CT- Annie Le, missing from Yale, thread #2

[Knox]

Did anyone find out who the guy in the blue shirt getting into the cop car was?

 

[MomofBoys]

FBI Evidence Team has just arrived at landfill in a big way and are setting up camp.

Oh dear Lord. All my prayers.

 

[TravelingBug]

Oh gee. That changes things.
Are we back to Annie having disappeared into thin air?
It makes me wonder what compels LE to chase incinerated garbage to Hartford? What has LE discovered that might make them think that's the way to go?

Perhaps there were pieces of fabric/clothes that weren't complete or were ripped and they were looking for the rest of them? Or other partial evidence that made them decide the trash was the way to go?

You know, I was posting saying that I hoped they had checked for foot/shoe prints in the room where things were found in the ceiling tiles, but then realized that in many labs you have to wear shoe protector/booty things to prevent cross-contamination, etc. And even if the lab room Annie was working in didn't require them, they may well have been readily available in the building, which could make it even harder if the perp thought to use them

 

[TonyGatto]

The missing NYC cleaning woman back in July did not get much national attention still LE searched the landfill (in PA!) within 4 days..Why in this case did it take longer?

As it turned out she was not found there but back at the 26 story bldg in an air duct..Maybe the same scenario plays out here, maybe not, but the 2 cases are eerily similar.

The perp? (elevator operator) was questioned early on cos he left his shift early..I am not sure where it stands now but when taken in he cried & asked for an atty..I have a feeling it will be someone like this in her workplace vs a Prof or fellow student..I think LE may have the same mindset & I am confident they are checking out these employees..It is very possible the man (not in blue shirt!) seen taken away in the police car is one of them.

I had referenced this story a while back:
http://gothamist.com/2009/07/19/man_suspected_of_killing_cleaning_w.php

 

[Emma Peel]

Did anyone find out who the guy in the blue shirt getting into the cop car was?

He's been re-identified in same pix as the New Haven District Attny, I believe.

 

[Emma Peel]

FBI Evidence Team has just arrived at landfill in a big way and are setting up camp.

Puffster, are you getting this from TV or can you link the article? thx.

 

[salvarenga]

Did anyone find out who the guy in the blue shirt getting into the cop car was?

Are you talking about the older guy with grey/white hair? Kind of looked like Joseph Schlessinger to me.

 

[TonyGatto]

Puffster, are you getting this from TV or can you link the article? thx.

This is my own reporting (so if it's wrong...you know who to blame)

I have people with eyes on in Hartford -- saying that the FBI evidence team has driven vehicles onto the property and have begun unloading a lot of equipment.

 

[TonyGatto]

Are you talking about the older guy with grey/white hair? Kind of looked like Joseph Schlessinger to me.

It was the state's attorney -- but erroneously reported as a person of interest earlier.

 

[Knox]

Did the Anton Bennett reporting Annie missing/canceling the class timeline get resolved? No suspicions there?

 

[Labrat]

I found what I was looking for- In SeriouslySearching's #163 post, in the video link- the same one where the co-worker mentions 11:00AM, the reporter says that Annie worked in Sterling (lab/office) but went to 10 Amistad where "she keeps animals and does research"

I know someone previously asked if we knew she worked with animals.

 

[TonyGatto]

did the anton bennett reporting annie missing/canceling the class timeline get resolved? No suspicions there?

all we know is that he notified schlesinger of her not reporting to work. We have no information that he mentioned canceling of class in that communication.

 

[amysmom]

I had referenced this story a while back:
http://gothamist.com/2009/07/19/man_suspected_of_killing_cleaning_w.php

That probably is where I first saw it..TY!

Joseph Pabon was denied bail after his arraignment on second-degree murder charges yesterday. Pabon is accused of killing Eridania Rodriguez, a cleaning woman who worked at lower Manhattan office building 2 Rector Street, where Pabon was a freight elevator operator

It is good to know he was charged..The atty is spewing such BS! like they always do! :furious:

 

[panthera]

Oh gee. That changes things.
Are we back to Annie having disappeared into thin air?
It makes me wonder what compels LE to chase incinerated garbage to Hartford? What has LE discovered that might make them think that's the way to go?

Since the news about the clothing surfaced yesterday, I've been thinking it belonged to the perp with possibly Annie's blood on them. Maybe an outer shirt or lab coat that he was wearing and the blood might be spatter or castoff? I also think it's wise of LE to search the incinerators since she wasn't seen leaving the building and (presumably) her body would've been removed somehow. MOO only!

 

[Knox]

This is my own reporting (so if it's wrong...you know who to blame)

I have people with eyes on in Hartford -- saying that the FBI evidence team has driven vehicles onto the property and have begun unloading a lot of equipment.

So in my mind, the incinerator is used for medwaste/biohazards. Trash must be taken to the landfill for disposal. I know this is distasteful guys, but I am hoping that if she has been victimized, there is a chance her body will be found. We'll need that potential evidence to convict if that time comes.

 

[koozya]

I doubt the autoclave sets off the fire alarm that frequently. If it did the fire department would be going to the building all of the time and they would probably start fining the university to pay for each false alarm. The university would want the problem fixed quickly.

Sadly, I think the excess steam from the autoclave tells us something horrible. The fact they are searching the waste facility makes me think her body, after she was dead, was hidden as medical waste.

Our bodies are 62% water. A person who weights 90 pounds would be about 56 pounds of water. This is almost 7 gallons of water.

If a dead body was put in an autoclave, hidden in a biomedical waste bag, that would generate 7 extra gallons of water all turned into steam during the autoclave run - that is A LOT of extra steam coming out from inside the autoclave when the door (which is like a valve) was opened - much, much, much more than normal.

