Silver Alert CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 #15 *ARRESTS*

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  • #821
I keep telling myself I’m going to rein in my imagination but alas: What about the septic or some other location at JD’s house? It would not be connected to him like one of the other houses would be.

Yes, that's a great point; however, FD wouldn't necessarily know the location of the septic tank lid at JD's house unless he possibly went to town hall to see exactly where its located in the yard, and even then, it's typically the homeowner who might know where the lid is. Sometimes my septic guy has to dig up several areas just to get at the cover and it creates a real mess that would likely be noticed at JD's property. If he dumped her in the woods, they would have found her. He didn't have the capability of digging some massive hole at her home.
Did the FBI or police spray luminol all over these locations?
 
  • #822
One more thought: We know there was evidence of blood in the garage and the faucet, and we heard about blood on at least some of the items in the trash bags in the 30-trash-can stops. What exactly do we think happened to kill JD that would be, apparently, bloody? I’m not asking to be gory; I’m just thinking it might help us to consider this. I just realized I haven’t thought about FD’s clothes; surely he got some on himself.

You guys have me thinking: Fast disposal of poor JD’s body with, apparently, enough blood to need cleaning up could be done by what? He keeps doing lawn work, which none of us thinks he used to do all the time. So...hedge trimmers? Chainsaw? Chipper? Large mower like professionals use to mow large properties? While I know anecdotes are not helpful, I’ve seen some already-dead animals get run over by them, and not much left. Brush mower? Composter? Industrial or large-size trash compactor? Do any of the properties have pools, not that I have a good reason to ask?
 
  • #823
Yes, great thoughts! I can relate. Where I live—not CT so who knows—newer houses seem to have a plate and earlier I shared some photos of large septic stick-ups for access in new, expensive homes. With a new house (I think the rental wasn’t old?), I bet someone like FD who built houses would have a decent idea where it was based on knowing the house somewhat, the gradient, and basic regulations. They can’t go by a driveway, etc. I still don’t think he put her at her own house; just trying to think. Thank you!


Yes, that's a great point; however, FD wouldn't necessarily know the location of the septic tank lid at JD's house unless he possibly went to town hall to see exactly where its located in the yard, and even then, it's typically the homeowner who might know where the lid is. Sometimes my septic guy has to dig up several areas just to get at the cover and it creates a real mess that would likely be noticed at JD's property. If he dumped her in the woods, they would have found her. He didn't have the capability of digging some massive hole at her home.
Did the FBI or police spray luminol all over these locations?
 
  • #824
I'd be willing to bet that every single inch of each one of the properties involved, including all the underground features, have been searched thoroughly with cadaver dogs & various equipment. IMO there is alot going on behind the scenes that we are not privy to. Everybody keep the faith, LE has their s#!& together!
 
  • #825
One more thought: We know there was evidence of blood in the garage and the faucet, and we heard about blood on at least some of the items in the trash bags in the 30-trash-can stops. What exactly do we think happened to kill JD that would be, apparently, bloody? I’m not asking to be gory; I’m just thinking it might help us to consider this. I just realized I haven’t thought about FD’s clothes; surely he got some on himself.

You guys have me thinking: Fast disposal of poor JD’s body with, apparently, enough blood to need cleaning up could be done by what? He keeps doing lawn work, which none of us thinks he used to do all the time. So...hedge trimmers? Chainsaw? Chipper? Large mower like professionals use to mow large properties? While I know anecdotes are not helpful, I’ve seen some already-dead animals get run over by them, and not much left. Brush mower? Composter? Industrial or large-size trash compactor? Do any of the properties have pools, not that I have a good reason to ask?

I think he either hit poor JD over the head with a blunt object or slammed her head into the hard cement floor and that's when he really went nuts. Something caused blood splatter, so there was a force of some sort. The two New Canaan properties do not have pools. A mower or trash compactor could show too much blood evidence. There are so many questions...what was the reasoning behind the extensive search of the upstate dump?! Was it simply because he disposed of the 30 bags on Albany st.?
 
  • #826
They have sewers in New Canaan

Good to know! Thank you!!! One possibility off the list! I’ll go delete my post text!
 
  • #827
Good point ! All this talk about septics got me thinking .... they must have no Public Works in NC ... which would mean well water ... wells are narrow and not easy to access ... hmmm

Good thought!!! Some wells aren’t so small if it’s a place needing a large-diameter well to get enough gpm of water. At least here, even old water wells have stickups. Mine is in the side yard with a metal cover. It’s not big enough for a human (thank heavens) but if it were open, I would be worried about cats and possums. It’s for an old, non-mansion house, though.

