Silver Alert CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #30

[SkylarSid]

Try this on for a fit:
“If it don’t fit, gotta acquit!”
I’ll try to bullet point a few things.
That week, FD and MT were social butterflies. Seems to me, without reviewing a thousand pages of posts,
1. FD tried to meet with soon to be X wife of his Friday morning meeting lawyer alibi. Twice.
2. Wednesday afternoon/evening FD had supervised visitation at JFD rental home. FD played with children, outside, basketball as I recall. Plenty of TIME to check out security. Cameras. Placement.
3. Thursday evening FD and MT hosted a party, cocktails or dinner at their home. Adults only. Children not invited. Any residence children were IMHO either sent to sitter or to a prearranged sleep over. BC:
4. Friday am MT WOKE UP not was awakened by alarm. If you have a real JOB or children that need to be at school in the am, your poor adult body becomes acclimated you waking up at just about the same time every school day. FD was an early bird. 4:00 am by most accounts. So let’s say he leaves the house 5:00 or so. Whatever the routine is for him.
MT woke up at 6:40. That gives her about an hour to get up, take a shower, dress, make breakfast for a child, gather up the child with all school items and leave the house. Now we’re at 7:30-7:40 am. 20-30 minute drive to school. 8:00 ish ETA. Typical day.
5. That Friday, there were no children to help get ready for school. So after spending an hour getting herself ready, she leaves at about 7:40 am. Like clockwork. But instead of driving to school, she takes the half hour or so to drive to job site. Arrives 8:15 or so at job site and now we have two vehicles.
FD had already arrived way earlier in EE truck. Typical am. EE not expected to arrive at job site until about 9:30 that am. EE expects no one at job site.
FD started trampling through poison ivy covered back path to JFD’s rent house. As early as he can bc he probably had a backpack, duffle bag, something to carry his tools. Knife. Plastic trash bags. Some rags. Remember he left his house about 5:00. Maybe a bit later. Got to job site 5:30-5:46-6:00. Depending on traffic. By no later than 7:00, he’s tramping through the woods. To Grandma’s house. Wolf in sheep’s clothing.

With me so far?
Great. Let’s say hour to trample through woods. Gets to Jennifer rent house that he previously checked out for security and cuts whatever lines he needs to cut to dismantle alarms. And lays in wait.

6. MT drive her vehicle straight to job site. Traded her ride for EE pickup. Then drives EE truck to Waverley (?) Park. Kind of off to the side somewhere. And waits for FD. She should have arrived at park about 8:30-8:45 am.

7. In the time MT waiting at park, FD killed JFD. And then realized what a MESS he had made. I’m estimating death at 8:20 or so. Maybe a little sooner. Crap. Look at this. So he stuffs JFD into her suburban wrapped up in the suburban carpet. And starts cleaning up the mess as fast as he can but running out of time. So rinses his messy bloody hands off in kitchen, dumb move, wipes on towels, rags whatever and grabs everything shoved into trash bags destined for Albany Odyssey of Stupidity.

8. Drives JFD Suburban to park. Moves body from Suburban into EE truck in front seat.
Shoves MT on floor in back. Races back over to job site. MT jumps out of back seat of EE truck. Gets into her car and off they go.
Remember, she has a perfect alibi. Some party goer forgot her clutch at party night before. Right. Corroborating alibi for MT for that Friday morning.

9. Now as I remember he drives to NYC and was denied visitation by an armed guard.

10. That’s a 2 hour trek.

11. So who’s left? NP telling us the truth that LE cannot make a case stick. NP effectively roped in MT into the web.

Please correct who went where at what time. My thoughts are based on my recollections.

FD alibi lawyer meeting is now not confirmed. His Greek phone calls witness that was scheduled to arrive in the USA to corroborate telephone call to Greece never materialized. Oh, yes, the clutch dinner party bag? Who did it belong to, MT? I don’t know too many ladies that lose their purses at parties.

I CANNOT GET THESE TWO REPLIES SEPARATED.



