Silver Alert CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #17

[Deleted member 229974]

I may try it, but I don’t love using gloves (unless there is poison ivy)

Hmmm, didn’t Fotis have poison Ivy when he was first arrested? Nail fungus takes time to show up.

 

[afitzy]

After reading your post, it occurred to me to wonder how many roads may have plate readers that aren’t also toll-assessors. There are some toll roads around, but between NC and Farmington, it isn’t likely that FD would have taken one. But maybe some roads could have plate readers for crime prevention purposes? I am so not up on these things, and wonder if such a thing is present, and FD wanted to avoid the detection of EE’s truck plates. Just thinking out loud...

Yes, privacy advocates have been pulling their hair out about these isses and technology in the hands of local LE that might have limited oversight or even comprehensive understanding of what the data could do in the wrong hands. I have zero idea what all is in the hands of the local police in Fairfield County but issues with license scanners have popped up in a few towns. Sharing this information publicly is a tough thing too as LE is working hard to keep the public safe. But NC as a town has long had strong privacy advocates in govt. so I wonder if now this issue of public safety might not get paid more than lip service by govt officials? IDK.

I've been watching the local discussion of even putting cameras in Waveny Park and at least on the surface it looks like a public game of hot potato between Parks and Rec and NCPD so far which is so disappointing. Hope I'm wrong and something is done at Waveny, but I'm not sure the political will exists to do much on the issue of cameras in NC from the First Selectman on down.

My guess is that the politicans are simply waiting for the JD case publicity to die down and people to continue to feel safe and then it will be easy to do what sadly seems to usually happen which is nothing.

I hope I'm wrong, but I've watched these discussions happen for years with zero results. If the Town would at least fix the perimeter fencing along the Merritt to prevent access from there or provide solar lighting or panic buttons on remote paths (similar to what you see on college campuses) it would be a step in the right direction.

But so far at least its the usual, same old, same old.

MOO

 

[Deleted member 229974]

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“Just waiting to hear what
NP wants to try next.”

OMG....lmao! I was just thinking how much he looks like a chimpanzee on cocaine. Not a good look for him at all.

 

[CTGrammy]

You are totally on point I think. I would honestly like to see the State call both Pattis and FD on this so called smoking gun medical evidence and ask these 2 clowns in suits to produce the envelope that the the invoice arrived in. By doing this it would short circuit all the nonsense going on here and end the discussion and speculation.

But I have to wonder, yet again, why would No Case Norm go to the mat with a medical invoice that was addressed to JD individually (if this is in fact how its addressed)?

Would he be so profoundly legally stupid and irresponsible.

Sorry, don't answer that! Sorry I asked (not sorry)

MOO

I doubt the court would actually need the envelope.

Most of these types of documents have it set up for the name and address to be read through the window of an envelope.

Therefore, the document should have JD's name on the document and NOT FD's.

MOO

 

[BellaVita]

Actually, FD would have received the letter of termination.

FD was paying the premiums and the letter would have gone to the person paying the premiums and his domicile is 4JC.

The Divorce was more than likely, all but finalized.

However, what about custody of the children During the divorce and After the divorce?

The issue was that JD was Fighting for Full Physical Custody of the children During and After the divorce.

If JD waited Months (or years) until the divorce Trial to bring up the point that FD dropped the family healthcare against a court order, then FD's attorney will say 'Well, that is obviously not a problem since JD waited Months (or years) to report the non compliance'.

My best friend went through a very acrimonious divorce with several children involved.

It is Very Imperative to Report Everything as it happens or the other person/attorney will just say that the issue is of no importance since she waited soooo long to make the report to the court.

IMO, JD had top notch attorneys for Family Court and they certainly have experience in Family Court.

The reporting of the issue was not about getting FD to abide by the Court Ordered Mandates.

The reporting of the issue was about showing the Judge that FD was a deadbeat dad and therefore show why JD should continue to have sole physical custody of the children.

If JD never brought any issue to court, then the Judge would have had no choice but to give FD full access to the children.

Who knows where the children would be if FD had full unrestricted access to the children.

Greece? To Never return?

JD would never have seen her children again.

FD threatened this very thing, on more than one occasion.

FD has that friend with a plane, that does not have to file a flight plan, and no passports needed.

JD Needed to prove why the children should be in Her sole physical custody During and After the divorce.

FD is the Only issue causing the divorce to go on for so long.

