Silver Alert CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #33

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I think I am one of the few who doesn't care if the gag order is lifted. Ducking tomatoes here. :D.
Let's see more interviews with Fotis Dulos.
Even better, let's see an interview with Michelle Troconis.
Allow Mr.Pattis to talk!
Let them talk and talk and talk.
I am listening.
MOO.
 
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Glad to see these two are smiling and happy-go-lucky. I wonder what they will look like when their daughter/sister are on trial for murder...??? moo
Probably a nervous laugh. No sense in MT buying more clothes for these ever so brief court appearances, IMO, soon she will be wearing the same outfit everyday.
 
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Fotis Dulos' ex-girlfriend Michelle Troconis appears in court | Daily Mail Online
 
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GF. Was she there?
Yes she was about to play whack a ho on MTs head but a guard stopped her

No the DM took that pic of her yesterday in front of her apt
They have a pic of FD in the article also
 
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I think I am one of the few who doesn't care if the gag order is lifted. Ducking tomatoes here. :D.
Let's see more interviews with Fotis Dulos.
Even better, let's see an interview with Michelle Troconis.
Allow Mr.Pattis to talk!
Let them talk and talk and talk.
I am listening.
MOO.
Check your front door for an upcoming delivery of 2 bushels of tomatoes! ;););););););););)

Seriously though on the topic of conversation of the parties with the Press I have to say the gag order hasn't made much of any difference here on WS. In this sad case we don't really have a functioning investigative Press Group asking tough questions and doing research at all. We simply had Atty. P. out spouting word salad IMO that was offensive to the victim and the victims family.

I don't think much of what is known here on WS has actually come from anything said by Atty. P. as most of what he has said is simply untruthful or as he likes to say, "WILD SPECULATION".

It has taken months to sort through the damage done to the narrative by the Hartford Courant and Dave Altimari 'reposting' Atty. P. 'alibi script' lies. We had to make the decision to go back to AW info as we couldn't place any trust in the reporting of Dave Altimari given his sourcing issues IMO. It was a total mess and wasted huge amounts of peoples time. But what is so unforgivable IMO is that the Hartford Courant and Dave Altimari have never gone back and adjusted any of the articles impacted by the FD and MT 'alibi script' lies. So, those articles are out in the public domain to confuse people and that is just what Atty. P. wants to have happen IMO. To see the Hartford Courant and Dave Altimari in collusion with Atty. P. to spread misinformation was something I never ever would thought possible. But, we have seen it happen with our own eyes here unfortunately.

LE is to blame here as well as they never have cared about the public narrative of the case and IMO I think this is a huge mistake too. I stupidly thought that the changing of the generational guard with the CT State Police might have some impact in their relationship with the citizen of CT. But what we have seen in the Dulos case and others, sadly has me believing that zero has changed with regard to the CT State Police relationship with the public. We saw Spokesperson Foley from the CT State Police speak a few times and since then its been radio silence. We will see how this decision from CT State Police works in the long term as its early days yet in this case and the investigation remains active.

MT and Atty Bowman have been blessedly quiet so no news there.

FD Sarah Wallace and Dateline interviews IMO will go down as major exhibits for the Prosecution at trial eventually as will the testimony with yet more untruth in the Civil Trial. Then you drag out the huge Family Court file on FD and I'm honestly not sure what else is left to say as to who and what FD is and I think he called it right when he referred to himself as a 'monster'.

We then have a gag order in place and what does FD do? He wishes Jennifer Dulos Happy Holidays on the steps outside of Court after the Civil trial. IMO this deserves an entire courtroom dialog by itself and I just might do it later as I truly wonder if FD has lost his mind and whether Atty. P. or anyone in Pattisville recommended the defiance of the gag order to wish Jennifer Happy Holidays?

Sure there will no doubt be other players added to this tragic and sorry tale and we no doubt haven't met them yet or maybe we have kinda/sorta/maybe? IDK.

