Coronavirus Global Health Emergency, 2019-nCoV #2

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Animal lovers in virus-stricken Wuhan are breaking into homes to save pets
''As the novel coronavirus continues to dominate headlines, a group of forgotten victims is emerging — the family pets left behind.

Lao Mao, a 43-year-old man from the virus’s epicentre of Wuhan, scaled up rusty pipes to the third-floor balcony of an apartment to get inside the home of a middle-aged couple.

The couple had left their cats at home for a three-day vacation. When they were unable to return due to road closures, their cats suffered.

Mao found them hiding underneath a couch, nearly dead from starvation. He called their owners, who broke down in tears at the sight of their beloved pets.''

“My phone never stops ringing these days. I barely sleep,” he said. “My conservative estimate is that around 5,000 are still trapped, and they may die of starvation in the coming days.”

Reuters says animals have been on the receiving end of stigma during this disease outbreak, as some think house pets are causing a quicker spread of the virus.

But animal lovers in the country have taken to Weibo, China’s Twitter-like social media platform, to help save these animals using a hashtag that translates to “save the pets left behind in Wuhan,” Channel News Asia reports.


The post has received millions of views now, the publication reports, and people have been desperately looking for others still in Wuhan to help care for their pets.''
 
  • #502
Is anyone buying anything to potentially prepare other than hunting down masks that are impossible to find?

NO. Just the typical preparations of cottage life.
In January we do the big clean of the fridge/freezer and pantry, and check all the bb dates, so Feb we bulk buy again and restock.
If I were to strategize wrt to Pandemic,
I will buy my drug store products, a three month supply, so I will only need to go for renewed prescriptions.

(Shoppers Drug Mart, always spend to much time in there, like a time vortex?
And always lots of sick people in there, this time of year)
 
  • #503
New information for me at least- apparently there is a study out that speculates this CV is generally more inclined to affect Asians and males.

Single-cell RNA expression profiling of ACE2, the putative receptor of Wuhan 2019-nCov

From the article:

"In addition, the distribution of ACE2 is also more widespread in male donors than females: at least 5 different types of cells in male lung express this receptor, while only 2~4 types of cells in female lung express the receptor. This result is highly consistent with the epidemic investigation showing that most of the confirmed 2019-nCov infected patients were men (30 vs. 11, by Jan 2, 2020).

We also noticed that the only Asian donor (male) has a much higher ACE2-expressing cell ratio than white and African American donors (2.50% vs. 0.47% of all cells). This might explain the observation that the new Coronavirus pandemic and previous SARS-Cov pandemic are concentrated in the Asian area."
 
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DATE ---- Mainland ---- Outside Mainland China
2/2-------17,200----183
2/1Fri -- 14,300 ---- 173
1/31 ---- 11,200 ---- 153
1/30 ---- 9,700 ---- 118
1/29 ---- 7,700 ---- 105
1/28 ---- 6,000 ---- 87
1/27 ---- 4,400 ---- 64
1/26 ---- 2,700 ---- 57
1/25Fri -- 2,000 ---- 40
1/24 ---- 916 ---- 25

View attachment 229520 <--appears black, click on to view. e.d. I cut off today Feb3 as it's incorrect/intraday until tomorrow iykwim

Operations Dashboard for ArcGIS

Ty
 
  • #505
Animal lovers in virus-stricken Wuhan are breaking into homes to save pets
''As the novel coronavirus continues to dominate headlines, a group of forgotten victims is emerging — the family pets left behind.

Lao Mao, a 43-year-old man from the virus’s epicentre of Wuhan, scaled up rusty pipes to the third-floor balcony of an apartment to get inside the home of a middle-aged couple.

The couple had left their cats at home for a three-day vacation. When they were unable to return due to road closures, their cats suffered.

Mao found them hiding underneath a couch, nearly dead from starvation. He called their owners, who broke down in tears at the sight of their beloved pets.''

“My phone never stops ringing these days. I barely sleep,” he said. “My conservative estimate is that around 5,000 are still trapped, and they may die of starvation in the coming days.”

Reuters says animals have been on the receiving end of stigma during this disease outbreak, as some think house pets are causing a quicker spread of the virus.

But animal lovers in the country have taken to Weibo, China’s Twitter-like social media platform, to help save these animals using a hashtag that translates to “save the pets left behind in Wuhan,” Channel News Asia reports.


The post has received millions of views now, the publication reports, and people have been desperately looking for others still in Wuhan to help care for their pets.''

God Bless the people like Mr Cat and the youth that speak out.
Are we at Day 12 wrt to Wuhan Quarantine?
 
