know. No-one is really saying ... or not that I have heard. All I heard is that they were in Melbourne shopping, and took a flight back to Qld. Then lied on their incoming declaration (perhaps said they didn't spend time in the infected areas?)

No-one is even saying their names - just showing their photos. But they were supposed to be isolating.

ETA: I just heard their names in the news link that Tigerlily supplied. First time I've heard it.

 

[Tigerlily75]

I wish I could see your morning news. For the tone, the wording, the way they're handling it on air.

8 days! People indeed must be angry.

At least Queensland can slam its borders (Los Angeles County's airport is designated an essential U.S. business...all kinds of people suddenly have to visit sick relatives here...they keep coming, no quarantine). I think if Gov Newsom tried to quarantine visitors from outside, people would be very displeased, angry - even up in arms, especially in the eager-to-open areas like Orange County.

Here is a YouTube link of this mornings news:

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[Betty P]

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/covid-19-long-haulers-report-nearly-100-symptoms-more-100-n1235217

"How long does it take you to get back to normal? That's an open question," Dr. Anthony Fauci told NBC News.

COVID-19 symptoms that can linger for weeks and months after a diagnosis may be wide-ranging — and include everything from joint pain and fevers, to hair loss and double vision.

In fact, those patients, self-nicknamed the long-haulers, reported experiencing 98 different symptoms in a survey released Wednesday.

"They're not quite sick enough to be hospitalized, but they are suffering from very severe symptoms, sometimes for a very long time at home," Natalie Lambert, an associate professor of medicine at the Indiana University School of Medicine, said...

Yikes! There's definitely something about the virus that affects the brain and neuro system in some people. Either the virus itself or the high, prolonged fever. I'm not a medical expert, but just reckoning from many of those long term symptoms.

 

[tmar]

What a disappointing article:
Concern Victoria is already 'too far gone' to halt the spread of COVID

Concern Victoria is already 'too far gone' to halt the spread of COVID

Sky News Australia

2 hrs ago
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Some within the federal government are concerned the COVID-19 situation in Victoria is already “too far gone” and the state will now have to concentrate on ensuring it has enough ventilators, beds and personal protective equipment to cope with the expected influx of patients.

© Provided by Sky News Australia
Sky News Political Editor Andrew said the curve in Victoria, which recorded 723 new cases in the past 24 hours, is concerning.

“One senior figure in government in Australia has suggested to me that Victoria is too far gone,” he said.

“That it does not have the structures in place to quell the virus through contact tracing and so forth and now it just has to make sure it has to have enough ventilators, beds and personal protective equipment.”
Mr Clennell said approximately three-and-a-half people are testing positive to the disease, making it difficult to contain it.

“By contrast in NSW, over the past week, an average of three in 5,000 cases are positive," he said.

“It is really alarming and you wonder just when Melbourne will have to go into some sort of hard lockdown to get rid of the virus or is it just too late.

“It is going to be very hard to keep this virus out of New South Wales and Queensland.

“Truckies are still travelling between the states because of the need for freight to continue, for starters. The only hope is the sort of contact tracing work NSW is doing.”

Mr Clennell said Victoria's contact tracing failures has national ramifications.

"The federal view is that the testing and contact tracing regime is so far behind in Victoria that they are playing catchup," he said.
"The only thing that does not cause alarm in these figures today is that a lot of the figures today are from aged care and people passing it on at home. So not as much community transmission as you might fear.

 

[Tigerlily75]

The women who entered Queensland dishonestly have been charged and face up to five years imprisonment for fraud. Breaking news from the Live Feed at 'Virus teens' charged for allegedly sneaking into Queensland

In breaking news, three women who allegedly snuck into Queensland after a trip to Melbourne and sparked an outbreak crisis have been charged by police, including with fraud.

Yesterday, it was announced that two women had tested positive for coronavirus but had been going about their business in the community for eight days instead of quarantining.

They had flown back into Brisbane on July 21 after holidaying in Melbourne, a declared hotspot, but allegedly lied on their border declaration forms.

A 22-year-old woman, who is a sister of one of the pair, has also tested positive in Queensland’s first case of community transmission since May.

Olivia Winnie Muranga, 19, Diana Lasu, 21, and a third unidentified woman who is known to them, also 21, have been charged with one count each of providing false or misleading documents under section 364 of the Public Health Act.

That charge carries a maximum penalty of $13,345.

All three also face a single serious charge of fraud (dishonestly gaining benefit/advantage), which has a maximum penalty of five years' imprisonment.

The third woman hasn't tested positive to COVID-19 but is in quarantine.

This morning, Queensland chief health officer Dr Jeannette Young said one of the two women to test positive was refusing to cooperate with authorities attempting to trace her contacts.

It seems she has now had a change of heart.

"Police can also confirm that all three women are now cooperating with QPS and Queensland Health officials," a Queensland Police spokesperson said.

They added: "A criminal investigation is also being undertaken by Task Force Sierra Linnet investigators which is unrelated and not connected to the alleged travel to Victoria."

