Silver Alert CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #31

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Marissa Alter (@MarissaAlter) | Twitter
GAG ORDER UPDATE: the state Supreme Court has set a hearing for Dec. 12 to hear arguments on the gag order imposed by a Superior Court judge in the Jennifer Dulos case. The prosecutor requested the order after concerns about public comments made by Fotis Dulos’ attorney, Norm Pattis. But Pattis appealed to the Supreme Court saying it’s unfair to Dulos and violated his rights
 
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...other differences in MT and KK charges-
Can't help but wonder how much KK's family
and her upbringing influenced her behavior
in turning on PF. She was a small town farm
girl, supposedly from a well known old farming family. Most old farmers I've known were salt
of the earth,, church on Sundays, do the right
thing kind of people. Even though KK seemed
a little errant in her ways (modern times ?) and
a bit risque in her lifestyle, she still came from decent stock, as we used to say.
Did KK's family put the wrath of God and Family into her brain to coerce her into telling the truth and also to save her hide?
We didn't see or hear anything of her mother,
was she a runaway mother? Was KK from a
'broken' home?
MT on the other hand has a mother that we know has had problems in the past in 'doing the right thing' and performing honestly in her
business. How much had MommaA influenced
her daughter to fight the charges and hold all
information close to the vest. In other words
what they don't know won't hurt them as in
LE. And since MommaA is by MT's side through this debacle, I suspect her values are
the guiding force here, along w/ Papa's money.
Plus MT and MommaA having lived in the land
of corruption, Miami/South Fl., it's the norm
there to skirt the law. You know, everybody's doin it.
Also another difference in the 2 cases and I hate to bring this up but I must- is that FBI
was heavily involved in the investigative parts
of the PF case. FBI found the TOOTH!!
FBI went after KK when she was partying in Vegas. So apparently local LE and CBI "invited" FBI to come assist. And assist they did. Just seems to me they were there throughout.
I've read that in some legal jurisdictions there
is a lot of jealousy and petty feelings about
allowing/inviting FBI to come in as local LE
often feels it makes them look deficient and that they can't handle their own investigations.
We saw lots of this locally during the Pulse
investigation. There were awkward moments
behind the scenes between local LE and FBI.

Did the new incoming Ct. State Police head have a problem inviting FBI to actively participate? Why haven't we see more assistance from FBI? I'd like to hear more about this and hope we do in the future.
This has been a very expensive investigation
and I'm not sure who Ct. LE answers to as far
as justifying the expenses and/or not having
any murder charges yet to show for it.
I think these are fair questions for Ct. State Police to answer.

FBI teams search for evidence in Jennifer Dulos' disappearance

According to the link above, the FBI has assisted.
 
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245.00 11/12/2019 P MOTION FOR COMMISSION FOR DEPOSITION
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EXPEDITED (RE: LAUREN ALMEIDA)
 
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Clearly to me, MT is all in.
She is complicit.
Really sad for her daughter, IMO.

BBM.
Not so sure about this.
MOO.

I feel for her daughter. I feel for JD’s kids, of course, as well. It’s just so sad what the kids have suffered. MOO.
 
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So the nanny is a former Fore Group employee. Hmmm.
Yea same pic theme as FD and the rest of the lot. Funniest thing is MT doesn’t have a photo with this theme. Haha she joined in July 2016
 

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So the nanny is a former Fore Group employee. Hmmm.
I reallllllly don't think there's anything suspect about Lauren. She is way more than a 'nanny' and potentially a 'former employee' of Fore Group. I see her as a young, strong, brave woman who was a friend and likely confidante of Jennifer's in addition to JF being her 'boss'. She continues to provide love and consistency to the kids. It takes a pretty fierce person with a lot of good things going on within themselves to be in your 20's and take the time, care, and strength to nurture and protect 5 (5!!) children's needs, especially when they are not your own. I seriously salute her for continuing to be a warrior and constant presence with the children. Everything about what happened to Jennifer has to be hard for Lauren, and she is picking up the pieces and running against the wind as far as I'm concerned...

