Silver Alert CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #33

[sds71]

Advocate:
Fotis Dulos wants his divorce dismissed as he appeals a recent probate court decision that took away guardianship of his five children from him and his estranged missing wife.

The impact of the probate court ruling gives his mother-in-law, Gloria Farber, all decision-making powers for the five Dulos children, according to court papers filed Friday by attorney Richard Rochlin, representing Fotis Dulos in his divorce.

Rochlin is appealing the guardianship ruling, which will be heard in juvenile court before a Superior Court judge on Jan. 9. Rochlin is also seeking a dismissal of the pending two-and-a-half year divorce, which has not proceeded due to the seven-month disappearance of Jennifer Dulos.

Fotis Dulos has been banned from contacting his children as part of the conditions of his release on bail for charges of tampering with evidence and hindering prosecution in his estranged wife’s May 24 disappearance.

Farber has been caring for the children in her Manhattan apartment since her daughter went missing and is seeking permanent custody of them.

If the divorce was dismissed, it would pave the way for one judge to decide on custody issues instead of the three who have been overseeing the probate, criminal and divorce cases.
Jennifer Dulos disappearance: Fotis Dulos appeals mother-in-law getting guardianship

 

[waldojabba]

Fotis Dulos seeks to end divorce case with missing wife, Jennifer Farber Dulos, and take fight over guardianship of children to juvenile court

 

[sds71]

Dulos V. Dulos Motions

 

[Chicago54]

What if Judge Nobel is allowing Everything IN, so that Fd/Pattisville has no recourse for appeal when he finds in favor of the Plaintiff?

It is the Only thing that makes sense, otherwise, I am at a loss for words.

IMO.

Rationally, it’s the only reason I can wrap my head around. Problem is, “irrational” better defines all things Dulos. Once I think there is a rational explanation, legal process or law that may be enforced, I put it out of my head and just wait for the other shoe to drop.
In this case, if without any procedural grounds to appeal, FD may try appealing based on poor?insane?corrupt? goofy?representation by squirrels.

 

[Jmoose]

Dulos V. Dulos Motions

The loving father of 5 children? And he only exhibits it when the cameras are on (and doesn’t show it-he just states that it is so)...he can’t show it in the ways other fathers show it, by financially supporting them, by not exposing them to abusive behavior, by not killing their mother?

 

[Tink56]

Advocate:
Fotis Dulos wants his divorce dismissed as he appeals a recent probate court decision that took away guardianship of his five children from him and his estranged missing wife.

The impact of the probate court ruling gives his mother-in-law, Gloria Farber, all decision-making powers for the five Dulos children, according to court papers filed Friday by attorney Richard Rochlin, representing Fotis Dulos in his divorce.

Rochlin is appealing the guardianship ruling, which will be heard in juvenile court before a Superior Court judge on Jan. 9. Rochlin is also seeking a dismissal of the pending two-and-a-half year divorce, which has not proceeded due to the seven-month disappearance of Jennifer Dulos.

Fotis Dulos has been banned from contacting his children as part of the conditions of his release on bail for charges of tampering with evidence and hindering prosecution in his estranged wife’s May 24 disappearance.

Farber has been caring for the children in her Manhattan apartment since her daughter went missing and is seeking permanent custody of them.

If the divorce was dismissed, it would pave the way for one judge to decide on custody issues instead of the three who have been overseeing the probate, criminal and divorce cases.
Jennifer Dulos disappearance: Fotis Dulos appeals mother-in-law getting guardianship

Initial reaction---OMG! Haven't had time to read and fully understand all of this, but I'm fascinated by the statement that the plaintiff has had primary physical custody since March 2018. HUH!

Also, I didn't know/remember about the probate court hearing granting GF primary custody and ending FD's parental rights. FD DID NOT attend that hearing. Now he gets on the docket in juvenile court for January 9th??? FD is due in CRIMINAL court that day.....Any legal minds out there....help, please. Where's @gitana1??

 

[pernickety]

Honestly, this Pattisville Circus has gone from 3 rings to 4 rings IMO. Time for the Circus to leave the town too IMO and just keep moving.

Atty Weinstein in his motion explains that he believes what he is experiencing in court is a "...trial by ambush" as he did not know about the counterclaims until AFTER trial and so is unable to defend against them by submitting evidence to refute them.

EXACTLY!

