Silver Alert CT- Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 #10 *ARRESTS*

[MemPat]

IMO I truly believe that FD acted alone. Possibly thinking that if he could get off on this horrible crime that he, his children, MT and her daughter could finally be “one big happy family”. If I were in MT’s position as they drove through Hartford dropping off potential evidence I would NOT ask questions for fear of his reaction. MT is a bright woman and probably surmised what had happened and may have been terrified.
If both FD and MT were implicated in this crime IMO he may have thought they would have no chance to be together. Because being the brazen psychopath FD is, he surely thinks he will get off.

One might forgive MT for not asking questions except for the fact that word was out by that evening that Jennifer was missing.

If your boyfriend had spent the evening of his reviled wife's disappearance dropping garbage bags in random cans (bags that smelled so much like death you had to hang out the window), wouldn't you scoot yourself on down to the police station as soon as you were free of him?

Sorry, I'm not buying any "clueless MT" scenarios.

 

[indicolite22]

While we don’t yet know what LE has found at MIRA if JDs remains were dismembered and in those bags shown on C4 video (some of which were recovered by LE—the vast majority were not, as LE only learned of the trashbin odyssey of stupidity on May 31st though the actual dump took place on May 24th) I have to wonder if perhaps what was found may have been bone fragments.

(Sorry for any insensitivity here: my father was a Pathologist for 30 years before he passed away and I have witnessed many autopsies so I may be less squeamish and sentimental than most about remains).

If bone fragments were found or perhaps teeth or tooth fragments it would take longer to test for a positive ID. They were able to test items with blood on them found in the bags recovered on Albany at the DESPP lab and received results positive for JD on the same day they were submitted (6/1/19).

The more I read about the intensive search at MIRA the more I believe that LE believes that JDs remains did go through there and were in the bags that were dumped on Albany in Hartford. They have been there for three weeks combining through piles of shredded trash with people and canines.

Unfortunately, because they learned of the trashbin odyssey of stupidity a week after it occurred the content of the bags not recovered by LE were shredded and incinerated at MIRA before LE arrived. This is all MOO but it think apart from searches early on at Fore Group, LLC properties and Pound Ridge, the searching of the two ponds were based on “tips.”

We know that the search at MIRA will be wrapping up and most of the man power has been searching there. It may free them up to make additional searches of the addresses of importance but JMO as always I think LE believes JD’s remains were in those trash bags.

If JD's body was in the trash bags they dumped, then (IMO) dismemberment took place at one of FD's properties. Did MT know about it? Did she tell LE about it?

I'm not sure about the content of the bags myself. Thirty (bags or stops) seems an awful lot for just cleaning supplies and some clothing though.

The police said that they knew what they were looking for at the trash facility. Does that mean that they got information that a certain piece of evidence was in the bags? Did MT provide that information? I'm still undecided if MT divulged anything to LE so far that would incriminate FD.

 

[MemPat]

From the “Gone Girl” article:
“Pattis has not seen the state's security footage but says he finds it puzzling that the "high-resolution cameras," able to spot traces of blood on the bags being disposed, were unable to positively identify Dulos or his truck, which authorities have said match the make and model despite a license plate number not being visible on camera.”

I guess tv shows are fake then. When they’re able to zoom in the pixelated videos and enhance it automatically.

And here we have confirmation those cameras did not catch his license plate even though the sun was still out. If the cameras did catch the license plate , then we would be able to confirm or cross off the list that he used the altered plates or not on their odyssey of stupidity.

What seems to happen on the TV shows is that LE keeps looking for video showing the vehicle from other angles until they get a head-on shot which they then enhance.

Hartford being so covered with cameras, it makes sense that LE has many more shots of FD's vehicle, probably tons they haven't revealed. Pattis, of course, wouldn't mention those even if he knew. He's just muddying the waters and it isn't going to work in the long run. Please don't look to him for accurate confirmation on anything.

 

[indicolite22]

FD and NP will have to get back to you on that. I'm sure they're writing it right now!

So I'm guessing she never finished/published her novel.

 

[MemPat]

His children reportedly adored him, but he wasn't allowed to manipulate them any more. I don't think she would be able to take the kids away from him permanently though. If you took (her family) money out of the equation, I wonder if FD would still have wanted JD dead?