ALL MOO!
 
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I reallllllly don't think there's anything suspect about Lauren. She is way more than a 'nanny' and potentially a 'former employee' of Fore Group. I see her as a young, strong, brave woman who was a friend and likely confidante of Jennifer's in addition to JF being her 'boss'. She continues to provide love and consistency to the kids. It takes a pretty fierce person with a lot of good things going on within themselves to be in your 20's and take the time, care, and strength to nurture and protect 5 (5!!) children's needs, especially when they are not your own. I seriously salute her for continuing to be a warrior and constant presence with the children. Everything about what happened to Jennifer has to be hard for Lauren, and she is picking up the pieces and running against the wind as far as I'm concerned...

ALL MOO!
She surely didn’t show which side she was on since she was still following both fd accounts and he was following and supporting both of hers as well. Also don’t forget she was not a live in and JD more of the taking care of than we think
 
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She surely didn’t show which side she was on since she was still following both fd accounts and he was following and supporting both of hers as well. Also don’t forget she was not a live in and JD more of the taking care of than we think
Wait, so you believe Lauren’s loyalty is based on her following FD’s social media accounts? Ever hear of the phrase “keep your friends close and your enemies closer?”

If FD didn’t approve of Lauren, do you think he would’ve let the court motions fly to get rid of her? I do! I also think of who I was in my 20’s and what she is selflessly offering the children at the expense of her own life, relationship, location, etc.

She’s doing the right thing by those children, IMO, as hard as that might be for her, personally. What do you see that’s so wrong?

all MOO!
 
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Wait, so you believe Lauren’s loyalty is based on her following FD’s social media accounts? Ever hear of the phrase “keep your friends close and your enemies closer?”

If FD didn’t approve of Lauren, do you think he would’ve let the court motions fly to get rid of her? I do! I also think of who I was in my 20’s and what she is selflessly offering the children at the expense of her own life, relationship, location, etc.

She’s doing the right thing by those children, IMO, as hard as that might be for her, personally. What do you see that’s so wrong?

all MOO!
No I don’t think what you said. I was simply pointing out a fact. There is more but I don’t want to go against the rules here so I won’t say anything else. I don’t think her working for FORE meant anything bad either. In fact I believe JD pushed for it along with the other young guy who was hired around the same time “BC”.
Since you think she is doing a good job with the children do you think she should also take some time to filter what her mom is saying/doing on social media ? Just wondering MOO
 
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No I don’t think what you said. I was simply pointing out a fact. There is more but I don’t want to go against the rules here so I won’t say anything else. I don’t think her working for FORE meant anything bad either. In fact I believe JD pushed for it along with the other young guy who was hired around the same time “BC”.
Since you think she is doing a good job with the children do you think she should also take some time to filter what her mom is saying/doing on social media ? Just wondering MOO
Nope, I think her mom is holding her own on social media from what I understand. How much do you think a person can handle...mentally, physically...while taking responsibility for 5 kids under the age of 14 who have neither parent in their lives? She’s really supposed to watch her mom too? Have you considered that her mom may actually know very little about the specific details of the case and still want justice for the person she personally knows? All speculation and all MOO!
 
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No I don’t think what you said. I was simply pointing out a fact. There is more but I don’t want to go against the rules here so I won’t say anything else. I don’t think her working for FORE meant anything bad either. In fact I believe JD pushed for it along with the other young guy who was hired around the same time “BC”.
Since you think she is doing a good job with the children do you think she should also take some time to filter what her mom is saying/doing on social media ? Just wondering MOO
We unfortunately have very little information about LA other than she was the person that safeguarded the 5 children and took them to GF.

We know that GF employed LA after JF disappeared so it seems to be an endorsement of sorts for LA and her effectiveness as a nanny of the 5 children.

I believe the GAL in his assessment of the NYC living conditions of the 5 children referred also to the positive impact that LA staying with the children post JF disappearance had on the difficult situation.

