Silver Alert CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #17

[Caroline Lago]

He flat-out made up the lie about JD being a long term heroin addict

I think it's safe to say that most

After court today (also known as a s*it-show) I am angrier and sadder. This pony-tailed puke face is a waste of oxygen; as is his shifty-eyed dirty rat of a client. jmo...off to the corner-again.

I agree with you. This site occupies too much of my time as it is. Yes, off to the corner of the ring they go again. Here's my question to any experts, or WS people in the know, are we truly just holding out for JD's body here!! Are they holding back evidence until JD is found? If a body is not found, at what point, if any, does FD get charged with murder?!

 

[afitzy]

Hold on now.
What do we know about his family?
Sister is an architect in Greece. Niece somewhere around New England. Brother in Mass. Father passed long before all this started. Mother had tragic accident.

Now stop right there. That’s all we know about the tragedy right now. LE never pursued it. So it was an accident until proven otherwise. Tragic. No doubt. Questionable in light of recent events. But an accident.

I’ve never seen anything else about them. Maybe they are cruel. Maybe not.

It’s not the benefit of the doubt about the family. It’s that they start out on even ground in my humble opinion. We’re so quick to judge them. Wouldn’t you try to do SOMETHING if your family member was in this situation? Maybe not even for FD, but for his children? To reach out to GF and ask if there is anything that they can do to help the children? Or GF? And if the response is leave us alone, then FD family knows that at least they tried to do right IN THEIR HEARTS. Maybe GF was advised by therapists to not allow contact. I don’t know. But if that’s what she was advised, she acted on that suggestion. If she was advised otherwise, that is still her decision. Who better to know what is best for her grandchildren?

So which family member was attempting contact? Multiple persons? Non family members? Greeks are a very tight knit group. Like the Jews, Hispanics and some Asians. I’m sure there are more national groups that are very clannish. I admire all of them for these traits. I wish I belonged to an ethnic group like that. The best I can do is work with my family, to bind us together. No matter what happens. We’re family. ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT WE ARE ONE.

So if a member of FD is cruel, so be it. BUT:

Maybe they are reaching out with love and not cruelty. Maybe with concern for the children’s welfare. Maybe so that the children know the Greek side of the family knows that they are suffering and wished they could help, in some way.
And not for any other reason.

What do any of you think?
Can we give the families a chance?
I’m willing to give them that opportunity, until facts present themselves that would change my decision.
Family courts look to the following:
“What is in the best interests of the children?”

Families in this no matter which side are victims IMO no different than JD.

But I believe in this case the State today was making the point that family members were being used to circumvent FD no contact order issued lastly (and again today confirmed in Criminal Court) by Family Court.

There are no ifs/ands/buts I think that is a horrible situation for any family to have to go through. But to use family members to circumvent a court order is not legal and to potentially use another innocent child to circumvent a court order if that is what happened is IMO reprehensible.

Adults in the family should understand what a no contact order means for FD, so to hide behind using children as intermediaries, if that is what happened, is unacceptable IMO and puts GF in the no win position of having to police a situation.

The discussion on the contact issue for FD family wasn't discussed in depth today so who knows what all has been going on, but it has to be dealt with for the sake of the children. But the situation must have been concerning IMO as GF brought it to the attention of the State's Atty who brought it up in court.

MOO

 

[afitzy]

I think it's safe to say that most


I agree with you. This site occupies too much of my time as it is. Yes, off to the corner of the ring they go again. Here's my question to any experts, or WS people in the know, are we truly just holding out for JD's body here!! Are they holding back evidence until JD is found? If a body is not found, at what point, if any, does FD get charged with murder?!

Ha! You might just have to stick around a bit longer as you are asking the $1,000,000 questions to which no clear answers exist I think - chime in if you disagree!

Curious what others think, but we heard in court today that Colangelo/State's Atty hadn't yet seen all the cell phone records that No Case Norm was pestering him about. So, based on the cell record info and Pattis general complaining about discovery, IMO this case is in its infancy.

This case, such as it is, is incredibly complicated from the digital records, financial records, forensic evidence and physical evidence along with witnesses etc.

Will there be a body? IDK but the State seems to be proceeding as if that doesn't matter much to their plan. Could there be a body here and we are not aware? Maybe IDK. We didn't know about JD bloody VV tee in Hartford but we found out that it most likely did exist and that the family was told about it back in May.

No quick answers so will just have to ride it out as justice seems like its going to take awhile here!

MOO

 

[afitzy]

I try to keep up with all the posts here. But I must have missed the Dulos Family contacting the children through an intermediary.
Can someone point me in the correct direction?

It was brought up in Court today by States atty in the last few minutes of court. If you want the replay just listen to last 5 min of the Fox61 clip that someone posted previously.

 

[afitzy]

HC Summary of Court Date today:
Fotis Dulos, estranged husband of missing New Canaan mother Jennifer Farber Dulos, appears in court; judge does not rule on gag order, motion to dismiss

 

[hivee]

Hold on now.
What do we know about his family?
Sister is an architect in Greece. Niece somewhere around New England. Brother in Mass. Father passed long before all this started. Mother had tragic accident.