Had FD just complied with court orders, the divorce and child custody would not have continued for over 2 years.

IME, I received a letter of termination from the health plan with an offer of COBRA. I was not the Primary.

 

[DetectiveFoyleWannabe]

Narcissists do not feel stress.

They just get angry when things don't go their way and they cannot understand whey things don't go their way.

You can see the anger in his body language whenever they talk about GF. If you look closely you can see his heart racing and neck veins start popping when she comes up. I question people for a living so I look out for that kinda stuff. Just want LE to get this guy so badly.

 

[afitzy]

I continue to think about the topics of narcissism and narcopaths relative what we continue to see played out in this very tragic case. MOO

Someone sent the following articles to me via PM so I'm sharing them:

Narcissists Are Sick, Stressed, and Insecure

Are You Dealing With a Malignant Narcissist?

How Narcissists Respond When Things Don’t Go Their Way

Narcissistic Men May Pay With Their Health

 

[citygirl]

Yes! Totally shocking to see what appears to be a shell shocked FD. You have to wonder though, what did he expect would happen? Tradespeople wouldn't jump on the bandwagon and sue?

To see him holding those documents too after being served just has me thinking that things will just start to get interesting soon with all the civil litigation. I wonder how long FORE can remain as it hasn't seemed like a going concern for quite awhile.

How much can a single individual sustain in terms of stress?

I'm not saying this from the standpoint of having sympathy for FD personally, as I think he created the entire situation that he finds himself if today and is sitting in precisely the spot that he deserves to be in legally, given everything that has happened to the business and him personally.

But the stress has to be unreal. He is living in a house he 1/2 owns which I believe is in foreclosure so who knows how long he will have a roof over his head, his legal bills have to be astronomical, hindering/tampering could put him away for 10+ years, murder or manslaughter charge/s could drop any day with potential for 20+ yrs to life, operating expenses for FORE houses are real and ongoing and he needs cash for living expenses with no visible income for nearly 2 years.

Not sure when/if any of the houses will sell but even with the nearly $500,000 price cut on Sturbridge in NC, its still on the market. I'm not sure how this situation can be sustained either from a personal standpoint as the tampering/hindering case is moving slowly along. I also wonder how long Pattis will stay if he is gagged by Judge as what is the point of working pro bono if you can't be out in the press all day long as he appears to love doing. Huge question mark in my mind about Pattis. Not sure how comfy I would feel about having a PD for counsel with murder charges pending?!?

But, he probably is simply feeling anger about being victimized and not thinking of JD, his children or any of the other people that are waiting for their checks to show up for work they did in good faith on his FORE houses.

MOO

This is such a great post.
I watched the hearing again today. Norm looked worried and worn out.
Seemed he was flying by the seat of his pants. Repetitive charges. Gone Girl, KM etc.
Talked about JD's blouse? Not her t shirt.
Blustering about fighting what is leaked to the press. At one point I thought he even said what LE has said to him? Maybe I read that wrong? ( around 30 to 32 mins in)
He tried and tried hard. IMO, the judge appeased him. Doesn't mean he will rule in his favor.
FD is a trapped man. He worked overtime to maintain his cool. My guess is his BP and adrenaline level were off the charts. Really wonder if he is even able to absorb what is said as his mind is racing.
IMO, Fore is no longer and his world is crumbling. Clearly, he must be getting money from Greece just to maintain his activities of daily living.
And receiving those summons on the way into court was a double whammy.
His days are spent looking over his shoulder waiting for the other shoe to drop. That would be the BIG shoe.
One pearl that the PT dropped today?
We have evidence from the truck and evidence from the electronics that we haven't disclosed.
Sorry for the long posts. Never been my style but you wizards force me to do it.

 

[MsJosie]

Actually, FD would have received the letter of termination.

FD was paying the premiums and the letter would have gone to the person paying the premiums and his domicile is 4JC.

The Divorce was more than likely, all but finalized.

However, what about custody of the children During the divorce and After the divorce?

The issue was that JD was Fighting for Full Physical Custody of the children During and After the divorce.

If JD waited Months (or years) until the divorce Trial to bring up the point that FD dropped the family healthcare against a court order, then FD's attorney will say 'Well, that is obviously not a problem since JD waited Months (or years) to report the non compliance'.

My best friend went through a very acrimonious divorce with several children involved.

It is Very Imperative to Report Everything as it happens or the other person/attorney will just say that the issue is of no importance since she waited soooo long to make the report to the court.