Doesn’t matter, I see! Someone below said they have sewers in NC so probably they don’t have wells then.

Wonder if any groundwater monitoring is going on around nearby? GW wells can have large diameters although they have locking covers generally. Still I doubt it.
 
  • #828
I come back to this site every day in hopes of seeing some new development in the case. Unfortunately, I've been repeatedly disappointed. As others have said, I hope LE will release some new info soon. I don't share others' optimism. I think if LE had some compelling evidence, they would charge him without waiting for two months. They can continue to investigate, but between the GF lawsuit, the divorce, the kids, the trust, and other issues, he shouldn't be on the street if he did it. The fact that he is still walking around makes me think that LE does not have enough evidence to charge. plain and simple. Call me a skeptic, but I wouldn't be surprised if the trash run, and the stains in the garage didn't have anything to do with JD's disappearance. I think LE feels this may be possible as well. If it's all the evidence they have, they realize charging him is likely to create credibility issues. So, every day that there are no further arrests is a bad thing for those hoping to find JD or to see FD receive justice.

I understand. Really, though, while nine weeks seem like an eternity because we hate the injustice, I truly think it’s due to them being meticulous because we all know FD and NP will try anything to refute proof. MOO.
 
  • #829
I come back to this site every day in hopes of seeing some new development in the case. Unfortunately, I've been repeatedly disappointed. As others have said, I hope LE will release some new info soon. I don't share others' optimism. I think if LE had some compelling evidence, they would charge him without waiting for two months. They can continue to investigate, but between the GF lawsuit, the divorce, the kids, the trust, and other issues, he shouldn't be on the street if he did it. The fact that he is still walking around makes me think that LE does not have enough evidence to charge. plain and simple. Call me a skeptic, but I wouldn't be surprised if the trash run, and the stains in the garage didn't have anything to do with JD's disappearance. I think LE feels this may be possible as well. If it's all the evidence they have, they realize charging him is likely to create credibility issues. So, every day that there are no further arrests is a bad thing for those hoping to find JD or to see FD receive justice.


IMO, LE really doesn't need to be in a rush to charge MT or FD with murder. Considering LE has said it was JD's blood on the items in the bag coupled with the videos of MT and FD disposing of the bags, the charges that have been filed seem like a slam dunk.

NP came out immediately and said FD wanted a speedy trial. There would be no problem for LE to let that trial proceed giving them unlimited time to pursue evidence for the murder trial.

JMO, but I think LE feels like they hold all the cards because one way or another FD and MT will be under surveillance or incarcerated in the near future.

If LE needs more time to gather evidence it's in their best interest to wait to file more charges. NP can't demand a speedy trial for charges that haven't been made yet.
 
  • #830
This is a good question. Sure its possible but if JD actively used her system most systems would kick out a warning about a zone malfunction. Ususally these zone malfunction indicators won't go away on the system until the issue is fixed and then it resets to say the system is working properly.

The other issue related to what you are talking about is FD or someone else placing a hidden camera/spy cam or listening device either inside or outside the house. Its possible that this could have been placed on the Wed even when FD was outside. Still think this is a very real possibility.

I also wonder if all the service providers to the house from the lawn service to the routine trades people have been vetted by LW. Ditto for any household staff and backup nannys/babysitters/caretakers etc. Concerned about JD possibily using tradespeople that had ties to FD/FORE and how they could have essentially bugged or cammed her house. The prospects of this from a personal privacy standpoint are hugely frightening to me!


Going back to the infamous FD 911 call to say 'I can't reach my wife and children' I seriously wonder if FD is at all technically competent to install and follow tracking software or cameras etc. That 911 call was either made intoxicated or he has no clue about anything technical IMO as he was having basic issues with his phone functionality IMO! Could have been a total act? Who knows.

MOO

It would surprise me very much if JD had anyone working for her with any connection at all to FD. I suppose it is possible, but I really don’t think it’s likely.
 
  • #831
Hello! I am new to posting here but not new to following cases on Websleuths. There are so many amazing posters on this thread who share knowledge, wisdom and compassion. Thank you all with a special shout out to afitzy and the other locals who have brought a wealth of information to the forum.

Now about that loud noise....someone using a plumber's snake, particularly one with a power assist to clear a vent stack or sewage line? I think PVC is the pipe of choice nowadays for waste lines but at minimum the vent on the roof is likely copper because the gutters and the leaders are.
Good point about the plumbers snake @Hair of the Dog !
 
  • #832
LE is really playing this one close to the vest, which is a great tactic. With so many people involved in the investigation, it is very difficult to keep information confidential. It speaks to the professionalism of these investigators that there have been no leaks.