Can the questions/paperwork be reviewed “in camera?” By judge only to determine what can be released and what shouldn’t be released per 5th Amendment?

The frustration with all of this wrangling will lead to a Connecticut Challenge: voluntarily revamp your old, archaic system. Or involuntarily you’ll be up for a blood letting.
My head pounds when I try to get a grip on what it would take to make a CHANGE. Worse, how the rest of the USA can make a change happen from outside of CT. Bc I believe we’d have to be on the streets of CT to demand and win change. We are beating ourselves up trying to secure justice by enforcing laws ALREADY ON THE BOOKS with out being right there, front and center, and marching with the obnoxious hand lettered signs, blaring megaphones and supporting, screaming crowds.
I don’t think diplomacy is going to make it happen. Unfortunately.
I don’t want Jennifer’s legacy to have to be a fight in the trenches. I would prefer an image that reflects Jennifer Farber herself. Gracious. Intelligent. Hard working. Dedicated. Courteous. Loved and respected by all who knew her.
I’ll keep thinking. But soon, I’ll have to act. I’ll have to “just get it done.”

I like your timeline, but I thought he made the trip to NYC the NEXT day.

 

[afitzy]

Snipped respectfully to respond clearly.

3. Thursday evening FD and MT hosted a party, cocktails or dinner at their home. Adults only. Children not invited. Any residence children were IMHO either sent to sitter or to a prearranged sleep over.

RE 3: Unfortunately LE didn't publish the entire 'alibi scripts' document to confirm what is on/off the list.

This Thur evening 'party' always sounded a bit "off" to me as its an odd night to have a party for folks that have children IMO during the week IMO. Its possible that FD/MT did stage a 'party' of some sort to set up MT 'alibi' for the 24th 'return the purse' episode, but its hard to tell whether that is true or false at this point.

It seems that Atty. P. spouted the 'alibi scripts' for nearly 2 months too so IMO the FD info about: call from Greece and Atty am call (believed to be KM but this is unconfirmed by LE) I think are probably 'at best' listed as 'unconfirmed'.

Location of MT daughter on 23rd/24th is unknown at present. A prearranged sleepover IMO would provide support for premeditation of MT IMO. Also, the 'answer' or 'response' from MT about picking daughter up from school was IMO 'unclear at best' and the AW2 was silent on whether MT took her daughter to school in the am too. Do wish we have more clarity on MT timeline but we don't so far as I can see. Perhaps publication of 'alibi scripts' in a future AW will assist in this process of establishing MT timeline but as of now with such limited info IMO MT could have been in NC either at the same time as FD (if she didn't take daughter to school) or later (if she took daughter to school).

MOO

 

[Midwestmom2019]

Maybe it takes another member of Ct. Bar to inquire and get inside info. Is there a site that
the public can see to inquire of such proceedings? I can understand if there's no decision on the hearing yet, but IF he's actually
penalized it should eventually be searchable,
I would think.

IMHO probably private investigations and private hearings until decided.
Save your energy. Use it digging up Fore properties.

 

[Midwestmom2019]

I like your timeline, but I thought he made the trip to NYC the NEXT day.

Even better. Gives him more time Friday.

 

[afitzy]

Ever play poker?
Dealer shuffles a couple decks then deals out cards to all sitting at the table WHO HAVE CHIPS TO PLAY.
There are plenty of chips and plenty of cards left. Move your chips. Drop cards. Get new cards. Rearrange your hand. Re-stack your chips. A few players will drop out along the way. Alibi lawyer already folded his cards and left the table.
There’s a time to hold ‘em. This isn’t the time to fold ‘em for the strongest players. There are aces up some sleeves. Weapons under the table pointed at opponents. If you cheat, you’ll get hurt.
The Sheriff’s upstairs. He’ll come down in a bit.

Yes, its a very long poker game.

I'd originally thought one of the many motion for default would be granted (think there is still one pending due to the non delivery of the quickbooks which were due back in 2018) and then Atty Bowman wouldn't have to deal with the deposition of MT.

