Silver Alert CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #17

[afitzy]

I don't know if it's been established who the primary insured was. Typically, when spouses separate, neither party can drop health insurance. Coverage must remain ongoing until the court says otherwise...usually when the divorce is final. MOO

Yes true about health insurance. But in this sad case FD did drop the insurance on the family due to non payment and we learned this in family court documents. Its a bit crazy that JD had to worry about heading to a Dr appt for herself or child and thinking "will my insurance be declined because Doofus didn't pay the bill this month"? My guess is she said life is too short and paid out of pocket or got her own private policy for the children and herself. MOO

Maybe he was forced to put this back in place but we never learned how the situation had been resolved in family court? But I also bet she was paying because she didn't want him to have her personal medical info. MOO

 

[CTGrammy]

I don't know if it's been established who the primary insured was. Typically, when spouses separate, neither party can drop health insurance. Coverage must remain ongoing until the court says otherwise...usually when the divorce is final. MOO

Yes, and FD was instructed by Family Court to continue the Family Health Insurance.

However, months later, Jennifer has to bring this up in Court when FD stopped paying the premiums.

FD allegedly says in court 'She should pay out of pocket'.

Since then we do not know if FD was forced to pay the premiums or JD purchased COBRA insurance or started paying the premiums that FD stopped paying.

The Court documents in the Family Court are mostly sealed and a few can be reviewed in person at the Court House.

MOO MOO

 

[Tink56]

I'm always surprised about how crisp and clear the picture is of the license plate is when it comes with the monthly summary for the non-EZ pass holders. I saw one recently taken at night with bad weather and visibility and the resolution was good.

I do wonder though what happens when fake plates are detected? You would think that there is some group tasked with tracking down deadbeats. From the way the plates were described with the tape etc., it doesn't sound like it would have taken a rocket scientist to figure out the tape alterations and get back to the cancelled plates belonging to FD IMO.

Do you think FD used the plates to head to NY and that is why he needed the altered plates? CT doesn't have tolls and even though I have been searching on the issue of plate readers on major highways I can't find out much other than that they exist along with the traffic cams that everyone is already family with on 95 and Merritt and I would think 91 and 84 etc.

MOO

Good thoughts...

Another question comes to mind...When I look at the CT traffic cameras, a message appears on the screen that the footage is for monitoring traffic only and is not recorded. So, there would be no footage that is kept for LE to review from the ordinary traffic cameras. Is this correct? Do some of the cameras have the capacity to store data?

 

[afitzy]

I am thinking a big “yes” on the last one. He isn’t a rule follower, as we know. Wouldn’t be surprised to find out that MT could be receptive, and that her lawyer is just trying to hold the line on this officially, but knowing that there really isn’t anything he can do about it.

Just the idea that we know that MT is up in Avon leads me to believe that they are in contact. Her daughter isn't in school now and is supposedly with baby daddy for the summer in Argentina. There is no reason in the world that MT couldn't relocate to another area of the state.

On the surface of it, the MT choice to return to Avon is suspicious. But its probably less expensive to stay in Avon than Westport and environment is probably quieter. But I'm surprised her atty didn't suggest going far away from Avon as the optics of her current situation of being in the exact hotel where she and FD fled when they were booted from 4Jx by LE has me really scratching my head?

MOO

 

[afitzy]

Good thoughts...

Another question comes to mind...When I look at the CT traffic cameras, a message appears on the screen that the footage is for monitoring traffic only and is not recorded. So, there would be no footage that is kept for LE to review from the ordinary traffic cameras. Is this correct? Do some of the cameras have the capacity to store data?

IDK. Good questions. I have tried to sleuth these questions with mixed results and am still trying to figure this out.

My speculation is that after 9/11 Homeland Security did a good job placing a security net around the tri-state area with a focus on the major highways in/out of NYC etc. The work they did is most visible in NYC but it happened all over I think as how else could they track someone traveling if they suddenly lost camera coverage on 95 or Merritt in CT?

So, the coverage they have might not be the same traffic cams that we watch on the news but who knows maybe they could be. IDK. So much north/south volume in the NE happens on 95 and Merritt that there has to be a way to get footage for an investigation IMO as it would leave NYC totally vulnerable IMO and I don't see the govt allowing that to happen.

Just my POV but IMO there have to be license readers or cameras, or both on the major highways to keep NYC secure.

Big MOO!

 

[afitzy]

NP said he "acquired" the info about the tests. Perhaps from the divorce filings? Did JD list it as an expense that FD should be accountable for since he stopped paying the health insurance premiums?

My guess is that it was 'acquired' the same way the psych report was 'acquired'!

Still can't believe he wasn't called on his source by Judge or State?!! MOO

 

[afitzy]

Thanks. You have cleared up the issue for me. Makes me wonder even more why no contempt charges and why he didn't sit in jail until he complied with various court orders.

