Silver Alert CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 #12 *ARRESTS*

[CarefullyTaught]

It's good to see that RD opened the door re the issue of FD's single handedly taking care of their parents KD and PD.
Is it relevant that this single handed burden of care FD took on re the care of KD included FD allegedly hanging out in Italy two months after KD sustained severe injuries and internal bleeding and head trauma in a staircase fall and that later FD claimed to investigators that JD supposedly reported to FD that KD had twice fallen and lost consciousness in the three days before the nanny FD almost certainly selected and employed ran over KD, yet FD did not contact hospital on KD's behalf to have his mom transferred, instead she was just heading out at night with children to the grocery store?
I wonder if RD has read that Connecticut State Police report about the KD death investigation sloppily patched together more than three months following KD's death? I wonder if RD can tell us why an autopsy wasn't done or whether KD ever told RD she'd like to be cremated; why KD is apparently not buried beside KD's husband in the cemetary in Canton?
If anyone ever puts her on the stand, I'm sure she's super nice, but I'm hoping the prosecutor asks her who assisted her with composing, writing (or "translating") this statement for RD? Perhaps it was her amazingly helpful brother? Perhaps it was her amazingly helpful brother's wonderful attorney/s?

 

[CTGrammy]

So-did FD ask for the keys, or would it be customary for him to always leave them wherever the truck is, does anyone think? I don’t use someone else’s car, so I don’t know. Where I am headed with this is, would EE have normally left them, or would FD ask specifically for them. I suppose it’s likely that the keys stayed with the truck typically. EE must know now that it is likely that FD drove his truck, and he may not have thought much of it unless FD pretended that he didn’t. EE should be pretty bent out of shape about that, since it now involves him in what is shaping up to be a murder investigation, with him and his truck featured prominently.

If they met at 80MS and the only two vehicles present were FD's truck and EE's truck, EE could have just given the keys to FD, assuming that FD would need the red truck to get home.

IMO, this is why they would have met at 80MS, so that is would look like, that the only way for FD to get home was to use EE's red truck so that FD could actually get the keys.

Then when EE came back, FD let EE think that the red truck had not moved all day by the truck still being at 80MS and FD being at home when EE returned.

 

[Gardenista]

Since she asked, I would like to respond to RD's question about relevancy and my answer is "NOPE, none of that is in the least bit relevant. But thank you for asking, and bless your heart."

 

[Svyt]

Here is the latest round-up if not posted yet:

Jennifer Dulos case: 5 latest developments

I don't know why Norm P keeps saying MT has not motive. Really? And now he wants to stop the divorce proceedings. Well of course. Obvious motives aside from his psychotic rage and need to control and "win": being a widow is going to go a lot better for him financially and custody-0wise (or so he thought/thinks) than being a divorcee. But Norm P is the guy who thinks his tale of woe being bullied as a kid justifies his defending psychotic bullies -- how about empathy fo the VICTIMS of bullies, Norm? He claims he was a victim, and he continues the cycle by going on to victimize others. Norm Pattis is nothing but an over-sized BULLY who wields the law in questionable ways to defend the grotesque and bash the true victims. What a pack of sinister losers, including MT, that shining beacon of womanhood - move in on a married mom of five, show no mercy, steal her life - literally. She was not weeping for poor JD, she was weeping for herself getting caught with blood on her hands. She and FD are the worst. I don't for a second believe MT was abused as well. She shows no honor, no remorse, no sympathy except for the devil. How about a statement of kindness and concern for lovely Jennifer? How about an apology for hooking up with another woman's husband (how many times has she done that now??), having no idea it would lead to this? She is a cold-hearted woman and was in deep, and I will believe that unless and until she uses everything she knows to help bury FD. Alibi my *ss. All MOO.

Yeah it’s like NP is trying to broker a deal via media communique basically saying/whistling Dixie :

Drop all “baseless charges” against MT and she will provide an alibi for my client. Uhhh, ok lets do that Norm! Coming right up.

Is he high?

I think MT was definitely involved but bargaining a lesser sentence hence the ZERO contact filing.

It is possible - another wild guess as we have little to go on - that she helped to a point under stipulation with FD that she wouldn’t be involved in the act or where the body went which would help her pass lie detection tests.

I am rethinking MT’s communication via media by Showcasing the ring and manicure in court as a sign of: I can’t talk/help you now but if you’re allowed a prison conjugal, I’m down for an occasional shag.

 

[citygirl]

Good to hear from RD and read her heartfelt comments about her brother FD. Her comments certainly add dimension to the information already in the press about FD IMO. I generally tend to believe actions of individuals more than their words so will reserve commentary until trial.