So far though this hasn't happened and so maybe the Judge is weighing the options of dealing with ongoing Pattis deposition, MT invoking the 5th mess and just issuing a default OR simply wading through all the muck and dealing with the discovery issue problems that appear to be part of the the Atty BM delay delay delay tactics. IMO it looks like the Judge has some decisions to make about how to proceed as the trial date still is on the calendar for 12/3.
MOO

 

[Midwestmom2019]

Don’t have time this am about facts. But if afitzy has time, plug in both MT dropping off at school/not dropping off and same in afternoon. Basically add or remove time needed for school run. And see if still will work time wise. I bet it will.

Edited: And as some poster noted, he (or with MT) had two extra hours bc NYC run was Saturday, just draw big circle around murder scene for outside limits for drive and disposal time. Between 9:30 and noon. 2.5 hours. I don’t think he or with MT hid her and came back to dispose of her later. One action. And he drove her wherever he took her.
MT just had to move her vehicle away from job site before 9:30 EE arrival. And could have joined up with FD at any point after 9:30.

 

[Midwestmom2019]

Yes, its a very long poker game.

I'd originally thought one of the many motion for default would be granted (think there is still one pending due to the non delivery of the quickbooks which were due back in 2018) and then Atty Bowman wouldn't have to deal with the deposition of MT.

So far though this hasn't happened and so maybe the Judge is weighing the options of dealing with ongoing Pattis deposition, MT invoking the 5th mess and just issuing a default OR simply wading through all the muck and dealing with the discovery issue problems that appear to be part of the the Atty BM delay delay delay tactics. IMO it looks like the Judge has some decisions to make about how to proceed as the trial date still is on the calendar for 12/3.
MOO

Judge cannot grant default. Default is HATED by judges. They go out of their way to keep from granting defaults in almost any case. Hire lawyers to find defaulting party. Etc. won’t happen here.
Contempt would be nice. That can be done. More than enough chances to comply with everything. But I’m not the judge. If I was?
Did you get an order? Did you comply with the order? No? Here’s a toothbrush. Bailiff! Please escort the defendant to the back.
Next case!

 

[Megnut]

Here's a pivot point: whether JF was ever in the Tacoma.

We DO know a bloodlike substance bearing her DNA was.

We DO know that MT conceded that JF's body "must have been in there at some point" but we DON'T know that to be an admission, a confession or a supposition on MT's part.

We DON'T know where SHE was that morning.

We DON'T know necessarily who was driving the vehicles.

We DO know that FD himself has said, "I know what I've done and what I've haven't done."

And while he's not really a bastion of truth telling but arrogant people find odd times to be suddenly and adamantly truthful... this might be one of those times. IMO, he could be saying, for instance, "Yeah, I killed her, but I never drove with her in the Tacoma."

Wherever MT was or wasn't, I still think it's MOST likely that FD left Welles with JF... (we don't know for certain that he'd killed her, YET... she could've been injured terribly but still alive)... (another FD "I know what I did and I know what I didn't know" moment -- as in maybe he DIDN'T kill her, AT Welles. Those distinctions MATTER to a narcissist.) Then I think he disposed of her body BEFORE getting back to the Tacoma on Lapham. Trash bags he could transfer in broad daylight; a body, I don't think so. MOO

The blood on the passenger seat, how'd it get there? A leaking trash bag. Transfer blood, from FD's clothes, either while he's wearing them or as cast offs.

Question: did SOMEONE SIT in that passenger seat?

Was it FD? With someone else driving...

Could JF been sitting there, injured but alive?

WHY did FD wait until the evening to discard the trash bags and WHY did he STILL HAVE them? Why weren't the bags left wherever dear JF was left?

The longer this goes on, the more questions I seem to have.

Please, dear God, let there be some kind of real justice for Jennifer. Soon. Her family deserves that.

MOO MOO MOO

 

[sds71]

Attorney prepares 40-page appeal of gag order in Jennifer Dulos case
Attorney Norm Pattis will file his arguments Monday in favor of the state Supreme Court overturning a gag order imposed by a lower court judge in the criminal case against his client, Fotis Dulos.