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FMI

Googled:

How many religious people in china
"National surveys conducted in the early 21st century estimated that some 80% of the population of China, which is more than a billion people, practise some kind of Chinese folk religion; 10–16% are Buddhists; 10% are Taoist; 2.53% are Christians; and 0.4% are Muslims."


How many people are cremated in china
"China cremates more people each year than any other country, reporting 4,534,000 cremations out of 9,348,453 deaths (a 48.50% rate) in 2008. The cremation rate was 45.6% for 2014 according to Chinese Ministry of Civil Affairs."

Chinese funeral rituals - Wikipedia

"Different rituals are carried out in different parts of China, and many contemporary Chinese people carry out funerals according to various religious faiths such as Buddhism or Christianity. However, in general, the funeral ceremony itself is carried out over seven days, and mourners wear funerary dress according to their relationship to the deceased.[2]"

Additionally (reposting):

"This could be a massive disaster": What happens if the coronavirus hits China’s internment camps?
The Wuhan virus could escalate the suffering of Muslims in the camps, where conditions have created a perfect breeding ground for infectious disease.
Jan 28, 2020

German report spells out China human rights abuses against Uighur Muslims | DW | 31.01.2020
 
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  • #508
New information for me at least- apparently there is a study out that speculates this CV is generally more inclined to affect Asians and males.

Single-cell RNA expression profiling of ACE2, the putative receptor of Wuhan 2019-nCov

From the article:

"In addition, the distribution of ACE2 is also more widespread in male donors than females: at least 5 different types of cells in male lung express this receptor, while only 2~4 types of cells in female lung express the receptor. This result is highly consistent with the epidemic investigation showing that most of the confirmed 2019-nCov infected patients were men (30 vs. 11, by Jan 2, 2020).

We also noticed that the only Asian donor (male) has a much higher ACE2-expressing cell ratio than white and African American donors (2.50% vs. 0.47% of all cells). This might explain the observation that the new Coronavirus pandemic and previous SARS-Cov pandemic are concentrated in the Asian area."

I noticed that in the death rate, and assumed it was because the first people affected were probably Asian men who worked at the wet market.

Well, then I am good to go. Not Asian or male.
 
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Not like we would expect China to be transparent anyhoo :rolleyes:
 
  • #511
Well, this is a WTF moment for sure.

Just got a call from a neighbor in my hood. Another neighbor, that is one I've met and befriended when they moved in last year that is from China (Chinese national that moved here) I've spoken with them a few times and visited with them in their home, and lives 5 houses away.

They are currently self isolating after traveling to Shanghai and Bejing and returning to the states on Jan 20.

Just three in the hood are in the know at this time about it... and his friends within the Chinese community outside of the hood have been bringing food and items to his front door during isolation. He and his wife (retired couple) are doing self isolation in their home.

And no, I just offered my assistance in shopping and bringing food etc to them, I did NOT ask all the questions that we have here, as when it's personal, you just don't do that iykwim. Focus isn't on getting info, it's on helping them.

How times shift focus when you know someone in RL affected.. like the other day when I broke down crying after meeting the asian gal who was buying all those 50+ masks in front of me at Lowes. I wonder..... was it the daughter/friend of this couple? Whoa!

This is effin unreal. Gawd, I hope I don't break down crying again and just focus on helping those that are going through this and being strong for them.

Just an FYI to share with this thread. They did not visit Wuhan, but are self isolating just in case after travelling to Bejing and Shanghai.

Don't know anything if they are being monitored by health officials... assume not as no known cases here....it's too close for me to ask... I"m not a journalist or a WSer for this ... I'm a neighbor iykwim.
 
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The new coronavirus "will be with us for at least some months to come", [UK] Health Secretary Matt Hancock has said.

Mr Hancock told the Commons that analysis from Public Health England of these two cases suggested the virus had not evolved in the last month.

He said that if the situation in the UK was to get "much more serious", there were 50 "highly specialist beds" available and a further 500 beds available for isolation.

The Department of Health said that as of 14:00 GMT on Monday a total of 324 people had tested negative from 326 tests in the UK.

Coronavirus 'will be here for some months'

I have to say the number of beds worries me. If that's what the UK has, it's a very good thing it didn't start here and develop the sort of numbers they have in Hubei.

I don't really understand what is the definition of pandemic. I would have thought it would mean far higher numbers than they currently have in China, let alone the few cases identified in other countries. I would have thought it meant something more like the Wuhan numbers in almost every city across continents? So I don't really understand this article...

Mayo Clinic doctor: Coronavirus is 'basically at a pandemic now' and should be treated as such

...saying that in some ways it's basically already at pandemic levels?

