Silver Alert CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #33

[Jmoose]

OMG.

NP is going to write the Closing Summary Brief for the Defense.

UGH. We are going to be subjected to a 1000 page Brief.

IMO.

more importantly, the judge will be subjected to that mess

 

[Jmoose]

OMG.

NP is going to write the Closing Summary Brief for the Defense.

UGH. We are going to be subjected to a 1000 page Brief.

IMO.

more importantly, the judge will be subjected to that mess

And, the video of the WEIRD holiday wishes to Jennifer and her family....then, poor and sad FD states he hopes the Farber family will share his wishes with HIS children...they were never "our"...FD always looked at the kids as a commodity...something he could own and command...barter with...for money and status...IMO, MOO

Well, he can’t call them “our” children, because he knows Jennifer is dead

 

[CTGrammy]

This is not an emotional man...this is a man with a smirk on his face...and his typical "FU" look...moo

That is Most Definitely a SMIRK.

IF there were any actual tears, they were to try and garner any sympathy.

Poor pitiful FD, Mommy Warbucks is being sooo mean to him.

IMO.

 

[afitzy]

Good thoughts @afitzy! 2010 has been bothering lots of us, me included. FD's various declarations about that year are stunning....

• He states in interview saying he knew the marriage was over that year.
• He claims HF began "giving" him money.
• His mother dies at his home when he's gone. Did he blame JFD...or did the then employee conspire with him to end her life?
• He is traveling more.
• His business is "doing well," according the Hartford Magazine article in the spring of 2011. http://www.foregroupinc.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/HartMag10.pdf (BTW...for the long time thread watchers and readers...doesn't the one associate in the article look like NP's innocent looking associate)I
• His wife delivers their 5th child. (In her blog she states that things are better in her marriage...) However, less sex for FD...poor dear..
• Was it the 7-year-itch referred to by @enelram

I agree...what was going on with FD in 2010? Did he share that his marriage was over with his work associates? I noticed a little poochy tummy in the Hartford Magazine article. Was he feeling less manly...in need of someone to fortify his fragile ego?

Yes, 2010 was a busy year for FD.

I keep going back to the exchange in court (we don't have the full transcript to fully understand it yet) about FD taking the children to Greece as a threat to his FIL.

We've seen the threat of absconding with the children to Argentina and Greece before in Family Court to JD but hadn't heard about such a threat levelled at FIL Farber.

Why would you make such a threat to the goose that laid all the golden eggs and has the keys to the kingdom or the safe with the pot of gold?

Lot's to think about.

I do wonder if 2010 was a turning point because FD saw his marriage over but knew he was tied to FIL funding and didn't have a way forward with the business such that he could continue the lifestyle to which he had become accustomed living on the JD Trust Fund Income?

This was a bitter pill to swallow but FD being a planner no doubt put a plan in place to figure out his exit and worked diligently to amass as much cash as he could. The thing is that we don't see any large increase in FORE work being done and there really wasn't much of a push into Lower FF Country either other than a few houses. We know FD likes money, but perhaps FD also doesn't want to work to hard either? This is a conundrum from a strategic planning standpoint IMO. Not impossible for sure but such priorities typically send people in directions of illicit activities rather than mainstream business enterprise IMO. The land of the 'quick buck' is not for the faint of heart. Did FD go down this path starting in 2010? I'm pretty certain though that FD had no intention of actually working for a living or going down the path of expanding the building business as IMO that was simply a 'make work' job to give FD a way to spend a bit of time working and appear gainfully employed and it was fully recognised as such by his FIL.

Others have alluded here to prior attempts to harm or hurt JD by FD and this line of inquiry is relevant as well given what is known about his great and quick temper. Family Court saw the info about FD attempting to run JD over with the Porsche and we saw the story of the argument with the FD illegal gun that was brought up from FL were FD locked JD in a room. It seems like with a history like this that other attempts on JD might have very well have been possible.

I've never thought there was much mystery as to why GF had armed guards at her apt to protect herself and her children. There is a reason that GF wants ZERO contact between the 5 children and the "Greek Family" and while we aren't privy to the details it must be significant IMO to relocate the children to NY and request no contact from their father and his extended family.

