Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #75

[Clair Louise]

Right. How many are sick enough for the hospital?
???

It doesn't really matter how sick they are, they can still pass it on to others not as young as they.

 

[oviedo]

I’d like to share something that happened at my office today - a client dropped in with someone else (the client had Covid and was recovered) no masks and the person with the client worked in a role where frequent contact with many is part of the job And likely infected the client - I sanitized all the surfaces when they left including our client bathroom but this really showed me why we have a serious problem in Florida - people just don’t get it ... no courtesy to wear masks or even call ahead to see if we were available
JMO

 

[LadyL]

I like it too. Sort of like having your own box seats.
I wonder if this is driving ticket prices up.

probably
I guess that's the downside
but worth it!

 

[Simply Southern]

Google and Facebook must be providing data to the govt.
The Victoria Chief Health Officer is currently in a presser ... he responded to a journo by saying "Google & FB geodata shows people's movements. We can see that movement in the city of Melbourne is currently down by over 90%"

He also says that he believes Victoria has peaked. They should be on the downslope now. Every day they were seeing 20-30 new clusters, now they are seeing daily new clusters in the single digits.
And the aged care situation seems to be stabilising (my opinion: we can likely thank AUSMAT for that).

https://www.smh.com.au/national/cor...ralian-death-toll-at-375-20200815-p55lzl.html

Wonderful news.

 

[LadyL]

I’d like to share something that happened at my office today - a client dropped in with someone else (the client had Covid and was recovered) no masks and the person with the client worked in a role where frequent contact with many is part of the job And likely infected the client - I sanitized all the surfaces when they left including our client bathroom but this really showed me why we have a serious problem in Florida - people just don’t get it ... no courtesy to wear masks or even call ahead to see if we were available
JMO

someone has to tell these people the way it is

 

[Deleted member 39678]

I’d like to share something that happened at my office today - a client dropped in with someone else (the client had Covid and was recovered) no masks and the person with the client worked in a role where frequent contact with many is part of the job And likely infected the client - I sanitized all the surfaces when they left including our client bathroom but this really showed me why we have a serious problem in Florida - people just don’t get it ... no courtesy to wear masks or even call ahead to see if we were available
JMO

How did you know the client had Covid and has since recovered? How do you know that the your coworker likely infected the client?

Sounds like your coworker is infected and still working at the office. Why?

 

[10ofRods]

Wow. She's really on top of things. I hope they fair well. I was shocked to look at the worldometer number though and see the HI total is like one day in my state. And everyone here is acting like,"Ehh, your gonna get eventually."

Don't get it! I know how that feels (when nearly every acts as if "everyone is going to get it anyway. Nope, a lot of us won't get it, we'll get the vaccine.

The numbers are scary, but we got this. We'll stay home. Steady as we go. If we're lucky, a lot of our family and friends will do the same.

It's a huge stress on everyone, I think young families are really missing the excitement of school starting and all that.goes with it. There's sure to be a bump-up in case numbers in the next couple of months, but maybe the deaths will flatten (age of new infections) and we'll ride it out. Until the vaccine.

 

[Clair Louise]

someone has to tell these people the way it is

But they don't believe it or say 'I had it and I am fine'. My sister had polio when she was two and only has changes to her feet, but millions of others were not so lucky.

 

[oviedo]

How did you know the client had Covid and has since recovered? How do you know that the your coworker likely infected the client?

Sounds like your coworker is infected and still working at the office. Why?

Let me clarify the client had covid and reported it to us as we had met prior to - the friend the client brought was the one who infected the client by the clients admission as they were roommates and the friend is a bouncer at a bar- so the way the client explained it was roommate brought Covid home from bar asymptomatic but client got very sick and recovered - none of our employees have it that I know of - but it’s careless behavior by the client but after all - they are the client

 

[10ofRods]

Right. How many are sick enough for the hospital?
???

Right now, the biggest group taking up hospital beds are in the 18-49 age group. About 35% of the total in hospital cases for the past two weeks. Hospitals where I live aren't quite to the overflow level, but we watch anxiously and everyone's healthcare services are curtailed if they aren't CoVid patients or emergencies.

https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/COVIDNet/COVID19_5.html

Looked at from the other perspective (how many. of those who are positive end up in the hospital?), it would be a much smaller percentage, but the idea is that we need to get hospital usage back to something like normal.

To calculate accurately the number of CoVid+ people end up in hospital, we need that data again (and only some hospitalization data, as shown above, is being shared with CDC - you'll see the interface is not particularly public-friendly).

The overall hospitalization rate since March 1 is 144 per 100,000.

COVIDView, Key Updates for Week 31

 

[155etta]

I am convinced many people really don't understand what a pandemic is nor how contagious the virus is--- they just don't understand---there are lots of not so bright people out there

Understatement. MOO.

 

[MrX]

I've personally noticed, and heard from others, that restaurants are packed in a way we haven't seen since before. I watched an owner, tonight, suffer anxiety over what to do when his place was in total violation of regulations. I know we don't have the funds to pay inspectors - how are other States coping? The only thing I ever heard was Michigan sending police to homes when people were caught violating lock down.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Let me clarify the client had covid and reported it to us as we had met prior to - the friend the client brought was the one who infected the client by the clients admission as they were roommates and the friend is a bouncer at a bar- so the way the client explained it was roommate brought Covid home from bar asymptomatic but client got very sick and recovered - none of our employees have it that I know of - but it’s careless behavior by the client but after all - they are the client

Also careless behavior by your employers for allowing people who they know could still be shedding the virus to come into the office, face masks or not. JMO

 

[Clair Louise]

I've personally noticed, and heard from others, that restaurants are packed in a way we haven't seen since before. I watched an owner, tonight, suffer anxiety over what to do when his place was in total violation of regulations. I know we don't have the funds to pay inspectors - how are other States coping? The only thing I ever heard was Michigan sending police to homes when people were caught violating lock down.

