Silver Alert CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #19

[afitzy]

Lawyer for Fotis Dulos says prosecutors are ‘desperate’ to link his client to Jennifer Dulos’ disappearance and are ignoring other possible leads


Pattis’ motion seeking an emergency order to compel prosecutors to turn over evidence said investigators interviewed colleagues of Dulos at his luxury home building business, The Fore Group, Monday evening in an effort “to implicate Mr. Dulos in the disappearance of his wife, even asking the employee to speculate on where Ms. Dulos’ body might be, an invitation the witness refused. The state seems desperate to develop an accomplice in the case, rather than refocusing its effort on trying to build a case based on available evidence.”
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My question - I wonder what "Monday evening" this took place? Could it be just recently??

ETA: And it mentions accomplice? Maybe FD is going to say MT did it and MT is going to say FD did it, or maybe the State thinks there is a 3rd person involved and that's what "accomplice" Norm is talking about? Thoughts?

Oh my!

Looks like things are getting a bit tense and they are in a total panic in Pattisville based on the HC article posted above!

Cannot wait to read the entire five page motion tomorrow!

The HC article posted above did have the following nugget of pure Pattis gold which put me on the edge of my seat waiting for what other nuggets are in the rest of the document!

“The defendant should not be compelled to fiddle in the bright light of public scorn while the state wastes time and resources in the futile effort to place him at the scene of a crime he didn’t commit,” Pattis wrote. [BBM]

Pattis IMO must have been pounding tequila shots with FO at the marble island counter at 4Jx IMO when he wrote the above as it is over the top dramatic. I was going to search for the movie that line came from (convinced I've heard it before) but its simply not worth the effort IMO.

Pattis IMO now risks being seen as hysterical toddler having a temper tantrum in the supermarket as he is screaming to anyone that will listen that he DEMANDS the MT testimony transcript along with whatever other half baked items on his list he believes he is entitled to based strictly on his schedule.

Entitled to me is such a key word in this case as IMO we have an overly entitled client FO and his counsel that is simply beyond overly entitled. Shoutout to No Case Norm, sorry but you will simply have to wait and sadly your client will have to endure the 'bright lights' shining for the justice process to work. If you and your client are feeling overly anxious then by all means pop a xanax and chill! Public Service Notice: But please don't mix the xanax and the tequila as we look forward to your dramatic court appearances!

So Pattis is angry that FO is 'compelled to fiddle in the bright light of public scorn'? Guess so. But it seems like that is par for the course when you are accused of a very serious crime such as tampering/hindering that could most likely be tied to a murder. If you are uncomfortable with 'bright lights', IMO the best way to avoid them is to not commit multiple crimes and be seen on one of the best CCTV city setups in the US dumping evidence with your accomplice MT. Is Pattis saying that the public should feel sorry for the 'bright lights' shining on the bald head and beady eyes of FO? Guess so. By the time he was asking for public sympathy in his motion, Pattis and FO must have had 4 shots because honestly who would expect sympathy for anyone that has been accused of these crimes? Based on all that is now out and public about FO, IMO he was being generous in describing himself as a 'monster'!

Again, no words from Pattisville for missing mother JD. Again, no words from Pattisville about the 5 children without a mother who are no doubt either back in school or heading back to school soon. Nope. The Pattis legal team so far has demonstrated the emotional intelligence of a stone IMO.

Pattis wants the public to be concerned that a light is shining on his client FO. All I can say to this is THANK GOD that the light is on and shining brightly on both Pattis AND his client.

I seriously question the basic intelligence behind Pattis chastising the State for spending money on the investiation and prosecution or make claims about the State wasting time and resources in the investigation of a missing mother of 5 young children. The public is vested in seeking justice in this case so to try to drum up opposition to the cost involved is ludacris IMO. The people of CT have been conditioned to seeing vast waste in Hartford for years so $1 million or so for the JD investigation is a drop in the bucket IMO! The Pattis feeble attempts to bait the State and Atty Bowman are frankly getting old and boring, really old and really boring....


MOO MOO MOO

 

[afitzy]

When you think about it, he never really did support those kids-I think whatever little he actually earned, probably left the country, or he spent it on himself.

