Coronavirus COVID-19 - Global Health Pandemic #89

[dixiegirl1035]

https://twitter.com/NYGovCuomo/status/1338508844792737801?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^tweet

Andrew Cuomo @NYGovCuomo·
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This is what heroes look like. Sandra Lindsay, an ICU Nurse at Long Island Jewish Medical Center in Queens, became the FIRST AMERICAN to get vaccinated in a non-trial setting. Thank you Sandra and thank you Dr. Michelle Chester. #NewYorkTough

Not sure if I'm allowed to post photo from link... photo at link.

ETA Youtube of it.

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[dixiegirl1035]

Today's WHO presser. Hasn't begun but feed is in queue. @margarita25

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[weepingangel]

First COVID Vaccine In U.S. Goes To NYC Critical Care Nurse - News & Guts Media

 

[mickey2942]

I'm still here. Still not posting a bunch but I read every single day. I looked back at my Amazon account to see when I ordered my "pandemic order"--my instinct was to order Mucinex, sugar free Gatorade, shelf-stable milk, water, cough syrups, aspirin, Advil, cat food and dog food (I got very very sick the beginning of January--all the symptoms of Covid, but I'll never know for sure-- and was still sick when I ordered so it was very medicine-centric). No toilet paper lol. I ordered on Feb 27th so that was the day that I fully realized we were in trouble in the US. Since then I had a good friend that I was trying to warn bring me to tears for not believing me and belittling me (friend has since apologized). My mom believed me all along. She was able to stock up on some things. All because of the smart people here at WS on these threads. I've learned so much.

My husband's brother's daughter is a nurse and she just got over Covid, as did her husband who is in LE and their school age son. It was rough for the husband, the others had mild symptoms. We haven't been exposed to them. Our family decided not to gather for TG or Christmas, thankfully.

I wonder where Henry is??? Hopefully she (? I think she's a she....) is ok.

Glad that you and your family are okay.

I admit to being a bit extreme in February and March. My husband thought I was a nut case. And our town was planning a huge St. Patrick's Day celebration, I wrote in comments on the paper how it was insanity for us to pretend that Covid was not going to come to our small town in Montana. I think someone paid attention to my "ranting", because they canceled the celebration.

Maybe it made a small difference.

 

[sds71]

New variant (mutation) of SARSCoV2 has been identified, believed to be causing faster spread, UK Health Secretary said. Its spread is growing faster than existing variant, w/ over 1,000 cases found, "predominantly in south of England".
UK has notified the @WHO
The new variant was officially identified for first time last week. Hancock told MPs there is currently "nothing to suggest" this variant is more likely to cause serious symptoms, adding that it is highly unlikely that it won't respond to a vaccine.

'New variant' of coronavirus identified in UK, health secretary says

 

[dixiegirl1035]

New variant (mutation) of SARSCoV2 has been identified, believed to be causing faster spread, UK Health Secretary said. Its spread is growing faster than existing variant, w/ over 1,000 cases found, "predominantly in south of England".
UK has notified the @WHO
The new variant was officially identified for first time last week. Hancock told MPs there is currently "nothing to suggest" this variant is more likely to cause serious symptoms, adding that it is highly unlikely that it won't respond to a vaccine.

'New variant' of coronavirus identified in UK, health secretary says

So far, so good that the mutations aren't affecting the spike protein yet. In the future, who knows.

In the early days we followed the mutations as they happened here at WS..it was so interesting to follow how each mutation was followed with clades to see where each mutation spread to (new word for me for 2020!) but then was sooooooo confusing to follow as we moved into April/May/June. @margarita25 , I don't even have the original link anymore on my bookmark, perhaps you do?

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Timely and interesting as to just 30 minutes above in posts we are speaking to changes/mutations in sites for targeting. JAMA (HIGHLY regarded Journal of the American Medical Association that does updates) right now LIVE they are talking about protein drift and potential down the line of vaccines needing adjustments as like flu does. Still appears that the spike protein, so far, has been stable and the mutations are elsewhere in the virus.

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[nightowl1975]

why do you not want it ?

Right now, there are MANY more who desperately want to be vaccinated than there are doses of vaccines. I am not one who desperately wants to be vaccinated right now. I imagine I will get it in the next few months, after many millions of people similar to myself have been vaccinated.