Given the FD headed to NY to pick up the children on 5/26 I believe there must be something significant about the children, as I've never been convinced that FD has any attachment to the children as he never seemed involved in their care or raising, traveled a lot and post JD leaving 4Jx hadn't really spent all that much time with his children. We also don't even know whether FD has the capacity to simply care for 5 children on a daily basis.

We know that MT and FD seemed to want to gather as much information about the Farber trusts and wills as they could as we saw the deposition question about MT heading into the City to try to get info etc. Was the purpose of this searching to find out about the status $2.5 million FORE loans from FIL or JD direct assets that might pass to FD upon her death or perhaps even Trusts set up for the 5 children or even any direct bequests to FD in the FIL will? What were FD and MT searching for in NY Probate records?

Money as others have stated has to be on Motive list but I'm still trying to figure out how FD planned to access the money if JD assets and income were all wrapped up in Trusts? Was the end game to take the children and then take on their trusts? I'm not sure FIL would have made it that easy for FD, particularly if he saw through the veneer of FD civility and charm.

MOO

 

[afitzy]

That is Most Definitely a SMIRK.

IF there were any actual tears, they were to try and garner any sympathy.

Poor pitiful FD, Mommy Warbucks is being sooo mean to him.

IMO.

Perhaps they were clapping each other on the back that the $5.00 they spent at Staples to create the 'faux invoices' on the way to court that Judge Noble allowed into evidence were a 'good investment' after all if they got $500,000 or so of the judgment reduced. IDK.

Heres a thought as to what MIGHT have been going on:

Atty BM: Great work Fotis with that killer idea about the last minute invoices. I thought Atty Weinstein was going to have a stroke.

Fotis: No loss there and too bad it didn't happen as that guy has been on my for years now. I'm so over him and his really hard and tricky questions. He always is looking for the truth and my god that is so completely EXHAUSTING TO ME!

Fotis: Thanks BM but I can't take full credit for the invoice idea as it originally was the idea of the highly creative and inventive KM. KM is always good for a lark and we'd tried to do this before but for some reason Atty Weinstein kept asking for more and more information and we could never substantiate the invoices. It was SO ANNOYING but we had to give up. Who would have thought that Judge Noble would just take the invoices outside of the normal discovery process! Rules are so for peasants and people with Public Defenders but I've got you guys and you are the BEST!

Pattis: You guys are just brilliant! Its been like watching paint dry in here for 2 days and then you come up with the idea of creating invoices and then the SPARKS START TO FLY.

Atty BM: Can't believe Noble bought it all, what a putz.

Pattis: Yes, total putz but only you could have pulled it off BM it was brilliant work.

Fotis to both Pattis and BM: You guys are the best! If we lose do I still have to pay you?

Pattis: Fotis there are no worries as your 'sister' loaded up the bank yesterday and as they say, "THE GREEN IS IN".

Fotis to Pattis: Yes, I've been teaching my sister about Bitcoin for years and years now and she is very well trained on how to move money around and its so brilliant because they don't even look at thumb drives coming through immigration.

Fotis to Pattis: Do you think we can make a run at full custody now? I'm feeling great after this victory and think we can take on that toughie Judge Heller but I have to admit that Atty Dranginis is more than a bit scary and I don't think either she or Judge Heller like me or YOU Pattis!

Pattis: Are you INSANE???????????????????? Nope they both hate me but it doesn't matter because I hate them both MORE! Let's go find some Reporters to yell at, I'm kinda out of practice but maybe we will find a live one today to simply attack and degrade.

Fotis: I'm game, I felt like punching that reporter that got in my way with the camera this morning. I kept wanting to push him to the ground and stomp on him.

Pattis: Please don't Fotis, just please don't.

Atty BM: I'm off to pop a few at a bar down the street. Either of you guys want to join me?

Fotis: Sure BM, I'll be there as soon as I get the thumb drive with the bitcoin info from my 'sister' and ditch her. Maybe we can go to a club later on?

Atty BM: Absolutely, we have lot's to celebrate.