These positives are balanced by the unknown relationship between FD and LA and the fact that she previously worked for FORE. We also don't know if LA working for FORE vs FD/JF personally was simply another 'tax angle' or perhaps a way to provide her benefits such as health insurance through the corporate entity? IDK, speculation on my part but might be logical.

I'm not sure what you are referring to regarding LA mother making any statements either about her daughter or this case. Do you have links to share to clarify this situation as I searched and couldn't find anything.

MOO
 
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Jennifer Dulos case: Hearing on gag order set for December

STAMFORD — The state Supremce Court has scheduled a hearing on the gag order issued in the Jennifer Dulos case for Dec. 12, according to judicial records.

Superior Court Judge John Blawie issued a gag order in the case of Fotis Dulos, Jennifer’s husband, in September at the request of prosecutors. The order prohibits those involved with the case from making comments outside the courtroom.

Fotis Dulos, 52, and Michelle Troconis, 44, were each previously charged with two counts of tampering with evidence and hindering prosecution in the May 24 disappearance.

At the time, Blawie said comments by attorneys and other parties could affect a fair trial.

“The court finds that a substantial likelihood exists that the continued dissemination of extrajudicial comments by the parties identified in this order carries a substantial likelihood of materially prejudicing a fair trial in this case,” Blawie wrote in his order.



Attorney Norm Pattis appealed the gag order in October, claiming that it violated Fotis Dulos’ rights and was a form of “prior restraint” that has not been tested in Connecticut courts
 
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Clearly to me, MT is all in.
She is complicit.
Really sad for her daughter, IMO.

BBM.
Not so sure about this.
MOO.

Steffan Reich still FD friend. Right, right, right. Skipped a line. Sorry. But Haines was at the dinner party night before JD disappeared. I’d put him in the friend or at least good acquaintance of FD.
Who’s the guy with the private jet and landing strip in his backyard? Former friend of FD?
And finally, Lauren. The nanny. She’s the current nanny?
She was a former Fore employee? I presume FD wrote her salary or independent contractor wages off as an expense on the Fore books.
She’s following FD? And he’s following her? Still? On social media? Is that correct?
She’s not taking sides? This is the most interesting post as of late. I’ll reserve my ASTOUNDING latest thought for the future.
Several of you have skirted or touched on it. I’m not talking any more about LA right now. I don’t have anything but my IMMEDIATE gut reaction.
 
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We unfortunately have very little information about LA other than she was the person that safeguarded the 5 children and took them to GF.

We know that GF employed LA after JF disappeared so it seems to be an endorsement of sorts for LA and her effectiveness as a nanny of the 5 children.

I believe the GAL in his assessment of the NYC living conditions of the 5 children referred also to the positive impact that LA staying with the children post JF disappearance had on the difficult situation.

These positives are balanced by the unknown relationship between FD and LA and the fact that she previously worked for FORE. We also don't know if LA working for FORE vs FD/JF personally was simply another 'tax angle' or perhaps a way to provide her benefits such as health insurance through the corporate entity? IDK, speculation on my part but might be logical.

I'm not sure what you are referring to regarding LA mother making any statements either about her daughter or this case. Do you have links to share to clarify this situation as I searched and couldn't find anything.

MOO

Bingo! And if LA was Team FD, she would have warned him not to come to the NYC apartment where the children were staying, because the armed guard would not let him see them, much less take them. LA is not subversive, IMO.
 
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I was also surprised when Attn. B also said he knows everything that the State has.
So glad you brought this particular statement up for discussion!

I'm not sure what defense atty EVER would make such a statement as it simply seems improbable on the surface.

The Atty [REDACTED] statement also flies in the face of the many whining Atty. P. statements about having insufficient discovery about Welles, poor quality CDs from Albany (my personal opinion is Atty. P. needs a stronger pair of reading glasses!), electronic items discovery and the list goes on and on.

What also seems interesting to me about the Atty [REDACTED] statement was I'm not sure he got his information from MT either.

