Silver Alert CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #33

[dlharris2712]

I just watched the CBS video of fotis dulos wishing Jennifer and her family a happy holiday.
NOW. THAT. WAS. REALLY. WEIRD!

This way, he can imply that Jennifer is still alive; and planning to celebrate the holidays at her "secret cavern in the woods where she has been hiding out for the last few months"...he is an "REDacted"...moo

 

[afitzy]

Nope. Long history of money in and money out that leaves no doubt as to the intentions of the now deceased person (except in the mind of FD who feels entitled to have lived on the loaned funds and spend it on MT and her daughter and living the high life and most likely also give it to the Greek Family etc.). I also wonder how much/if anything FD invested in MT Vail condo and her very sad dead animal rug company (promoted by a PRIVATE INSTA account no less!) now being run jointly by Mama A and MT? Sadly we didn't learn the answers to any of this.

We simply have FD stating that a person now deceased said that the loans on the books would be forgiven. IMO its all been nonsense from the beginning and the only reason for the initial delay was a bit of disorganisation experienced by GF taking over the estate operations after her husbands passing, which IMO is totally understandable given the circumstances.

FD taking advantage of the FIL passing and GF taking over the estate management falls into the territory of 'despicable [REDACTED]' behaviour IMO.

MOO

Replying to myself here just to add the following:

FIL was by all accounts an accomplished and successful bond trader who set up his own firm and operated it for many years after leaving a senior leadership role at Chase.

FD is by his own admission the 'smartest guy in the room', applied math major/finance guru who sorta set up a business using FIL funds and then cratered it all while simultaneously setting his life on fire.

Little doubt in my mind as to which of these two folks I would trust to get the correct end of the stick on the entire "LOAN VS GIFT" question!

Bond traders typically think in terms of a combination of very large numbers and very very small numbers and often do so at the same time and quite quickly too! My random point here is that these folks IMO wouldn't be the sort to leave $2.5 million on the table for ANYONE even if it was a table scrap for them, no matter how generous of a person they happened to be! FIL had by all accounts a very sophisticated estate plan and focused closely on the well being and welfare of his family. To me, the probability of said FIL 'forgetting' or 'forgiving' or 'converting' a $2.5 million loan to FORE/FD is precisely ZERO.

The thing also that strikes me with this entire civil litigation is that in the 2 years it has been going on we have seen FD visibly doing very little in terms of economic productivity. Of course, 'off the books' or 'illicit' earnings absolutely can't be taken off the table as possible for FD, but my point is FD didn't even make the visible physical effort to build or create or do anything as he seemed to be more focused on pleading poverty in Family Court and trying to figure out a way to abduct his 2 or 5 children to go to a far away place. No doubt also FD had many years to grift the Farbers and JD and any income from FORE and so he probably is sitting on a good pile of cash/investments or bitcoin IMO. Thing is that the last time I looked the avg. cost to put on a solid murder defense starts at $2 million and on the East Coast probably more IMO too. Its hard to make money in jail so I'm just surprised we haven't seen more visible efforts at income generation (other than the odd foray into Craigslist) from FD. Perhaps its the "Greek Benefactors" that give FD comfort or perhaps paying his 'sister' a healthy fee each month since 2004 that has him feeling comfy financially. IDK, but I do wonder.

MOO

 

[sunshinegirl2013]

This has to turn people off... doesn't it?
YES. He is so out of touch, he doesn't realize that making that comment made him look even worse (if that's even possible!), particularly regarding his lack of caring for the children's well-being. His lawyers should have advised him not to say anything like that. It shows the high level of delusion in which he's operating!

I mean, is there anyone in the know who believes that Jennifer is off living her best childfree life somewhere, hiding out in secret?
No one in their right mind. Not even his lawyers, most likely.

Especially when the statement comes from her estranged accused ex-husband?
A comment like that is particularly offensive - and telling - when it comes from the killer. It's been done before by other spouse-murderers. It's obvious, and shows how over-confident and out of touch a murderer is.

I agree but I don't know if he went rogue yesterday with those comments or if he was following Norm's directive. I feel like neither of them have any self awareness and don't understand how poorly they're coming across to the general public. NP has been consistently obnoxious during this trial, from his bullying the female journalist yesterday to the nasty name calling and derogatory comments about GF. All of it was so off putting and not at all imo effective for FD's defense. At this point, both of them would be wise to follow MT & her attorney's lead and say as little publicly as possible as politely as possible and move on. And next time FD should leave that duffel bag at home.

