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And more good news for those of us who got the Pfizer vaccine.

Source: The Jerusalem Post

The effectiveness of the Pfizer vaccine against the Delta variant is “weaker” than health officials hoped, Prime Minister Naftali Bennett said Friday, as 855 people tested positive for coronavirus and more countries were listed as places of high infection.

“We do not know exactly to what degree the vaccine helps, but it is significantly less,” Bennett said.

The prime minister held a meeting of top health officials and ministers to discuss the next steps for managing the virus in light of the numbers in Israel and what Bennett described as “the Delta mutation leaping forward around the world, including in vaccinated countries such as Britain, Israel and the US.”

He said that “Britain, in recent days, we have seen a jump in the number of children who are being hospitalized on a daily basis. This is a development that we are aware of; we are dealing with it rationally and responsibly.”

'Pfizer COVID vaccine significantly less effective against Delta variant'

sigh ... I'm never gonna be able to leave my house :(
 
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Which vaccine did he have?

Moderna. Same as @303gmf. So, maybe it was just a bad cold. I made it to work every day, but went home early 2 days.

That whole...don't go to work sick...doesn't work, there are so few people working now...
 
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Moderna. Same as @303gmf. So, maybe it was just a bad cold. I made it to work every day, but went home early 2 days.

That whole...don't go to work sick...doesn't work, there are so few people working now...


It is kind of weird, though, that your husband didn't catch it--seeing as you live in the same house.
 
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It is kind of weird, though, that your husband didn't catch it--seeing as you live in the same house.

Yeah. I sometimes joke with him that he is so old he has probably had everything.
 
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I have been fully vaccinated since April, Pfizer. Last month, I had a "Summer Cold", that I didn't even think about getting a Covid test for, after all, I am vaccinated.

My husband, who had Moderna, did not catch my "Summer Cold".

I was coughing, hacking, exhausted, diarrhea, sneezing, massive migraines. Lasted about 2 weeks. I wonder if it was a variant? I see a lot of people every day...

My venture of COVID like illness is too exhausting, but will try to document here. Cascade of events for sure.

Symptoms started Monday, July 5th night. Coughing/mucus/ throwing up (I throw up as I get grossed out by bringing up plegm) and generally feeling ill as heck. NOTE: I used to get at least once a year due to allergies in my yard kicking up, and these are cascading reactions that mirror COVID due to my COPD iykwim. I knew exactly what was happening.

I have new doc this year due to going with Kaiser.. so when I did a video visit on Thursday to get Augmentin and steroid pack (5,4,3,2,1 type package) with a random doc finally after 3 days in bed coughing/sick/100.2 temp/phlegm /headache etc...they wouldn't give me what I needed until I went in and got chest xrays and doc visit days later. They said they needed to check for COVID. I was grrrrr, I live alone and no exposures. So contacted them back and next day Friday and asked to do the COVID drive through (25 miles round trip while sick as a dog)... and asked if negative, would they THEN give me my steroids and Augmentin? They said yes, so Friday I get PCR (negative) and then that night finally got started Augmentin and Steroids. The Augmentin made me throw up and dry heave for 2 hours that night. So next day, got Odenesteron for throwing up. By then... this reaction had turned probably into pneumonia. Hell, I probably aspirated those days of throwing up.

Still sick... so this past Wednesday when dead tired and couldn't finish a sentence without stopping to catch my breath, called in and then I got albuteroll and a longer lasting puff steroid ($$$).

Still have rales and rattling 12 days later. This usually take a month to clear.

I'm telling you, it was scary as chit not being able to breathe. How do they even clear out mucus and phlegm when people are on ventilators if they cannot cough and bring it up and out? My oxygen saturation was REALLLLLLLLLLLLLY low one am upon wakening. I've now learned that horizontal and sleeping = lower levels. Also learned that when you wake up coughing, it's probably your body saying WAKE UP, your O2 levels are dangerously low!