As the disappearance of Jennifer Dulos, a 51-year-old New Canaan mother of five, grabbed international headlines, Superior Court Judge John Blawie issued a gag order in the case — partly because of comments Pattis made to the media.

However, Pattis contends the gag order is impeding his client's First Amendment rights to defend himself against accusations outside of a courtroom and his client's Six Amendment right to a fair trial.
Pattis is expected to file a 40-page brief outlining state and federal constitutional issues he feels the Supreme Court should consider to strike down the gag order. The Supreme Court denied Pattis’ request for more time and 10 additional pages. The Supreme Court allowed him to submit 40 pages — five more than he was originally allotted.
In the document, Pattis will ask the Supreme Court to consider whether "a content-based prior restraint on trial participants" violates the First and Sixth amendments and whether it also violates the Connecticut Constitution.
Attorneys for the Chief State's Attorney's Office will have until Nov. 22 to file their brief opposing Pattis’ appeal. Pattis will then have until Dec. 5 to file a rebuttal before the Supreme Court hears the case on Dec. 9.

The Supreme Court earlier this month granted Pattis’ request to appeal the gag order, which limits those involved from speaking publicly about the case.


The 52-year-old Farmington resident, and his former live-in girlfriend Michelle Troconis, were charged with tampering with evidence and hindering prosecution about a week after his estranged wife vanished on May 24.

The disappearance and the charges have drawn international attention with Fotis Dulos appearing on national television, denying any involvement with his estranged wife’s disappearance as the couple was embroiled in a two-year acrimonious divorce and custody battle for their five children.

After the gag order was imposed, Fotis Dulos spoke to the Greek media outlet, Proto Thema, a news weekly and website in Athens, where he was raised. In the interview, Fotis Dulos discussed how his marriage fell apart and questioned his wife’s mental state.


Pattis is expected to argue in the brief that the gag order imposed in the case is a form of "prior restraint" on speech that has no precedent in state or federal law.

 

[Midwestmom2019]

Here's a pivot point: whether JF was ever in the Tacoma.

We DO know a bloodlike substance bearing her DNA was.

We DO know that MT conceded that JF's body "must have been in there at some point" but we DON'T know that to be an admission, a confession or a supposition on MT's part.

We DON'T know where SHE was that morning.

We DON'T know necessarily who was driving the vehicles.

We DO know that FD himself has said, "I know what I've done and what I've haven't done."

And while he's not really a bastion of truth telling but arrogant people find odd times to be suddenly and adamantly truthful... this might be one of those times. IMO, he could be saying, for instance, "Yeah, I killed her, but I never drove with her in the Tacoma."

Wherever MT was or wasn't, I still think it's MOST likely that FD left Welles with JF... (we don't know for certain that he'd killed her, YET... she could've been injured terribly but still alive)... (another FD "I know what I did and I know what I didn't know" moment -- as in maybe he DIDN'T kill her, AT Welles. Those distinctions MATTER to a narcissist.) Then I think he disposed of her body BEFORE getting back to the Tacoma on Lapham. Trash bags he could transfer in broad daylight; a body, I don't think so. MOO

The blood on the passenger seat, how'd it get there? A leaking trash bag. Transfer blood, from FD's clothes, either while he's wearing them or as cast offs.

Question: did SOMEONE SIT in that passenger seat?

Was it FD? With someone else driving...

Could JF been sitting there, injured but alive?

WHY did FD wait until the evening to discard the trash bags and WHY did he STILL HAVE them? Why weren't the bags left wherever dear JF was left?

The longer this goes on, the more questions I seem to have.

Please, dear God, let there be some kind of real justice for Jennifer. Soon. Her family deserves that.

MOO MOO MOO

If I can attempt to provide answers to your observations. And just FYI, my timeline is just that, as well. My observations.

