Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #88

[MimosaMornings]

Even though the New York Times is usually behind a paywall, it's letting me read/see this article
There is a basic vaccine calculator within the article

Opinion | When Can I Get a Coronavirus Vaccine in America? - The New York Times
Opinion | Find Your Place in the Vaccine Line

This is a more in-depth calculator:
Vaccine Allocation Planner
Vaccine Allocation Planner

The visual of people in line put it in perspective, I kept scrolling and scrolling looking for my place in line. Second person from the end.

Wonder about family members who are caregivers?

 

[mickey2942]

I was watching a re-run of "Independence Day", with Will Smith. The whole world organized to fight aliens. We banded together, and brought them down! Yay!

Reality: We can't organize ourselves out of a paperbag right now. As for "banding together", families can't even agree on basic facts any longer. The situation with the virus has shown the worst of our society. We would obviously be completely doomed if we had to agree to a strategy to get rid of invading aliens. We can't even cooperate to get rid of a disease.

The vaccine is a wonderful plan. But I have doubts that it will be the "Hail Mary" we are hoping for. Already, I have heard so many who have doubts about the efficacy of the vaccine.

 

[astheworldfallsdown]

'We're asking people to do the right thing': Face coverings now mandatory for drivers and passengers in taxis

Ireland

FACE COVERINGS ARE now mandatory in all taxis, hackneys and limousines after a regulation signed by Health Minister Stephen Donnelly.

Under the new regulation signed today, drivers of taxis are entitled to refuse carriage to somebody not wearing a face covering, and are entitled to curtail a journey if a passenger removes their face covering enroute.

The driver of the taxi doesn’t have to wear one when the vehicle isn’t in use as a taxi, or when they’re alone in the vehicle. But they must wear one at all other times.

 

[SoCalDavidS]

Some frontline workers with Indiana University Health have created video diaries to describe what it is like to work in the ICU during the pandemic.

“I can describe the sound the zipper on a body bag makes,” said Brandie Kopsas-Kingsley, ICU nurse. “I know the feeling of my hand on a chest and the feeling of two minutes of CPR before the next pulse check.”

“I can describe with great detail the odd and very ugly of purple-ish grey you turn when your body is suffocating. So, for me, whereas I cannot understand the numbers, I can understand humans behind those numbers and that every single one of those was a life,” she said.

Indiana nurse: 'I can describe the sound a zipper on a body bag makes'

 

[dmac55]

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[dmac55]

Arizona legislature shuts down after Giuliani tests positive for coronavirus | TheHill.
Arizona legislature shuts down after Giuliani tests positive for coronavirus

 

[dmac55]

The current plan for where I am-
(I think it's a best case scenario if everything goes smoothly)

Arizona Department of Health Services Director Dr. Cara Christ outlined the first phase of distribution.

Phase 1A: frontline medical workers, long-term care patients, and staff.

Phase 1B: adults with high-risk medical conditions living in shelters, education and childcare providers, those with protective services, and essential workers.

Phase 1C: adults with underlying medical conditions, those 65 and older, and adults in congregate settings.

Dr. Christ hopes to have Phase 1A completed by the end of the year. She hopes to start Phase 1B, like vaccinating teachers, at the beginning of January.

She hopes in March or April we will be vaccinating the general population.

State gives update on Arizona’s vaccine distribution plan
State gives update on Arizona’s vaccine distribution plan

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Fauci is joining him today, it's live right now.

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@20 minutes in, Dr. Facui answers questions

When will peak be - Mid January

 

[SoCalDavidS]

Every American will be able to get a coronavirus vaccine by the second quarter of 2021, Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar said in an interview for "Axios on HBO."

Why it matters: As cases, hospitalizations and deaths keep climbing higher, a vaccine seems to be the only chance the U.S. will have to arrest this pandemic.

"My expectation is that next year we return to normalcy in our lives thanks to the incredible work of Operation Warp Speed and these vaccines, as well as the therapeutics," Azar told Axios' Mike Allen.