What is hard to come to terms for me with is reading family commentary (on this case of any case for that matter) that is clearly being said from the heart and then attempting to reconcile the commentary to the years and years of specific actions and choices made by FD whether it be in business, family, JD, prior relationship and current relationships. The court record alone on FD portrays him as an individual in a very specific way. I'll take the easy way out at this early stage of the game and say humans are complicated beings and FD certainly appears to be a complicated individual IMO.

We sisters are always protective of our brothers, aren't we? It's just the way we roll...well, it is in my family.
Having said that, wouldn't it have been nice to hear her talk about her sister-in-law? How they were so fond of her, her many visits to Greece over the years, giving all of her children Greek names. And how heartbroken they are that she has disappeared and worried about the children.

 

[afitzy]

I just wonder if FD had one of his day workers, either from his construction or from his landscaping contacts do this for him. They would have what was necessary, barrel, lye, truck. And, they would not look out of the ordinary. If he gave them enough of a pay off, they would never talk. Maybe that is what was going on during the two hours when his phone pinged at Mt. Springs the day she disappeared.

Certinly possible. There are so many workers associated with the construction business who have the capacity to simply melt away and move into and out of areas looking for work in the region and frankly on paper many of the day laborers in the area most likely have little in the way of documentation IMO. So, I agree that someone with this profile might have been enlisted as part of a nefarious plot by FD/MT.

FD seems to have worked hard to make it seem that he wasn't in NC on the missing date IMO (Pattis patter has been quite silent on the early claims of alibi so I'm not at all sure its anywhere near being air tight but we shall see!). Ditto for MT (will wait for LE statements to establish what the MT timeline was and not leave this up to Pattis patter). I also wonder if the body of JD ever left NC? All someone had to do on the missing date was subdue/kill JD, remove the body from Welles and place the body in a location nearby for later collection IMO (or as others suggest simply place the body in a drum). It seems like a huge risk to bring the body to Farmington as the chances of being caught on camera somewhere along the line seem very high. Ditto for bringing a body into any of the FORE Group properties IMO, why risk detection of DNA etc.? Seems you would want to keep any DNA matter as far away from anyplace associated with yourself IMO.

Curious what the Pattis investigation reveals and I don't believe any amount of baiting of the States Atty by Pattis and Crew will prompt any further info to be released on the morning timeline to the public unfortunately.

 

[afitzy]

Since she asked, I would like to respond to RD's question about relevancy and my answer is "NOPE, none of that is in the least bit relevant. But thank you for asking, and bless your heart."

You are fabulous!

 

[oviedo]

My understanding is that the GAL did not know until FD called him on Saturday morning.

I totally agree that GF did not personally call FD nor the Nanny.

I seriously doubt that anyone other than LE contacted FD and the question remains, did LE call FD Friday night or early Saturday morning?

IMO, FD called the GAL immediately after LE called FD.

He just could not hold his Enthusiasm in and displayed that, on the phone call to the GAL.

IMO, If FD was contacted by LE on Friday night, FD would have immediately called the GAL at that point.

IMO.

I just don't know about this - I know the divorce and litigation was contentious but there is a possibility that one of the kids texted FD to tell him they could not locate JD - I'm trying to figure out what prompted that 7pm run to Hartford - it seems to me it was done very haphazardly - almost like - "oh crap, they know - I've got to get rid of this clean up evidence".. so what made them go at 7pm - she was reported missing around that time - and LE was at her door by the time he was on his way to Hartford IIRC. Something is going on between 5-7pm and I am trying to figure out what it could be. I just think he was tipped off about her not arriving at her mom's after that last appointment IMO. Can't wait to see the phone records.

 

[oviedo]

Is it relevant that he is a uniquely bad husband, who is suspected of killing his estranged wife? Nobody has suggested that he has killed a child, or a niece, or a sibling. She didn’t address what went on with Jennifer, and how Jennifer’s family money was what supported FD’s parents. And by the way, since he is so concerned with bringing Jennifer back alive to her children, why isn’t he out looking for her-and why was he disposing of things with her blood on them, surreptitiously, in a neighborhood unassociated with him-and why was he uncooperative with the police? I’d like to know the answers to these questions. Oh, by the way, why did he punch the parking attendant in GF’s garage? Lives lived in an exemplary way don’t typically include physical violence. I know scads of adult men who have never done something like that. It shows he is a violent person when HE thinks he needs to be.

Boy she is unbelievable IMO - I think her "statement" is going to backfire. JMO

 

[MemPat]

Sorry RD .....all things irrelevant imo

FD will be judged solely on his actions as they pertain to the disappearance of his wife

Jmo

The headline for sister-girl's speech should be
"Ode to our Cash-Cow.....Is it relevant that the gravy train has ended and we're real sad, not to mention broke?"