Only the suburban left JFD rent house. EE truck not there.
Body, if carried, would have dripped from garage, across driveway, grass, and then all the way along the poison ivy trail back to work site. No blood dripping outside garage. That we know of.
Body was wrapped up maybe two layers, like blanket but in her suburban carpet probably in garage not at park. Carpet and body transferred at park. Into bed or front seat bc can’t have dead body in bed of truck for anyone to see. Same with bloody bags. Bags more likely in bed. Contractor with garbage bags in back bed. Easy to blend into life. Body disposed of. Bags moved at second stop. And separate time from body. The Albany Avenue bags were the last of the mess. Most of the mess had been disposed of earlier in the day. He simply ran out of time in the afternoon to dispose of everything. And. Change his bloody clothes. And. Take a shower. With or without MT. And. Go to car wash. And. Go to bank. And. Bring EE truck back with keys. And. Wipe down inside of truck with MT help.
By time body loaded into front seat of EE truck, I would presume heavy bleeding stopped. Body bled out in garage, blanket or suburban. Maybe in bed of truck. But if still bleeding, motorist following pickup would notice red substance dripping from bed.

Blanket could have been multiple pillows, like the one found in Albany Avenue. Whatever used to soak up massive blood loss.

My observations. Like belly buttons. Everyone has one.

 

[SkylarSid]

If I can attempt to provide answers to your observations. And just FYI, my timeline is just that, as well. My observations.

Only the suburban left JFD rent house. EE truck not there.
Body, if carried, would have dripped from garage, across driveway, grass, and then all the way along the poison ivy trail back to work site. No blood dripping outside garage. That we know of.
Body was wrapped up maybe two layers, like blanket but in her suburban carpet probably in garage not at park. Carpet and body transferred at park. Into bed or front seat bc can’t have dead body in bed of truck for anyone to see. Same with bloody bags. Bags more likely in bed. Contractor with garbage bags in back bed. Easy to blend into life. Body disposed of. Bags moved at second stop. And separate time from body. The Albany Avenue bags were the last of the mess. Most of the mess had been disposed of earlier in the day. He simply ran out of time in the afternoon to dispose of everything. And. Change his bloody clothes. And. Take a shower. With or without MT. And. Go to car wash. And. Go to bank. And. Bring EE truck back with keys. And. Wipe down inside of truck with MT help.
By time body loaded into front seat of EE truck, I would presume heavy bleeding stopped. Body bled out in garage, blanket or suburban. Maybe in bed of truck. But if still bleeding, motorist following pickup would notice red substance dripping from bed.

Blanket could have been multiple pillows, like the one found in Albany Avenue. Whatever used to soak up massive blood loss.

My observations. Like belly buttons. Everyone has one.

Except the bank and the car wash were days later. I know, after five months it is hard to keep track of these things...

 

[Megnut]

I think it's good to go over the details together because we help each remember.

I'm trying to challenge my own accidental assumptions.

Like assuming JD was no longer alive when taken from Welles.... a monster could easily incapacitate her in one place and leave her to die in another.... and absolve himself of murder, because.

Here's a thought: the trash bags. We have generally assumed those bags contain clean up supplies, clothes, or worse FROM THE ORIGINAL CRIME SCENE.

Did he HAVE bags at the crime scene? Did he find some in JD's garage? Did he wrap everything up into a blanket, tarp, rug? Maybe when dear Jennifer's body is found, all THAT evidence will be found with her.

Maybe the bulk of the trash bag contents that made it to Albany were largely from the clean up of the Tacoma and whatever remained from the morning-- Jennifer's shirt and bra, his clothes, and then Tacoma clean up rags...

We know about the Albany run because his phone pinged....

Could he have made a similar morning run, no pings because his phone was showering with MT.... could he have stopped along a quiet street in New York and disposed of incriminating evidence? New York doesn't apparently have its own landfills... they outsource.... could there be evidence that went to a landfill no one thought of?

I still think he left her somewhere before he returned (in the Suburban) to the Tacoma.