 

[sunshinegirl2013]

This has to turn people off... doesn't it?
YES. He is so out of touch, he doesn't realize that making that comment made him look even worse (if that's even possible!), particularly regarding his lack of caring for the children's well-being. His lawyers should have advised him not to say anything like that. It shows the high level of delusion in which he's operating!

I mean, is there anyone in the know who believes that Jennifer is off living her best childfree life somewhere, hiding out in secret?
No one in their right mind. Not even his lawyers, most likely.

Especially when the statement comes from her estranged accused ex-husband?
A comment like that is particularly offensive - and telling - when it comes from the killer. It's been done before by other spouse-murderers. It's obvious, and shows how over-confident and out of touch a murderer is.

I agree but I don't know if he went rogue yesterday with those comments or if he was following Norm's directive. I feel like neither of them have any self awareness or understanding about how poorly they're coming across to the general public. NP has been consistently obnoxious during this trial, from his bullying the female journalist yesterday to the nasty name calling and ugly comments about GF. All of it was so off putting and not at all imo effective for FD's defense. At this point, both of them would be wise to follow MT & her attorney's lead and say as little publicly as possible as politely as possible and just move on.

 

[dlharris2712]

This is not an emotional man...this is a man with a smirk on his face...and his typical "FU" look...moo

 

[afitzy]

Usually IMO when people repeat the same thing over and over there is usually some reason for doing so.

With FD, sometimes I'm not so sure this is true.

BUT, in the event that it is true then I have major questions about the year 2010.

What happened in the life of FD in 2010 that would cause him to repeatedly refer to that year as important/pivotal/significant? We saw 2010 in the infamous 'Greek Articles' that violated the 'gag order' and yet again in the recent Civil Trial when 2010 was referenced yet again by FD as when his relationship with his FIL changed and the loans (at least in the mind of FD) were changed to equity.

IDK?

2010 I believe was the year JD gave birth to her 5th child, a girl.

It didn't seem that FD and JD were perhaps on the same page in their marriage at the point in time either by all accounts. But JD keep the marriage going per her blog entries while FD seemed to go off piste and well for lack of a better phrase seemed to be out 'doing his own thing'. Why the need for space during this period? Was it a midlife crisis or realization that his situation in Farmington and family life was a sham? IDK.

What was FD doing in 2010?

Where was FD in 2010?

Who was FD with in 2010?

Did FD have another long term or short term affair during this period and perhaps has another family stashed away in Greece or Turkey that we have yet to hear about? Stranger things have happened?

Maybe an affair in 2010 wasn't with a female at all and that was crisis inducing too?

We saw how FD almost had an 'off the shelf' solution' for the KM and his wife 'marital issues' via a special 'trip to Greece'. My guess is that 'trip to Greece' would have been the last for poor KM wife. BUT, did that 'off the shelf solution' exist in the mind of FD because he had already tried it himself previously and for whatever reason it might have failed? IDK, but an interesting theory possibly or not?!?!

In 2010, we saw Mama Dulos mown down twice in her own driveway by a very large SUV driven by the Nanny with no drivers license AND while a child was in the vehicle all while FD allegedly was in Italy.

Mama Dulos also seemed to have been the subject of any number of unknown and unexplainable 'health misfortunes' such as falling down stairs, breaking her arm and was subject to dizzy spells/fainting and was on heavy painkillers.

Mama Dulos died shortly after being mown down in her driveway, her death was NEVER reported to LE and she was immediately cremated which by all accounts is NOT in line with then conventions in the Greek Orthodox church.

Did the FD play any role in the circumstances surrounding the untimely and no doubt hugely painful death of his mother? Or, was this an insignificant event in the life of FD? IDK.

What else could have been going on in 2010 for FD or the "Greek Family"??

MOO

 

[Mimi in London]

Usually IMO when people repeat the same thing over and over there is usually some reason for doing so.

With FD, sometimes I'm not so sure this is true.

BUT, in the event that it is true then I have major questions about the year 2010.

What happened in the life of FD in 2010 that would cause him to repeatedly refer to that year as important/pivotal/significant? We saw 2010 in the infamous 'Greek Articles' that violated the 'gag order' and yet again in the recent Civil Trial when 2010 was referenced yet again by FD as when his relationship with his FIL changed and the loans (at least in the mind of FD) were changed to equity.

IDK?

2010 I believe was the year JD gave birth to her 5th child, a girl.

It didn't seem that FD and JD were perhaps on the same page in their marriage at the point in time either by all accounts. But JD keep the marriage going per her blog entries while FD seemed to go off piste and well for lack of a better phrase seemed to be out 'doing his own thing'. Why the need for space during this period? Was it a midlife crisis or realization that his situation in Farmington and family life was a sham? IDK.

What was FD doing in 2010?

Where was FD in 2010?