IMO, JD had top notch attorneys for Family Court and they certainly have experience in Family Court.

The reporting of the issue was not about getting FD to abide by the Court Ordered Mandates.

The reporting of the issue was about showing the Judge that FD was a deadbeat dad and therefore show why JD should continue to have sole physical custody of the children.

If JD never brought any issue to court, then the Judge would have had no choice but to give FD full access to the children.

Who knows where the children would be if FD had full unrestricted access to the children.

Greece? To Never return?

JD would never have seen her children again.

FD threatened this very thing, on more than one occasion.

FD has that friend with a plane, that does not have to file a flight plan, and no passports needed.

JD Needed to prove why the children should be in Her sole physical custody During and After the divorce.

FD is the Only issue causing the divorce to go on for so long.

Had FD just complied with court orders, the divorce and child custody would not have continued for over 2 years.

MOO MOO

Added:

On a side note -- There are No extradition treaties for non criminals or non accused criminals.

In other words, any country out there would not be forced, by a treaty with the US, to return the children to the US.

Assuming they could find the children first.

MOO MOO

I did not realize FD had a friend with a plane...needs no flight plan or passport. Would this plane or is it a private jet, make it to Greece?

Now I real feel as time goes on and more info is discovered FD will try to flee. He will not take the kids, too cumbersome to move, hide, and support them. In fact taking them would only burn up his supposed hidden monies in Greece. I just think he will save his own hide.

Time will tell.

Thanks everyone for all the updates, ideas, opinions, and facts.

 

[citygirl]

Another thing I noted was Norm went out of bounds with what was done in chambers. Someone said that's where all the good stuff happens that we are not privy to. Colangelo called him out on it. Called it a back slap. Evidently Norm agreed behind the scenes that the cell phone extraction would take time but still brought it up in open court. Colangelo said he doesn't yet have the extraction info. Claims he doesn't know.
I know it's not a popular stance but I get where NP is coming from, in a sense. Not that I think he is justified. He is fighting an uphill battle right now.
IMO, he knows his client is guilty despite what he says.
I think the judge knows, too.
MOO MOO MOO.
XOXO Elsie.

 

[soccy]

I did not realize FD had a friend with a plane...needs no flight plan or passport. Would this plane or is it a private jet, make it to Greece?

Now I real feel as time goes on and more info is discovered FD will try to flee. He will not take the kids, too cumbersome to move, hide, and support them. In fact taking them would only burn up his supposed hidden monies in Greece. I just think he will save his own hide.

Time will tell.

Thanks everyone for all the updates, ideas, opinions, and facts.

I didn't realize about the extradition of non-criminals. It makes sense that he wants to get everything dismissed so he can take off with the kids. If that is the case, he must have money stashed in some off-shore location.

 

[soccy]

I think LE did get into those phones from a third party service. It was a big uproar. MOO as I didn’t include the link.

FYI: Wired published this article about pulling information off of iPhones.
DESPITE APPLE'S PRIVACY PLEDGE, COPS CAN STILL PULL DATA OFF A LOCKED IPHONE
Despite Apple's Privacy Pledge, Cops Can Still Pull Data Off a Locked iPhone

 

[soccy]

OMG....lmao! I was just thinking how much he looks like a chimpanzee on cocaine. Not a good look for him at all.

He really does look like he is on something.

 

[CTGrammy]

This is such a great post.
I watched the hearing again today. Norm looked worried and worn out.
Seemed he was flying by the seat of his pants. Repetitive charges. Gone Girl, KM etc.
Talked about JD's blouse? Not her t shirt.
Blustering about fighting what is leaked to the press. At one point I thought he even said what LE has said to him? Maybe I read that wrong? ( around 30 to 32 mins in)
He tried and tried hard. IMO, the judge appeased him. Doesn't mean he will rule in his favor.
FD is a trapped man. He worked overtime to maintain his cool. My guess is his BP and adrenaline level were off the charts. Really wonder if he is even able to absorb what is said as his mind is racing.
IMO, Fore is no longer and his world is crumbling. Clearly, he must be getting money from Greece just to maintain his activities of daily living.
And receiving those summons on the way into court was a double whammy.
His days are spent looking over his shoulder waiting for the other shoe to drop. That would be the BIG shoe.
One pearl that the PT dropped today?
We have evidence from the truck and evidence from the electronics that we haven't disclosed.
Sorry for the long posts. Never been my style but you wizards force me to do it.