Anyhoooooo...... no COVID, but my experience mirrored COVID MOO.

ETA: I started doing those breathing excercises that the guy on the Princess talked about.. at least why I remember he said.. pretended I had a spirometer! (If anyone has at their fingertips his explanation of what to do, please post, TIA)

ETA #2: Back on daily allergy pills, and guffenesin OTC also

@margarita25 , consider this an update for ya!
 
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Oh, completely forgot why I came into thread just now.. was to post today's Dr. Campbell focus on the US. (I saw folks talking about sinus/colds etc... so I went on a tangent about my current illness)

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I have been fully vaccinated since April, Pfizer. Last month, I had a "Summer Cold", that I didn't even think about getting a Covid test for, after all, I am vaccinated.

My husband, who had Moderna, did not catch my "Summer Cold".

I was coughing, hacking, exhausted, diarrhea, sneezing, massive migraines. Lasted about 2 weeks. I wonder if it was a variant? I see a lot of people every day...

Well. That is a heck of a summer cold. :(
 
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My venture of COVID like illness is too exhausting, but will try to document here. Cascade of events for sure.

Symptoms started Monday, July 5th night. Coughing/mucus/ throwing up (I throw up as I get grossed out by bringing up plegm) and generally feeling ill as heck. NOTE: I used to get at least once a year due to allergies in my yard kicking up, and these are cascading reactions that mirror COVID due to my COPD iykwim. I knew exactly what was happening.

I have new doc this year due to going with Kaiser.. so when I did a video visit on Thursday to get Augmentin and steroid pack (5,4,3,2,1 type package) with a random doc finally after 3 days in bed coughing/sick/100.2 temp/phlegm /headache etc...they wouldn't give me what I needed until I went in and got chest xrays and doc visit days later. They said they needed to check for COVID. I was grrrrr, I live alone and no exposures. So contacted them back and next day Friday and asked to do the COVID drive through (25 miles round trip while sick as a dog)... and asked if negative, would they THEN give me my steroids and Augmentin? They said yes, so Friday I get PCR (negative) and then that night finally got started Augmentin and Steroids. The Augmentin made me throw up and dry heave for 2 hours that night. So next day, got Odenesteron for throwing up. By then... this reaction had turned probably into pneumonia. Hell, I probably aspirated those days of throwing up.

Still sick... so this past Wednesday when dead tired and couldn't finish a sentence without stopping to catch my breath, called in and then I got albuteroll and a longer lasting puff steroid ($$$).

Still have rales and rattling 12 days later. This usually take a month to clear.

I'm telling you, it was scary as chit not being able to breathe. How do they even clear out mucus and phlegm when people are on ventilators if they cannot cough and bring it up and out? My oxygen saturation was REALLLLLLLLLLLLLY low one am upon wakening. I've now learned that horizontal and sleeping = lower levels. Also learned that when you wake up coughing, it's probably your body saying WAKE UP, your O2 levels are dangerously low!

Anyhoooooo...... no COVID, but my experience mirrored COVID MOO.

ETA: I started doing those breathing excercises that the guy on the Princess talked about.. at least why I remember he said.. pretended I had a spirometer! (If anyone has at their fingertips his explanation of what to do, please post, TIA)

ETA #2: Back on daily allergy pills, and guffenesin OTC also

@margarita25 , consider this an update for ya!
Ahh, so sorry you are sick, but good it's not Covid. Get well soon ((dixiegirl)). Big giant hugs to you.
 
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I get sinus infections and runny nose, so I recently went and got tested. My test was negative. But with symptoms of delta covid mimicking common cold, it would be hard to figure out if one has it or not.
 
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Moderna. Same as @303gmf. So, maybe it was just a bad cold. I made it to work every day, but went home early 2 days.