My point is that the players involved have only a vague limited grasp on the truth and IMO really are zero help in tracking this case or exploring the questions around what happened to JFd.

I'd love to see active press involvement and ongoing pressers from LE but we have never had that in this case ever. I wish it were different but CT is well, CT is all I can say and I'm sure they are doing the best that is possible given their circumstance.

MOO
 
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Ah, so this money was supposed to be for 123 Hunter Drive purchase and renovation (see Exhibit 4).

Hmm. Ok so let's trace where this money went, from the little we do know.

Summary: FORE/FD bought this house before JD left and filed for divorce. While MT was working for Fore. This house was just 10 minutes away from 4JC and a more "modest" home, not in the McMansion style of JC in the least. This is not a typical Fore property or project in the least. FD sold this house to his "employee" GV just 2 weeks before JD filed for divorce and left. MT then moved into 4JC fall of 2017. GV then sold this house at a $50K loss on 1/2/2018. (All info available in public records.)

Let's dig into the details:
So first, IT loaned FD the $500K to buy and renovate this house on 4/13/16. FD/Fore purchased it on 4/18/16 for $260K. The affair with MT was in full swing, and MT was working for FORE. JD presumably did not know about MT at this point. IT funneled the $ through HFs account it appears.

On 5/31/17, FD "sold" this property to his employee GV, for $650K. MT "loaned" GV $70K in this purchase. Did FD pay IT back when the house "sold"? Hmm.
What was GV planning to do with this house? Did he live there? Was it an "investment" for him? Was it "payment in kind" for his work at Fore? And oh yeah, what was the master bath shower like there after the renovation? (Spoiler alert, you can see it online in the real estate sites. It's nice but not as nice as the one at 4JC).

This sale to GV/"shady" 5th amendment loan from MT, was just 2 weeks before JD left and filed for divorce. Hmmm.

Employee GV sold the house, at a loss for $595K, 6 months later on Jan 2, 2018, 5 months after JD left and filed for divorce. MT had moved in and made herself at home at 4JC at that point. And, there was for sure a MUCH nicer master shower at 4JC than at 123 Hunter Drive.
Did GV repay MTs "loan" when the house sold? Did FD repay IT when the house sold this time? Did he ever pay IT back? Hmmm.

JD must have had some issue with this property and the transactions around it, because this loan and property sale came up in the divorce case and both GV and the loan officer SM were called as witnesses. SM took the 5th in that case.

Why was there so much urgency for FD to take a loan from his buddy IT in Greece to get hold of this amazing property in spring of 2016? How much profit did this project bring to Fore? Does this purchase/renovation seem like a solid business decision that added to FDs profile as a high-end builder that can speak to CEOs and specializes in luxury properties? How many ft2 were increased in this renovation, what were the upgrades? Permits for electrical were taken out, that must have been a nice upgrade. Paint and finishes were updated. Ka-ching! This was certainly an excellent business decision and must have brought in the green for Fore. Did 123 Hunter Drive win any HOBI awards? Was there a reason that FD didn't ask or use $ loaned from HF for this property? Yet he ran the loan from IT through HFs bank????

Clearly this entire transaction and project stands out like a sore thumb in the usual operations, projects and inventories of Fore (shady as they already are). Clearly FD had to jump through unusual hoops to carry this project off. And then, it disappeared from the radar once MT took the throne at 4 JC.

Did JD share any suspicions/concerns about this transaction/property with her father? What had FD shared with HF about what this funnel loan from IT was going to be used for? Is HF turning over in his grave at the property address of 123 Hunter Drive in the Promissory Note between IT and FD in exhibit 4?

Good sleuthing. I hope MSM sees this.
 
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People have mentioned the change in MT's face. She's wore a large sweater last time and again today. Surely, surely, surely....she isn't pregnant...right????
So funny! I was just going to post about the Muppet Sweater shot and today's shot with her family totally surrounding her and the side shot in court with the grey sweater. Mmmmmm.