Pattis: Guys, no drunk driving, no drugs and whatever you do please don't let a person take your photo!

Fotis: Sure Granddad!

Total MOO

 

[sds71]

265.00 12/04/2019 C LIST OF EXHIBITS (JD-CL-28/JD-CL-28a)

http://civilinquiry.jud.ct.gov/DocumentInquiry/DocumentInquiry.aspx?DocumentNo=18269473

 

[Alathea]

I've been hunting for the Judge Noble smirk clip, so if someone runs into it please post a link.

Interesting how FD is literally smiling/laughing here (at 1:05 - 1:12) when it's mentioned that he "didn't pay any alimony"... bizarre.

 

[afitzy]

Interesting how FD is literally smiling/laughing here (at 1:05 - 1:12) when it's mentioned that he "didn't pay any alimony"... bizarre.

Yes, but its 'not a yes or no question'. Priceless word salad.

For those new to this discussion the correct answer was NO FD didn't pay any alimony or child support because it wasn't required by Judge Heller in Family Court. We were treated to this wonderful tidbit during the Atty Rochlin TV interview who attempted poorly to justify FD financial choices with regard to choosing to support his mistress and her daughter and NOT his wife and 5 children from the time JD and the children left 4Jx.

MOO

 

[bubby girl]

M

Usually IMO when people repeat the same thing over and over there is usually some reason for doing so.

With FD, sometimes I'm not so sure this is true.

BUT, in the event that it is true then I have major questions about the year 2010.

What happened in the life of FD in 2010 that would cause him to repeatedly refer to that year as important/pivotal/significant? We saw 2010 in the infamous 'Greek Articles' that violated the 'gag order' and yet again in the recent Civil Trial when 2010 was referenced yet again by FD as when his relationship with his FIL changed and the loans (at least in the mind of FD) were changed to equity.

IDK?

2010 I believe was the year JD gave birth to her 5th child, a girl.

It didn't seem that FD and JD were perhaps on the same page in their marriage at the point in time either by all accounts. But JD keep the marriage going per her blog entries while FD seemed to go off piste and well for lack of a better phrase seemed to be out 'doing his own thing'. Why the need for space during this period? Was it a midlife crisis or realization that his situation in Farmington and family life was a sham? IDK.

What was FD doing in 2010?

Where was FD in 2010?

Who was FD with in 2010?

Did FD have another long term or short term affair during this period and perhaps has another family stashed away in Greece or Turkey that we have yet to hear about? Stranger things have happened?

Maybe an affair in 2010 wasn't with a female at all and that was crisis inducing too?

We saw how FD almost had an 'off the shelf' solution' for the KM and his wife 'marital issues' via a special 'trip to Greece'. My guess is that 'trip to Greece' would have been the last for poor KM wife. BUT, did that 'off the shelf solution' exist in the mind of FD because he had already tried it himself previously and for whatever reason it might have failed? IDK, but an interesting theory possibly or not?!?!

In 2010, we saw Mama Dulos mown down twice in her own driveway by a very large SUV driven by the Nanny with no drivers license AND while a child was in the vehicle all while FD allegedly was in Italy.

Mama Dulos also seemed to have been the subject of any number of unknown and unexplainable 'health misfortunes' such as falling down stairs, breaking her arm and was subject to dizzy spells/fainting and was on heavy painkillers.

Mama Dulos died shortly after being mown down in her driveway, her death was NEVER reported to LE and she was immediately cremated which by all accounts is NOT in line with then conventions in the Greek Orthodox church.

Did the FD play any role in the circumstances surrounding the untimely and no doubt hugely painful death of his mother? Or, was this an insignificant event in the life of FD? IDK.

What else could have been going on in 2010 for FD or the "Greek Family"??

MOO

my former ex was in commercial class a real estate..he was hit hard in 2009 with the recession..maybe by 2010 FD realized his residential builder business was not sustainable and it hit him, and all that goes with it to not be in reality (ie infidelity, extreme behavior to cope)..he does appear manic in my opinion, that I said in earlier threads...which does not mean clinical, just behavior..he knows what he has done..nothing wrong with him except evil..