Now stop right there. That’s all we know about the tragedy right now. LE never pursued it. So it was an accident until proven otherwise. Tragic. No doubt. Questionable in light of recent events. But an accident.

I’ve never seen anything else about them. Maybe they are cruel. Maybe not.

It’s not the benefit of the doubt about the family. It’s that they start out on even ground in my humble opinion. We’re so quick to judge them. Wouldn’t you try to do SOMETHING if your family member was in this situation? Maybe not even for FD, but for his children? To reach out to GF and ask if there is anything that they can do to help the children? Or GF? And if the response is leave us alone, then FD family knows that at least they tried to do right IN THEIR HEARTS. Maybe GF was advised by therapists to not allow contact. I don’t know. But if that’s what she was advised, she acted on that suggestion. If she was advised otherwise, that is still her decision. Who better to know what is best for her grandchildren?

So which family member was attempting contact? Multiple persons? Non family members? Greeks are a very tight knit group. Like the Jews, Hispanics and some Asians. I’m sure there are more national groups that are very clannish. I admire all of them for these traits. I wish I belonged to an ethnic group like that. The best I can do is work with my family, to bind us together. No matter what happens. We’re family. ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT WE ARE ONE.

So if a member of FD is cruel, so be it. BUT:

Maybe they are reaching out with love and not cruelty. Maybe with concern for the children’s welfare. Maybe so that the children know the Greek side of the family knows that they are suffering and wished they could help, in some way.
And not for any other reason.

What do any of you think?
Can we give the families a chance?
I’m willing to give them that opportunity, until facts present themselves that would change my decision.
Family courts look to the following:
“What is in the best interests of the children?”

They would respect the process and procedures. They would not be associated with someone suspect of murder, regardless of if it's family. IMO they are under the manipulative spell and codependency. It's heinous if they are trying to help him make contact. Has his side of the family provided for or given any money to the kids? MOO. No disrespect to your post, btw.

 

[afitzy]

CBS-NY report of Court Date today:
Lawyer Claims Missing Mother Jennifer Dulos Took Thousands From Estranged Husband Before Disappearance

 

[afitzy]

Local Channel8 Court Date summary:
Judge allows Fotis Dulos to get back vehicles, can’t move GPS monitor or contact Troconis, children

 

[hivee]

CBS-NY report of Court Date today:
Lawyer Claims Missing Mother Jennifer Dulos Took Thousands From Estranged Husband Before Disappearance

This is the headline he wanted. MOO.

 

[Jmoose]

I've just looked at his work over the past 4 years and he has had a few but not many that I've seen. But the tone taken and the dismissive language and body language when speaking about the author in Court today wasn't necessary. I don't think he has forgotten the authors name for a second and I think it was butchered on purpose to indicate her lack of significance. IMO the attitude we've seen so far on women won't serve him well with jury (not that he wants women on his jury!). MOO

He only has a certain number of exceptions so he can’t keep all of the women off the jury-there will be at least a few. And there will be some men who don’t want to kill their wives, and some men who are related to women who have been abused by a partner. He can let that sink in. I know he only needs one juror who doesn’t get it. But I want to be optimistic

 

[nina318]

Now Pattis says Jennifer took money from Fotis’ accounts, but he hasn’t gone to press.

Since they are not divorced AND most funds were from JD's family, how did he have "money" to take? IMO - it's quite the opposite - FD took money from JD and her parents. Pure slime. I am catching up after being out today. I am glad NP and FD appeared to be smacked down a bit. MOO!

 

[Jmoose]

This is the headline he wanted. MOO.

At what point in the two years that they’ve been contentiously divorcing, would she have had a chance to do that? Even if any of it was “his money”? She would have had a right to at least some of the money, if not at least half when she left. She isn’t going to get a dime from any of the real estate that they co-owned (I don’t mean 4 JX), or any of their other assets. He gets 100% of it, such as it is, and it is entirely his fault that she left-trying to move his girlfriend and her daughter into their house...that he owned almost nothing of. What a bunch of bs. This is nothing but projecting by FD and NP; get into the court or at least public record that it isn’t he who is the thief, but she is the one who stole from him.

 

[Jmoose]

Court summary by local paper/Patch:
Missing Mom Case: Fotis Dulos Denied Wife's Medical Records

I still want to know how FD and NP got ahold of a current list of charges for lab and other tests? He wasn’t paying for her health insurance, and had NO RIGHT to look at any mail addressed to her, regardless of where it was sent. I wonder why the prosecutor didn’t ask the judge to make a motion telling FD that he isn’t allowed to open her mail?

 

[Jmoose]

Since they are not divorced AND most funds were from JD's family, how did he have "money" to take? IMO - it's quite the opposite - FD took money from JD and her parents. Pure slime. I am catching up after being out today. I am glad NP and FD appeared to be smacked down a bit. MOO!

