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Lots of great tributes coming in regarding the life of Herman Cain. Mr. Cain was a husband, father of two, and grandfather of several. And loved and admired by Americans around the country, especially by his loyal and dedicated friends and staff. He will be greatly missed. Below are some of the tributes to his memory. There will be many more in the days ahead as we celebrate his life.

Gov. Brian Kemp tweeted about Cain’s death, saying Cain “was an unwavering patriot, a conservative stalwart & a deeply wise, thoughtful man who lived the American Dream. He was truly one of a kind & his loss is devastating to many, including our family. Please pray for his loved ones, friends & colleagues.”

Sen. David Perdue also issued a statement on Cain’s death, saying:

“Bonnie and I are devastated to learn of the passing of one of our closest friends, Herman Cain. Guided by faith, Herman grew up humbly and went on to become an accomplished business leader. He lived the American dream and aspired to share his success with others. Herman’s love for our country was unmatched, and he will be greatly missed. Our prayers are with Gloria and their family, and all of Herman’s friends and staff, as they mourn this huge loss.”

Tributes pour in for Herman Cain after death from coronavirus

Trump mourns Herman Cain: ‘He was a very special man, an American Patriot, and great friend’
 
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I still don't quite understand it, but I like and trust you anyway.

I need my second cup of morning coffee :)

So some areas in the state have a high R0, and some areas have a lower R0, then that R0 is averaged across the state.
 
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Children May Carry Coronavirus at High Levels, Study Finds

Infected children have at least as much of the coronavirus in their noses and throats as infected adults, according to the research. Indeed, children younger than age 5 may host up to 100 times as much of the virus in the upper respiratory tract as adults, the authors found.

“It definitely shows that kids do have levels of virus similar to and maybe even higher than adults,” Dr. Heald-Sargent said. “It wouldn’t be surprising if they were able to shed” the virus and spread it to others.

The results are consistent with those from a German study of 47 infected children between the ages 1 and 11, which showed that children who did not have symptoms had viral loads as high as adults’, or higher. And a recent study from France found that asymptomatic children had C.T. values similar to those of children with symptoms.
 
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I have mentioned this before, if you filter those results to look at the Top Ten latest numbers (using the filter on the right), the results are very different.

Something is wrong with their figures/graphs and can't be deemed as reliable. imo

I have put a screenshot of the Top Ten graph here, for those who can't find the filter.

View attachment 257681

Rt COVID-19

That filter appears to be referring to population - so Top 10 just shows the data for the 10 most populous states, not top 10 Rt numbers.
 
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That filter appears to be referring to population - so Top 10 just shows the data for the 10 most populous states, not top 10 Rt numbers.

That makes sense. I haven't been able to check out the filter in question.
 
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That filter appears to be referring to population - so Top 10 just shows the data for the 10 most populous states, not top 10 Rt numbers.

Agreed. What is in question is the R0. The circled area (with the state's initial) appears to be an averaged point of each state's range of R0 from different areas within the state. Some areas being at the top of the range, some areas being at the lower end of the range. Then it is averaged.

This makes more sense to me, knowing that (for example) Houston is a hotspot with a probable R0 near/at the top of the range, whereas other TX areas would have a much lower R0. All TX areas would not have the same R0.

It also makes sense, to me, because each state's shaded area are different sizes.
 
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WATCH LIVE: Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey to hold 3 p.m. coronavirus briefing

The Doug is about to hold his weekly presser. Things tend to get heated at the QA. Today was a day of extremes with our Rt being third lowest in the country and percent positive dropping to 11, on one hand, and record deaths reported (although not all from one day) and our appearance on the Harvard "Lock Down Now" list, on the other.

Nothing new, today. Only fireworks were when a couple of reporters asked how people are supposed to live on AZ's $240/wk unemployment.

A couple of guys asked what specific metrics are need for bars and gyms to open, but all they got back was a lot of double talk.
 
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I believe that it is displayed as a range, using the coloured marker. From the top range down to the bottom range.
It is not clear why there is a range though. Possibly incorporating different areas within the various states?
Very confusing graphs ... not clear at all .... and all different depending on which of their graphs you look at for the exact same data.

I think the circled state initials are an averaged point of the range of the R0.

So some areas in the state have a high R0, and some areas have a lower R0, then that R0 is averaged across the state.

R-naught is always stated this way, as it is based on averages and it is based on data that has a known rate of error. Some places do not input their case data in a regular basis (last I checked, AZ had 50,000 backlogged cases - down from 82,000 at Sonora Quest Labs two weeks ago). Unlike death certificates, the time when the test is run is used as the date (so it really varies).

Some R-naught models are less optimistic than rt.live, but always within the range that rt.live presents. So they are close.

R-naught rates lag by a bit, due to the nature of the calculation and the data.

The lower the rate, the better. If it's less than 1, the virus in question will eventually go away/be very controllable.
 
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R-naught is always stated this way, as it is based on averages and it is based on data that has a known rate of error. Some places do not input their case data in a regular basis (last I checked, AZ had 50,000 backlogged cases - down from 82,000 at Sonora Quest Labs two weeks ago). Unlike death certificates, the time when the test is run is used as the date (so it really varies).

Some R-naught models are less optimistic than rt.live, but always within the range that rt.live presents. So they are close.

R-naught rates lag by a bit, due to the nature of the calculation and the data.

The lower the rate, the better. If it's less than 1, the virus in question will eventually go away/be very controllable.

Thanks. I have been trying to work this out for a while ... and finally came to a conclusion that made sense to me. :)
 
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In NSW and the ACT, customers and staff in all stores will be “strongly encouraged” to wear a mask from Monday August 3.


In Queensland, the guideline applies to stores and sites within hotspot areas in the state from Friday July 31.

The guidelines also apply to Big W, Dan Murphy’s, BWS stores and ALH Hotels.

“The safety and wellbeing of our customers, teams and communities is our top priority,” Woolworths Group CEO Brad Banducci said in a statement.

https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/heal...ar-facemasks-in-nsw-the-act-and-qld-c-1206039
 
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I fully support the aims of the protesters but in the middle of a pandemic it's just too dangerous IMO.

Though I can understand them wanting to keep the momentum going and also understand the case of "if not now, when"
 
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I fully support the aims of the protesters but in the middle of a pandemic it's just too dangerous IMO.

Though I can understand them wanting to keep the momentum going and also understand the case of "if not now, when"

They need to get creative. Use a huge online presence, for the time being. Something that attracts the media. Same with political rallies. Now is not the time. imo

Sure, it is not the same as being videotaped marching on govt buildngs, or your political supporters waving flags - but seriously, there is a pandemic going on. Thousands of worldwide deaths occuring daily. Nobody is immune.
 
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May Herman Cain rest in peace.

Condolences to his wife and children and others who loved him. I'm sure he was their everything.

Stay classy folks and please just forego all the personalizing or negative commentary.

Some posts have been removed. Sometimes life comes down to simply having compassion by just acknowledging the sad passing of another human being.
 
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I find it's hard on my stomach too (DH is the same). He absolutely cannot take Vitamin C, but @JaneEyre helped me out with that yesterday (we ordered some Prelief - we'll see how that goes).

Do you know about N-acetyl Cysteine? (NAC) They're using it pretty regularly in hospitals and in outpatient treatment of mild to moderate CoVid, it's part of the chain of molecules that leads from Vitamin D to the boosting of immune cell function. It doesn't smell so good in the bottle, but at least it's not acidic.

Quercetin is in use as well, as it pushes zinc into cells.

Within any luck, all of this will all magically stop aging and also reduce wrinkles!

I'm taking NAC and quercetin here too as well as zinc.
 
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