If you took Jennifer's money out of the equation there would probably have been no children and no marriage knowing this creep. MOO

 

[MemPat]

Jennifer Dulos' family: 'The situation is dire'- New Canaan Advertiser

I am hoping the state police will release some of the evidence of FD dropping off incriminating evidence in Hartford the night of the hit; that should offer overwhelming incriminating proof of his involvement with what must be called a murder. Has there ever been a similar case where a victim such as JD showed up after her blood was found both at a crime scene and in bags an hour and a half away the same day??

I've certainly never heard of this special kind of stupid and I picture the cops who found the bags still inside some of the cans dancing a jig when they found them.

 

[MsBetsy]

His children reportedly adored him, but he wasn't allowed to manipulate them any more. I don't think she would be able to take the kids away from him permanently though. If you took (her family) money out of the equation, I wonder if FD would still have wanted JD dead?

I think her money was already taken out of the equation.
Maybe he had no more use for her since he had already moved onto someone else.

I'm not sure he would have ever been able to have custody of the children if she had lived. The courts had already determined he was a danger to at least one, and that was while he was under close supervision. It would have taken him a long time just to earn back unsupervised visits.
His wife was likely to be a constant problem to him, since she would have done everything possible to protect her children from his abuse. It would have only gotten worse as the kids got older and developed minds of their own. Imo

 

[MemPat]

So I'm guessing she never finished/published her novel.

I hope her family finds a publisher and the book becomes a NYT bestseller making scads of money.

Won't that make FD some kind of miserable?

Imagine how many Greek delicacies that money could buy in the prison commissary!

 

[indicolite22]

If you took Jennifer's money out of the equation there would probably have been no children and no marriage. MOO

Fair enough. What about if FD wasn't in financial trouble and didn't owe his father in law money? Would FD still choose murder over divorce?

 

[MemPat]

I've been reading about NP. He has quite a history as many locals have posted about.
This is a recent article.Not sure if it's been posted.
Alex Jones and Fotis Dulos: The CT attorney who connects them

“I fight for people’s rights. In the Jones case I believe deeply in freedom of speech and I am concerned about emerging tendencies in the law to eliminate what we perceive to be hate speech,” the New Haven-based attorney said during a recent interview. “In Mr. Dulos’ case he’s been accused of, he’s suspected of a vicious crime and I defend people.”


“The connective tissue is I’m a lawyer who represents the interests of others and I’m drawn to cases involving Constitutional rights,” he said.

Anyone who would take the Alex Jones case and especially in that part of the country would defend anyone for anything. Yes, everyone deserves representation but there are lows to which most of us would never stoop. He and the murderer of five children's mother deserve to spend ever Father's Day together!

 

[sleuth66]

I think we can assume JD and the kids received health insurance through Fore Group. I mean they should have some benefits in play for their employees/their family right?

He probably removed JD/and or the kids from the policy when she enraged him and left. If she didn’t want the bills going to his house then she would have had to change the billing information at the hospital.

I don’t think they violate HIPAA at all as they are not revealing the details of her medical record.

JD filed in the divorce case in November 2017 that FD had let the family’s health insurance lapse and she couldn’t take the kids to the doctor; he told her to pay it herself.
The missent bill was likely due to a billing system still having JDs old address in their records. That has happened to me, I’ve received former home owners medical bills at my address sometimes years later, and I’m surprised when providers check with me and every now and then an old address of mine is still listed in their records.

 

[StarEyes]

Fair enough. What about if FD wasn't in financial trouble and didn't owe his father in law money? Would FD still choose murder over divorce?

Yes, I believe so. He’s a control freak. He lost control and I think he seethed with rage over it. I think he felt emasculated by a woman, kinda. He’d never tolerate that. He’s a sick individual. I don’t think he’s mentally ill, he’s just a sick narcissist who thinks all women should do whatever men tell them to do. Like we’re (women) way under the importance of men. Very sexist. Gross. jmo

 

[StarEyes]

IF JD truly wrote, or was writing, a novel on par with “Gone Girl”, it’s probably because she fantasized about escaping her life with FD. I think she knew she would be facing an uphill battle leaving him. I think she strongly believed he would murder her. She was a really really strong individual to leave and file divorce. Very brave in the face of what she would have to deal with from FD. jmo

 

[MsBetsy]

Fair enough. What about if FD wasn't in financial trouble and didn't owe his father in law money? Would FD still choose murder over divorce?