There is still so much we don’t know about this virus, but there is also much we cannot possibly know about the vaccine. For some, the benefit of getting the vaccine with things unknown far outweighs the risk they face if they contract covid. Thankfully, I do not have any risk factors whatsoever that would make it more likely for me to have a severe case of covid. There are quite literally tens of millions of people who cannot say the same.

For me, it came down to why would I take a vaccine right now that I have some reservations about when there are so many others who desperately want it and DO have significant risk factors that would make covid far more likely to seriously harm or kill them?

For my children, especially my daughters who haven’t had children yet, I would like to see some data on the potential impact for fertility, pregnancy, etc before they are vaccinated. For my two children who have had covid already, I would like to see data on a large number of people who have had covid and gone on to get the vaccine. I suspect I would wait to vaccinate them until their antibody titers indicated waning natural immunity.

Everyone has to decide for themselves and their families. If any one factor was different for myself or my children, I could easily see making a different choice. For now, I’m comfortable with my choice and so very thankful to HAVE a choice.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Help please in finding something I posted previously. There was a video or ?? I posted that showed that states that mask mandates had lower rates/deaths. It was a very good visual.

Does anyone recall where/what the source was?

TIA.

 

[astheworldfallsdown]

COVID-19: London and other parts of South East to move into Tier 3 restrictions on Wednesday

London and parts of Essex and Hertfordshire will move into the highest level of coronavirus restrictions on Wednesday.

The move will see thousands of bars, pubs, cafes and restaurants close in the capital and surrounding areas after Tuesday night, except for takeaway, delivery and click and collect services.

The Tier 3 measures, announced to MPs by Health Secretary Matt Hancock, will come into force at 00.01am on Wednesday.

 

[gngr~snap]

Right now, there are MANY more who desperately want to be vaccinated than there are doses of vaccines. I am not one who desperately wants to be vaccinated right now. I imagine I will get it in the next few months, after many millions of people similar to myself have been vaccinated.

There is still so much we don’t know about this virus, but there is also much we cannot possibly know about the vaccine. For some, the benefit of getting the vaccine with things unknown far outweighs the risk they face if they contract covid. Thankfully, I do not have any risk factors whatsoever that would make it more likely for me to have a severe case of covid. There are quite literally tens of millions of people who cannot say the same.

For me, it came down to why would I take a vaccine right now that I have some reservations about when there are so many others who desperately want it and DO have significant risk factors that would make covid far more likely to seriously harm or kill them?

For my children, especially my daughters who haven’t had children yet, I would like to see some data on the potential impact for fertility, pregnancy, etc before they are vaccinated. For my two children who have had covid already, I would like to see data on a large number of people who have had covid and gone on to get the vaccine. I suspect I would wait to vaccinate them until their antibody titers indicated waning natural immunity.

Everyone has to decide for themselves and their families. If any one factor was different for myself or my children, I could easily see making a different choice. For now, I’m comfortable with my choice and so very thankful to HAVE a choice.

My husband pointed this out to me in this months issue of AARP magazine. You might be interested.
MOO
Sanjay Gupta on COVID-19's Effect on The Brain

 

[anneg]

Just a few snippets from a very good reflection of 2020 ........

The magnifying glass: how Covid revealed the truth about the world

.... while the virus ended and upended so many lives, and spawned a whole new vocabulary – social distancing, furlough, herd immunity, R number, circuit breaker, bubble, unmute – it did not remake the global landscape so much as reveal what was already there, or what was taking shape, just below the surface.

Even as the virus forced billions to cover their faces, it ripped the mask from so many of our leaders.

This was a global picture, the virus widening the chasm between the richest and poorest. The wealthiest got even wealthier. For the billionaire class, 2020 was a banner year, their fortunes topping $10.2tn (£7.6tn) in the summer – a giant increase on the year before, according to data from the Swiss bank UBS.

And yet 2020 was also the year Britons used food banks in record numbers and the year when thousands of cars lined up in Dallas, Texas, queueing to get help at a “food distribution event”, with some 25,000 waiting in line on a single day.

Coronavirus was unforgiving like that, magnifying the blemishes on the skin of our society, showing up the deep lines that divide it. And given that it did that for regional, class, gender and age divisions, it was scarcely a surprise that it exposed racial inequality too.