I very much wonder if Judge Noble might need a refresher course on basic Procedure as between the photocopied invoices submitted by Fd/Pattisville and now this post trial counterclaim I really have to seriously question Judge Nobles ability to manage a trial AND his courtroom as this situation IMO is absolutely ridiculous and inappropriate given the rules of the Court and on the face of things these frivolous motions by Fd/Pattisville which have no merit and waste Courts time should simply be tossed.

I do wonder if this all isn't just another last ditch attempt by Pattisville to either appeal themselves or force Atty Weinstein to appeal? Atty. P. stood on the courtroom steps on the day after Trial in Hartford and said that this case was a simple difference of opinion between the parties (facts say otherwise IMO) and that Fd had no intention of making a counterclaim against FIL Estate (well, Pattisville turned around and did precisely this!).

Either Atty. P. didn't have a clue what was going on with Fd or he wound up Fd to make the counterclaim post trial (against basic court procedure allowance IMO) to simply generate some more $$ while Fd has some cash.

I guess the truth and court procedures are both things in short supply in Pattisville. Is there no rule that can't or won't be broken by Pattisville? How low will the bar of compliance with requirements for procedural compliance go in Pattisville? I guess though we haven't reached the bottom yet as if you are an officer of the court and you are 'ok' signing someone else's signature on an affidavit such as Atty. P. did by his own admission in the Jones case then there really is no end to what might be in store for us to sadly watch with Pattisville in 2020.

I keep waiting for some Judge somewhere is simply make the playing field in court level as if one side twists the rules, doesn't comply with the rules or conveniently applies the rules then I'm not sure how the system works. As we have seen, the system doesn't punish non compliance with its rules. Its sad but it seems to be the way of things in CT.

I do hope Judge Noble gets it together and WAKES UP as IMO this entire Civil Case process wasn't really a process so much as a disorganised mess and his inability to maintain control of his courtroom has left the case close to shambles even after the trial completed.

Sad to say but its just another example of the state of things in CT Courtrooms. Watching this has been an eye opener and I do hope the Senior Judiciary are watching too as the ongoing lack of respect and enforcement of procedure is unlike anything I've ever seen.

MOO

I wonder if they remembered to pay the filing fee for the counterclaim? They made a big deal of it when Weinstein forgot to pay a filing fee for a pleading he filed.

 

[CTGrammy]

Dulos V. Dulos Motions

Not sure if you noticed, but attachment 4 and 5 are identical.

Thanks.

 

[sds71]

Dulos v. Dulos
541.00 12/26/2019 P MOTION FOR COUNSEL FEES PENDENTE LITE

 

[sds71]

Not sure if you noticed, but attachment 4 and 5 are identical.

Thanks.

Here’s the 5th page of the Motion

 

[Jmoose]

Initial reaction---OMG! Haven't had time to read and fully understand all of this, but I'm fascinated by the statement that the plaintiff has had primary physical custody since March 2018. HUH!



Also, I didn't know/remember about the probate court hearing granting GF primary custody and ending FD's parental rights. FD DID NOT attend that hearing. Now he gets on the docket in juvenile court for January 9th??? FD is due in CRIMINAL court that day.....Any legal minds out there....help, please. Where's @gitana1??

I also couldn’t understand why he chose not to attend the November hearing that granted custody to GF. Why would he have deliberately missed that hearing? Would he have been questioned in any way? Was he just trying to avoid being embarrassed to his face about his total lack of regard for and support of his children?

 

[BellaVita]

To see ongoing mistruths/shaded truths and outright lying from a Defendant under oath is something that I am having a lot of difficulty with as we watch the CT Courts operate. Taking the oath to tell the truth and the WHOLE TRUTH when on the stand is a fundamental aspect of the US judicial system and it seems Fd simply doesn't care as he seems to have his own delusional understanding of the truth. I do very much wonder whether Fd has the ability to tell truth from lie? I think Judge Heller also questioned Fd's ability to tell the truth and so she ruled accordingly in Family Court. I hope Judge Noble take a tip from Judge Heller and rules accordingly in the Civil Case. I also wonder whether Fd is simply a pathological liar? IDK but truth at best is a convenient concept in the mind of Fd IMO.

MOO[/QUOTE]
RSBM: These Malignant N/Sociopaths need to heavily defend their own psyches from the fact that they are terrible people. Pathological lying is number 1 trait of these people. I showed the ex incontrovertible evidence of a second cell phone and he told me the date on the text was 2013 even though it clearly showed 2015. REALLY???? I have no idea how he expects to win the case currently in court as there is so much evidence against him. FD has crossed someone, GF, who is far more cunning with better lawyers. Is it better for GF mentally to let this go? IDK. Maybe. This type of battle comes with heavy emotional cost.