I am concerned at how long it is practical to have flights from China stopped. I am concerned that if there starts to be larger outbreaks in other nations that there's then a question of stopping flights to/from those countries, and what kind of numbers and situation on the ground make governments feel that decision is the best course of action.

Back to the UK isolation beds numbers, I am concerned that if a country like the UK has so few beds, and it's always overloaded at this time of year with extra patients with things like flu, and where are the beds if it took off like flu over here? Would there be enough respiratory support equipment to go around, enough ICU beds? This is why I said before that I think it's worth attempting containment and restricting spread as much, and for as long as possible, as I feel that even if the mortality rates are similar to seasonal flu, how do health services manage that, plus manage the panic that goes along with this particular virus?

But what happens if there's wild spread in a country like the US....do Canada and Japan, Europe, etc, stop flights to/from the USA? And I ask that question with the US as just an example, where any country might have spread that gets as bad as it currently is in China.
 
  • #513
On the weekend, Mr Morrison announced that travellers who had visited mainland China from Saturday, February 1, would be stopped from entering Australia unless they were citizens, permanent residents or their immediate family.

Mr Morrison said they were taking the drastic action on the advice of the Chief Medical Officer and other medical experts, to “substantially reduce the volume of travellers coming from mainland China”.

Australians are being advised not to travel anywhere in China, not just Hubei province.

“If you are currently in China, leave as soon as possible by commercial means,” the Smart Traveller website says.
https://www.news.com.au/travel/trav...s/news-story/bb695bf7eb65c9e594a8c2dd6efff673
 
  • #514
Good on you dixie. Nice of you to be neighbourly under the current situation.
 
  • #515
Well, this is a WTF moment for sure.

You are a good neighbour, as in the true sense "to help others".

Hard enough to be an immigrant, or visible minority
The stigmatism
when a specific "type" of human is associated with a disease outbreak.
I remember how demoralizing SARS was for TO.

It always is the simple acts of kindness, in life, that are the memories most cherished.
 
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Coronavirus 'will be here for some months'

I have to say the number of beds worries me. If that's what the UK has, it's a very good thing it didn't start here and develop the sort of numbers they have in Hubei.

I don't really understand what is the definition of pandemic. I would have thought it would mean far higher numbers than they currently have in China, let alone the few cases identified in other countries. I would have thought it meant something more like the Wuhan numbers in almost every city across continents? So I don't really understand this article...

Mayo Clinic doctor: Coronavirus is 'basically at a pandemic now' and should be treated as such

...saying that in some ways it's basically already at pandemic levels?

I am concerned at how long it is practical to have flights from China stopped. I am concerned that if there starts to be larger outbreaks in other nations that there's then a question of stopping flights to/from those countries, and what kind of numbers and situation on the ground make governments feel that decision is the best course of action.

Back to the UK isolation beds numbers, I am concerned that if a country like the UK has so few beds, and it's always overloaded at this time of year with extra patients with things like flu, and where are the beds if it took off like flu over here? Would there be enough respiratory support equipment to go around, enough ICU beds? This is why I said before that I think it's worth attempting containment and restricting spread as much, and for as long as possible, as I feel that even if the mortality rates are similar to seasonal flu, how do health services manage that, plus manage the panic that goes along with this particular virus?

But what happens if there's wild spread in a country like the US....do Canada and Japan, Europe, etc, stop flights to/from the USA? And I ask that question with the US as just an example, where any country might have spread that gets as bad as it currently is in China.

Great points. There is clearly no way the hospitals can handle it actually spreading in the UK in any measure like in China, right? I doubt they could anywhere. They work hospitals to keep beds full. They dont' just have tons of empty hospital beds and tons of extra equipment. Just like China can't handle it. The system is built around a running average, how does it handle a mass increase of something? If you are isolating everyone then you only need 500 sick. But if you have 500 sick then you already have masses of people exposed and sick and not yet diagnosed. How is this really supposed to play out? Just tell everyone to calm down, don't worry and downplay it till they can't anymore. That's what they did in China. Though they "detained" those who wouldn't calm down and talked about negatively on social media.
 
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CDC says it is still waiting on invitation from China to assist with coronavirus outbreak

The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) says it is poised to assist China with containing its coronavirus outbreak, but is still waiting on an official invitation.

Coronavirus news and live updates - CNN
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  • #520
Canada is waiting for China's approval before repatriating citizens

The Canadian government is still waiting on permission, as well as flight manifest and document approval, from the Chinese government in order to repatriate Canadians in Wuhan.

A charter plane is headed to Hanoi to wait for final approvals and Wuhan's airspace is closed, which is why special permission is needed for a plane to land there.

The number of Canadians seeking repatriation has only recently jumped from two people to hundreds.

Coronavirus news and live updates - CNN
 
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