So, where did Atty Bowman get his information in order to say that he knows EVERYTHING the STATE has?

- Did States Atty Colangelo perhaps share information with Atty. B in hopes of facilitating a deal?
- Does Atty. B have contacts in State Police or LE with 'loose lips'? Perhaps the same 'loose lipped LE' that so angered Judge Blawie? But why would LE risk an investigation to assist Atty. B?
- The old standby whipping boy DA crew at the HC who maintain contact with the local defense atty's in order to facilitate their 'reposting' racket?
-Did Atty. B. former Federal Prosecutor colleagues or FBI contact perhaps 'spill the beans'
- Is there a 'leak' inside Atty Colangelo's team that is leaking to Atty. B and/or Atty P?

Perhaps this was simply an ill advised statement made towards the end of a possibly stressful deposition?

Perhaps Atty B is either more arrogant or more stupid that any of us know?

Or, maybe Atty B was telling the truth and he does know all which then leads to the question of WHY?

From reading that deposition and then the followup motions by Atty Bowman and how hard he is now seeming to fight to protect MT and keep her from speaking anywhere, I have to seriously wonder if he has to go into overkill mode on the deposition because she simply hasn't yet shared all with him and so he simply doesn't know what all he has to protect her from?

IMO the Atty Weinstein deposition was tough but also something of a long series of 'softball' questions. We didn't see some characters known to be part of the case that MT would clearly have known named in the deposition. Atty Weinstein also stayed true to his word about not crossing the bridge into questions regarding the criminal case. I do still believe that Atty B retraded his original deal with Atty Weinstein for whatever reason and looks to be IMO someone with questionable integrity as it relates to his dealings in this case on behalf of MT OR something major happened between when he first cracked a deal on the deposition with Atty Weinstein and so Atty Bowman can't see a way to allow MT to speak? Perhaps what changed was him learning more info or as he says "ALL" about the investigation?

IDK, but seeing someone backtrack and retrade a deal is rarely a good sign in any working relationship. Atty B. does seems to have some kind of working relationship with Atty Weinstein as indicated in the transcript, but perhaps he really has no options in his mind in his defense of MT?

IDK. Many questions here about Atty B. and MT. But based on the deposition questions IMO MT is deeply mired in the muck that was the life of FD. Him sending her to NYC to get records on the Farber estate put MT front and centre in direct knowledge of the money involved and give her a huge motive to stay put and put down stakes at 4Jx in my mind.

MOO MOO MOO
 
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246.00 11/08/2019 C MEMORANDUM OF DECISION ON MOTION
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RESULT: Order 11/8/2019 HON CESAR NOBLE
Amen. Request to seal the MT deposition DENIED.

Looks like its "Game On" time in Civil Court.

Good to see that Judge Noble has taken down the "Gone Hunting" sign and returned to the bench!

MOO
 
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I reallllllly don't think there's anything suspect about Lauren. She is way more than a 'nanny' and potentially a 'former employee' of Fore Group. I see her as a young, strong, brave woman who was a friend and likely confidante of Jennifer's in addition to JF being her 'boss'. She continues to provide love and consistency to the kids. It takes a pretty fierce person with a lot of good things going on within themselves to be in your 20's and take the time, care, and strength to nurture and protect 5 (5!!) children's needs, especially when they are not your own. I seriously salute her for continuing to be a warrior and constant presence with the children. Everything about what happened to Jennifer has to be hard for Lauren, and she is picking up the pieces and running against the wind as far as I'm concerned...

ALL MOO!
Just to be clear, I did not mean anything disparaging about LA in my initial post. I suspected more that FD was charging his childcare expenses to Fore as that would be very much par for his course here.
It seems to have stirred up further discussion. This is no doubt a complex case, and with narcissistic people like FD, they can be very charming and beguiling on the outside, until their true nature is known.
No doubt JD trusted LA as she assisted in the secret escape in 2017, and JD kept her on as has GF. It will be interesting to see what she shares in her deposition.
MOO..
 
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