Coronavirus Global Health Emergency, 2019-nCoV #2

[BetteDavisEyes]

Fashionable face masks: 'Trying to make something horrific seem appealing'

 

[Bravo]

I think those gloves would be excellent to wear out. Everyone will run from you. Might be considered a weapon tho

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

As New Coronavirus Spread, China’s Old Habits Delayed Fight

Coronavirus Live Updates: Death in Philippines Is First Outside China

Wuhan Coronavirus Looks Increasingly Like a Pandemic, Experts Say

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Nice! I'm glad to have found the Coronavirus thread! I'll be sure to follow for updates. Warning though: I'm a glass half full kind of person in this situation. I like to assume the worst in these situations and then be glad when inevitably nothing pans out. I read someone's description of being horrifically ill and totally picture myself going through the same. I have some of my own scary extenuating health problems and rare diagnosis though that are probably why I just assume I'll get sick and die and need to make sure my children are prepared for and taken care of. (I also over share)

Welcome to the thread. We've got lots of different viewpoints and opinions on this thread. Yep, some Henny Pennys too. (not to dis anyone, just to say many of us are scared/emotional). All are good. And be careful as to your emotional well being. I put on the thread that I just started bawling in the middle of the grocery store thinking about all this last week as I was emotionally overwhelmed. Please do the same here as you would do on a criminal page at WS... if you are getting too emotional, step away. (and as many here, watch puppies and the Superbowl tonight)

 

[Deleted member 158085]

Fashionable face masks: 'Trying to make something horrific seem appealing'

I ordered something like this with replaceable filters last week, although we already had the standard ones on hand.

 

[Amonet]

I should've been more clear. I think all the numbers from Hubei are suspect - including, and perhaps especially, the number of deaths. I think they are higher than what's been reported, with many early deaths not reported.

Not based in fact, just a hunch and with a big dose of suspicion about any numbers from that particular province.

jmo

It's the early ones I would be more concerned about. But given the relatively low numbers of infected at that time (even those not confirmed) I don't think it will make a huge difference to the overall mortality rate....maybe 20 extra deaths unaccounted for, assuming the mortality rates everywhere else are close to accurate for total cases. And there's a risk that over the next few months that might stop being the case.

ETA I found a better daily breakdown list on a link from the Johns Hopkins map portal page

It's a Google documents spreadsheet

Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Cases, provided by JHU CSSE

 

[beatrixpotter]

Welcome to the thread. We've got lots of different viewpoints and opinions on this thread. Yep, some Henny Pennys too. (not to dis anyone, just to say many of us are scared/emotional). All are good. And be careful as to your emotional well being. I put on the thread that I just started bawling in the middle of the grocery store thinking about all this last week as I was emotionally overwhelmed. Please do the same here as you would do on a criminal page at WS... if you are getting too emotional, step away. (and as many here, watch puppies and the Superbowl tonight)

Thank you for your thoughtfulness, dixiegirl. It's a good reminder. I know I'll need to take breaks. I made light of it all in my intro post but it's definitely a stressor for me. I guess I was kind of poking fun of myself. But it's not a topic I can just walk away from and ignore like so many do or even assume the best of. It's compounded with other stressors but this morning I walked out of church and sat in my car and cried because I'm overwhelmed. And I rarely cry. Dh picked me up some low carb ice cream just a few minutes ago.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Life inside the American coronavirus quarantine for a professional football player February 2, 2020, 2:53 PM

It's day five for 195 Americans inside the quarantine zone ...Jarred Evans may be stuck, but he's hardly taking it easy."No days off," ...The professional football player .....Evans is due to report to another pro team in Switzerland by Feb. 17. ... he measured the distance around the courtyard at the base hotel where the group is staying ...."I run around that multiple times until I reach, three, four miles," ... every morning and evening, he and his fellow Americans that evacuated from Wuhan last week head to a special room where medical staff checks them for symptoms of novel coronavirus and takes their temperature... Then it's breakfast time. The food, he says, is decent. "Today we got eggs, bacon and sausage," he said.Evans says he's been told that test results from nasal and bowel swabs taken when the evacuees arrived in California should be known Sunday or Monday, but blood tests may take longer. Regardless of the results, however, everyone will have to stay in quarantine for a full two weeks.

"Everyone is very accepting toward what is going on,"..."The CDC and State Department are doing a wonderful job of feeding us, keeping us busy, keeping the kids having fun with their parents. And you can't go wrong with this beautiful California weather." ....Evans says there are approximately 14 kids in the quarantine group, ranging in age from about 11 months to about 13 years. The shared, forced confinement means that people are beginning to forge new friendships...."We're all getting to know each other,There's so many different types of people from all over America." Some people have stopped wearing protective gear... "I'm still wearing my mask and gloves, because I want to make sure that I'm 100% clear of any kind of infection, But people are really relaxed. I haven't seen any kind of coughing, any people sick, or looking tired. Everyone is full of joy and energy.... he speaks to his mother and father three to four times a day... he asked authorities to ship two things to the base: his laptop, so he can help his father with the family's New York car service company, and some weight gain supplements.

On Sunday, he says he's looking forward to a Super Bowl party and barbecue."They have four 86-inch televisions in the courtyard outside. A couple of us guys have a bet going on," he laughs.

ETA, I'm surpised they don't culture through throat swabs every day as in the CDC presser the other day, they said tests are positive, go negative, then positive again. I would think they would want to "test" the diagnostic test for sensitivity and specificity for such while they are there. They may be doing, and he just didn't say? Also, if I was being evacuated, the first thing I would grab onto would be my laptop to bide my time reading WS!

ETA#2 Appears they are being treated better than the Casey Anthony/Pinellas jury

 

[jjenny]

Well, I am glad they didn't just let these 200 people go into regular population as the original plan seemed to have been.