MOO MOO MOO

 

[enelram]

Except the bank and the car wash were days later. I know, after five months it is hard to keep track of these things...

i believe the bank and carwash were the following Wednesday in the next week.
Someone correct me if this is wrong.

 

[afitzy]

The affidavit was signed with Alex Jones authorization due to time constraints in front of another attorney.
The Judge noticed the signatures didn’t match.
It had no disclaimer but the person that signed it had Jones power of attorney and a letter saying everything in the affidavit was true.
It was a procedural issue. The affidavit was re-submitted and signed by Jones.

Yes and no IMO.

Yes it was procedural and the POA was present BUT the signature was in fact forged by Atty. P as I understand the statement of facts.

Again, we see Atty. P. 'in a hurry' to avoid some calamity or someone coming after him (think it was both in this case if I recall the facts) and so corners are cut and yet again we see the law broken. IMO he should have waited for Jones signature. Our system is based on a personal signature having value and in this case there was no value on the signature because it was forged. If someone is willing to sign another persons name then what else won't they hesitate to do on behalf of a client? IDK about you but this is something that does concern me greatly and I do think it ought to concern the CT State Bar and the Judges looking at what Atty. P. actually did in this case. Do we have an example of a an atty with 'no boundaries' legal or otherwise? IDK, certainly seems this way to me as even a 5 yo. realises what they are doing when they are asked to 'sign' their homework before submitting it to teacher!

IMO Atty. P. was just rolling the dice and hoping not to be caught out. Instead we FINALLY see a Judge checking things out and dotting i's and crossing t's and low and behold calls out the 'shortcutting' and IMO 'half assed' paperwork processing by Atty. P. I do believe he self reported after the fact so perhaps this might help him. But, I do have to question ANY PERSON LET ALONE AN OFFICER OF THE COURT, FORGING A SIGNATURE.

IMO any Judge letting this issue go on forging a signature on a legal document submitted to court by an Officer of the Court such as Atty. P. and not issuing a punishment is simply opening pandoras box to other people forging signatures on legal documents and coming up with lame excuses as to why it was done but its ok etc.

IMO the entire situation was irresponsible and very poor judgement on the part of Atty. P. and I hope the Judges will agree and punish him severely and quickly.

MOO

 

[afitzy]

i believe the bank and carwash were the following Wednesday in the next week.
Someone correct me if this is wrong.

Here is the link to the AW2 document. Dulos Press Release With Warrant The date was 5/29 for the bank and car wash. MT seemed to be pleading ignorance until LE showed her pictures of ATM camera, her Tahoe rental and FD inside the car wash. MOO

 

[Alathea]

bbm
Good point, and it's entirely possible the same is happening with FD - that he too is being paid by the State of CT! Disgusting, no?

I mean NP - FD's lawyer, of course - sorry.

 

[sleuth66]

Don’t have time this am about facts. But if afitzy has time, plug in both MT dropping off at school/not dropping off and same in afternoon. Basically add or remove time needed for school run. And see if still will work time wise. I bet it will.

Edited: And as some poster noted, he (or with MT) had two extra hours bc NYC run was Saturday, just draw big circle around murder scene for outside limits for drive and disposal time. Between 9:30 and noon. 2.5 hours. I don’t think he or with MT hid her and came back to dispose of her later. One action. And he drove her wherever he took her.
MT just had to move her vehicle away from job site before 9:30 EE arrival. And could have joined up with FD at any point after 9:30.

There is time for MT to make it down to NC even if she dropped off at school, just not in the timeframe that AW2 lists for the red truck. So if she dropped off at school she wasn't in the red truck to get there. She could make it down to NC in time to meet at Waveny by 10- 10:25 when JDs Suburban went from Welles to Waveny.

Also just to point out, the EE work site at Sturbridge isn't accessible by woods to JDs Welles Lane. It is clear across town about 3 miles away. That would have put FD on some major roads with exposure and schoolbus cams, taken quite some time and energy, and risked EE arriving at any minute, thus seems unlikely they used the EE worksite as a staging ground. Red Tacoma was spotted on bus cam at Waveny as well.