 

[clearskies1]

Makes total sense! LE was walking a tight line too during the early hours after the missing report was filed as they probably had suspicions but not enough to charge yet and might have feared FD/MT fleeing.

I just keep thinking also about how the arrest warrant was so clear that neither FD nor MT were cooperating with LE. I've read many arrest warrants and even in cases where the early suspect is later charged we sometimes see these people going through the motions of helping/assisting even if to confuse LE or for whatever reason. The fact that neither FD nor MT cooperated on most likely even basic assistance to LE is something that I am having a hard time wrapping my head around.

Still puzzling over this GAL/FD 'relationship' but it seems like JD might have known something was 'up' with the 'relationship' which is why she had been trying to replace the GAL.

One thing FD did that he didn't have to do was go to NCPD headquarters the day after. Have no idea what NCPD told FD about the purpose of this visit but we know FD arrived with his lawyer. Presumably he was prepared to say or do something (superficial cooperation??), otherwise he wouldn't go. I get the impression from FD's motion to have evidence returned that the NCPD visit went south quickly. Seems like FD showed NCPD his phone and was taken aback that they refused to return it, and when the phone was confiscated FD and his attorney quickly exited. IMHO.

 

[indicolite22]

Perhaps, they normally exchanged vehicles at 4JC, since that would be on EE's way to 80MS if EE lived north of 4JC.

However, FD may well have asked to meet at 80MS on That Particular Friday, so that FD could use the 'idea' or 'illusion' that the red truck Stayed Parked at 80MS All Day on that Friday.

Making the exchange at 80MS would leave FD without a vehicle to get home and he would then need EE's red truck keys to get back home to get a different vehicle.

Let's say that the employee borrowed and returned FD's truck every day that week. If that was normaly done at 4JC, what was FD's justification to the employee to meet at 80MS instead on Friday morning?

Let's say that FD was not supposed to drive the employee's red Tacoma. Why would they meet away from FD's house so FD had to walk home in the morning? The red truck could have equally remained stationary at 4JC.

What if FD wasn't forbidden from driving the Tacoma and the employee was told that his car would only be used near the home?

What if FD wanted to change the location of the truck exchange that day because there were fewer/no cameras near the 80MS property compared to 4JC to record his movements in the morning?

Do we know where they exchanged trucks in previous days? Are we sure that it was a daily exchange?

 

[Svyt]

Is it relevant that nowhere do I include or support or identify or corroborate any alibi?
Is it relevant that I reportedly arrived three or four days ago and the statement I today release reads like the closing argument of a film based on a John Grisham novel?
Oh he single handedly took care of our parents for sure.

Is it relevant to know that before I even finished reading her
?statement? I awaited CarefullyTaught’s Is It Relevant list to follow
(Question Mark here not sure]

One to ten on the strange scale: TEN

 

[Gardenista]

The headline for sister-girl's speech should be
"Ode to our Cash-Cow.....Is it relevant that the gravy train has ended and we're real sad?"

OMG, I can't stop laughing.

 

[clearskies1]

I just don't know about this - I know the divorce and litigation was contentious but there is a possibility that one of the kids texted FD to tell him they could not locate JD - I'm trying to figure out what prompted that 7pm run to Hartford - it seems to me it was done very haphazardly - almost like - "oh crap, they know - I've got to get rid of this clean up evidence".. so what made them go at 7pm - she was reported missing around that time - and LE was at her door by the time he was on his way to Hartford IIRC. Something is going on between 5-7pm and I am trying to figure out what it could be. I just think he was tipped off about her not arriving at her mom's after that last appointment IMO. Can't wait to see the phone records.

Possibly one of JD's friends, JD's sister, or even LE contacted him before the Hartford run. JMO.

 

[Jmoose]

If they met at 80MS and the only two vehicles present were FD's truck and EE's truck, EE could have just given the keys to FD, assuming that FD would need the red truck to get home.

IMO, this is why they would have met at 80MS, so that is would look like, that the only way for FD to get home was to use EE's red truck so that FD could actually get the keys.

Then when EE came back, FD let EE think that the red truck had not moved all day by the truck still being at 80MS and FD being at home when EE returned.

Why did they meet at 80 MS? Was that house still under construction? All of these properties and their statuses have my head spinning. I guess ultimately it hardly matters...if EE was uninvolved aside from his truck, he has to be fuming about how he was pulled into this.

 

[citygirl]

Despite my selfish frustration of hearing nothing of late from LE, I am going back to the beginning and what we know. And to me the most damning evidence is the joy ride in the North End. Tight neighborhoods, houses close together, lots of homeless street people. Friday evening on a holiday weekend is usually jumping. Everybody is out and everybody knows everybody.

They would notice the likes of Mr.Dulos rolling through in his shiny black truck.