AMEN!!

 

[CTGrammy]

Thanks for pulling up the quote about ‘lab-reproductive’ coding as I remembered it being said but just couldn't go back and watch that sad showing yet again!

I wonder what ‘lab-reproductive’ coding means?

But to your point of 3 months of billing for tests I am not seeing these medical tests as some kind of "smoking gun" are you? But given that I am suspicious of No Case Norm motives it might make sense to think about where he might have been going on this fishing expedition. We don't know if the tests were called for by a single Dr or multiple Drs either? But even if they were from a single Dr it could have been a situation where a something came up in an initial test and DR/JD were retesting over time or making dietary or drug changes etc. This is all pure speculation as we just don't know.

I still though am concerned that neither the State nor the Judge asked the original source of the medical test information as if FD opened a letter addressed to JD that was sent to his house in error, I am not seeing that he has the legal right to this info to begin with. I am also concerned that he might have hacked JD personal email or online acct with insurance to gain information that he is not legally entited to.

I hope the GF has secured JD online accounts and email to protect from access by unauthorized parties. Hate to even have to think about the depths to which Pattis will dive but this might unfortunately get quite ugly if his first public investigative foray is to go after personal medical records. Ugh.


MOO

I wonder if the 'reproductive' coding was due to the fact that she may have been going through Menopause.

This, in of itself, would be reason enough for certain tests.

As for FD obtaining the document, I really think that the Lab may not have had JD's current address.

Doctors and Hospitals many times use an outside Lab and just because you change your address with the Doctor and the Hospital, it does not mean that the change of address was relayed to the Lab.

MOO

 

[CTGrammy]

Also, I still don't understand the lawyer for JD. I understand if a woman with children who doesn't have job skills wants and demands that her husband continue to pay health insurance. But that was not the case with JD. She had money. She must have explained to her lawyer what they were dealing with. If the lawyer was smart and not just interested in billable hours, he would have told her to forget about making FD pay for anything. All the wasted money and time on useless motions....losses just needed to be cut. GF could still pursue FD separately. JD lawyer should have told her not to ask for a single thing and just get custody taken care of. Because sometimes, when you lose, you really win. MOO

I do not think that JD Requested the Health Insurance.

Courts mandate in a Divorce, that certain things remain constant until the end of the divorce.

Therefore the Family Court Judge Mandated that whoever was currently providing the Health Insurance for the Family, to continue providing it until the divorce was final.

This very well could have been JD.

However, in this case, it happened to be FD.

FD had been paying the Premiums and therefore FD was Mandated to continue paying those Premiums.

MOO

 

[afitzy]

How would the court ever know if there is contact unless MT reported it? Even if they both had to get new phone numbers after the phones were taken, there is email. In the days of landlines, there is wiretapping. What tools would LE have nowadays to monitor communication on cell phones and by email? Even with a warrant? Any lawyer would tell their client not to write ANYTHING or say anything. It seems there would have to be cooperation by MT before LE would have access to anything.

I truly wonder about the whole ankle monitoring process and if anyone at the State has a handle on the situation with FD/MT and no contact?

You would think that both MT and FD have the bracelets and can be tracked with some level of precision. How hard can it be to track them both simultaneously for contact?

My fear is that MT and FD both have different parole officers and are handled by different monitoring staff too. Just seems like it could be highly likely that the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing IMO. If States Atty or State Police haven't set this monitoring up properly then it seems like there are clearly possible holes where a meeting between the two could happen.

MT and FD have lived in Farmington for 3 years and no doubt know each others routines, fav spots and shopping preferences. I don't think orchestrating a meet would be all that complex. I just wonder how long it might take the monitoring people to figure it out? If MT should be in fear for her life as some have suggested, it just takes one chance meeting and she is done.

We learned from an earlier post that the GPS signal is cell driven. Someone also posted about Avon Mt. having no cell coverage/signal. Who is to say that 2 people randomly hiking around doing happen to 'run into each other' on Avon Mt.?

You would think that LE would be on top of this issue but sometimes bureaucracy is such that things happen and sometimes with unpleasant consequences. IDK, I just don't share the Judges confidence that the bracelets are being tracked and that there is no contact between the 2. I wonder if the Judge or State Police have asked for weekly or even daily reports on the suspects too see that they are in compliance? Is the Judge following up with the State to make sure this is all happening? IDK.
MOO

 

[BellaVita]

I do not think that JD Requested the Health Insurance.

Courts mandate in a Divorce, that certain things remain constant until the end of the divorce.

Therefore the Family Court Judge Mandated that whoever was currently providing the Health Insurance for the Family, to continue providing it until the divorce was final.