Who was FD with in 2010?

Did FD have another long term or short term affair during this period and perhaps has another family stashed away in Greece or Turkey that we have yet to hear about? Stranger things have happened?

Maybe an affair in 2010 wasn't with a female at all and that was crisis inducing too?

In 2010, we saw Mama Dulos mown down twice in her own driveway by a very large SUV driven by the Nanny with no drivers license AND while a child was in the vehicle all while FD allegedly was in Italy.

Mama Dulos also seemed to have been the subject of any number of unknown and unexplainable 'health misfortunes' such as falling down stairs, breaking her arm and was subject to dizzy spells/fainting and was on heavy painkillers.

Mama Dulos died shortly after being mown down in her driveway, her death was NEVER reported to LE and she was immediately cremated which by all accounts is NOT in line with then conventions in the Greek Orthodox church.

Did the FD play any role in the circumstances surrounding the untimely and no doubt hugely painful death of his mother? Or, was this an insignificant event in the life of FD? IDK.

What else could have been going on in 2010 for FD or the "Greek Family"??

MOO

Funnily enough, most of this has occurred to me, too. 2010 indeed.

 

[waldojabba]

WATCH: Husband of missing Connecticut mom takes stand to face in-laws Video | Good Morning America
here is the clip from good morning america today. It seems he tries to control the court narrativ. When he gets shut down in the clip, in looking at his body language, I can palpably feel the anger boiling in him - it is a very ugly, guilty look for him
all imo

 

[Alathea]

WATCH: Husband of missing Connecticut mom takes stand to face in-laws Video | Good Morning America
here is the clip from good morning america today. It seems he tries to control the court narrativ. When he gets shut down in the clip, in looking at his body language, I can palpably feel the anger boiling in him - it is a very ugly, guilty look for him
all imo

Yup! If he can't even control your emotions in court - just imagine what he's doing when no one is watching.

 

[Alathea]

Usually IMO when people repeat the same thing over and over there is usually some reason for doing so.

With FD, sometimes I'm not so sure this is true.

BUT, in the event that it is true then I have major questions about the year 2010.

What happened in the life of FD in 2010 that would cause him to repeatedly refer to that year as important/pivotal/significant? We saw 2010 in the infamous 'Greek Articles' that violated the 'gag order' and yet again in the recent Civil Trial when 2010 was referenced yet again by FD as when his relationship with his FIL changed and the loans (at least in the mind of FD) were changed to equity.

IDK?

2010 I believe was the year JD gave birth to her 5th child, a girl.

It didn't seem that FD and JD were perhaps on the same page in their marriage at the point in time either by all accounts. But JD keep the marriage going per her blog entries while FD seemed to go off piste and well for lack of a better phrase seemed to be out 'doing his own thing'. Why the need for space during this period? Was it a midlife crisis or realization that his situation in Farmington and family life was a sham? IDK.

What was FD doing in 2010?

Where was FD in 2010?

Who was FD with in 2010?

Did FD have another long term or short term affair during this period and perhaps has another family stashed away in Greece or Turkey that we have yet to hear about? Stranger things have happened?

Maybe an affair in 2010 wasn't with a female at all and that was crisis inducing too?

In 2010, we saw Mama Dulos mown down twice in her own driveway by a very large SUV driven by the Nanny with no drivers license AND while a child was in the vehicle all while FD allegedly was in Italy.

Mama Dulos also seemed to have been the subject of any number of unknown and unexplainable 'health misfortunes' such as falling down stairs, breaking her arm and was subject to dizzy spells/fainting and was on heavy painkillers.

Mama Dulos died shortly after being mown down in her driveway, her death was NEVER reported to LE and she was immediately cremated which by all accounts is NOT in line with then conventions in the Greek Orthodox church.

Did the FD play any role in the circumstances surrounding the untimely and no doubt hugely painful death of his mother? Or, was this an insignificant event in the life of FD? IDK.

What else could have been going on in 2010 for FD or the "Greek Family"??

MOO

bbm (several) . Good questions!!!

We knew he had affairs throughout, and JD knew throughout. It had to be bigger than just another affair. After all, he doesn't say the marriage broke down in 2014 or 2015, just before the MT affair.

There had to be something MAJOR about 2010 for him to keep referring to it.

He didn't ask for a divorce in 2010, did he? In 2012, Jennifer was still apparently happily working on the marriage and, while she wrote about things that bothered her (he was not romantic in the least, clearly,) she didn't seem to realize the marriage was falling apart. She had no clue. And he's not the type to keep negative things to himself - he certainly would have told her if he though that were the case.

Did he have an out-of-wedlock child in 2010? Some other major happening?