And the homeless know those dumpsters like the back of their hands. Who knows what they came across a week before and never reported? Until the cops came a callin'.

 

[citygirl]

Despite my selfish frustration of hearing nothing of late from LE, I am going back to the beginning and what we know. And to me the most damning evidence is the joy ride in the North End. Tight neighborhoods, houses close together, lots of homeless street people. Friday evening on a holiday weekend is usually jumping. Everybody is out and everybody knows everybody.

They would notice the likes of Mr.Dulos rolling through in his shiny black truck.

And the homeless know those dumpsters like the back of their hands. Who knows what they came across a week before and never reported? Until the cops came a callin'.

 

[kimch33kim]

The sister of Fotis Dulos, estranged husband of missing New Canaan mother Jennifer Farber Dulos, says “he is not the person they say he is”
"
Rena Dulos said that she had talked to Jennifer about the divorce two years ago when it started. She said that she was emailing with her until about six months ago when her lawyers told her to stop.

“We had a fantastic relationship even when the court situation started. She was a loving person for our family and we are so much worrying about her and I hope everything will end nicely,” Rena Dulos said.
"

 

[indicolite22]

After reading her statement, I'm wondering if FD's sister is in denial about his guilt or she's just trying to save his skin with the same far fetched story as NP?

 

[citygirl]

Despite my selfish frustration of hearing nothing of late from LE, I am going back to the beginning and what we know. And to me the most damning evidence is the joy ride in the North End. Tight neighborhoods, houses close together, lots of homeless street people. Friday evening on a holiday weekend is usually jumping. Everybody is out and everybody knows everybody.

They would notice the likes of Mr.Dulos rolling through in his shiny black truck.

And the homeless know those dumpsters like the back of their hands. Who knows what they came across a week before and never reported? Until the cops came a callin'.

 

[Jmoose]

If they met at 80MS and the only two vehicles present were FD's truck and EE's truck, EE could have just given the keys to FD, assuming that FD would need the red truck to get home.

IMO, this is why they would have met at 80MS, so that is would look like, that the only way for FD to get home was to use EE's red truck so that FD could actually get the keys.

Then when EE came back, FD let EE think that the red truck had not moved all day by the truck still being at 80MS and FD being at home when EE returned.

Why did they meet at 80 MS? Was that house still under construction? All of these properties and their statuses have my head spinning. I guess ultimately it hardly matters...if EE was uninvolved aside from his truck, he has to be fuming about how he was pulled into this.

 

[afitzy]

I just don't know about this - I know the divorce and litigation was contentious but there is a possibility that one of the kids texted FD to tell him they could not locate JD - I'm trying to figure out what prompted that 7pm run to Hartford - it seems to me it was done very haphazardly - almost like - "oh crap, they know - I've got to get rid of this clean up evidence".. so what made them go at 7pm - she was reported missing around that time - and LE was at her door by the time he was on his way to Hartford IIRC. Something is going on between 5-7pm and I am trying to figure out what it could be. I just think he was tipped off about her not arriving at her mom's after that last appointment IMO. Can't wait to see the phone records.

Agree with you that 5-7 pm period was critical.

There are so many people in the mix that like you said we will have to wait for the phone records to see the contacts made to puzzle this critical time period out fully. It sounded like the children weren't able to contact FD directly via phone without supervision but we have seen so many other infractions in this case and learned of other cases where its easy to get around the court rules if people are so inclined. So, my suspicion is that no calls from: nanny or GF or JD friends. Possible calls during this period from: NCPD/State Police/Farmington Police, GF atty, JD atty, FD atty. The other thing is that perhaps MT got a call that kicked off the run to Albany Ave. Its hard to tell how integrated MT was into the lives of JD/JD children to see how this could happen. My guess is that JD did everything she could to put MT outside the boundaries of herself and her children but with interaction over time I'm not sure it might be impossible to pull off.

While we have zero specific info on burner phones being used I keep going back to the sniffer dogs in Waveny that were supposedly trained to search out electronic items. Perhaps they were looking for JD phone or maybe burners or maybe both? IDK. So little info that even when it was later mentioned that FD had a second phone that was a bit surprising (maybe not as it could have been specifically for nonUS calls).

 

[oviedo]

After reading her statement, I'm wondering if FD's sister is in denial about his guilt or she's just trying to save his skin with the same far fetched story as NP?

To be honest, I thought somewhere in these many threads - sleuthers posted about why the family has not stepped forward to support him? If that's the case - now we know - his lawyer probably said it's time to support him publicly - but usually those statements of support come out right away - like "no way, my brother/son/father/husband/nephew would never do anything to harm his wife/girlfriend/child..." you get the picture. I think this statement is way too late IMO. it does nothing for him JMO