This very well could have been JD.

However, in this case, it happened to be FD.

FD had been paying the Premiums and therefore FD was Mandated to continue paying those Premiums.

MOO

I understand the mandated part, unfortunately having been through it. My point is that for whatever reason, it was being discussed in the divorce proceedings. The quote from FD "let her pay out of pocket". So JD lawyer would have brought up the fact of FD no longer paying. I just feel that a good lawyer would have been truthful with JD about who she was dealing with...hopefully she already knew and advised her lawyer of that fact on their first meeting. I have said from the beginning, the lawyer was wrong on how this divorce was being handled. He was trying to WIN, when winning would have been getting the divorce over with as quickly as possible. WIN-NING in this case would have been to forget about asking FD to pay for anything or trying to enforce compliance through expensive and useless motions. IMO.

 

[Jmoose]

Thanks for pulling up the quote about ‘lab-reproductive’ coding as I remembered it being said but just couldn't go back and watch that sad showing yet again!

I wonder what ‘lab-reproductive’ coding means?

But to your point of 3 months of billing for tests I am not seeing these medical tests as some kind of "smoking gun" are you? But given that I am suspicious of No Case Norm motives it might make sense to think about where he might have been going on this fishing expedition. We don't know if the tests were called for by a single Dr or multiple Drs either? But even if they were from a single Dr it could have been a situation where a something came up in an initial test and DR/JD were retesting over time or making dietary or drug changes etc. This is all pure speculation as we just don't know.

I still though am concerned that neither the State nor the Judge asked the original source of the medical test information as if FD opened a letter addressed to JD that was sent to his house in error, I am not seeing that he has the legal right to this info to begin with. I am also concerned that he might have hacked JD personal email or online acct with insurance to gain information that he is not legally entited to.

I hope the GF has secured JD online accounts and email to protect from access by unauthorized parties. Hate to even have to think about the depths to which Pattis will dive but this might unfortunately get quite ugly if his first public investigative foray is to go after personal medical records. Ugh.


MOO

I wonder if “Lab-reproductive” is just code for the hormone levels they test to determine where in the menopause process a woman is? I don’t know if that is testing that women typically get, but I had quite a bit of similar testing because I have a pituitary adenoma and my dr kept track of where I was in the process of menopause in my mid 40’s.

 

[Midwestmom2019]

I truly wonder about the whole ankle monitoring process and if anyone at the State has a handle on the situation with FD/MT and no contact?

You would think that both MT and FD have the bracelets and can be tracked with some level of precision. How hard can it be to track them both simultaneously for contact?

My fear is that MT and FD both have different parole officers and are handled by different monitoring staff too. Just seems like it could be highly likely that the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing IMO. If States Atty or State Police haven't set this monitoring up properly then it seems like there are clearly possible holes where a meeting between the two could happen.

MT and FD have lived in Farmington for 3 years and no doubt know each others routines, fav spots and shopping preferences. I don't think orchestrating a meet would be all that complex. I just wonder how long it might take the monitoring people to figure it out? If MT should be in fear for her life as some have suggested, it just takes one chance meeting and she is done.

We learned from an earlier post that the GPS signal is cell driven. Someone also posted about Avon Mt. having no cell coverage/signal. Who is to say that 2 people randomly hiking around doing happen to 'run into each other' on Avon Mt.?

You would think that LE would be on top of this issue but sometimes bureaucracy is such that things happen and sometimes with unpleasant consequences. IDK, I just don't share the Judges confidence that the bracelets are being tracked and that there is no contact between the 2. I wonder if the Judge or State Police have asked for weekly or even daily reports on the suspects too see that they are in compliance? Is the Judge following up with the State to make sure this is all happening? IDK.
MOO

Following your thought processes here are clear and very concerning. And most likely true.
My only answer is that everyone knows about these two, what they look like, what they’re driving. The chances of them being spotted together would make 911 calls jam police phone lines. That’s assuming MT wants contact. She’s doing what she’s supposed to be doing. Laying low. No interviews. She wants to live outside prison walls and she knows FD will be put away forever. If she has any sense in her head, she’s choosing free life over caged living. MOO.

 

[Curious in CT]

Ohmigoodness. This image is from yesterday's Hartford Courant feature. Remarkable how FD has aged in the past six weeks.

 

[MsJosie]

Totally agree! Pattis overstepped himself IMO when he attempted to 'school' the Judge and rudely interrupted the Judge at least 3 times.

We will see how this in courtroom dynamic works out. This Judge has a solid history on the bench and I don't believe for a moment he is cowed by Pattis. Its very early days. My sense from listening to the Judge talk in general terms about the gag order that he will go his own way with things and he has a good BS meter too and is seeing that Pattis has been drawing his stories to the press "way outside the lines" and "out of bounds" as the States Atty pointed out yesterday.

