GUILTY CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, deceased/not found, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #67

[Megnut]

I do wonder if the Jury is perhaps exploring the issue of lying and deception?

Perhaps they are also exploring credibility?

If MT lied and did so repeatedly and Petu made claims that 'we share the same morals' then perhaps they see the Petu testimony as simply not credible?

Tough to know what jury is debating here.

The issue is that if your best friend had information to prove you were innocent and YET never presents it to LE even when on the stand, it just seems not credible and perhaps this is what jury is debating?

MOO

Or perhaps, since she was the defense's only real witness, they wanted to give it a fair hear.

I predict a verdict post haste.

Guilty on all counts.

 

[afitzy]

This could easily be about the custody report. Ugh.

Possible, I'd wished for a special jury instruction on it to make clear it wasn't part of the evidence.

Sadly Judge R didn't deliver on this point.

On this point I put it back on Judge R as imo he let this trial turn into a game of "Gutter Ball" based on a report that couldn't be entered into evidence and which was sealed.

I have no idea where the Jury is going but this issue of the report has bothered me from the day long ago when Judge Blawie, stupidly imo, gave this report to Horn and didn't take it away from CSP.

MOO (and extremely angry)

 

[Curious-A]

Yes, and it’s my opinion that she was either told to do this, to get it before the jury, or she’s been watching the trial, and decided on her own that it wasn’t fair that the prosecution could stop Michi’s defenders from saying their piece. It is at least, intentional on her part-and obnoxious, too.

Petu definitely knows what questions are coming. She kept nodding and starts answering before defense even finishes the question hmmm… And yeah where is this bombshell magical exonerating information. Wouldn’t she share it with the defense at the very least?? Also, whoever mentioned that Petu absolutely wanted to get the story (“straight”) from MT before saying anything to LE

 

[Love Never Fails]

Petu says 6/1 she spoke to MT and invited her over, and MT, Nicole, Marisella, and FOTIS all showed up. Fotis seemed worried. She then continues to say she never spoke to Fotis again after 5/24/19, "No, I never have."

Did I understand that right? Petu says she never saw Fotis after 5/24/19? But then says he was at her home on 6/1/19 with MT and others? Why did she lie?

 

[afitzy]

Or perhaps, since she was the defense's only real witness, they wanted to give it a fair hear.

I predict a verdict post haste.

Guilty on all counts.

Certainly possible.

Evaluating credibility as the Judge said is part of the process.

Petu did blow it imo when she said she and MT, "...share the same morals....".

Birds of a feather flock together and all that and perhaps the jury just needed to confirm earlier gut feelings on the topic of credibility.

MOO

 

[afitzy]

Did I understand that right? Petu says she never saw Fotis after 5/24/19? But then says he was at her home on 6/1/19 with MT and others? Why did she lie?

Yes.

 

[Alkali13]

Fires, inconsistencies, and hindering are all I heard from Petu. I think a previous poster was correct that MT used Petu as part of her alibi. Hutch, Petu, and Marty the Stop & Shop robot.

 

[Eli9]

These are the little details we need!!! anything else stick out to anyone 2nd time around?

That she's never heard MT swear in English
That she specifically placed M.Rose and PG at Greek Easter. IDK why but this is bugging me.
That her fire descriptions were all over the place. First said not dependent on season more on weather. Then the fires became more relaxing and social and not for heat. Then it was of course all seasons.
The text messages. MT likely had her print those out and keep for this testimony.
That she said she did not refuse to be interviewed.

And lastly that she responded to Kimball by (paraphrasing) either you are incompetent or you don't want to hear the other side of the story..that you are standing and looking into the eyes of..exactly at the time a woman disappears.

 

[afitzy]

Petu definitely knows what questions are coming. She kept nodding and starts answering before defense even finishes the question hmmm… And yeah where is this bombshell magical exonerating information. Wouldn’t she share it with the defense at the very least?? Also, whoever mentioned that Petu absolutely wanted to get the story (“straight”) from MT before saying anything to LE

To me, the telling point on Petu (amongst many others) was her standing on the steps in front of the Press and saying,
"I've waited 5 years for this".....

What did this even mean when she did nothing to help her friend?

Colour me quite puzzled....

MOO

 

[Megnut]

Does anyone know why jury can’t just listen/watch the testimony in the jury room?

I think the Judge wants to be available to answer any questions. If the process of evidence review isn't overseen, it could become chaos in the jury room. Just a guess.

My guess: to replay any testimony, I think there's a rule that they have to replay/listen-to all of it. This assures that that.

JMO

 

[Pitsleuth]

Moderators- can we get a "verdict watch" added to the thread pretty please?

 

[Curious-A]

I'm sorry but the notion that someone would set not one, but several, fires in different fireplaces during daylight hours in late May is ridiculous. I really hope that is not why they needed her testimony played back.
MOO

Yes, having a fire in late May aside. Petu claims MT would light fires when people were over for atmosphere like a cozy ambiance to drink wine etc… but multiple fires in the middle of day by herself in the context of all of her other dirty deeds very suspicious and out of the ordinary

Also I wonder what kind of fireplace was in the house? Prob not the kind you have light with a match and some kindling. That takes a bit of time for wood to catch and get going imo

 

[BUF]

Could you point me in the right direction to find the clock? I have been all over their website and can't find it anywhere. lol

If you go to “watch live” it is on the bottom right corner.

It’s not up right now as the jurors are on lunch break.