An autoclave run can take anywhere from 45 minutes to an hour, which in my mind would narrow down the of her death from between 10-12.

If this is true it again makes me feel like this horrible story is the result of a premeditated plan by someone involved in research - someone who knew Annie and someone who know how medical waste is treated.

Is there anyone who knew her who had a bad event in their life recently? Maybe a break-up in a relationship, a failed exam, etc...? Something that might trigger someone to snap and do something horrible?

I'm also very curious about that report we read where LE is reviewing tape from the Yale-New Haven Hospital from Tuesday (I can't find the link right now). Did Annie fight back and hurt her attacker? Did the extra steam from the autoclave burn the hands/arms of the person who opened the door? I want to know if anyone who was in the building that day went to the hospital later that night.

 

[Emma Peel]

uh oh. talk about a lab culture.

interesting fodder. please do read entire wiki article. this is only one small part of an giant career in science, research, patents and pharmaceurtical corporate warfare.

http://www.ivygateblog.com/2006/12/...cancer-drugs-how-he-treats-women-not-so-much/

http://74.125.93.132/search?q=cache...ph+Schlessinger+Yale&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us


Joseph Schlessinger was born March 26, 1945, in the village of Topusko, now in Croatia, when it was occupied by Nazi Germany. The family moved to Israel in 1948. [20]. Schlesinger served his compulsory military service with the Golani infantry brigade and was commissioned an officer. As part of his reserve duty he participated in the Six Day War and the Yom Kippur War.

Schlessinger is married to Irit Lax, an Associate Professor in the Pharmacology Department at Yale. She was previously an Assistant Professor in the Pharmacology Department at NYU Medical Center. The focus of her research is on the fibroblast growth factor (FGF) receptor. Lax has been working together with Joseph Schlessinger since she was a graduate student in Israel in the early 1980s. They each have two children from a previous marriage.[20] In 2006, a sexual harassment lawsuit was initiated against Yale University by Joseph Schlessinger's former secretary, Mary Beth Garceau. Garceau alleged numerous episodes of harassment by Joseph Schlessinger during her employment at Yale, [21],[22],[23],[24]. and claimed that Yale University failed to act upon her frequent complaints, thus causing Garceau to resign. The case was settled out of court in mid-2007, and the terms of the settlement were not publicly disclosed.

 

[panthera]

I have an article from the Yale Daily News that says the Yale Police Department declared her missing on Wednesday. It doesn't say when they were originally called.

I've been reading all these linked articles and it seems her office and lab were in Sterling and 10 Amistad is where "she sometimes went to conduct experiments"

I wish I could find out where the animal rooms are at Yale. I am wondering about the basement of Amistad where the bloody clothes were found.

Here's the thing- if I disappeared from work, they could find my last swipe in, pull the security tapes and see just what was going on in the animal facility at the time I disappeared. They would certainly see if someone followed me into a room. I wonder if it is the same at Yale, and if it is, are they much further along in the investigation than is being reported?

This is what I'm thinking too. If Annie was last seen entering the building, then the perp should also have been on camera. If there are key cards to swipe for various doors inside the building, then who used one either before or after Annie? And, was anyone seen leaving in different clothing than they wore into the building? MOO

 

[KaylynnCouture]

A large FBI Evidence Response Team truck and agents arrived at the Connecticut Resources Recovery Authority facility near Brainard Airport Sunday afternoon.

FBI sources confirmed to News Channel 8 the activity is related to Le, who disappeared from a Yale laboratory in New Haven this past Tuesday.

FBI agent Bill Reiner told the Associated Press officials are "following the trash" that left the laboratory at 10 Amistad St. He declined to comment further, the AP reported.

A News Channel 8 photographer on the scene reports that a piece of equipment is extracting trash, and people are using rakes to separate the pieces. State police dogs are also sniffing the sorted trash.

http://www.wtnh.com/dpp/news/hartfo...arch_at_hartford_trash_facility_2009091301118
Link also has pictures of the FBI Evidence van arriving.

 

[TonyGatto]

uh oh. talk about a lab culture.

interesting fodder. please do read entire wiki article. this is only one small part of an giant career in science, research, patents and pharmaceurtical corporate warfare.

http://www.ivygateblog.com/2006/12/...cancer-drugs-how-he-treats-women-not-so-much/

http://74.125.93.132/search?q=cache...ph+Schlessinger+Yale&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us


Joseph Schlessinger was born March 26, 1945, in the village of Topusko, now in Croatia, when it was occupied by Nazi Germany. The family moved to Israel in 1948. [20]. Schlesinger served his compulsory military service with the Golani infantry brigade and was commissioned an officer. As part of his reserve duty he participated in the Six Day War and the Yom Kippur War.

Schlessinger is married to Irit Lax, an Associate Professor in the Pharmacology Department at Yale. She was previously an Assistant Professor in the Pharmacology Department at NYU Medical Center. The focus of her research is on the fibroblast growth factor (FGF) receptor. Lax has been working together with Joseph Schlessinger since she was a graduate student in Israel in the early 1980s. They each have two children from a previous marriage.[20] In 2006, a sexual harassment lawsuit was initiated against Yale University by Joseph Schlessinger's former secretary, Mary Beth Garceau. Garceau alleged numerous episodes of harassment by Joseph Schlessinger during her employment at Yale, [21],[22],[23],[24]. and claimed that Yale University failed to act upon her frequent complaints, thus causing Garceau to resign. The case was settled out of court in mid-2007, and the terms of the settlement were not publicly disclosed.

Joseph Schlessinger, made repeated lewd observations and suggestions to her, from telling jokes about penis size to showing her hard-core .

http://www.yaledailynews.com/news/university-news/2006/12/01/univ-faces-harassment-lawsuit/