Great Job.

Let us not forget that we also learned that MT did NOT take a polygraph test and therefore she could not have Passed one.

 

[CTGrammy]

I did not realize FD had a friend with a plane...needs no flight plan or passport. Would this plane or is it a private jet, make it to Greece?

Now I real feel as time goes on and more info is discovered FD will try to flee. He will not take the kids, too cumbersome to move, hide, and support them. In fact taking them would only burn up his supposed hidden monies in Greece. I just think he will save his own hide.

Time will tell.

Thanks everyone for all the updates, ideas, opinions, and facts.

IIRC, it is a private jet and therefore it would make it to Greece or another country overseas, easily.

MOO

 

[Tink56]

This is such a great post.
I watched the hearing again today. Norm looked worried and worn out.
Seemed he was flying by the seat of his pants. Repetitive charges. Gone Girl, KM etc.
Talked about JD's blouse? Not her t shirt.
Blustering about fighting what is leaked to the press. At one point I thought he even said what LE has said to him? Maybe I read that wrong? ( around 30 to 32 mins in)
He tried and tried hard. IMO, the judge appeased him. Doesn't mean he will rule in his favor.
FD is a trapped man. He worked overtime to maintain his cool. My guess is his BP and adrenaline level were off the charts. Really wonder if he is even able to absorb what is said as his mind is racing.
IMO, Fore is no longer and his world is crumbling. Clearly, he must be getting money from Greece just to maintain his activities of daily living.
And receiving those summons on the way into court was a double whammy.
His days are spent looking over his shoulder waiting for the other shoe to drop. That would be the BIG shoe.
One pearl that the PT dropped today?
We have evidence from the truck and evidence from the electronics that we haven't disclosed.
Sorry for the long posts. Never been my style but you wizards force me to do it.

Great Post! Thanks...

I also noted when the State's Attorney dropped the comments about the evidence in the truck and the electronics....Interesting that at the end NP tried to sneak a order to suppress the electronic information.....

Loved how incredulous FD was that it might be inappropriate for his sister and other relatives to convey his love to his children....probably his innocence, too!

 

[Jmoose]

You can see the anger in his body language whenever they talk about GF. If you look closely you can see his heart racing and neck veins start popping when she comes up. I question people for a living so I look out for that kinda stuff. Just want LE to get this guy so badly.

I think GF was part of his focus in killing JD; sort of like “look at what YOU made me do, by your actions-now you can mourn your daughter until you die”; I think his anger towards JD might have almost been peripheral to that of his anger towards GF. And that is why you can see his rage appearing when they talked in court yesterday about GF not wanting his relatives and friends trying to contact HIS children. He is infuriated that she has those kids and he has no control over them.

 

[thekirbyfamily]

Great Job.

Let us not forget that we also learned that MT did NOT take a polygraph test and therefore she could not have Passed one.

And so did she even return a purse and is she seen on CCTV in the store or are those musings solely from the world of Pattis too? Moo.

 

[citygirl]

Great Post! Thanks...

I also noted when the State's Attorney dropped the comments about the evidence in the truck and the electronics....Interesting that at the end NP tried to sneak a order to suppress the electronic information.....

Loved how incredulous FD was that it might be inappropriate for his sister and other relatives to convey his love to his children....probably his innocence, too!

Indeed he did. Has been saying since day one that LE had no warrant to confiscate his phone. That it was essentially a theft. However, FD allegedly handed it over willingly. Need the legal eagles to weigh in on this.
Yes, I saw FD's raised eyebrows. Clearly he doesn't understand, nor doesn't care that his siblings can't talk to his children. I even question how close they are to his children? GF has it all in hand, IMO. Smart woman with smart lawyers and armed guards. An elderly, grieving mother with money and moxie and the fortitude to carry on. God bless her. MOO.

 

[BellaVita]

I think GF was part of his focus in killing JD; sort of like “look at what YOU made me do, by your actions-now you can mourn your daughter until you die”; I think his anger towards JD might have almost been peripheral to that of his anger towards GF. And that is why you can see his rage appearing when they talked in court yesterday about GF not wanting his relatives and friends trying to contact HIS children. He is infuriated that she has those kids and he has no control over them.

The hurting of GF was icing on the cake. Much like CA wanted to hurt Cindy. He cannot fathom that GF got the upper hand, that the police acted so quickly. Loss of control is what these people fear the most. So vile.