Did the owner of the restaurant have to admit all those people?

 

[Deleted member 39678]

California salons forced to operate outside amid heat wave

SACRAMENTO, Calif. —

Amid this week’s heat wave, some businesses are still forced to operate outside because of county and state COVID-19 public health restrictions.

Amid the heat wave, that is the dilemma salons now face: operate outdoors in triple digit heat or close.

“My business is in jeopardy. And same with every salon in California,” O’Daniel said.

California salons forced to operate outside amid heat wave

 

[SouthAussie]

I've personally noticed, and heard from others, that restaurants are packed in a way we haven't seen since before. I watched an owner, tonight, suffer anxiety over what to do when his place was in total violation of regulations. I know we don't have the funds to pay inspectors - how are other States coping? The only thing I ever heard was Michigan sending police to homes when people were caught violating lock down.

In South Australia we cope by only allowing a certain number of people per seating. Whatever our state covid rules allow at the time (it changes and/or depends on the size of the resaurant).
Restaurants usually have two or three seatings a night. For example, 5-7pm, 7-9pm, 9-11pm .... some don't have the late seating.

Once reservations for the seatings are full, or the restaurant seating becomes full without reservations, people are politely turned away after being offered a reservation at another time.

 

[slowpoke]

bolded by me

Q&A under General FAQs
Does FDA have recommendations for healthcare providers using SARS-CoV-2 diagnostic tests for screening asymptomatic individuals for COVID-19? (New 8/14)

...Alternatively, if less sensitive tests, such as some rapid point-of-care tests, are used, healthcare providers should be aware of the performance of the tests and may want to consider different testing approaches, such as serial testing (i.e., testing the asymptomatic individuals and then repeating the testing with a different test or with new samples collected on a different day, if the first test result is negative).

“Negative” results should be considered as “presumptive negative” and healthcare providers should consider them in the context of clinical observations, patient history, and epidemiological information.

I guess like Gov. DeWine, we are to all get “serial tested” in order to be sure what our actual state of infection is? Nice if you can get it, I guess!

In CA, at least. I think we’re still at a place where anyone who is asymptomatic cannot get tested. That is, people who don’t fit in a category of hospitalized, symptomatic, or are essential workers; I’m speaking of those who do not have symptoms, but are worried they may have been infected. So, hard enough to get a single test let alone multiple tests in succession, and in a timely manner (you may recall it took 14 days for me to get results for the non-rapid PCR test.)

It’s pretty dismal that the FDA is having to admit that the rapid test is not very accurate, as evidenced by these statements they’ve added to their page. Discouraging.
MOO

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Mental Health, Substance Use, and Suicidal Ideation During the COVID-19 Pandemic — United States, June 24–30, 2020

Summary
What is already known about this topic?

Communities have faced mental health challenges related to COVID-19–associated morbidity, mortality, and mitigation activities.

What is added by this report?

During June 24–30, 2020, U.S. adults reported considerably elevated adverse mental health conditions associated with COVID-19. Younger adults, racial/ethnic minorities, essential workers, and unpaid adult caregivers reported having experienced disproportionately worse mental health outcomes, increased substance use, and elevated suicidal ideation.

What are the implications for public health practice?

The public health response to the COVID-19 pandemic should increase intervention and prevention efforts to address associated mental health conditions. Community-level efforts, including health communication strategies, should prioritize young adults, racial/ethnic minorities, essential workers, and unpaid adult caregivers.

Mental Health, Substance Use, and Suicidal Ideation During the ...

 

[musicaljoke]

I’d like to share something that happened at my office today - a client dropped in with someone else (the client had Covid and was recovered) no masks and the person with the client worked in a role where frequent contact with many is part of the job And likely infected the client - I sanitized all the surfaces when they left including our client bathroom but this really showed me why we have a serious problem in Florida - people just don’t get it ... no courtesy to wear masks or even call ahead to see if we were available
JMO

How is it that clients can get into your office like that? Are there no protocols in place to prevent walk ins?

Many of the professional services in these parts, (ON) have their doors locked to clients, so the scenerio you describe can't happen. The accountant's office has a drop box in the entryway. Clients don't go beyond that.

The veterinary hospitals doors are locked. You ring when you arrive. Conversations and paperwork are done outside. Pets are taken in for treatment without their owners, who wait outside.

Law offices are doing virtual meetings and electronic signatures. Real estate is by appointment. Of course, all medical services have pre-screening at the door.

People are never going to stop walking into offices in ways that bring risks to those who work there unless protocols are put in place to protect staff, other clients, and the facilities.

 

[Trino]

I’d like to share something that happened at my office today - a client dropped in with someone else (the client had Covid and was recovered) no masks and the person with the client worked in a role where frequent contact with many is part of the job And likely infected the client - I sanitized all the surfaces when they left including our client bathroom but this really showed me why we have a serious problem in Florida - people just don’t get it ... no courtesy to wear masks or even call ahead to see if we were available JMO

Thank you for sharing. Another horror story. There are so many. How did we get to be such a "me" society?