 

[afitzy]

Here is copy of Defense Pretrial Motion for the Civil Trial - Information about the $500,000 'loan' from FD Friend Yannis to FORE that was wired through FIL acct at BNY - Info about Yannis and his company which is incorporated in the UAE

http://civilinquiry.jud.ct.gov/DocumentInquiry/DocumentInquiry.aspx?DocumentNo=18243051

 

[SkylarSid]

M

my former ex was in commercial class a real estate..he was hit hard in 2009 with the recession..maybe by 2010 FD realized his residential builder business was not sustainable and it hit him, and all that goes with it to not be in reality (ie infidelity, extreme behavior to cope)..he does appear manic in my opinion, that I said in earlier threads...which does not mean clinical, just behavior..he knows what he has done..nothing wrong with him except evil..

I think you might have nailed it. That recession really hit real estate and he probably did go into clinical mania. JMO.

 

[Alathea]

Something that struck me with the LA deposition was that LA was naming off the children and said Noelle instead of Cleopatra and RM immediately said "Noelle"? I wonder just how big of a deal the name thing was and if JF didn't try to stand her ground showing FD he was losing control over JD.

I had also believed that FD had threatened JD with taking the kids to Greece and was surprised that it was instead HF that he threatened. There seemed to be a lot of disagreements about the children.

Just an observation that shouldn't escalate out of proportion but with FD who knows. MOO

Good memory @Myvice! JFD wrote in one of her blogs about FD's threat to never acknowledge the child if she wasn't named for his mother....his mother's name first...because he was in charge of doling out the love and affection for those he felt "earned" it.

Jennifer wrote about her baby Noelle in 2012, always seemed to called her Noelle... and she wrote how she was very close to her baby girl.

Her writings about her will, without a doubt, be very valuable to Noelle to feel close to her mom as she grows up.

This gives me cold shivers - when she wrote about her daughter Noelle in 2012, she finished it:

"Oh, Noelle, I know that this too shall pass. But I fear I may be in a body bag by then.
Love,
Your mom"
- Jennifer Dulos, Apr 26, 2012

 

[Laughing]

In complete agreement with JMoose, praying for Judge Noble, Judge Heller, Atty. Weinstein, Atty Dranginis, Grandma Farber, the children, and LA; also Colangelo & Blawie and the investigative team.

(Anybody have, perhaps, maybe, just hypothetically, a voodoo doll or two around the house? Not that I personally would wish harm on any human, of course, especially not any human we've read about here, right? But that corduroy blazer just might not cover a human -- y'know?)

JMHO YMMV LRR but Judge Noble can put the brakes on that one!

 

[sleuth66]

Here is copy of Defense Pretrial Motion for the Civil Trial - Information about the $500,000 'loan' from FD Friend Yannis to FORE that was wired through FIL acct at BNY - Info about Yannis and his company which is incorporated in the UAE

http://civilinquiry.jud.ct.gov/DocumentInquiry/DocumentInquiry.aspx?DocumentNo=18243051

Ah, so this money was supposed to be for 123 Hunter Drive purchase and renovation (see Exhibit 4).

Hmm. Ok so let's trace where this money went, from the little we do know.

Summary: FORE/FD bought this house before JD left and filed for divorce. While MT was working for Fore. This house was just 10 minutes away from 4JC and a more "modest" home, not in the McMansion style of JC in the least. This is not a typical Fore property or project in the least. FD sold this house to his "employee" GV just 2 weeks before JD filed for divorce and left. MT then moved into 4JC fall of 2017. GV then sold this house at a $50K loss on 1/2/2018. (All info available in public records.)

Let's dig into the details:
So first, IT loaned FD the $500K to buy and renovate this house on 4/13/16. FD/Fore purchased it on 4/18/16 for $260K. The affair with MT was in full swing, and MT was working for FORE. JD presumably did not know about MT at this point. IT funneled the $ through HFs account it appears.