The three women, all currently in quarantine, will face court on September 28.

 

[astheworldfallsdown]

Coronavirus: 'Second wave starting to roll across Europe' as isolation period set to be extended

Health Secretary Matt Hancock has said he is "worried" about a second wave, as the government is expected to extend the isolation period for people with coronavirus symptoms.

Mr Hancock told Sky News there was a "second wave starting to roll across Europe" and warned the UK must "do everything to prevent it reaching these shores".

"It's something I worry about and I worry about it because we can see it coming," he said.

The government is expected to announce today that people will have to isolate for 10 days instead of seven in England, but it is not clear if Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland will adopt the same policy.

Those who have come into close contact with someone who has tested positive for COVID-19 will still have to stay at home for the same amount of time - 14 days.

Up until now, if you had a new and continuous cough, fever or change or loss in taste or smell, you only had to isolate for a week.

The health secretary said more details will be set out later today, adding: "We will always do what is necessary to protect people.

 

[SouthAussie]

COVID-19 DOGS COULD BE SNIFFING OUT CASES IN MONTHS

University of Adelaide researchers are working with international partners to train sniffer dogs to detect COVID-19 infection.

It is hoped the first COVID-19 detection dogs could be working within months, and would complement existing methods by providing low cost, instantaneous and reliable screening.

Dogs could be deployed in airports and also be used to screen staff in hospitals and travellers in quarantine.

Previous research has shown dogs can detect the presence of specific Volatile Olfactory Compounds (VOCs) caused by a viral infection in people.

COVID-19 dogs could be sniffing out cases in months

 

[tresir2012]

I’m saying that if Hydroxychloroquine was a viable, safe miracle cure as claimed, scientists around the world would still be conducting trials as a treatment and/or heavily promoting it as a treatment if previous trials had shown it indeed was. But you said they are now only trialing it as a preventative, not as a treatment. Why would they stop trialing it if it’s a great cure, if not for some kind of conspiracy, and I’m simply saying: I do not believe there is some kind of conspiracy here. If it’s shown to work they will use it, and if it’s not they won’t. Scientists are doing what they always do, it’s not them who are bizarrely politicizing this drug. The video has been widely condemned as misinformation including by Websleuths and it’s preferred we no longer discuss it.

The FDA have only banned the emergency use not the preventative (the trials) or the off label use for doctors to prescribe as they see fit. That was clear from the FDA press release and the MSM video from Scott Gottlieb already posted.

This is the study that has shown successful results.

Treatment with Hydroxychloroquine Cut Death Rate Significantly in COVID-19 Patients, Henry Ford Health System Study Shows

 

[Tigerlily75]

The FDA have only banned the emergency use not the preventative (the trials) or the off label use for doctors to prescribe as they see fit. That was clear from the FDA press release and the MSM video from Scott Gottlieb already posted.

This is the study that has shown successful results.

Treatment with Hydroxychloroquine Cut Death Rate Significantly in COVID-19 Patients, Henry Ford Health System Study Shows

Yes I know, that’s what I‘ve said repeatedly. There’s no ban on it and if it works and is appropriate they’ll use it. I’m not sure why you keep responding as though I’ve said differently. I’ve said that all along,

 

[astheworldfallsdown]

Coronavirus: England had highest excess deaths in Europe over first half of 2020, ONS says

England suffered the highest levels of excess deaths of any country in Europe over the first half of 2020, the Office of National Statistics has said.

But while England had endured the largest overall increase in deaths, the report says Spain had the highest peak.

Scientists have said excess mortality figures are the most reliable measure of the relative impact of COVID-19.

This is because countries record their deaths differently and will not necessarily account for those caused indirectly by the pandemic, such as people who have died due to delayed access to healthcare.

The ONS report said: "While England did not have the highest peak mortality, it did have the longest continuous period of excess mortality of any country compared, resulting in England having the highest levels of excess mortality in Europe for the period as a whole."

By the week ending May 29, the cumulative mortality rate in England was 7.55% higher than the average mortality rate in the period from 2015 to 2019.

Spain was ranked second at 6.65%, followed by Scotland (5.11%), Belgium (3.89%) and Wales (2.78%).

And by the week ending June 12, England's cumulative mortality rate was 7.61% higher than the five-year average, which was the highest among 18 countries where data was available.

 

[astheworldfallsdown]

Coronavirus: Australia suffers worst day in pandemic with more than 700 new cases

Australia has suffered its worst day of the coronavirus pandemic, with more than 700 new infections and 13 deaths from the disease recorded in Victoria, the country's second-most populous state.

The country's previous national record of new cases was 518 but a second wave of the coronavirus, centred on care homes, has seen numbers rise again.

The new daily high saw 723 confirmed coronavirus cases.

Victorian state premier Daniel Andrews said: "I'm obviously concerned to see these numbers increase. It is not unexpected in some ways when you have got so many cases in private sector aged care."