He is projecting; the best defense is a good offense.

 

[Tink56]

This is the headline he wanted. MOO.

AND, to add to @Jmoose post...going back to the custody response by Judge Heller, FD has not been supporting his children financially for the past two years....JD and her mother paid for the kids' private school (which FD helped select and agreed to send them), paid the mortgage and taxes of Jefferson Crossing for two years, (where FD lived with his "girlfriend"), FD has paid no alimony or child support, and JD paid for the counseling and psychologist, I believe.

I don't know who wrote that headline, but whoever it was needs to be informed about the reality of FD's financial abandonment of his children.

 

[citygirl]

Court summary by local paper/Patch:
Missing Mom Case: Fotis Dulos Denied Wife's Medical Records

My feeling is that they were pretty much shut down today.

The judge tried to be fair. Left the door open to to re-file for JD's medical records at a later time. Left more time for the gag order arguments.

No to the ankle bracelet. No to everything else as far as recovery.

And the PT threw them a bone giving up the Jeep and the Suburban.

One question? PT said we are just finishing up extracting from FD's phone. What exactly is he saying? It's been 10 weeks. Wouldn't this have been completed early on?

 

[Jmoose]

AND, to add to @Jmoose post...going back to the custody response by Judge Heller, FD has not been supporting his children financially for the past two years....JD and her mother paid for the kids' private school (which FD helped select and agreed to send them), paid the mortgage and taxes of Jefferson Crossing for two years, (where FD lived with his "girlfriend"), FD has paid no alimony or child support, and JD paid for the counseling and psychologist, I believe.

I don't know who wrote that headline, but whoever it was needs to be informed about the reality of FD financial abandonment of his children.

Somebody should clue them in so they can amend their article. I mean, way to go with the research for the article!

 

[Jmoose]

My feeling is that they were pretty much shut down today.

The judge tried to be fair. Left the door open to to re-file for JD's medical records at a later time. Left more time for the gag order arguments.

No to the ankle bracelet. No to everything else as far as recovery.

And the PT threw them a bone giving up the Jeep and the Suburban.

One question? PT said we are just finishing up extracting from FD's phone. What exactly is he saying? It's been 10 weeks. Wouldn't this have been completed early on?

When you think about it, with FD, there have to be layers and layers of evidence you may not even realize is evidence, so I am not surprised that it is taking this long. They will likely miss something and wish they had his phone back. FD surely has a new phone by now; is there really a big rush? What does he have on there that he needs/wants to determine if LE has seen? Does his legal team need to go through his phone in the same fine-toothed-comb way, so they can look at what is suspicious and find an innocent explanation for it? I hope to god there are some texts to EE, KM, MT etc that string him up.

 

[Midwestmom2019]

Somebody should clue them in so they can amend their article. I mean, way to go with the research for the article!

Sometimes I think MSM writes bogus stories to get the public riled up. Everyone’s talking about it. Other media outlets disputing it. Guests appear either for or against story. Good means to cover several days of no new news or to extend one day’s news to 5 days. Ratings, ratings and ratings.

 

[afitzy]

I still want to know how FD and NP got ahold of a current list of charges for lab and other tests? He wasn’t paying for her health insurance, and had NO RIGHT to look at any mail addressed to her, regardless of where it was sent. I wonder why the prosecutor didn’t ask the judge to make a motion telling FD that he isn’t allowed to open her mail?

I agree with you! No different than the psych report that FD took/stole/lifted/misappropriated from his former atty, it truly looks like he opened mail addressed to JD. But who knows? Perhaps they sorted out the whole health insurance situation and so he gets duplicate bills of certain charges?

I doubt greatly that FD got the health insurance bill through legal means as if he had access to prior JD health insurance claims then why would No Case Norm ask in Court today to go on some fishing expedition to figure out who JD doctors were and what her health situation was. Also, why would JD want her medical information in the hands of someone that was trying to take away everything she had in court, including her children? My guess is when she left she cut the cord completely and shared nothing of a personal medical nature with FD as she knew she was fighting for her life!

So, I'm with you on calling BS on this and I think FD did what he does which we have seen is not follow the rules so he must have opened up a bill or insurance letter not addressed to him. My guess is the reason nobody has ever seen the letter is that is was clearly addressed to JD and NOT FD or even MR and MRS. It was FD thinking he found something that he could leverage against JD or GF in some way in court and the means that he used to get the info was no doubt not legal which is why the letter has never seen the light of day in public.

What I do find incredible though is that Pattis as an officer of the court first used the stolen psych report to speak to the press and then continues on to use the medical forms/insurance form that most likely came via suspicious means? Is there no rule or law or standard that Pattis won't break in defending his client? To me it looks as if Pattis is as lawless and remorseless as the people he chooses to defend but we will have to wait for a jury to see what happens here. But I do wonder why neither the State nor the Judge asked the source of the alleged medical bill/insurance form or questioned how it came to be in the hands of FD? Baffling.

MOO