I think so, since I don't think his motive was as much for money as it was for control and revenge.
He had already found another financial source to maintain his status.
Imo

 

[MemPat]

If JD's body was in the trash bags they dumped, then (IMO) dismemberment took place at one of FD's properties. Did MT know about it? Did she tell LE about it?

I'm not sure about the content of the bags myself. Thirty (bags or stops) seems an awful lot for just cleaning supplies and some clothing though.

The police said that they knew what they were looking for at the trash facility. Does that mean that they got information that a certain piece of evidence was in the bags? Did MT provide that information? I'm still undecided if MT divulged anything to LE so far that would incriminate FD.

Wouldn't someone disposing of evidence top off each bag with random garbage in case a homeowner opened it?
That could explain why there were so many or is that too much thinking for these bozos?

 

[Canchance]

I think her money was already taken out of the equation.
Maybe he had no more use for her and had already moved onto someone else.

I'm not sure he would have ever been able to have custody of the children if she had lived. The courts had already determined he was a danger to at least one, and that was while he was under close supervision. It would have taken him a long time just to earn back unsupervised visits.
His wife was likely to be a constant problem to him, since she would have done everything possible to protect her children from his abuse. It would have only gotten worse as the kids got older and developed minds of their own. Imo

Kids at that age already have minds of their own and they can sense sooo much. I’ve no doubt that they were well aware of how their father treated their mother and likely have pretty strong feelings about it as well. Regardless of how much they purportedly ‘adored’ him.

 

[MemPat]

While we don’t yet know what LE has found at MIRA if JDs remains were dismembered and in those bags shown on C4 video (some of which were recovered by LE—the vast majority were not, as LE only learned of the trashbin odyssey of stupidity on May 31st though the actual dump took place on May 24th) I have to wonder if perhaps what was found may have been bone fragments.

(Sorry for any insensitivity here: my father was a Pathologist for 30 years before he passed away and I have witnessed many autopsies so I may be less squeamish and sentimental than most about remains).

If bone fragments were found or perhaps teeth or tooth fragments it would take longer to test for a positive ID. They were able to test items with blood on them found in the bags recovered on Albany at the DESPP lab and received results positive for JD on the same day they were submitted (6/1/19).

The more I read about the intensive search at MIRA the more I believe that LE believes that JDs remains did go through there and were in the bags that were dumped on Albany in Hartford. They have been there for three weeks combining through piles of shredded trash with people and canines.

Unfortunately, because they learned of the trashbin odyssey of stupidity a week after it occurred the content of the bags not recovered by LE were shredded and incinerated at MIRA before LE arrived. This is all MOO but it think apart from searches early on at Fore Group, LLC properties and Pound Ridge, the searching of the two ponds were based on “tips.”

We know that the search at MIRA will be wrapping up and most of the man power has been searching there. It may free them up to make additional searches of the addresses of importance but JMO as always I think LE believes JD’s remains were in those trash bags.

IIRC the trash was shredded but not yet incinerated. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[MsBetsy]

Wouldn't someone disposing of evidence top off each bag with random garbage in case a homeowner opened it?
That could explain why there were so many or is that too much thinking for these bozos?

Yes, I think its more likely that the garbage bags contained items from a major clean up job and the evidence was divided up and dispersed in those.
They were apparently emptying out one of his houses and probably figured that was a perfect excuse as to why he had to get rid of so many bags. Imo

 

[MemPat]

They can arrest him any time. However, having followed a few similar cases, it is my opinion that LE likes to recover the body if at all possible. The first case I ever sleuthed was Scott and Laci Peterson. LE had quite a bit of circumstantial evidence against Scott, but they waited to arrest him until they recovered the bodies of Laci and Conner. It took four months. IMHO, LE wants to build the strongest possible case.

The good news on this one versus what happened with Scott is Jennifer's blood/DNA/stupidity-videos which allowed LE to arrest FD and MT for tampering.

MT got a taste of what being locked up can mean to your child so I feel certain she spilled some secrets and started flirting with the prospect of a deal.

After the bodies washed up Scott was packed, dyed blonde and headed for the border. At least FD has that ankle bracelet!

 

[MemPat]

How in the world are they able to spot anything in that? I can’t comprehend how truly awful work this is and I admire them all so much - I still believe something significant led them to search this intensely - thanks all for posting today’s news I’ve updated the media thread

A tooth is such a tiny thing and likely to have survived the shredder.

I would bet some bonuses have been offered to motivate the people examining this garbage.

I would totally donate to that fund!