Too many people were going to work when they were sick or while they were waiting for test results, he added.

Further restrictions are being brought in to combat the surge; Melbourne, Victoria's state capital, has already been locked down since earlier this month and other states have closed their borders.

Social distancing restrictions are to be extended, with people in the state's south no longer allowed to have visitors to their homes from Thursday.

 

[SouthAussie]

Here's a hot spot where final-development-phase vaccine testing is happening .... for two different potential covid vaccines.


Andréa Barbosa was thrilled to be jabbed in the arm. The 46-year-old ophthalmologist is one of the 5,000 volunteers in the clinical trial in Brazil of a COVID-19 vaccine candidate, ChAdOx1. The vaccine is being developed by the University of Oxford in the United Kingdom in collaboration with the biopharmaceutical company AstraZeneca.

The vaccine is now in the third and final development phase: testing volunteers in Brazil at the Federal University of São Paulo’s Reference Center for Special Immunobiologicals, as well as at two locations run by the D'Or Institute for Research and Education.
Oxford vaccine enters final phase of COVID-19 trials. Here's what happens now.


Last week, Brazil also became the first country carrying out Phase 3 trials of Chinese vaccine CoronaVac, developed by pharmaceutical firm Sinovac Biotech.

Phase 3 clinical trials involve large-scale testing on humans, the last step before vaccines seek regulatory approval.
Medical workers play the starring role in testing that vaccine, too.
"They pick health care professionals because we are constantly at risk," Levi said.

Volunteers must be between 18 and 55 years old, work in a patient care role and have no underlying medical conditions.
Brazil doctors volunteer to test coronavirus vaccines

 

[tresir2012]

Yes I know, that’s what I‘ve said repeatedly. There’s no ban on it and if it works and is appropriate they’ll use it. I’m not sure why you keep responding as though I’ve said differently. I’ve said that all along,

I replied so I could provide the study link to you and anyone else who is interested.

 

[astheworldfallsdown]

Amazon site and pharmacy linked to Covid cluster

Amazon has confirmed that a member of staff is in quarantine after a coronavirus cluster was identified in Inverclyde.

The company said the worker was based in a warehouse in Gourock.

A pharmacy in Port Glasgow is also among a number of businesses that have been linked to the new cluster.

The cluster of eight positive tests was noted among 14 new cases in the Greater Glasgow and Clyde health board area on Wednesday.

Scotland's national clinical director, Prof Jason Leitch told the BBC's Good Morning Scotland programme that the pharmacy in Port Glasgow was still open but that locals should not be concerned about using services.

He said: "We've been in touch with the pharmacy and we're very, very comfortable with how the pharmacy has behaved both up to this point and yesterday.

"People should not be scared to use pharmacies in the area."

He added that the option of a local lockdown to control the Inverclyde cluster was being kept "in reserve" and would be used if necessary.

"If we thought this virus had gone into community transmission mode, like we saw in early and late March, then we would of course do something more dramatic," he said.

In a statement, Amazon said they were supporting the individual in quarantine and were following guidelines from health officials about operations at their buildings.

They added: "We have implemented proactive measures to protect employees, including increased cleaning at all facilities and maintaining social distance."

NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde said none of those who had tested positive for coronavirus in the latest cluster were experiencing anything more than mild symptoms and that contact tracing was continuing.

It added: "Close contacts are being advised to self-isolate and other identified contacts are being followed up and given appropriate advice."

Inverclyde SNP councillor Chris McEleny also told the GMS programme that new local restrictions may have to be considered.

"I lost sleep last night over the prospect that if one person was in contact with five or six or 10 other people, in 14 days' time we could see this starting to get out of control," he said.

He also said community testing should be considered given the fact that Inverclyde is among the areas worst affected by Covid.

He suggested a "rolling programme of randomly testing people".

First Minister Nicola Sturgeon confirmed during Wednesday's briefing that an incident management team was meeting to discuss the development.

The cases were among 22 reported across Scotland on Wednesday.

Ms Sturgeon has previously said localised outbreaks of the virus are all but inevitable, following clusters in North Lanarkshire and Dumfries and Galloway.

However, the first minister said the "test and protect" system was working well, with the number of people being treated in hospital for Covid-19 remaining low.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Dr. Fauci to be honored with 2020 Robert F. Kennedy Human Rights Award

Kaepernick and Fauci will be honored as Robert F. Kennedy Human Rights award laureates - CNN
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Also, I'm seeing lots of comments on stuff that is released through company and other marketing departments, and folks on my facebook threads are believing stuff re *supposed* treatments/vaccine timelines/ etc.

It makes me so grrrrrr that folks can't discern marketing department release to up the stock/promote their organization vs. peer reviewed or at least release of the study for such.

I'm glad that most posts I see here can discern such, although I miss our discussions based only on science back in Jan/Feb here. MOO (It is very sad indeed when the "claim" is only on the company website... and folks post it on social media)

We must be vigilant MOO as most folks aren't critical thinkers it appears and can differentiate. MOO