People don't usually refer to one particular year as THE year the marriage broke down. Too odd. It's an ongoing process. It ebbs and flows. And he's not the type to feel guilt - about anything.

2010 was significant to him somehow; apparently to cover up something he did he feels guilty about, he blamed the "deteriorating marriage," though he never appeared to say anything like that to his own wife that we know of.

Something major happened that year (maybe even in another country, if not in the US?), and some people probably know about it. If not, I hope someone looks into it.

We can only guess.

 

[afitzy]

WATCH: Husband of missing Connecticut mom takes stand to face in-laws Video | Good Morning America
here is the clip from good morning america today. It seems he tries to control the court narrativ. When he gets shut down in the clip, in looking at his body language, I can palpably feel the anger boiling in him - it is a very ugly, guilty look for him
all imo

I've been hunting for the Judge Noble smirk clip, so if someone runs into it please post a link.

 

[Jmoose]

This is not an emotional man...this is a man with a smirk on his face...and his typical "FU" look...moo

I thought the same thing-that he was “pretend crying”. Do you think he knows that people think he was only upset about the money?

 

[enelram]

What happened around 2010? The seven year itch. MOO
Dr. Joyce Brothers , family/marriage therapist popular in the 70's and 80's said men who are
not good marriage material can only fake it in
their marriage for 6-7 years until the relationship becomes so toxic for both partners
that they plan the breakup of the marriage.

I've seen this play out with many men who were
never fully invested in the marriage. Also men
who didn't have good marital role models.
If all the men in your family runs around on their wives, why wouldn't you eventually do the same.
I think FD came from a family where the wives
and mothers looked the other way when husbands wanted to sleep around.
That's what I believe happened in 2010. He'd just had enough of the charade and decided to come out and do as he pleased.

 

[CTGrammy]

@

@sds71 was this just to record the fact that he was in court yesterday or are they already planning an appeal or is Atty. P. taking over the case?

OMG.

NP is going to write the Closing Summary Brief for the Defense.

UGH. We are going to be subjected to a 1000 page Brief.

IMO.

 

[Myvice]

Something that struck me with the LA deposition was that LA was naming off the children and said Noelle instead of Cleopatra and RM immediately said "Noelle"? I wonder just how big of a deal the name thing was and if JF didn't try to stand her ground showing FD he was losing control over JD.

I had also believed that FD had threatened JD with taking the kids to Greece and was surprised that it was instead HF that he threatened. There seemed to be a lot of disagreements about the children.

Just an observation that shouldn't escalate out of proportion but with FD who knows. MOO

 

[afitzy]

OMG.

NP is going to write the Closing Summary Brief for the Defense.

UGH. We are going to be subjected to a 1000 page Brief.

IMO.

I was thinking that he of course didn't file his appearance in advance as he should have done and just filed it after the fact.

If he wasn't properly filed I truly wish Judge Noble had made him sit in the gallery with the Press where he no doubt would have felt totally at home or he could have sat with Dave Altimari who by all accounts slept through the entire trial as he certainly wasn't 'live tweeting' IMO.

I guess rules simply don't exist in the Wild Wild East of CT Courtrooms.

If Atty. P. does write the Closing Summary I for one will be terrible disappointed to not see more of the brilliance of Atty BM. I will greatly miss his spelling errors and absence of complete sentences.

So, we might be treated to a Word Salad of the Day from Atty. P. on behalf of FD and how the Farber Family owes FD money.

Sorry but I'm off for a round of shots at the local bar to be followed by a very long nap in preparation for this multipage wonder of writing which will no doubt be dropped precisely at 5 pm on the due date or perhaps he will ask for more time, "because Judge you know the weekend helps"!

If you don't hear from me soon just know that I might need to repeat the rounds of shots over many days and in many cities to gear up for the excitement of reading yet more from Atty. P. as I frankly still am having nightmares about the multiple repeated sections in his gag order appeal which was migrane inducing and might lead me into treatment for PTSD. Next post might come courtesy of wifi at Silver Hill...

Yawn......Zzzzzzzzzzzzz

MOO

 

[Tink56]

WATCH: Husband of missing Connecticut mom takes stand to face in-laws Video | Good Morning America
here is the clip from good morning america today. It seems he tries to control the court narrativ. When he gets shut down in the clip, in looking at his body language, I can palpably feel the anger boiling in him - it is a very ugly, guilty look for him
all imo

And, the video of the WEIRD holiday wishes to Jennifer and her family....then, poor and sad FD states he hopes the Farber family will share his wishes with HIS children...they were never "our"...FD always looked at the kids as a commodity...something he could own and command...barter with...for money and status...IMO, MOO

 

[Tink56]

Something that struck me with the LA deposition was that LA was naming off the children and said Noelle instead of Cleopatra and RM immediately said "Noelle"? I wonder just how big of a deal the name thing was and if JF didn't try to stand her ground showing FD he was losing control over JD.

