Silver Alert CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #31

[BellaVita]

This is something I want to know the answer to, also-it should have come up again from Weinstein, I think, if Markowitz didn’t produce them. But maybe Weinstein just hasn’t gotten around to it yet

This is what I wonder about the court systems everywhere. It is a wonder anybody complies with anything. All you really have to say is whoops, lost, accidentally destroyed, deleted, still can't find. I once went thru an entire weekend getting files, copying files, organizing into a story that was logically laid out. On very short notice. The sleazeballs just always have a way of getting out of any consequences. I think Weinstein is very good and if all these people don't see what is coming for them, woe be to them. I think he sees forest for the trees and more than one way to skin a cat. He is crafty. I know the type.

 

[kimch33kim]

I love weinstein too. Especially the part where he says “let’s let judge noble do whatever He does”

 

[Midwestmom2019]

I wonder if he had MT fill out the forms with JD's information and pose as JD to get the information. and those forms are definitely on file so they can backtrack on the date and maybe there is surveillance footage or some other type of time stamped data which proves JD was not there at that time and MT was,......JMOO

Farber Family Estate planning documents would not be filed of record. But FD wouldn’t know that and so would try to find them by checking court clerk records.
Those types of documents stay within the law firm, client and trustee. JD/CPA within firm.
Any financial institution generally receives only the first page and signature pages.
Even the IRS doesn’t receive copies in the ordinary course of business. They issue an EIN for purposes of filing returns.

 

[BellaVita]

Farber Family Estate planning documents would not be filed of record. But FD wouldn’t know that and so would try to find them by checking court clerk records.
Those types of documents stay within the law firm, client and trustee. JD/CPA within firm.
Any financial institution generally receives only the first page and signature pages.
Even the IRS doesn’t receive copies in the ordinary course of business. They issue an EIN for purposes of filing returns.

Also interesting the question about whether MT discussed with FD that HF estate would have to pay mortgage. Interesting because unless there is some proof that this discussion happened, it is really a nothing question, relying solely on the truthfulness of the witness. I would have to think that there is some evidence of this. OTOH, if she did tell the truth, and I'm sure they did discuss, it would be maybe helpful to motive for the murder, more than FORE issues. IMO. I think Weinstein knows alot and none of these questions are not backed up by real info. Habitual liars obviously can't be relied upon and every single thing asked of them needs to be backed up with proof of some sort. Otherwise you only get lies and trickle-truth. Hehe. Don't ask me how I know.

 

[sleuth66]

I wonder if he had MT fill out the forms with JD's information and pose as JD to get the information. and those forms are definitely on file so they can backtrack on the date and maybe there is surveillance footage or some other type of time stamped data which proves JD was not there at that time and MT was,......JMOO

On that note, I wonder if FD kept JDs ID from her purse and planned for/had MT use it, either in this or other scenarios.
We haven’t heard anything about JDs wallet, ID or credit cards. Often in missing person cases you hear that credit cards and bank accounts have had no activity. Given that NP and FD regularly crows that JD is still alive, one might expect the state to pull out this lack of activity to counter . Unless, of course, there is record of activity and it is incriminating to MT and FD.
Perhaps wishful thinking here, but would
Not put it past FD and MT.
MOO

 

[SkylarSid]

Actual wills do end up recorded in City Hall after a person has passed away. Wills that set up estates (including trusts) will be recorded. Maybe that is what they are referring to.

Farber Family Estate planning documents would not be filed of record. But FD wouldn’t know that and so would try to find them by checking court clerk records.
Those types of documents stay within the law firm, client and trustee. JD/CPA within firm.
Any financial institution generally receives only the first page and signature pages.
Even the IRS doesn’t receive copies in the ordinary course of business. They issue an EIN for purposes of filing returns.

 

[BellaVita]

On that note, I wonder if FD kept JDs ID from her purse and planned for/had MT use it, either in this or other scenarios.
We haven’t heard anything about JDs wallet, ID or credit cards. Often in missing person cases you hear that credit cards and bank accounts have had no activity. Given that NP and FD regularly crows that JD is still alive, one might expect the state to pull out this lack of activity to counter . Unless, of course, there is record of activity and it is incriminating to MT and FD.
Perhaps wishful thinking here, but would
Not put it past FD and MT.
MOO

Hehe. Good luck with all that. It will all be documented like the garbage run, the car wash and the Toyota. Video, IP address, you name it. Because FD is the smartest guy in the room, lol. Yeah, they maybe could have VPN addresses, etc but really, whatever. Too much physical evidence and the garbage run is so [REDACTED] [REDACTED]. Hey FD, you are only as smart as you think you are and you are not very smart. You made a very simple crime into a convoluted mess by trying to one-up everyone. People way smarter than you. JMO.

 

[kimch33kim]

Actual wills do end up recorded in City Hall after a person has passed away. Wills that set up estates (including trusts) will be recorded. Maybe that is what they are referring to.

I think that’s what they are referring to. Exactly.

 

[BellaVita]

Actual wills do end up recorded in City Hall after a person has passed away. Wills that set up estates (including trusts) will be recorded. Maybe that is what they are referring to.

Supposedly there are ways to avoid probate but a will IS recorded, IMO. The fact that Weinstein asked that question means he KNOWS MT went to NY to look at those records. IMO. Even if there was minimal info, MT went there. JMO.

 

[CTGrammy]

Supposedly there are ways to avoid probate but a will IS recorded, IMO. The fact that Weinstein asked that question means he KNOWS MT went to NY to look at those records. IMO. Even if there was minimal info, MT went there. JMO.

However, Trusts are a totally different entity from a Will.

Is a Living Trust Public?

Living trusts provide more privacy than do wills.
By Mary Randolph, J.D.