 

[Catz]

Petu was the defenses last ditch effort. I just dont see how her testimony helps.

 

[Megnut]

Petu was the defenses last ditch effort. I just dont see how her testimony helps.

Perhaps the jury had the same question.

 

[lucegirl]

The State’s timeline is seamless.

Petu says she saw MT in the morning of the 24th (after the alibi call and before FD comes home). This is MT’s “down time” on the murder day. So it behooves MT to engage in business as usual activities because she has to fill in her script with innocent activity. FD not back with the blood, so it’s possibly easier for MT to act and appear “she has no idea” when she meets Petu and/or because MT is acting normal because she is in cover up mode.

Petu testifies to 4 texts or calls from the airport - can’t corroborate without MT’s phone. No idea about length. Seems fleeting - 4 text exchanges can be 1 minute in total. Why didn’t the D offer Petu’s phone records if they were helpful?

I just don’t see how Petu’s testimony about the 24th conflicts with anything on the known timeline. Petu wouldn’t be looking for suspicious behavior on the 24th, so her memory of that day would register as normal.

It could be one juror who wanted to see it - from which we can’t assume all the jurors wanted to see it.

Wild card issues:

Fires - Petu herself said fires were for relaxing which the State shot down as being not possible because they happened during brief turn around trips between JC and MS. Anything but relaxing. And I cannot imagine any juror given the context of that day thinks the fires were a coincidence.

Language - I can’t imagine this Jury needs Petu to make an assessment about MT’s fluency after listening to the interview tapes. Also the D did not show any examples of where a language problem may have been confusion versus straight up lying.

Moving to Colorado seems like noise.

Police bias - maybe but it’s not enough to erase the facts in evidence.

MT is “upset” about Jennifer being missing? Just doesn’t seem weighty enough considering everything else in evidence.

Ugh!

 

[Curious-A]

Yes, and it’s my opinion that she was either told to do this, to get it before the jury, or she’s been watching the trial, and decided on her own that it wasn’t fair that the prosecution could stop Michi’s defenders from saying their piece. It is at least, intentional on her part-and obnoxious, too

My guess: to replay any testimony, I think there's a rule that they have to replay/listen-to all of if. This assures that that.

JMO

My guess: to replay any testimony, I think there's a rule that they have to replay/listen-to all of if. This assures that that.

JMO

Ok thank you! So court does not want pieces or parts of the testimony to be heard/watched out of context

 

[afitzy]

That she's never heard MT swear in English
That she specifically placed M.Rose and PG at Greek Easter. IDK why but this is bugging me.
That her fire descriptions were all over the place. First said not dependent on season more on weather. Then the fires became more relaxing and social and not for heat. Then it was of course all seasons.
The text messages. MT likely had her print those out and keep for this testimony.
That she said she did not refuse to be interviewed.

And lastly that she responded to Kimball by (paraphrasing) either you are incompetent or you don't want to hear the other side of the story..that you are standing and looking into the eyes of..exactly at the time a woman disappears.

The Atty Mike Rose presence imo is the total tip off that even though he had been 'excused from Family Court" for his helping FD file the fake financial reports that enraged Judge Heller and also was involved with the discredited report making its way to FD, that he was still part of FD circle. Atty Mike Rose also is a 'good friend' of Horn and worked with him to leak other confidential info on JF to the Stamford Advocate that I posted about many threads ago.

No mystery to me why we saw Atty Mike Rose on the stand simply rehashing the Defence narrative and talking about 'light at the end of the tunnel' etc. which had no basis in reality based on the Family Court file and Judge Hellers recent rulings on custody and visitation.

FD had a collection of corrupt attorneys surrounding him since he started FORE and imo Atty Mike Rose is simply one new one in a long line.

To see attorneys (both Rose and Meehan imo) testify falsely imo simply brings this entire trial to the gutter which imo is precisely where the Troconis Crew and MT wanted to place it always. They found another imo unscrupulous attorney in Jon Schoenhorn to deliver their message via using their tactics and there were able to do so because FD and told them and shown them that is CT its 'OK' to lie under oath and its "OK" to lie in Civil Court and Family court as there will be no consequences.

Entire situation is tragically laughable and I hope this crew of corrupt imo individuals doesn't fool this jury.

Hate to say it but the Troconis family and MT brought none of the good from the culture of Venezuela when they fled to the US, imo they simply brought the bad and long history of corruption of the rule of law and this quite frankly disgusts me particularly as we saw the depths to which Mama Troconis twisted the US legal system in protecting herself in her Federal Case for Medicaid/Medicare fraud (she set her practice office up as a law firm which is a well known narco trafficking tactic to protect information and 'inventory').

Horrific imo if their version of 'gutter ball' rules the day in this tragic trial as I simply don't find Petu credible in the least.

MOO (and furious)

 

[sleuth66]

MOO.
I am concerned that the jury wants to replay Petu because MT was “talking to Petu” while the Albany trash dumping was happening and that’s MT excuse she “didn’t know what was in those bags” etc.
Petu goes on about being at the gate at the airport talking to MT on the phone…

I’m not as optimistic as some of you.

 

[Gardenista]

MOO.
I am concerned that the jury wants to replay Petu because MT was “talking to Petu” while the Albany trash dumping was happening and that’s MT excuse she “didn’t know what was in those bags” etc.
Petu goes on about being at the gate at the airport talking to MT on the phone…

I’m not as optimistic as some of you.

The jurors can look at the phone report to see that's a lie