On 5/31/17, FD "sold" this property to his employee GV, for $650K. MT "loaned" GV $70K in this purchase. Did FD pay IT back when the house "sold"? Hmm.
What was GV planning to do with this house? Did he live there? Was it an "investment" for him? Was it "payment in kind" for his work at Fore? And oh yeah, what was the master bath shower like there after the renovation? (Spoiler alert, you can see it online in the real estate sites. It's nice but not as nice as the one at 4JC).

This sale to GV/"shady" 5th amendment loan from MT, was just 2 weeks before JD left and filed for divorce. Hmmm.

Employee GV sold the house, at a loss for $595K, 6 months later on Jan 2, 2018, 5 months after JD left and filed for divorce. MT had moved in and made herself at home at 4JC at that point. And, there was for sure a MUCH nicer master shower at 4JC than at 123 Hunter Drive.
Did GV repay MTs "loan" when the house sold? Did FD repay IT when the house sold this time? Did he ever pay IT back? Hmmm.

JD must have had some issue with this property and the transactions around it, because this loan and property sale came up in the divorce case and both GV and the loan officer SM were called as witnesses. SM took the 5th in that case.

Why was there so much urgency for FD to take a loan from his buddy IT in Greece to get hold of this amazing property in spring of 2016? How much profit did this project bring to Fore? Does this purchase/renovation seem like a solid business decision that added to FDs profile as a high-end builder that can speak to CEOs and specializes in luxury properties? How many ft2 were increased in this renovation, what were the upgrades? Permits for electrical were taken out, that must have been a nice upgrade. Paint and finishes were updated. Ka-ching! This was certainly an excellent business decision and must have brought in the green for Fore. Did 123 Hunter Drive win any HOBI awards? Was there a reason that FD didn't ask or use $ loaned from HF for this property? Yet he ran the loan from IT through HFs bank????

Clearly this entire transaction and project stands out like a sore thumb in the usual operations, projects and inventories of Fore (shady as they already are). Clearly FD had to jump through unusual hoops to carry this project off. And then, it disappeared from the radar once MT took the throne at 4 JC.

Did JD share any suspicions/concerns about this transaction/property with her father? What had FD shared with HF about what this funnel loan from IT was going to be used for? Is HF turning over in his grave at the property address of 123 Hunter Drive in the Promissory Note between IT and FD in exhibit 4?

 

[sds71]

Norm Pattis has filed his reply brief in advance of arguments at the State Supreme Court next week regarding the gag order imposed in the Fotis Dulos case. Pattis says the order prevents him from challenging speculation his client is a murderer.
@News12CT

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[Tink56]

Ah, so this money was supposed to be for 123 Hunter Drive purchase and renovation (see Exhibit 4).

Hmm. Ok so let's trace where this money went, from the little we do know.

Summary: FORE/FD bought this house before JD left and filed for divorce. While MT was working for Fore. This house was just 10 minutes away from 4JC and a more "modest" home, not in the McMansion style of JC in the least. This is not a typical Fore property or project in the least. FD sold this house to his "employee" GV just 2 weeks before JD filed for divorce and left. MT then moved into 4JC fall of 2017. GV then sold this house at a $50K loss on 1/2/2018. (All info available in public records.)

Let's dig into the details:
So first, IT loaned FD the $500K to buy and renovate this house on 4/13/16. FD/Fore purchased it on 4/18/16 for $260K. The affair with MT was in full swing, and MT was working for FORE. JD presumably did not know about MT at this point. IT funneled the $ through HFs account it appears.

On 5/31/17, FD "sold" this property to his employee GV, for $650K. MT "loaned" GV $70K in this purchase. Did FD pay IT back when the house "sold"? Hmm.
What was GV planning to do with this house? Did he live there? Was it an "investment" for him? Was it "payment in kind" for his work at Fore? And oh yeah, what was the master bath shower like there after the renovation? (Spoiler alert, you can see it online in the real estate sites. It's nice but not as nice as the one at 4JC).

This sale to GV/"shady" 5th amendment loan from MT, was just 2 weeks before JD left and filed for divorce. Hmmm.

