Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #82

[Lilibet]

I can't believe he took his mask off around those photographers and then walked inside the White House with it off. (Fox News has footage) What the heck??!! What about his staff? The other people who work there?

His defiant maskless appearance when he returned to the White House is all going to be in a campaign video showing “strength” IMO.

 

[ZoriahNZ]

What is going on? He looks short of breath and in pain here:

https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1313254795172614144

(Jim Acosta is a WH correspondent for CNN)

 

[CharlestonGal]

I can't believe he took his mask off around those photographers and then walked inside the White House with it off. (Fox News has footage) What the heck??!! What about his staff? The other people who work there?

Well that's not good. That's how the White House got infected in the first place - failing to follow established guidelines.

So many of them now have it, it might be worth considering quarantining the entire WH and the staff for the next 14 days. Otherwise, they're just going to keep transmitting it to each other. And their families.

 

[mickey2942]

Kayleigh McEnany is a classic example. The incubation period is well established as generally being 1-14 days. In Australia a returned traveller must quarantine for 14 days. If tests were accurate on Day 1 and showed negative then there would be no need for this quarantine. But we make them quarantine for the entire 14 days because a positive test result might not show up until Day 10.

Kayleigh was a close contact of a positive case, yet used her negative test results to go about her business, potentially exposing others to the virus. Hence the “false sense of security” the tests appear to be giving those in the White House, IMO, despite these established protocols all around the world.

Here in Australia, close contacts of positive cases need to quarantine for 14 days. For this very reason.

Kayleigh McEnany infected with COVID-19

Exactly. If Kayleigh had been contacted by a "Contact Tracer", she would have been told that even with a negative Covid-19 test, she would still be under an order of quarantine for the full two weeks.

 

[Reasonable & Just]

Laurie, who tested positive Friday, has since quarantined and has experienced fatigue, aches, a fever and a loss of taste, which he described as a Romans 8:28 moment. The biblical Scripture verse states: “And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose.”

“I wish at a time like this we could not politicize something like this,” Laurie said in a video announcing his diagnosis. “It’s real.

I appreciate his message, and I hope he is getting good treatment and recovers quickly and fully.

Herman Cain probably would have been at the Rose Garden if he were alive. It was all too real and serious for him, and so you would hope his powerful friends would remember that.

 

[10ofRods]

Yeah. We royally screwed up. Then we learned from it, and tried to teach others. Can't lead horses to water, or make ostriches pick their heads up.

We also have lower death rates (in the US and obviously many other places) because of that learning. No one knew exactly what we were dealing with in February - March...

 

[Kikixxxx]

Did he just take his mask off?

Yes, cause he’s outside and stood on his own.

 

[Reasonable & Just]

Yes, cause he’s outside and stood on his own.

He is wincing a lot. I hope he is not in pain.

 

[ZoriahNZ]

He is close to two photographers and then entered the building with his mask off. There are staff waiting inside. He is contagious and should be wearing a mask at all times, especially when indoors.

 

[CharlestonGal]

What is going on? He looks short of breath and in pain here:

https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1313254795172614144

(Jim Acosta is a WH correspondent for CNN)

Oh, wow. He is really really short of breath. It looks like he's using accessory muscles to breath as well. Drawing breath through the mouth...

Hopefully, the oxygen is nearby. Poor guy. Being unable to catch your breath is an awful feeling. And scary.

 

[10ofRods]

Yes, cause he’s outside and stood on his own.

See the above comments - people are already interpreting it quite differently.

::Sigh::

If only he would wear a mask all the time while he's still in the contagious phase...

 

[CSIDreamer]

What is going on? He looks short of breath and in pain here:

https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1313254795172614144

(Jim Acosta is a WH correspondent for CNN)

Well, he is sick.

I'm 57. Frankly, when I walk up 2 flights of steps wearing a mask, I'm pretty much gasping and I'm not sick or overweight. Jmo

Note to self. Exercise more.

 

[ZoriahNZ]

When my son had the croup, it was really bad and he was gasping like this too. It's unmistakable. You can see the muscles over compensating when he sucks in air through his mouth.

 

[SouthAussie]

What is going on? He looks short of breath and in pain here:

https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1313254795172614144

(Jim Acosta is a WH correspondent for CNN)

He is still not a well man. They are showing close-ups on our morning TV of him very carefully making his way down the steps outside the hospital.

He is entering the statistically intial worst period of the virus infection now. I can't imagine that he feels good, or strong.

IMO

 

[Reasonable & Just]

See the above comments - people are already interpreting it quite differently.

::Sigh::

If only he would wear a mask all the time while he's still in the contagious phase...

Right. Not wearing a seatbelt isn't suddenly okay if you're all alone with the convertible top down...you can become a projectile and kill someone. Just for his own sake, I wonder if there are any opportunistic infections we need to worry about if his lungs are compromised.

 

[Lilibet]

Yes, cause he’s outside and stood on his own.

He went inside the White House without his mask, so no, it’s not because he’s outside and standing on his own.

 

[ZoriahNZ]

Which is why, in my opinion, it is madness that he's insisting on these photo ops and going back to the White House instead of resting up properly at Walter Reed.

It does not inspire confidence. Quite the opposite, as far as I am concerned.

 

[10ofRods]

Oh, wow. He is really really short of breath. It looks like he's using accessory muscles to breath as well. Drawing breath through the mouth...

Hopefully, the oxygen is nearby. Poor guy. Being unable to catch your breath is an awful feeling. And scary.

Yes, he's using accessory muscles, not surprising. But we know that he has oxygen available inside the White House and surely he'll be more comfortable there (unless he takes a turn for the worse).

I wonder what happens if a Covid patient who still has active virions gets a further viral load after coming off the anti-virals? There are no studies, since other patients aren't allowed to do this.

He is surely still virion-positive, as there are zero studies saying that any of his treatments can completely expunge CoVid - but it will gradually disappear from the body. Right now, due esp. to the regeneron, he's in the same situation as someone much younger with an active, healthy immune system. What no one knows is how long that lasts.

Me, personally, I believe (based on studies of monoclonal antibodies in other primates) that this immunity lasts for a while - months. Does it stimulate humoral immunity? I think it does - but we don't know if it's "as good" as the person's own unique response.

At any rate, he's a study of 1 person (no one else has ever had exactly this treatment, at least not in any published study).

 

[CSIDreamer]

He went inside the White House without his mask, so no, it’s not because he’s outside and standing on his own.

How far inside did he go without it? Which rooms did he go in?

 

[HongKongPhooey]

Which is why, in my opinion, it is madness that he's insisting on these photo ops and going back to the White House instead of resting up properly at Walter Reed.

It does not inspire confidence. Quite the opposite, as far as I am concerned.

I was just thinking, surely this is against his doctors' advice? He needs to rest!