IMO he did make money and I agree with you that it left the US for places unknown. But I also suspect that he skimmed JD money too as she had trust income of nearly $400,000/yr. While I hope she was smart to only contribute to a household account, my guess is that unfortunately she might have trusted FO with all her income, until she didn't!

I keep thinking about the friend of JD that disclosed that she had been writing a story/book about her life/marriage. FD in his testimony in Family court was so dismissive of JD writing and her 'writing room' that IMO he would be enraged with an expose type story hitting the public. Wonder if this book ever sees the light of day? I'd certainly love to read it! What JD experienced at the hands of a narcopath like FO must have been horrific and so I am glad she found some peace in her craft of writing as there musn't have been much peace living with FO IMO.

Can you imagine how JD felt as a single parent home with 5 small children in Farmington while FO travels 10 days a month for 'personal travel' most likely using JD money to do so and watching while he conducts multiple affairs over time before 'finding' MT? Can you say GIGOLO? It said alot about JD in terms of patience and forgiveness IMO that it took FO saying that MT and her daughter were moving into 4Jx before she hit the eject button on the marriage after 12 years of a gradual descent into HELL with FO.

MOO

 

[Southernsnooper]

So, basically Norm and FD want to know where the State says FD was on whatever particular day and what time, so then Norm and FD can say FD was somewhere else that particular day and time. Geesh, the "perfect his alibi" says it all, doesn't it?! <shaking my head with eye roll>

Exactly! Lol! It’s sad his alibi is MT’s word.

Also, NP said LE was questioning a former FORE employee on Monday. Hmmm. Sounds like the employee is still friendly with FD for NP to know that unless it was the PI sharing info.

I wonder what LE meant when they said that the MIRA search was worth it.

If they have something significant, why not arrest him? Surely they have something?!!!

I’m trying to remain optimistic but when they know the children’s welfare is at stake, it makes me question why they wouldn’t arrest him so custody wouldn’t be an issue any longer.

I know they want the body but it’s time they arrest him and the body will be found eventually, sadly.

MOO

 

[CTGrammy]

Agree that there is more going on that we cannot even imagine!

But take a look at the face of FO over time as he does look different:

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Sources: FD FB, NYP, Stamford Advocate

MOO

Don't forget This picture from the Home Living section of the Hartford Magazine in April of 2011.

 

[afitzy]

Exactly! Lol! It’s sad his alibi is MT’s word.

Also, NP said LE was questioning a former FORE employee on Monday. Hmmm. Sounds like the employee is still friendly with FD for NP to know that unless it was the PI sharing info.

I wonder what LE meant when they said that the MIRA search was worth it.

If they have something significant, why not arrest him? Surely they have something?!!!

I’m trying to remain optimistic but when they know the children’s welfare is at stake, it makes me question why they wouldn’t arrest him so custody wouldn’t be an issue any longer.

I know they want the body but it’s time they arrest him and the body will be found eventually, sadly.

MOO

Loved this!

Not sure how comfy I would feel if my alibi is a bright light solid upstanding moral and ethical non-citizen like MT! I would be quaking in my Seal protector boots if what stood between me and 20 to life in prison for murder is MT. But I guess Pattis has to work with the bad hand of cards he has been dealt and he is simply trying to make it work IMO!

Wonder which of the former FORE folks was at 4Jx? SR (he wrote one of the letter GF used in the civil case)? GV? KM? Wonder if he got the whole crew together and got MT in on Skype for a guest appearance and toast with the boys!

I very sadly don't believe a body exists and perhaps that is why MIRA was worth it for LE? We just don't know unfortunately.

MOO

 

[Myvice]

Exactly! Lol! It’s sad his alibi is MT’s word.

Also, NP said LE was questioning a former FORE employee on Monday. Hmmm. Sounds like the employee is still friendly with FD for NP to know that unless it was the PI sharing info.

I wonder what LE meant when they said that the MIRA search was worth it.

If they have something significant, why not arrest him? Surely they have something?!!!

I’m trying to remain optimistic but when they know the children’s welfare is at stake, it makes me question why they wouldn’t arrest him so custody wouldn’t be an issue any longer.