Employee GV sold the house, at a loss for $595K, 6 months later on Jan 2, 2018, 5 months after JD left and filed for divorce. MT had moved in and made herself at home at 4JC at that point. And, there was for sure a MUCH nicer master shower at 4JC than at 123 Hunter Drive.
Did GV repay MTs "loan" when the house sold? Did FD repay IT when the house sold this time? Did he ever pay IT back? Hmmm.

JD must have had some issue with this property and the transactions around it, because this loan and property sale came up in the divorce case and both GV and the loan officer SM were called as witnesses. SM took the 5th in that case.

Why was there so much urgency for FD to take a loan from his buddy IT in Greece to get hold of this amazing property in spring of 2016? How much profit did this project bring to Fore? Does this purchase/renovation seem like a solid business decision that added to FDs profile as a high-end builder that can speak to CEOs and specializes in luxury properties? How many ft2 were increased in this renovation, what were the upgrades? Permits for electrical were taken out, that must have been a nice upgrade. Paint and finishes were updated. Ka-ching! This was certainly an excellent business decision and must have brought in the green for Fore. Did 123 Hunter Drive win any HOBI awards? Was there a reason that FD didn't ask or use $ loaned from HF for this property? Yet he ran the loan from IT through HFs bank????

Clearly this entire transaction and project stands out like a sore thumb in the usual operations, projects and inventories of Fore (shady as they already are). Clearly FD had to jump through unusual hoops to carry this project off. And then, it disappeared from the radar once MT took the throne at 4 JC.

Did JD share any suspicions/concerns about this transaction/property with her father? What had FD shared with HF about what this funnel loan from IT was going to be used for? Is HF turning over in his grave at the property address of 123 Hunter Drive in the Promissory Note between IT and FD in exhibit 4?

Great questions @sleuth66! After looking at the Redfin data, it was never valued at $650,000. Looks like a new kitchen and bathrooms; you mention new electrical, exterior painting as well as interior work. And, in the pictures, the décor features one of MT's dead animal rugs.

JFD was never really interested in being the FoRe interior designer, IMO. And, MT seems to have lacked basic universal taste.

So, if we crunch the numbers....$500K from IT, $260K purchase price...leaves $240K for renovations. There's an inflated selling price of $650. So, that leaves a profit after the return of the loan of $150,000 ($70K which MT gave to GV)....$80K profit??? Then GV sells it for a loss of $55K...from his "purchase price." So, the profit is diminished to $25K....So, with almost 20 months from purchase to GV selling it....that would be about $1K+ plus per month profit....

You're right...Was FD laundering money for IT? It looks like MT involvement clouds the original plans for the house rehab. So many things it would be nice to know...IMO....MOO

 

[CTGrammy]

Something that struck me with the LA deposition was that LA was naming off the children and said Noelle instead of Cleopatra and RM immediately said "Noelle"? I wonder just how big of a deal the name thing was and if JF didn't try to stand her ground showing FD he was losing control over JD.

I had also believed that FD had threatened JD with taking the kids to Greece and was surprised that it was instead HF that he threatened. There seemed to be a lot of disagreements about the children.

Just an observation that shouldn't escalate out of proportion but with FD who knows. MOO

FD said it to both HF and JFd.

To HF, he said that he would take them to Greece.

With JFd, he said that he would take them to a ski resort where everyone wore ski masks.

I am still Amazed that FD Admitted to saying this to HF, Under Oath. He Clearly does not see anything wrong with that statement. I wonder what NP has to say about that.

IMO, these were Not the only occasions that he made This Threat.

IMO.

 

[afitzy]

In complete agreement with JMoose, praying for Judge Noble, Judge Heller, Atty. Weinstein, Atty Dranginis, Grandma Farber, the children, and LA; also Colangelo & Blawie and the investigative team.

(Anybody have, perhaps, maybe, just hypothetically, a voodoo doll or two around the house? Not that I personally would wish harm on any human, of course, especially not any human we've read about here, right? But that corduroy blazer just might not cover a human -- y'know?)

JMHO YMMV LRR but Judge Noble can put the brakes on that one!

@Laughing, SO GLAD to see you back here and with such a perfect post after a rough couple of days watching the civil case!

I want to believe. I really really do. Prayers to the Farber Family and JFd children and prayers also for Justice.