That whole...don't go to work sick...doesn't work, there are so few people working now...
I’d thought about getting tested but got antibiotics from family’s extra stash instead chalking it all up to infection, others I was around with Moderna vax didn’t catch from me?
Have returned to masking in stores
 
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I've been thinking the same thing. Now that virtually all places have lifted the mask mandates, I fear it will be hard to re-implement them.

I think the CDC acted too hastily in advising people to go maskless if they were vaccinated. Almost no one is wearing one, and I know they're not all vaccinated.
I agree 100%.

'Vaccine OR mask' isn't effective against Covid. Vaccine AND Mask is the way to go. Two weapons needed.

-Vaccinated + Mask = A+++, Kudos!
-Vaccinated + Maskless = Risks breakthrough infection and transmission to others.
-Unvaccinated + Mask = IMO, this group can make the biggest difference at this time. So get vaccinated ASAP. If can't for medical reasons, wear an effective mask and take good care of yourself.
-Unvaccinated + Maskless = F-, Shame on you for prolonging the pandamic.

IMO
 
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I agree 100%.

'Vaccine OR mask' isn't effective against Covid. Vaccine AND Mask is the way to go. Two weapons needed.

-Vaccinated + Mask = A+++, Kudos!
-Vaccinated + Maskless = Risks breakthrough infection and transmission to others.
-Unvaccinated + Mask = IMO, this group can make the biggest difference at this time. So get vaccinated ASAP. If can't for medical reasons, wear an effective mask and take good care of yourself.
-Unvaccinated + Maskless = F-, Shame on you for prolonging the pandamic.

IMO

The Unvaccinated + Mask is a very small group. Maybe 10-20% of the Unvaccinated total.
 
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I have been fully vaccinated since April, Pfizer. Last month, I had a "Summer Cold", that I didn't even think about getting a Covid test for, after all, I am vaccinated.

My husband, who had Moderna, did not catch my "Summer Cold".

I was coughing, hacking, exhausted, diarrhea, sneezing, massive migraines. Lasted about 2 weeks. I wonder if it was a variant? I see a lot of people every day...

I had very similar symptoms last March, after a co-worker returned from New York. At around the same time, my boss became ill with suspected Covid, and had to miss more than a week off work (first time in 30 years). I wonder now if I had a mild infection?
 
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I agree 100%.

'Vaccine OR mask' isn't effective against Covid. Vaccine AND Mask is the way to go. Two weapons needed.

-Vaccinated + Mask = A+++, Kudos!
-Vaccinated + Maskless = Risks breakthrough infection and transmission to others.
-Unvaccinated + Mask = IMO, this group can make the biggest difference at this time. So get vaccinated ASAP. If can't for medical reasons, wear an effective mask and take good care of yourself.
-Unvaccinated + Maskless = F-, Shame on you for prolonging the pandamic.

IMO

The Unvaccinated + Mask is a very small group. Maybe 10-20% of the Unvaccinated total.

I have just left my local Sam's Club, in an area where 40% of the population is vaccinated. I was one of fewer than 5 people who were masked in the entire store (200+ people).

I am of the opinion, from watching TWIV, that the Delta variant may be more "FIT" but not necessarily more "transmissible". Instead, I think that human behavior (less masking, less distancing, more mingling) is fueling transmission, particularly in the unvaccinated.

ETA Links:

Opinion | Human Behavior During the Pandemic Is More Important Than Any Covid Variant

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https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/27/opinion/covid-vaccine-variants.html

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=G2G2bWUAef0

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Lots of talk on morning TV here about the Olympics. The Aussie teams have arrived in the Olympic village.

They are saying that the Japanese are controlling the airport very well. You get covid tested as you get off the plane, everyone is masked, you sit and wait until your covid test result is back before you proceed any further. Then there are multiple other checkpoints as you make your way through the airport.

Despite these strict controls, one athlete (not sure where from) has tested positive later on in the Olympic village. That athlete has been quickly isolated somewhere else.

It is going to be interesting watching the developments, that's for sure. To see if Japan can somehow pull this off without it being a super spreader event.
 
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