The lens of coronavirus showed up a great deal that was already happening in our world, but it also magnified much about ourselves and the way we live.

Even so, the pandemic did allow us to learn again what we value most. Along with healthcare workers, scientists were the year’s heroes – a reminder that, when it comes to life and death, and despite Michael Gove’s notorious 2016 declaration, the country had not had enough of experts.

We learned who we are by what we missed.

The magnifying glass: how Covid revealed the truth about our world

Excellent article, thanks.

 

[nightowl1975]

My husband pointed this out to me in this months issue of AARP magazine. You might be interested.
MOO
Sanjay Gupta on COVID-19's Effect on The Brain

Fascinating, right? We see these effects in our covid patients. I have a staff member who was positive over the summer and still struggles with some minor word finding. There’s still so much we don’t know, both about the virus, and the vaccine. There is risk either way, no doubt.

I suspect for myself personally, I will feel comfortable getting vaccinated when it rolls out to the general public in 4-6 months. By that point, we will know far more about immediate effects of the vaccine. We won’t know anything about long term effects for the virus OR the vaccine for years to come. That’s just the unfortunate reality.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

The United States is about 10 minutes away from 300,000 deaths.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Can somebody give me the information as far as what I'm hearing right now. 2.9 Million doses are going out today and being distributed. Azar is saying that 17 million more doses will be delivered by the end of the year. Where are those 17 million more doses coming from? I'm watching a replay from The Today Show where he is being interviewed this morning.

He is claiming there will be 20 million people vaccinated by the end of this month.

Azar: " we are sending out 2.9 Million doses of vaccine and so that's really going to be up to our nation's governors ...in two and a half weeks we certainly hope so... we know we have the vaccine available to get to 20 million people by the end of December and then a total of 50 million by the end of January. "

The way he's saying it I think it's misleading.

 

[SouthAussie]

It would be my preference that the original plan for everyone in the White House to be vaccinated as soon as possible, still stand, for this reason:
I think it would go a long way to set an example that the vaccine is ok, and that it's a good thing to get it

I am guessing President Trump may think it's a display of generosity for he and his staff to let other people get those first doses

My view/thoughts

Edited to add the following because it's even better reasoning than my own:

"NBC News reported that the early access was needed to ensure that there's a continuity of government, vaccinating people in high-level roles who are responsible for keeping the government functioning in a crisis."

Trump slows plan for White House staffers to get Covid vaccine early.
Trump slows plan for White House staffers to get Covid vaccine early

While I agree with you (especially the setting a good example part), I think the staffers will have access to the magic elixir if things get too bad for them.

 

[SouthAussie]

Can somebody give me the information as far as what I'm hearing right now. 2.9 Million doses are going out today and being distributed. Azar is saying that 17 million more doses will be delivered by the end of the year. Where are those 17 million more doses coming from? I'm watching a replay from The Today Show where he is being interviewed this morning.

He is claiming there will be 20 million people vaccinated by the end of this month.

Azar: " we are sending out 2.9 Million doses of vaccine and so that's really going to be up to our nation's governors ...in two and a half weeks we certainly hope so... we know we have the vaccine available to get to 20 million people by the end of December and then a total of 50 million by the end of January. "

The way he's saying it I think it's misleading.

I am super-confused about that as well. I read it yesterday.
Will Moderna be ready soon and that is where the other doses are supposedly coming from?

Moderna Says First COVID Vaccine Shots Could Be Ready by December 21

 

[LadyL]

A long-term care resident in Quebec and a nursing home worker in Ontario received Canada's first COVID-19 vaccinations on Monday, kicking off the largest immunization campaign in the country's history.

First COVID-19 vaccinations administered in Canada, kicking off massive campaign

I'm actually excited about this vaccine. I'll be way down on the list to receive though.

 

[SouthAussie]

A long-term care resident in Quebec and a nursing home worker in Ontario received Canada's first COVID-19 vaccinations on Monday, kicking off the largest immunization campaign in the country's history.

First COVID-19 vaccinations administered in Canada, kicking off massive campaign

I'm actually excited about this vaccine. I'll be way down on the list to receive though.

Yes, I want the vaccine too. I found out yesterday that there is the strongest probability that it will be 'late next year' before I am eligible. (We are scheduled to start vaccinations in March.)

 

[nightowl1975]

Do we have any intel on what China is doing as far as vaccines?