One of the more interesting points made by Pattis (huge error I thought!) was Pattis pitiful comment to the Judge about FD hiring his own PR firm to put his story out to the Press if the Judge placed the gag order in place. I don't think you would need to have gone to law school to realize that going around a court order via a PR firm would be problematic and grounds for sanctions. Even the Judge said that this PR firm idea would be a bad idea and even then Pattis never backed down and said I agree Judge it was a bad idea and I said it in a moment of anger.

But perhaps its this thinking and advice from Pattis that got FD in trouble in the KW case? Wonder if Pattis said to FD, "...do whatever you think is necessary to make this problem person go away...", even it meant circumventing KM no contact order with his STBX? Sometimes the things Pattis says either don't make sense or fly in the face of the law in ways that even a layman can detect IMO.

This has me scratching my head as I wonder if he really is doing any good for FD or is he simply sinking him further into the muck?

I see an issue for appeal....or at least FD will try.

 

[Curious in CT]

Also, I still don't understand the lawyer for JD. I understand if a woman with children who doesn't have job skills wants and demands that her husband continue to pay health insurance. But that was not the case with JD. She had money. She must have explained to her lawyer what they were dealing with. If the lawyer was smart and not just interested in billable hours, he would have told her to forget about making FD pay for anything. All the wasted money and time on useless motions....losses just needed to be cut. GF could still pursue FD separately. JD lawyer should have told her not to ask for a single thing and just get custody taken care of. Because sometimes, when you lose, you really win. MOO

I do think there was value in getting it on paper and in the courts that FD was a deadbeat parent. Speaks to character. IM completely non-professional O, of course!

 

[CTGrammy]

I understand the mandated part, unfortunately having been through it. My point is that for whatever reason, it was being discussed in the divorce proceedings. The quote from FD "let her pay out of pocket". So JD lawyer would have brought up the fact of FD no longer paying. I just feel that a good lawyer would have been truthful with JD about who she was dealing with...hopefully she already knew and advised her lawyer of that fact on their first meeting. I have said from the beginning, the lawyer was wrong on how this divorce was being handled. He was trying to WIN, when winning would have been getting the divorce over with as quickly as possible. WIN-NING in this case would have been to forget about asking FD to pay for anything or trying to enforce compliance through expensive and useless motions. IMO.

However, JD did not have a choice in the mandate for FD to continue paying the premiums and FD did in fact pay for several months at the beginning of the divorce.

Because FD was making those payments, there was no way for JD to have known that he would then stop making the payments until she took a child to the doctor.

IMO, she Did start either paying the premiums herself or she purchased other options.

However, it was JD's duty to Report FD's lack of following mandates set out by the court.

There is No way that JD would have allowed her children to be without coverage and then she Definitely provided it herself.

There is No way that JD was saying in court 'oh, poor me, the children do not have insurance, what are we going to do?'.

No, in fact, JD only used the non payment of the premiums by FD as an example to the Court, of what kind of person FD is proving to be.

JD was Not demanding that FD reinstate the Family Health Care Coverage.

Yes, JD's Attorney did say that JD could not take the children to their appointments, but IMO this attorney was saying this for the affect it would have in the Court and not that JD could not provide the insurance herself.

MOO MOO

 

[BellaVita]

I do think there was value in getting it on paper and in the courts that FD was a deadbeat parent. Speaks to character. IM completely non-professional O, of course!

I don't think it would be hard to document the non-payment of premiums. I don't think it needed to be litigated to make it part of the record. Same with financial disclosure. JD lawyer was getting nowhere. They can't win if you don't play. Sometimes you just have to realize it is futile to expect anything and let it go. IMO

 

[CTGrammy]

My guess is that it was 'acquired' the same way the psych report was 'acquired'!

Still can't believe he wasn't called on his source by Judge or State?!! MOO

He will be.

The judge is not going to let that document be introduced in court.

MOO

 

[CTGrammy]

I don't think it would be hard to document the non-payment of premiums. I don't think it needed to be litigated to make it part of the record. Same with financial disclosure. JD lawyer was getting nowhere. They can't win if you don't play. Sometimes you just have to realize it is futile to expect anything and let it go. IMO

IMO, It was Imperative that JD Report FD for Non Compliance of a Court Order.

JD was trying to prove Why she should receive sole custody of the children.

The fact that FD Chose to stop providing for his children Proves Why JD should have sole custody of the children.

FD was a Deadbeat Dad and that is what JD was Proving when she Reported the non compliance.

Does anyone know if JD requested Child Support or was awarded Child Support?

If not, then I highly doubt that she requested Health Care Coverage either.

With a MOO MOO here and a MOO MOO there.