I still think it is possible that FD drove the body out to Silver Spring Rd or another remote area in the 47 minutes between leaving Welles and the timepoint in the red truck at the NC rest area on the Merritt. MT could have possibly been in on that part of the day.

It is also possible that LE has been able to enhance the images of the red truck along the way back to Farmington, even the images in the AW2 blurry as they were suggested that something lumpy was in the bed of the red truck. If they've been able to enhance these and figure out what it was- it looked like it could have been a bike or a body- that will be an important piece of information.

 

[CTGrammy]

DBM.

 

[CTGrammy]

Yes and no IMO.

Yes it was procedural and the POA was present BUT the signature was in fact forged by Atty. P as I understand the statement of facts.

Again, we see Atty. P. 'in a hurry' to avoid some calamity or someone coming after him (think it was both in this case if I recall the facts) and so corners are cut and yet again we see the law broken. IMO he should have waited for Jones signature. Our system is based on a personal signature having value and in this case there was no value on the signature because it was forged. If someone is willing to sign another persons name then what else won't they hesitate to do on behalf of a client? IDK about you but this is something that does concern me greatly and I do think it ought to concern the CT State Bar and the Judges looking at what Atty. P. actually did in this case. Do we have an example of a an atty with 'no boundaries' legal or otherwise? IDK, certainly seems this way to me as even a 5 yo. realises what they are doing when they are asked to 'sign' their homework before submitting it to teacher!

IMO Atty. P. was just rolling the dice and hoping not to be caught out. Instead we FINALLY see a Judge checking things out and dotting i's and crossing t's and low and behold calls out the 'shortcutting' and IMO 'half assed' paperwork processing by Atty. P. I do believe he self reported after the fact so perhaps this might help him. But, I do have to question ANY PERSON LET ALONE AN OFFICER OF THE COURT, FORGING A SIGNATURE.

IMO any Judge letting this issue go on forging a signature on a legal document submitted to court by an Officer of the Court such as Atty. P. and not issuing a punishment is simply opening pandoras box to other people forging signatures on legal documents and coming up with lame excuses as to why it was done but its ok etc.

IMO the entire situation was irresponsible and very poor judgement on the part of Atty. P. and I hope the Judges will agree and punish him severely and quickly.

MOO

It is possible that the Judge who caught the infraction, 'allowed' NP to Report himself. NP may have realized that by Reporting himself, it would go a long way in gaining an advantage in any discipline metered out, than if the original Judge Reported NP.

 

[citygirl]

There is time for MT to make it down to NC even if she dropped off at school, just not in the timeframe that AW2 lists for the red truck. So if she dropped off at school she wasn't in the red truck to get there. She could make it down to NC in time to meet at Waveny by 10- 10:25 when JDs Suburban went from Welles to Waveny.

Also just to point out, the EE work site at Sturbridge isn't accessible by woods to JDs Welles Lane. It is clear across town about 3 miles away. That would have put FD on some major roads with exposure and schoolbus cams, taken quite some time and energy, and risked EE arriving at any minute, thus seems unlikely they used the EE worksite as a staging ground. Red Tacoma was spotted on bus cam at Waveny as well.

I still think it is possible that FD drove the body out to Silver Spring Rd or another remote area in the 47 minutes between leaving Welles and the timepoint in the red truck at the NC rest area on the Merritt. MT could have possibly been in on that part of the day.

It is also possible that LE has been able to enhance the images of the red truck along the way back to Farmington, even the images in the AW2 blurry as they were suggested that something lumpy was in the bed of the red truck. If they've been able to enhance these and figure out what it was- it looked like it could have been a bike or a body- that will be an important piece of information.

Sleuth, I have always thought she was in the bed of the truck. There was much discussion about that and the majority felt she was placed in the front due to blood evidence and not taking the chance that she may be seen.
I hope they are able to enhance those videos, too.
What is your take on why the files have been sealed for another 90 days?
Are they garnering new leads or still wading through all the info they have had?
MOO.