One of the advantages of using a living trust, instead of a will, to leave the bulk of your property is that it gives your family more privacy.

Why Trusts Stay Private
A living trust never needs to be filed with a court, either before or after your death. The probate court isn’t involved in supervising your trustee, the person you name in the trust document to handle the distribution of the trust assets. The trustee simply follows the instructions you wrote in the trust document, without getting permission or approval from the court.

IMO.

 

[SkylarSid]

However, Trusts are a totally different entity from a Will.

Is a Living Trust Public?

Living trusts provide more privacy than do wills.
By Mary Randolph, J.D.

One of the advantages of using a living trust, instead of a will, to leave the bulk of your property is that it gives your family more privacy.

Why Trusts Stay Private
A living trust never needs to be filed with a court, either before or after your death. The probate court isn’t involved in supervising your trustee, the person you name in the trust document to handle the distribution of the trust assets. The trustee simply follows the instructions you wrote in the trust document, without getting permission or approval from the court.

Is a Living Trust Public?

I simply did not know that. Interesting. So he sent his paramour to NY to try to find out exactly what the trusts were worth. What a slime bucket. JMO.

 

[CTGrammy]

I simply did not know that. Interesting. So he sent his paramour to NY to try to find out exactly what the trusts were worth. What a slime bucket. JMO.

She Obviously did not find anything, since FD tried to gain access to them in the Civil Court Case And the Family Court Case.

Two reasons that FD wants to Know:

1. His mouth is salivating with the knowledge that he will have access to those funds. NOT, but the guy can hope, right?

2. He wants to use them as a reason to get out of paying HF's estate the rest of the loaned money for FORE. You know, because rich people do not need to be repaid, since they already have so much money. NOT.

IMO.

 

[kimch33kim]

The way I read it was she did go in 2018 and did find something that’s why he stopped paying the mortgage and doesn’t have any problems also likely win the case.... Maybe I’m confused somewhere.

 

[BellaVita]

The way I read it was she did go in 2018 and did find something that’s why he stopped paying the mortgage and doesn’t have any problems also likely win the case.... Maybe I’m confused somewhere.

Missed the 2018 reference. But I did know a psychopath who did exact same thing. Didn't pan out how he thought though.
ETA: still question of loan or gift. IMO.
ETA: not exactly the same thing but thought it would work. did not. cannot fathom the thought of FD getting this house free and clear.

 

[Midwestmom2019]

I think that’s what they are referring to. Exactly.

Do you REALLY think a guy like Farber is going to have ANYTHING filed in open records?
Not in this lifetime. Not in any life time. The trusts were set up way before he died. And not in any will.
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[pandaknows]

The way I read it was she did go in 2018 and did find something that’s why he stopped paying the mortgage and doesn’t have any problems also likely win the case.... Maybe I’m confused somewhere.

IMO, MT acting on her own behalf or on behalf of a potential investor/benefactor said to FD: "Show me the money. Prove your net worth. What $$$ will you share with us if we help you with your plans?" The 2018 visit to Probate Court backed up some of FD's story regarding the will and perhaps the existence of the BNY collateral used to secure payment of the mortgage - proof of the size of the Trust, and funds earmarked for the benefit of the children. The Trust could interpret Health Education Maintenance and Support as covering 4JX's mortgage payments as housing for the children. So FD defaulted on purpose. MOO.

 

[sleuth66]

Here's another tidbit from the deposition transcript:

Q: Were you aware that Mr. Dulos had two automobiles sitting in a parking garage in Athens?
Q: Did you discuss with Mr. Dulos the purpose of those vehicles in the garage in Athens, Greece?

Hey remember Nancy Mastrocosta, Hellenic Waterskiing Wakeboarding lady who wrote a glowing endorsement of FD's fathering skills? Didn't she own/work in a parking garage in Athens? Hmmm.

And now the automobiles have been shipped back from Greece. Hmmm.

MOO.

 

[sleuth66]

The way I read it was she did go in 2018 and did find something that’s why he stopped paying the mortgage and doesn’t have any problems also likely win the case.... Maybe I’m confused somewhere.

The language in the questions in the deposition would imply that Weinstein knows that she did get the records from probate court, here's the question:

Q: Did Mr. Dulos ever ask you to go to the Probate Court in NY to review the records of the Farber estate?

next Q: Did you discuss with Mr. Dulos the approximate amount that was reflected in the probate court records as to the Farber Estate?
(italics for emphasis)

This would imply that Weinstein knows that she did get a copy of the records, since he suggests that she knew the amount in the records and thus could discuss it with FD.

MOO.

 

[CTGrammy]

Do you REALLY think a guy like Farber is going to have ANYTHING filed in open records?
Not in this lifetime. Not in any life time. The trusts were set up way before he died. And not in any will.
Dig all you want.

EXACTLY.

ALL the Farber Trusts were established Many years ago and were paying out for many years.

HF Protected the Trusts and FD will Never have informational access to them and will Never have physical access to them.

HF did Not get to where he was by being stupid. His Profession was Managing Money. Of course HF Knew to, and how, to protect the money from the likes of FD.

PERIOD.

IMO.

 

[sleuth66]

The way I read it was she did go in 2018 and did find something that’s why he stopped paying the mortgage and doesn’t have any problems also likely win the case.... Maybe I’m confused somewhere.

The language in the questions in the deposition would imply that Weinstein knows that she did get the records from probate court, here's the question:

Q: Did Mr. Dulos ever ask you to go to the Probate Court in NY to review the records of the Farber estate?

next Q: Did you discuss with Mr. Dulos the approximate amount that was reflected in the probate court records as to the Farber Estate?
(italics for emphasis)

This would imply that Weinstein knows that she did get a copy of the records, since he suggests that she knew the amount in the records and thus could discuss it with FD.

MOO.