I know they want the body but it’s time they arrest him and the body will be found eventually, sadly.

MOO

IMO, the custody battle is only beginning. I don't think there is a reason to panic yet.

I can't imagine the court giving custody to a parent that, as of now, is not even allowed to speak to his children.

Pattis just wants to rile everyone because he wants to try to push the state to see what evidence they have.

I'm personally glad the state isn't taking the bait. The state holds all the cards and they know it. I think it's great to see Pattis panic!

 

[Ruminations]

Lawyer for Fotis Dulos says prosecutors are 'desperate’ to link his client to Jennifer Dulos’ disappearance and are ignoring other possible leads

Really? Which is it—- the state is not giving you the info to “perfect” the alibi for the crime your client has not been charged with or you know so much about the state’s evidence and investigation that you are in a position to evaluate it? Because it can’t be both. That’s not MOO. That’s thinking straight.

 

[citygirl]

Oh my!

Looks like things are getting a bit tense and they are in a total panic in Pattisville based on the HC article posted above!

Cannot wait to read the entire five page motion tomorrow!

The HC article posted above did have the following nugget of pure Pattis gold which put me on the edge of my seat waiting for what other nuggets are in the rest of the document!

“The defendant should not be compelled to fiddle in the bright light of public scorn while the state wastes time and resources in the futile effort to place him at the scene of a crime he didn’t commit,” Pattis wrote. [BBM]

Pattis IMO must have been pounding tequila shots with FO at the marble island counter at 4Jx IMO when he wrote the above as it is over the top dramatic. I was going to search for the movie that line came from (convinced I've heard it before) but its simply not worth the effort IMO.

Pattis IMO now risks being seen as hysterical toddler having a temper tantrum in the supermarket as he is screaming to anyone that will listen that he DEMANDS the MT testimony transcript along with whatever other half baked items on his list he believes he is entitled to based strictly on his schedule.

Entitled to me is such a key word in this case as IMO we have an overly entitled client FO and his counsel that is simply beyond overly entitled. Shoutout to No Case Norm, sorry but you will simply have to wait and sadly your client will have to endure the 'bright lights' shining for the justice process to work. If you and your client are feeling overly anxious then by all means pop a xanax and chill! Public Service Notice: But please don't mix the xanax and the tequila as we look forward to your dramatic court appearances!

So Pattis is angry that FO is 'compelled to fiddle in the bright light of public scorn'? Guess so. But it seems like that is par for the course when you are accused of a very serious crime such as tampering/hindering that could most likely be tied to a murder. If you are uncomfortable with 'bright lights', IMO the best way to avoid them is to not commit multiple crimes and be seen on one of the best CCTV city setups in the US dumping evidence with your accomplice MT. Is Pattis saying that the public should feel sorry for the 'bright lights' shining on the bald head and beady eyes of FO? Guess so. By the time he was asking for public sympathy in his motion, Pattis and FO must have had 4 shots because honestly who would expect sympathy for anyone that has been accused of these crimes? Based on all that is now out and public about FO, IMO he was being generous in describing himself as a 'monster'!

Again, no words from Pattisville for missing mother JD. Again, no words from Pattisville about the 5 children without a mother who are no doubt either back in school or heading back to school soon. Nope. The Pattis legal team so far has demonstrated the emotional intelligence of a stone IMO.

Pattis wants the public to be concerned that a light is shining on his client FO. All I can say to this is THANK GOD that the light is on and shining brightly on both Pattis AND his client.

I seriously question the basic intelligence behind Pattis chastising the State for spending money on the investiation and prosecution or make claims about the State wasting time and resources in the investigation of a missing mother of 5 young children. The public is vested in seeking justice in this case so to try to drum up opposition to the cost involved is ludacris IMO. The Pattis feeble attempts to bait the State and Atty Bowman are frankly getting old and boring, really old and really boring....


MOO MOO MOO

Great post! Thanks for this nugget from HC.
Hit the paywall and clearing cookies is a total pain and not worth it to me.