Reality check: A lot will have to go right in order to meet Azar's 2021 timeline, but it's not outside the realm of what experts see as realistic in a best-case scenario.

Azar: Every American should be able to get a coronavirus vaccine by mid-2021

Also, Everyone gets a Pony!!

You Get A Pony! And You Get A Pony. EVERYBODY GETS A PONY!

 

[dixiegirl1035]

(1:43) How is it possible a vaccine that under normal circumstances would take years to approve could be ready to roll out so quickly, and prove to be safe?
(3:30) What are the vaccines (Moderna, Pfizer/BioNTech) and how do they work?
(6:03) Side Effects and Safety
(6:35) Efficacy (How effective are they?)
(7:31) How long does the protection last?
(7:31) Does it protect against asymptomatic disease?
(7:31) Does it prevent people from spreading the virus to others?
(8:26) Do I still need vaccine if I had covid?
(8:39) Is the vaccine safe for me with my underlying medical condition?
(8:59) Why do the mRNA vaccines (Phizer and Moderna) require super cold temperatures?NOTE: This is a question I had.. due to fragility of mRNA AND the lipid (fat) that the mRNA is enclosed in.
(13:04) Who can get the vaccine? And When?
(16:44) What restrictions will need to remain in place and for how long?
(17:53) Are mutations going to affect the vaccination?

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[dmac55]

Fauci told CNN's John Berman on "New Day" Monday that he had worked with all of the other members of Biden's health team and praised them as "excellent choices."

Biden unveils health team that will lead pandemic response - CNNPolitics
Biden unveils health team that will lead pandemic response - CNNPolitics

 

[ilovewings]

(1:43) How is it possible a vaccine that under normal circumstances would take years to approve could be ready to roll out so quickly, and prove to be safe?
(3:30) What are the vaccines (Moderna, Pfizer/BioNTech) and how do they work?
(6:03) Side Effects and Safety
(6:35) Efficacy (How effective are they?)
(7:31) How long does the protection last?
(7:31) Does it protect against asymptomatic disease?
(7:31) Does it prevent people from spreading the virus to others?
(8:26) Do I still need vaccine if I had covid?
(8:39) Is the vaccine safe for me with my underlying medical condition?
(8:59) Why do the mRNA vaccines (Phizer and Moderna) require super cold temperatures?
(13:04) Who can get the vaccine? And When?
(16:44) What restrictions will need to remain in place and for how long?
(17:53) Are mutations going to affect the vaccination?

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Those are all great questions: I do wonder how they could develop a vaccine in 9 months when most vaccines have taken years to develop: it does give me pause.

 

[gngr~snap]

Those are all great questions: I do wonder how they could develop a vaccine in 9 months when most vaccines have taken years to develop: it does give me pause.

It was already partially developed from the SARS outbreak in 2002.
MOO
"After the 2002–2004 SARS outbreak, vaccines against SARS-CoV were developed preclinically and two were tested in phase I trials."

SARS-CoV-2 vaccines in development | Nature

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Those are all great questions: I do wonder how they could develop a vaccine in 9 months when most vaccines have taken years to develop: it does give me pause.

Just a few of the reasons....

1) Instead of doing step 1, then step 2, then step 3 etc. ... many of them overlapped/ran concurrently which is not done in a usual business model.
2) The US Government (and NGO's and WHO and other countries) invested billions of dollars to allow them to ramp up and do this, and also made solid orders for future doses. Those monies allowed them to do what needed to be done... and if the vaccines weren't effective and had to be trashed, the companies would not be losing the monies. Most companies usually do one small step.... take a bit of time etc. before moving to the next step, and allocate/level their resources that they have (Analagous of "how long does it take to build a home.... if you have enough money and resources and planning at it... a house can be built in 2 hours, 52 minutes, 29 seconds! Google YouTube World Record 2 Hour House - Exemplary Corporate Leadership)
3) Competitors and supply chain worked together for the goal.
4) They are allowing EUA at 2 months safety vs. usually longer as most all adverse effects happen within 6-8 weeks of inoculations (keep in mind, this is still a EUA... the "final" won't be given until the longer period)
5) Technology and science were prepped for such in 2020, it could not have been done in decades past.
6) It had universal buy in for worldwide goal, and lots of backers that had laid groundwork for vaccine development e.g. Bill Gates
7) A lot of work had been previously done on SARS (see above post!)
8) Leaders focused on it.... as with Kennedy and the moon shot