PS. Don't suggest heading to Amazon to find any voodoo dolls as I just cleaned them out! Just kidding!

MOO

 

[Jmoose]

Great questions @sleuth66! After looking at the Redfin data, it was never valued at $650,000. Looks like a new kitchen and bathrooms; you mention new electrical, exterior painting as well as interior work. And, in the pictures, the décor features one of MT's dead animal rugs.

JFD was never really interested in being the FoRe interior designer, IMO. And, MT seems to have lacked basic universal taste.

So, if we crunch the numbers....$500K from IT, $260K purchase price...leaves $240K for renovations. There's an inflated selling price of $650. So, that leaves a profit after the return of the loan of $150,000 ($70K which MT gave to GV)....$80K profit??? Then GV sells it for a loss of $55K...from his "purchase price." So, the profit is diminished to $25K....So, with almost 20 months from purchase to GV selling it....that would be about $1K+ plus per month profit....

You're right...Was FD laundering money for IT? It looks like MT involvement clouds the original plans for the house rehab. So many things it would be nice to know...IMO....MOO

There is, without a doubt, money laundering going on

 

[Jmoose]

Perhaps they were clapping each other on the back that the $5.00 they spent at Staples to create the 'faux invoices' on the way to court that Judge Noble allowed into evidence were a 'good investment' after all if they got $500,000 or so of the judgment reduced. IDK.

Heres a thought as to what MIGHT have been going on:

Atty BM: Great work Fotis with that killer idea about the last minute invoices. I thought Atty Weinstein was going to have a stroke.

Fotis: No loss there and too bad it didn't happen as that guy has been on my for years now. I'm so over him and his really hard and tricky questions. He always is looking for the truth and my god that is so completely EXHAUSTING TO ME!

Fotis: Thanks BM but I can't take full credit for the invoice idea as it originally was the idea of the highly creative and inventive KM. KM is always good for a lark and we'd tried to do this before but for some reason Atty Weinstein kept asking for more and more information and we could never substantiate the invoices. It was SO ANNOYING but we had to give up. Who would have thought that Judge Noble would just take the invoices outside of the normal discovery process! Rules are so for peasants and people with Public Defenders but I've got you guys and you are the BEST!

Pattis: You guys are just brilliant! Its been like watching paint dry in here for 2 days and then you come up with the idea of creating invoices and then the SPARKS START TO FLY.

Atty BM: Can't believe Noble bought it all, what a putz.

Pattis: Yes, total putz but only you could have pulled it off BM it was brilliant work.

Fotis to both Pattis and BM: You guys are the best! If we lose do I still have to pay you?

Pattis: Fotis there are no worries as your 'sister' loaded up the bank yesterday and as they say, "THE GREEN IS IN".

Fotis to Pattis: Yes, I've been teaching my sister about Bitcoin for years and years now and she is very well trained on how to move money around and its so brilliant because they don't even look at thumb drives coming through immigration.

Fotis to Pattis: Do you think we can make a run at full custody now? I'm feeling great after this victory and think we can take on that toughie Judge Heller but I have to admit that Atty Dranginis is more than a bit scary and I don't think either she or Judge Heller like me or YOU Pattis!

Pattis: Are you INSANE???????????????????? Nope they both hate me but it doesn't matter because I hate them both MORE! Let's go find some Reporters to yell at, I'm kinda out of practice but maybe we will find a live one today to simply attack and degrade.

Fotis: I'm game, I felt like punching that reporter that got in my way with the camera this morning. I kept wanting to push him to the ground and stomp on him.

Pattis: Please don't Fotis, just please don't.

Atty BM: I'm off to pop a few at a bar down the street. Either of you guys want to join me?

Fotis: Sure BM, I'll be there as soon as I get the thumb drive with the bitcoin info from my 'sister' and ditch her. Maybe we can go to a club later on?

Atty BM: Absolutely, we have lot's to celebrate.

Pattis: Guys, no drunk driving, no drugs and whatever you do please don't let a person take your photo!

Fotis: Sure Granddad!

Total MOO

You are hilarious!