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Minnesota wedding linked to 70 coronavirus cases, officials say
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A summer wedding in southwest Minnesota is the source of at least 70 coronavirus cases, state infectious disease director Kris Ehresmann said Wednesday.

The number has grown from 58 on Friday to 70 at last count, she said by email.

The wedding, reception and "dance" took place Aug. 22 at KB's Bar and Grill in the small town of Ghent, the regional health authority, Southwest Health and Human Services, said in a statement.

Wedding on Aug 22---> 70 cases (those reported) by date of this report---> Sept 9.

=19 days.

Wonder what numbers we are going to see for Sept 29..give or take.
 
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South Dakota governor Kristi Noem has dismissed a report that the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally last month was a Covid-19 “super-spreader” event, calling the study “grossly misleading.”

A 63-page report from the IZA Institute of Labor Economics published earlier this month that the rally led to an increase in cases in South Dakota and across the county, while generating associated “public health costs of approximately $12.2 billion.”

“This report isn’t science; it’s fiction,” Noem said in statement. “Under the guise of academic research, this report is nothing short of an attack on those who exercised their personal freedom to attend Sturgis.”

https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2020/sep/10/donald-trump-bob-woodward-coronavirus-covid-19-joe-biden-live-updates
 
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Minnesota wedding linked to 70 coronavirus cases, officials say
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A summer wedding in southwest Minnesota is the source of at least 70 coronavirus cases, state infectious disease director Kris Ehresmann said Wednesday.

The number has grown from 58 on Friday to 70 at last count, she said by email.

The wedding, reception and "dance" took place Aug. 22 at KB's Bar and Grill in the small town of Ghent, the regional health authority, Southwest Health and Human Services, said in a statement.

Those who avoid being tested "just make it worse" because they could unknowingly be infecting others, Ehresmann said. "None of us are an island," she said.

The state Health Department is unable to track secondary transmission affiliated with the wedding and other events, such as the Sturgis, South Dakota, motorcycle rally, which is the source of 51 cases in Minnesota, state officials said during their latest news conference Wednesday.

Why do we even bother with Tracking and Tracing, if no one cares....
 
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On the Texas border amid coronavirus, families are seeking medical care in Mexico

In mid-summer, Evelia Sáenz started a 25-mile journey that she hoped would save her husband's life: it was time to cross from the United States to Mexico. "I was quite scared, I'm not going to hide it," Sáenz said about her husband's delicate health situation.

Her husband had contracted COVID-19 and was having difficulty breathing, but the Texan family has little income and does not have health insurance. So the best bet was to look for medicine on the Mexican side, across the border from their home in Texas.

In the following weeks, Sáenz and her daughter also became infected; it was in Mexico where they were able to pay for a doctor's visit. The father, mother and daughter recovered, although they are still dealing with some lingering effects of the virus.
 
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Marseille's hospitals back on crisis footing as coronavirus spreads again in France

France has seen one of the sharpest accelerations in new coronavirus infections in Western Europe since mid-July.

With 95% of the southern Bouche du Rhone region's 80 intensive care beds set aside for COVID-19 patients now occupied, Professor Dominique Rossi has dusted off his peak-pandemic playbook to deal with a jump in patients at the epicentre of the coronavirus' resurgence in France.

The Bouche du Rhone registered a positivity rate - the rate at which tests show an infection - of 14.2% on Wednesday, more than double the national rate. Health officials say a rate below 5% demonstrates control over the spread of the virus.
 
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Seriously? I admit to getting tired of "experts" who prattle off opinions, without actual data to back up their so called "knowledge". This is not meant to downplay the risk. No offense meant to you, @Trino.

I read the article about Covid transmission, community spread in Wuhan, via A/C in a restaurant, which was backed with actual data. COVID-19 Outbreak Associated with Air Conditioning in Restaurant, Guangzhou, China, 2020

Not "opinion". Although, I don't see how this study, can be generalized to ALL restaurants. And that a blanket statement is made by an "expert" that "No one over age 50 should eat out.".

No one "needs" to eat out at a restaurant, granted, that is a "luxury". But it is something people like to do. I am just endlessly worn out on every single thing being a horrific health risk, for someone over age 50.

My husband and I went out to lunch a few weeks ago, and it was fun. We sat outside, on a patio, our server wore a mask, no one was within 20 feet of us. Finally, something "normal", in a time when almost nothing is "normal" any longer. I guess that this goes to, I am done living my life hidden in our house forever.

One thing to consider. Dr. Fauci never eats out.
Fauci is consistently rated as the country’s most trusted voice on the coronavirus <modsnip: political>
Dr. Fauci tells MarketWatch: I would not get on a plane or eat inside a restaurant
 
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COVID-19 test cubes, or pods, are coming to the Shore in time for flu season.

Canadian-based QuestCap, a publicly traded company, has invested in 165 8-by-8-foot cubes that will be placed at shopping centers across the United States.

The cubes will be staffed by three technicians that will administer the FDA and EAU approved serology or antibody test via a finger-prick blood sample, Shelburn said.

The sample will be examined digitally by a lab in California for the presence of COVID-19 antibodies. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, or CDC, antibodies most commonly become detectable one to three weeks after the onset of COVID-19 symptoms.

Test results will be the same day, Shelburn said. The cost is $59.

The cubes, which can cost $1,500 to as much as $35,000 to fabricate, are being built in Nevada by Xtreme Cubes Corp. and being delivered across the country via trucks.