There are lots of others to add that others may come up with also.. All MOO

The knowledge and technology that comes out of this will be of the likes of much of the technology that came out of the goal of going to the moon MOO

 

[Lilibet]

Every American will be able to get a coronavirus vaccine by the second quarter of 2021, Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar said in an interview for "Axios on HBO."

Why it matters: As cases, hospitalizations and deaths keep climbing higher, a vaccine seems to be the only chance the U.S. will have to arrest this pandemic.

"My expectation is that next year we return to normalcy in our lives thanks to the incredible work of Operation Warp Speed and these vaccines, as well as the therapeutics," Azar told Axios' Mike Allen.

Reality check: A lot will have to go right in order to meet Azar's 2021 timeline, but it's not outside the realm of what experts see as realistic in a best-case scenario.

Azar: Every American should be able to get a coronavirus vaccine by mid-2021

Also, Everyone gets a Pony!!

You Get A Pony! And You Get A Pony. EVERYBODY GETS A PONY!

Sorry Alex, IMO you lost credibility with me with this statement:

• He also rejected the premise that the Trump administration's coronavirus response has been a debacle.
• "We've saved hundreds of thousands, if not millions of lives," he said, citing the administration's early actions, which have since largely been lifted as cases soared and deaths have continued to climb.
• The U.S. death count is now over 280,000. Azar: Every American should be able to get a coronavirus vaccine by mid-2021

 

[Colorado303]

You are so right: the Federal Government ( Democrats and Republicans have been appalling)---

Despite the politicizing of everything resulting in Congressional games and gridlock, I had faith the two parties would unite if faced with a true national crisis. Boy was I wrong. If faced w/an space alien invasion, one party would probably side with the aliens while citizens split between:
— supporting the aliens
— attacking the aliens
— dismissing the invasion as false news
— unaware there’s any alien issue at all

 

[dixiegirl1035]

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[acutename]

Thanks for posting this great info: I am way down the line even though I am in the elderly population

I think a lot of the judgment calls are probably controversial- I have seen some outlines in which older people were put in line with some regard to an age category. The NYT here says "younger people first- they transmit asymptomatically." There are also a lot of arguments about homeless persons and prisoners- if they are not vaccinated they can more easily transmit to the rest of the population and in the prisoners' case, to staff or to people who come in and are released pending a further disposition. I also think the whole "line" is a bad idea, because bringing lots of people together, even to be vaccinated, is a public gathering. People need short timed appointments, IMHO.

 

[ParkerParky]

I agree, yet we have miles-long lines for free groceries. Many people don't have cash for regular food, let alone restaurant food. These businesses rely on a small pool of wealthy customers who expect to be allowed to break the "rules" (hello CA politicians). These are symptoms of a deeper failure of the nation to respond to crisis by returning our tax dollars to us in ways that allow us to feed ourselves and support our communities. For example, I know the UK was offering discounts in August for people to support local restaurants. I don't know if that's still going on, but I thought it was a great idea.

I would venture to say they don't even own the cars they are using to line up for food. Very sad state of affairs.

 

[mickey2942]

The lame duck president, Congress, Senate, better get something together, soon. The current unemployment extension, last payment is 122620.

It would be impossibly tone deaf if those folks all go home for the holidays without any sort of new plan in place.