 

[citygirl]

IMO he did make money and I agree with you that it left the US for places unknown. But I also suspect that he skimmed JD money too as she had trust income of nearly $400,000/yr. While I hope she was smart to only contribute to a household account, my guess is that unfortunately she might have trusted FO with all her income, until she didn't!

I keep thinking about the friend of JD that disclosed that she had been writing a story/book about her life/marriage. FD in his testimony in Family court was so dismissive of JD writing and her 'writing room' that IMO he would be enraged with an expose type story hitting the public. Wonder if this book ever sees the light of day? I'd certainly love to read it! What JD experienced at the hands of a narcopath like FO must have been horrific and so I am glad she found some peace in her craft of writing as there musn't have been much peace living with FO IMO.

Can you imagine how JD felt as a single parent home with 5 small children in Farmington while FO travels 10 days a month for 'personal travel' most likely using JD money to do so and watching while he conducts multiple affairs over time before 'finding' MT? Can you say GIGOLO? It said alot about JD in terms of patience and forgiveness IMO that it took FO saying that MT and her daughter were moving into 4Jx before she hit the eject button on the marriage after 12 years of a gradual descent into HELL with FO.

MOO

You have mentioned this before, that FD had multiple affairs before he settled on MT. This is the first I am aware of this. Have I missed this in the past threads?

 

[afitzy]

You have mentioned this before, that FD had multiple affairs before he settled on MT. This is the first I am aware of this. Have I missed this in the past threads?

It was in an early NYP article I believe based on a quote from a friend of JD. The article posted over the past couple of days from Providence also referred to FO 'past' as well I believe. Don't think monogomy is in FO DNA. MOO

 

[afitzy]

Wasn't sure if the SA article about Pattis motion had been posted here:
Dulos case: Defense seeks state evidence with emergency order

 

[CTGrammy]

Farber v. Dulos
200.00 08/27/2019 P MOTION FOR ORDER

OF INSPECTION
http://civilinquiry.jud.ct.gov/DocumentInquiry/DocumentInquiry.aspx?DocumentNo=17625386

They want a forensic accounting to find out how someone with no construction accounts who has defaulted on two mortgages can afford several lawyers and P.I.

They want to know how someone who hasn’t paid a dime of child support and has no income can support children.

Since FDs atty claims the pending criminal charges is destroying FDs reputation and standing in the community. GF has the right to investigate all issues affecting his financial condition.

OMG.

Can you imagine FO in Court saying.......

"But, but, your Honor, that 1.7 million I claimed as 'OWED' to HF on my Tax Return, was a GIFT from HF."

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!

Either way, FO is Toast.

IF, the 1.7 million was a Gift and FO claimed it on his taxes as 'Owed', Here Comes the IRS.

IF, the 1.7 million was a Loan, Here Comes GF.

FO.... Take Your Pick.

Hmm? Lose to GF or Lose to IRS and possible jail time? Hmm?

Not 'Winning' so much now, are we FO?

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!

MOO

 

[afitzy]

It was in an early NYP article I believe based on a quote from a friend of JD. The article posted over the past couple of days from Providence also referred to FO 'past' as well I believe. Don't think monogomy is in FO DNA. MOO

"But in addition to Fotis’ threatening behavior, Jennifer discovered her husband had “had serial affairs” after first learning of his relationship with Michelle in 2017". [BBM]

https://nypost.com/2019/06/22/lawye...orchestrated-her-own-gone-girl-disappearance/

IMO This article was where Team JD punched back against the victim shaming of Pattis & Crew.

 

[Myvice]

OMG.

Can you imagine FO in Court saying.......

"But, but, your Honor, that 1.7 million I claimed as 'OWED' to HF on my Tax Return, was a GIFT from HF."

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!

Either way, FO is Toast.

IF, the 1.7 million was a Gift and FO claimed it on his taxes as 'Owed', Here Comes the IRS.

IF, the 1.7 million was a Loan, Here Comes GF.

FO.... Take Your Pick.

Hmm? Lose to GF or Lose to IRS and possible jail time? Hmm?

Not 'Winning' so much now, are we FO?

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!

MOO

Ya gotta love it when they dig their own grave!!