The cubes have a capacity to do 15 tests per hour and will operate 10 hours a day, seven days per week.

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COVID-19 test cubes coming to three Jersey Shore malls
 
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One thing to consider. Dr. Fauci never eats out.
Fauci is consistently rated as the country’s most trusted voice on the coronavirus <modsnip: political>
Dr. Fauci tells MarketWatch: I would not get on a plane or eat inside a restaurant

"I don’t like to admit it, but I’m 79 years old," Fauci said. "I can’t think of a reason to go trans-Atlantic. Right now, I’m very sequestered. I’m on a coronavirus task force. I go to the White House almost every day.

Although Fauci admitted he won't be "going to restaurants right now," he recommended that if people are heading out for a bite, they should opt for outdoor seating instead.

"If you’re going to go to a restaurant, try as best as you can to have outdoor seating that is properly spaced between the tables," he said.

Fauci says he's avoiding planes, restaurants during coronavirus pandemic
 
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The Banquet Halls and bars are being blamed when it appears to be the beach gatherings and congregating at fault.

Is that the case in the UK, or are you referring to the situation in BC? Do you have a link?
 
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In my view, a bar sells alcohol and sometimes, pupus/snacks. Many bars are attached to restaurants in the U.S.

A nightclub has some kind of draw beyond alcohol, usually live entertainment or a D.J. There are few nightclubs left where I live. Men's clubs with strippers are a subcategory of nightclubs. We have a couple of those in my county.

Bars that sell only drinks are still a thing here in California, but they are rare. In L.A. County, we have the greatest number of nightclubs, but Orange County has a lot, also.
 
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South Dakota governor uses coronavirus relief funds for $5 million tourism ad despite COVID surge

South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem's administration announced that it is using federal coronavirus relief funds to pay for a $5 million tourism ad campaign aimed at drawing people to the state.

The move comes even as the state emerges as one of the nation's top hot spots for COVID-19 infections.

Noem spokesman Ian Fury defended using the federal coronavirus funds for the ads, saying that the state "should absolutely be promoting tourism" because it is vital to South Dakota's economy. After agriculture, it is the state's largest industry. "That's how people put food on the table," he said.

Fury said the line in the ad that touts the state as a "place to safely explore" fulfills Treasury's requirement for using the money to address the pandemic.

Absolutely unbelievable. And corrupt. No ethics whatsoever. I can't even think of an explanation (besides defiance) for this.

Perhaps SD should use the money to invest in strategies for employment that don't depend on tourism. Like healthcare and contact tracing.
 
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Absolutely unbelievable. And corrupt. No ethics whatsoever. I can't even think of an explanation (besides defiance) for this.

Perhaps SD should use the money to invest in strategies for employment that don't depend on tourism. Like healthcare and contact tracing.

Is what she's doing even legal?
 
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After months of fixing meals every day - dining at a restaurant with the parents and someone else cooking and cleaning - would be so nice. Maybe one day it will be safe for all of us.
 
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Found it!

B.C. to shut down nightclubs, banquet halls; limit late-night alcohol sales at bars - Victoria News

"As to what qualifies as a nightclub, she said it would be those establishments whose “sole purpose is entertainment and liquor service.”"

That sounds like a nightmare to enforce - seems like very definition of "arbitrary," as it is decided by a person, or persons, rather than statute. But, if it works for them...
No, it's not arbitrary. Nightclubs don't offer any form of food service. When have you ever gotten something to eat at a club? Also they play extremely loud music and are places where people (guests or strippers) dance. When have you ever sat and had a normal quiet conversation with someone in a nightclub?

Pubs/bars/restaurants all serve food, and at this time cannot offer live music, or any kind of dance floor. They must turn down the TV so that people can still talk to each other.

Banquet halls are a problem because they host weddings and other large parties where people don't want to social distance.

Too many people visiting nightclubs and banquet halls have been flouting the rules and outbreaks have been repeatedly traced back to them. Even if they try to implement the rules, drunk customers ignore them and the venue cannot control these people.

Video shows partiers breaking COVID-19 rules at Vancouver nightclub
Banquet halls in B.C. want the government to shut them down

ETA: all these venues must apply for licenses to serve liquor, the government can legitimately decide who does and who does not get a public liquor license to sell alcohol, and set conditions for how that venue will operate.
 
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No, it's not arbitrary. Nightclubs don't offer any form of food service. When have you ever gotten something to eat at a club? Also they play extremely loud music and are places where people (guests or strippers) dance. When have you ever sat and had a normal quiet conversation with someone in a nightclub?

Pubs/bars/restaurants all serve food, and at this time cannot offer live music, or any kind of dance floor. They must turn down the TV so that people can still talk to each other.

Banquet halls are a problem because they host weddings and other large parties where people don't want to social distance.

Too many people visiting nightclubs and banquet halls have been flouting the rules and outbreaks have been repeatedly traced back to them. Even if they try to implement the rules, drunk customers ignore them and the venue cannot control these people.

Video shows partiers breaking COVID-19 rules at Vancouver nightclub
Banquet halls in B.C. want the government to shut them down

ETA: all these venues must apply for licenses to serve liquor, the government can legitimately decide who does and who does not get a public liquor license to sell alcohol, and set conditions for how that venue will operate.
Perhaps a total ban on alcohol sales at all establishments would be the answer. Otherwise nightclubs could offer food and avoid some of the restrictions. JMO
 
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