 

[What if...]

Wondering how many people behind closed doors are ill or already deceased?
Thinking of those people who live alone and have limited contact with others, the elderly, the frail, the homeless, mentally ill ect.
Cannot even imagine the conditions for those in jail, do they even know about CV and if so, do they have access to water, masks ect?
Wondering if any prisoners have been approached to be guinea pigs (by choice or otherwise) for the purpose of drug/vaccine testing?
Not to be crude, but have sex workers closed shop, or have access to um... specially tailored face masks?
imo, speculation.

I hadn’t even considered the prison systems. What a nightmare ! I’m sure their response options would be extremely limited.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

A US national security adviser says 'there is no reason for Americans to panic' about coronavirus as report claims second US plane heads to China to evacuate more Americans from Wuhan

the plane, expected to be ready to take off for its return trip to the US on Monday, may not be the last plane sent to the city to evacuate Americans.

"I can't confirm the numbers yet, but this upcoming evacuation might not be the last," an unnamed official told CNN, adding there had been a high demand for the flights from US citizens still in Wuhan... The plane sent Sunday would be the second aircraft to retrieve US Citizens from the city in China's Hubei province amid the ongoing travel ban in Wuhan that has been in place since January 25.

 

[mickey2942]

It will be interesting to see what happens in the United States, if this really becomes a pandemic.

We have been told explicitly at work, no face masks. I wonder if that will change.

 

[Amonet]

Photos, and a timelapse video at the bottom, of the building of one of the new coronavirus hospitals in Wuhan

The coronavirus hospital built in days

 

[LadyL]

It will be interesting to see what happens in the United States, if this really becomes a pandemic.

We have been told explicitly at work, no face masks. I wonder if that will change.

wow I just don't think they should be able to tell you that
that could be a huge lawsuit if someone contracted it I think

 

[beatrixpotter]

It will be interesting to see what happens in the United States, if this really becomes a pandemic.

We have been told explicitly at work, no face masks. I wonder if that will change.

You've been told you can't wear them or aren't required to wear them? Just curious what you meant by being told "no face masks". Thanks!

 

[mickey2942]

You've been told you can't wear them or aren't required to wear them? Just curious what you meant by being told "no face masks". Thanks!

Can't. Unequivocally. But, that was last week. And the virus really hasn't been widespread, yet, in the United States.

Let's see what happens in the next four weeks. Hopefully, this is localized, and will end.

 

[Pi Thoughts]

China has detected an outbreak of bird flu near the epicentre of the deadly coronavirus.

The bird flu outbreak was reported Saturday in Hunan, which borders the province of Hubei where the coronavirus broke out in December.

“The outbreak occurred in a farm in the Shuangqing district of Shaoyang city,” officials from China’s Ministry of Agriculture said. “The farm has 7850 chickens, and 4500 of the chickens have died from the contagion.”

The fatal illness, known as H5N1 virus, causes “a highly infectious, severe respiratory disease in birds,” according to the World Health Organisation.

Bird flu is highly deadly to humans who contract it, with a mortality rate of 60 per cent in cases over the past 15 years.
China detects bird flu outbreak near Hunan

 

[margarita25]

Bravo, and others, I watched this last night. Jimmy Fallon had his own puppy superbowl last night. This was so heartwarming and fuzzy feel after being here with y'all all day iykwim. You will melllllllllllllllllllt watching!

( The Puppy Bowl: Longtime referee on all the 'ruffing' and 'invasive sniffing' you won't see at the Super Bowl )

Just getting in, OMG no one used the cart handle wipes at the grocery store where I was, people were sneezing and coughing all over the place

Has NYC come back yet?

:lookingitup;

ETA:

I think those gloves would be excellent to wear out. Everyone will run from you. Might be considered a weapon tho

Omg I have these gloves!!!! I bought a multipack that comes in this cute little bag!!!!!! They work great!! Feels like edward Scissorhamds! AND I wasn’t going to admit it, but since we are in here, I bought a face mask for gardening last year BECAUSE I about read about fungal meningitis you can get from soil! I wasn’t going to admit it but WTH. Anyway, it seems my facemasks are the “CURAD” kind and claim to protect against both bird and swine flu lol. Anyway I wore my mask once while gardening ahaha. Seems I have 9 left. Who knew they would be such a sought after item, sadly.

 

[dotr]

Health officials to give update at 7 p.m. on 2 possible coronavirus cases at Miami University
Updated: 02/02/20 05:03 pm EST

''Two students at Miami University in Butler County are under investigation as possibly having the coronavirus.

In an update on Sunday, the Ohio Department of Health said officials will hold an update on the potential cases at 7 p.m.

On Tuesday, the Butler County Health Department, north of Cincinnati, reported the cases. The two Miami students are being isolated at home and treated for their symptoms, which are said to be minor.

"They had traveled from China recently and come back to the United States," said Hurst. "One of them started to have symptoms yesterday morning, appropriately went to a health care provider who had concerns with the travel history and the symptoms, and then had the individual begin to isolate and then obtain the appropriate specimens."
''The press conference on the potential cases will be streamed live on 10TV.com and on 10TV's Facebook page.''

 

[MajorHoople]

"One of the coach drivers who was pictured without a protective suit or mask as he transported the Britons flown home from China has revealed that he wasn’t worried and was simply ‘doing his duty’.

Peter Badger, 54, said he did not tell his family before accepting the job of driving them to the Wirral on Friday because he and the other four drivers had been told the risk was ‘very, very low’.

And although their coach firm said the drivers had been advised to ‘self-isolate’ at home for two weeks as a precaution, they were seen mingling with the public in a hotel bar the next day."

'I wasn't worried!' says evacuee driver who was pictured without a protective suit or mask | Daily Mail Online