WHO IS THE FATHER????? Wonder what FD might know or not? How do you convey pregnancy when there is a strict no contact order in place? Curious. Good luck getting child support from FD if its true though so the laugh is sadly on MT here if she thought the pot of gold was in sight! I'm not too concerned though because I firmly believe that a good portion of the pot of gold has already been divided up and Atty Weinstein knows precisely where it all is!

Can you imagine if there will now be a baby in this tragic cesspool with MT and FD?

As Nancy Grace would say, "BOMBSHELL"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MOO
 
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Check your front door for an upcoming delivery of 2 bushels of tomatoes! ;););););););););)

Seriously though on the topic of conversation of the parties with the Press I have to say the gag order hasn't made much of any difference here on WS. In this sad case we don't really have a functioning investigative Press Group asking tough questions and doing research at all. We simply had Atty. P. out spouting word salad IMO that was offensive to the victim and the victims family.

I don't think much of what is known here on WS has actually come from anything said by Atty. P. as most of what he has said is simply untruthful or as he likes to say, "WILD SPECULATION".

MT and Atty Bowman have been blessedly quiet so no news there.

FD Sarah Wallace and Dateline interviews IMO will go down as major exhibits for the Prosecution at trial eventually as will the testimony with yet more untruth in the Civil Trial. Then you drag out the huge Family Court file on FD and I'm honestly not sure what else is left to say as to who and what FD is and I think he called it right when he referred to himself as a 'monster'.

We then have a gag order in place and what does FD do? He wishes Jennifer Dulos Happy Holidays on the steps outside of Court after the Civil trial. IMO this deserves an entire courtroom dialog by itself and I just might do it later as I truly wonder if FD has lost his mind and whether Atty. P. or anyone in Pattisville recommended the defiance of the gag order to wish Jennifer Happy Holidays?

Sure there will no doubt be other players added to this tragic and sorry tale and we no doubt haven't met them yet or maybe we have kinda/sorta/maybe? IDK.

My point is that the players involved have only a vague limited grasp on the truth and IMO really are zero help in tracking this case or exploring the questions around what happened to JFd.

I'd love to see active press involvement and ongoing pressers from LE but we have never had that in this case ever. I wish it were different but CT is well, CT is all I can say and I'm sure they are doing the best that is possible given their circumstance.

MOO
BBM.
Exactly what I am talking about!
Let them speak and add to the major exhibits.
 
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Glad to see these two are smiling and happy-go-lucky. I wonder what they will look like when their daughter/sister are on trial for murder...??? moo
Probably a nervous laugh. No sense in MT buying more clothes for these ever so brief court appearances, IMO, soon she will be wearing the same outfit everyday.
Is that GF?? She came for this appearance? God Bless her sweet soul....
 
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Probably a nervous laugh. No sense in MT buying more clothes for these ever so brief court appearances, IMO, soon she will be wearing the same outfit everyday.

Is that GF?? She came for this appearance? God Bless her sweet soul....
No the DM took a pic of her in front of her apt
 
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I think I am one of the few who doesn't care if the gag order is lifted. Ducking tomatoes here. :D.
Let's see more interviews with Fotis Dulos.
Even better, let's see an interview with Michelle Troconis.
Allow Mr.Pattis to talk!
Let them talk and talk and talk.
I am listening.
MOO.
I would agree with you if there weren't children involved, and if the lies and conspiracy theories spoken by Norm Pattis, his client Fotis Dulos, et al were not so emotionally harmful to those children.

They don't particularly care about that, nor does the media, it seems. Thankfully, the court is protecting them in this case.
 
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People have mentioned the change in MT's face. She's wore a large sweater last time and again today. Surely, surely, surely....she isn't pregnant...right????

Better add a few MOOS...MOO...IMO
Pretty wild thought. I would not think either of them would be so irresponsible.

Wait - yes, I would think they'd be that irresponsible. But it seems too outrageous to be likely.

If true, it certainly would be a strong motive to get Jennifer out of the way. Very strong, particularly on Michelle Troconis's part.
 
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