I had also believed that FD had threatened JD with taking the kids to Greece and was surprised that it was instead HF that he threatened. There seemed to be a lot of disagreements about the children.

Just an observation that shouldn't escalate out of proportion but with FD who knows. MOO

Good memory @Myvice! JFD wrote in one of her blogs about FD's threat to never acknowledge the child if she wasn't named for his mother....his mother's name first...because he was in charge of doling out the love and affection for those he felt "earned" it.

 

[Cloudydiamond]

WATCH: Husband of missing Connecticut mom takes stand to face in-laws Video | Good Morning America
here is the clip from good morning america today. It seems he tries to control the court narrativ. When he gets shut down in the clip, in looking at his body language, I can palpably feel the anger boiling in him - it is a very ugly, guilty look for him
all imo

Wow! I’ve been waiting to see this clip! I can’t believe how this man thinks everything is a joke! Loved how he got shot down by Weinstein. Unreal!

 

[Tink56]

Usually IMO when people repeat the same thing over and over there is usually some reason for doing so.

With FD, sometimes I'm not so sure this is true.

BUT, in the event that it is true then I have major questions about the year 2010.

What happened in the life of FD in 2010 that would cause him to repeatedly refer to that year as important/pivotal/significant? We saw 2010 in the infamous 'Greek Articles' that violated the 'gag order' and yet again in the recent Civil Trial when 2010 was referenced yet again by FD as when his relationship with his FIL changed and the loans (at least in the mind of FD) were changed to equity.

IDK?

2010 I believe was the year JD gave birth to her 5th child, a girl.

It didn't seem that FD and JD were perhaps on the same page in their marriage at the point in time either by all accounts. But JD keep the marriage going per her blog entries while FD seemed to go off piste and well for lack of a better phrase seemed to be out 'doing his own thing'. Why the need for space during this period? Was it a midlife crisis or realization that his situation in Farmington and family life was a sham? IDK.

What was FD doing in 2010?

Where was FD in 2010?

Who was FD with in 2010?

Did FD have another long term or short term affair during this period and perhaps has another family stashed away in Greece or Turkey that we have yet to hear about? Stranger things have happened?

Maybe an affair in 2010 wasn't with a female at all and that was crisis inducing too?

We saw how FD almost had an 'off the shelf' solution' for the KM and his wife 'marital issues' via a special 'trip to Greece'. My guess is that 'trip to Greece' would have been the last for poor KM wife. BUT, did that 'off the shelf solution' exist in the mind of FD because he had already tried it himself previously and for whatever reason it might have failed? IDK, but an interesting theory possibly or not?!?!

In 2010, we saw Mama Dulos mown down twice in her own driveway by a very large SUV driven by the Nanny with no drivers license AND while a child was in the vehicle all while FD allegedly was in Italy.

Mama Dulos also seemed to have been the subject of any number of unknown and unexplainable 'health misfortunes' such as falling down stairs, breaking her arm and was subject to dizzy spells/fainting and was on heavy painkillers.

Mama Dulos died shortly after being mown down in her driveway, her death was NEVER reported to LE and she was immediately cremated which by all accounts is NOT in line with then conventions in the Greek Orthodox church.

Did the FD play any role in the circumstances surrounding the untimely and no doubt hugely painful death of his mother? Or, was this an insignificant event in the life of FD? IDK.

What else could have been going on in 2010 for FD or the "Greek Family"??

MOO

Good thoughts @afitzy! 2010 has been bothering lots of us, me included. FD's various declarations about that year are stunning....

• He states in interview saying he knew the marriage was over that year.
• He claims HF began "giving" him money.
• His mother dies at his home when he's gone. Did he blame JFD...or did the then employee conspire with him to end her life?
• He is traveling more.
• His business is "doing well," according the Hartford Magazine article in the spring of 2011. http://www.foregroupinc.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/HartMag10.pdf (BTW...for the long time thread watchers and readers...doesn't the one associate in the article look like NP's innocent looking associate)I
• His wife delivers their 5th child. (In her blog she states that things are better in her marriage...) However, less sex for FD...poor dear..
• Was it the 7-year-itch referred to by @enelram

I agree...what was going on with FD in 2010? Did he share that his marriage was over with his work associates? I noticed a little poochy tummy in the Hartford Magazine article. Was he feeling less manly...in need of someone to fortify his fragile ego?