It seems clear, though, that FD and his lawyers have fooled no one with their wild speculation (and absolutely awful televised interview) that JD is a 'gone girl' or any other such nonsense. Clearly, everybody knows FD killed his wife. For those who live in the area, has there been any local discussion about what is going on with the investigation or theories about what actually happened? It seems the physical searches have stopped, and it is now a matter of forensics and witness interviews. If JD's body had been recovered, we would certainly know, so it is save to assume that hasn't happened. I just wonder how many friends/neighbors/co-workers/"other women" LE has interviewed.

FD may have advanced degrees and be book smart, but no killer is ever as smart as they believe themselves to be. Still, my strong intuition-and nothing more- leads me to believe he spent many hours planning what he thought was the perfect murder. I will never believe this murder was in any way spontaneous or impulsive. What supplies did he need for the task? Where did he purchase them? Every step of the way, he was preparing his brutal assault. The details of those actions, while perhaps not as dramatic as locating JD, are what will ultimately convict FD of 1st degree murder. Which is why I wonder how far reaching LE's investigation has been.
I think he fantasized for many hours and thus had a lot of ideas of what he would do and how. However, I feel the actual time the murder happened, was a very quick progression in his mind. I don't think it was a matter of weeks or months and he was just waiting for the right moment. I think it was crystallized in days or hours. Maybe rage was heightened by drug use. The walls were truly crumbling. And it was all JD fault. I personally feel he was way out of control when the murder happened, not calm and collected.
 
  • #833
I think he either hit poor JD over the head with a blunt object or slammed her head into the hard cement floor and that's when he really went nuts. Something caused blood splatter, so there was a force of some sort. The two New Canaan properties do not have pools. A mower or trash compactor could show too much blood evidence. There are so many questions...what was the reasoning behind the extensive search of the upstate dump?! Was it simply because he disposed of the 30 bags on Albany st.?
A tool from the garage or even a baseball bat.
 
  • #834
I keep telling myself I’m going to rein in my imagination but alas: What about the septic or some other location at JD’s house? It would not be connected to him like one of the other houses would be.
Been thinking along those lines too! IMO she is somewhere that conveys a “lesson” or “message” from FD or most likely, she was never moved. Leaving her somewhere in the house, yard or immediate vicinity was the least risky plan. Bring stopped w body in car because of taped plates was a huge risk. MOO
 
  • #835
Good to know! Thank you!!! One possibility off the list! I’ll go delete my post text!
Not everyone in New Canaan has sewers! Many, many residences, especially those who are in neighborhoods like Welles lane and Sturbridge have septics. You can look it up per address. Hooking up sewers is not easy in our area because of rolling hills, rock ledge, woods...
 
  • #836
Good thought!!! Some wells aren’t so small if it’s a place needing a large-diameter well to get enough gpm of water. At least here, even old water wells have stickups. Mine is in the side yard with a metal cover. It’s not big enough for a human (thank heavens) but if it were open, I would be worried about cats and possums. It’s for an old, non-mansion house, though.

Doesn’t matter, I see! Someone below said they have sewers in NC so probably they don’t have wells then.

Wonder if any groundwater monitoring is going on around nearby? GW wells can have large diameters although they have locking covers generally. Still I doubt it.

There are wells and septic tanks in NC. You can get the location of them publicly.
Welcome to New Canaan, CT
 
  • #837
Dang, your posts keep resonating with me - you know of which you speak! Time has distanced/softened me from this type of psychological terrorism you so aptly describe, but in the heat of a volatile separation it is only too real.
This rings true for me.
 
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I don’t have the knowledge myself, but according to my husband, if the septic tanks in NC are like the ones where we live just over the border in Westchester, FD would have no trouble putting JD in the septic tank ( he has seen the opening of ours). I think this is at least a possibility, and I don’t think he would have a lot of trouble finding the septic at JD’s house. I don’t necessarily think he needed JD to be hidden forever; just long enough for him to leave the country, which is what I think his original plan might have been. With the kids.
 
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I think he either hit poor JD over the head with a blunt object or slammed her head into the hard cement floor and that's when he really went nuts. Something caused blood splatter, so there was a force of some sort. The two New Canaan properties do not have pools. A mower or trash compactor could show too much blood evidence. There are so many questions...what was the reasoning behind the extensive search of the upstate dump?! Was it simply because he disposed of the 30 bags on Albany st.?
I think he hit her with something or perhaps slammed her head on the car. I think he would have wanted to knock her out as quickly as possible. I suppose he could also have used a garotte. Could the bags have been used to carry her body somewhere else?
 
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