Moo

 

[citygirl]

Wasn't sure if the SA article about Pattis motion had been posted here:
Dulos case: Defense seeks state evidence with emergency order

Loving the Stamford Advocate. So good. Thanks.

 

[MemPat]

Dulos case: Defense seeks state evidence with emergency order

The emergency order, filed Tuesday by attorney Norm Pattis, asks the judge to compel the state attorney to share the evidence “critical” to his client’s defense. If the state does not play ball, Pattis asked that the state be prevented from using any evidence it won’t share in the prosecution.
“Given the extraordinary public interest in this case, and given the fact that scarcely a day has passed since Ms. Dulos vanished in which there is not a press account repeating the suspicion that Mr. Dulos engaged in foul play, it is fundamentally unfair for the state to withhold this evidence while the jury pool is daily exposed to adverse publicity about the case,” Pattis wrote
Pattis claims the state has evidence that Fotis Dulos was not present at his estranged wife’s home on the day she was reported missing, but refuses to provide it to the defense. He requested that the state provide evidence regarding Troconis’ interview with investigators, as well as information pulled from Fotis Dulos’ computers and cell phones.
Pattis argued that his client needs to be given access to these items in order to “perfect his alibi.”

If you have an airtight alibi, meaning it can be verified with tangible evidence, why do you need to see what the prosecution has?

The only reason you would insist on seeing it is if you needed to adapt your story to fit.

Pattis Patter is puttering along pathetically and makes me want to puke.

MOO or POO

 

[Deleted member 229974]

Don't forget This picture from the Home Living section of the Hartford Magazine in April of 2011.

He looks so sinister in the selfie holding a key. I wonder what that unlocks.

 

[MemPat]

You kid but in my quest for a Popeyes sandwich in Hartford
I saw how close the dumping spots were to the swingers club.
All kind of ideas formed.

If you ever doubted that PR works, think about those Popeye's chicken sandwiches!

 

[citygirl]

"But in addition to Fotis’ threatening behavior, Jennifer discovered her husband had “had serial affairs” after first learning of his relationship with Michelle in 2017". [BBM]

https://nypost.com/2019/06/22/lawye...orchestrated-her-own-gone-girl-disappearance/

IMO This article was where Team JD punched back against the victim shaming of Pattis & Crew.

OMG. This just makes me ill.That poor girl.

 

[afitzy]

OMG.

Can you imagine FO in Court saying.......

"But, but, your Honor, that 1.7 million I claimed as 'OWED' to HF on my Tax Return, was a GIFT from HF."

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!

Either way, FO is Toast.

IF, the 1.7 million was a Gift and FO claimed it on his taxes as 'Owed', Here Comes the IRS.

IF, the 1.7 million was a Loan, Here Comes GF.

FO.... Take Your Pick.

Hmm? Lose to GF or Lose to IRS and possible jail time? Hmm?

Not 'Winning' so much now, are we FO?

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!

MOO

Wonderful and totally true.

But I have to admit that reading about the loan being listed on FD books and tax returns months ago very much puzzled me. Who would list a 'loan' and then argue in court that its a 'gift'? Then I kept reading and the 'FO show' with KM in Civil Court was virtually identical to the tactics he used in Family Court.

Then it dawned on me that this case wasn't about anything other than tormenting GF for having the chutzpah to ask for the money back that her husband had lent FO. Truth didn't matter, following the courts orders didn't matter and on and on it went. FO had zero gratitude for FIL funding of FORE. None. Zip. Zilch. Nada. IMO.

When you look at the file in the civil case it honestly reads in a very similar way to the family court file. People would ask FO for things, he wouldn't give them and then there are no consequences. The Judge in civil court I think either had a fire lit under them by the States Atty or some other source because the case truly was stalled for quite awhile IMO. The Judge recently has been moving things along and not tolerating such things and 3 no shows for depositions by FO (yes, this is what he did with no consequences).

For some reason that I don't understand KM is still listed as an atty of record along with Atty Bill Murray. KM had filed over a month ago to be released from representing FO but he is still getting copied on all the documents. Perhaps he didn't fill out his paperwork properly? IDK.

MOO