 

[NCmom99]

To see ongoing mistruths/shaded truths and outright lying from a Defendant under oath is something that I am having a lot of difficulty with as we watch the CT Courts operate. Taking the oath to tell the truth and the WHOLE TRUTH when on the stand is a fundamental aspect of the US judicial system and it seems Fd simply doesn't care as he seems to have his own delusional understanding of the truth. I do very much wonder whether Fd has the ability to tell truth from lie? I think Judge Heller also questioned Fd's ability to tell the truth and so she ruled accordingly in Family Court. I hope Judge Noble take a tip from Judge Heller and rules accordingly in the Civil Case. I also wonder whether Fd is simply a pathological liar? IDK but truth at best is a convenient concept in the mind of Fd IMO.

MOO

RSBM: These Malignant N/Sociopaths need to heavily defend their own psyches from the fact that they are terrible people. Pathological lying is number 1 trait of these people. I showed the ex incontrovertible evidence of a second cell phone and he told me the date on the text was 2013 even though it clearly showed 2015. REALLY???? I have no idea how he expects to win the case currently in court as there is so much evidence against him. FD has crossed someone, GF, who is far more cunning with better lawyers. Is it better for GF mentally to let this go? IDK. Maybe. This type of battle comes with heavy emotional cost.[/QUOTE]

Agree, when up against someone determined to win at any cost with no respect for the truth it can become a matter of finding the safest part of the roller coaster to jump off when you just can't take the ride any longer. I'm sorry you've had to hang on for so long and hope the court supports you!

 

[Chicago54]

Initial reaction---OMG! Haven't had time to read and fully understand all of this, but I'm fascinated by the statement that the plaintiff has had primary physical custody since March 2018. HUH!

Also, I didn't know/remember about the probate court hearing granting GF primary custody and ending FD's parental rights. FD DID NOT attend that hearing. Now he gets on the docket in juvenile court for January 9th??? FD is due in CRIMINAL court that day.....Any legal minds out there....help, please. Where's @gitana1??

IMO, every single move in any court is working under one big strategy umbrella. Could this possible be a move designed to prey upon the emotions on honorable, moralistic, and humane LE officials who may be horrified at the aspect of FD putting more pressure on the grandmother and caretaker of his children and/or getting custody? Is it really nothing more than an attempt to force an arrest for murder and try to undermine whatever strategy apparently is important to LE and the DA?
Because IMO that is truly what NP wants, the arrest, the discovery and the clock to start ticking. If this had ANYTHING to do with FD wanting to father his children, IMO, he would have been at the initial hearing, and JD would not have disappeared the weekend of his first weekend with the kids after months of absence.

 

[SkylarSid]

I am getting the feeling that Noble isn’t going to get it together; the sense I am getting is that he might find equal amounts of fault on both parties-as if the Farbers are as equally sloppy in their business dealings as FD and co. At least, it wouldn’t surprise me even a little if he does. Starting to get depressed that nobody in the CT Judiciary is smart and motivated enough to wade through the messes typically created by people like FD and his legal “team”.

I don’t think the GF camp is getting sloppy. They got blindsided in court by the FD claim that there was money owed on the Pound Ridge construction. And today he has filed for custody. This is a man that would make the Alamo look like child’s play. I just pray AW3 comes very soon so he can get the message of game over!

 

[BellaVita]

I don’t think the GF camp is getting sloppy. They got blindsided in court by the FD claim that there was money owed on the Pound Ridge construction. And today he has filed for custody. This is a man that would make the Alamo look like child’s play. I just pray AW3 comes very soon so he can get the message of game over!

They are NOT sloppy, IMO. It can never be predicted what someone like FD will come up with. I have the greatest lawyer around and still, you can never account for what someone like FD will pull. My lawyer had 2 different Final Judgments ready to present to the court because we had no idea if he would show up. If he would have shown up, I would have asked for nothing just to get things over with. Didn't show up so now has very large judgment against him. Now claims he never got the papers, lol. I know a little about what GF is going through. She is never going to come out even financially. It's not about that though. JMO.

 

[Laughing]

Weinstein & Dranginis, anxiously awaiting your moves here!

JMHO YMMV LRR

 

[Jmoose]

I don’t think the GF camp is getting sloppy. They got blindsided in court by the FD claim that there was money owed on the Pound Ridge construction. And today he has filed for custody. This is a man that would make the Alamo look like child’s play. I just pray AW3 comes very soon so he can get the message of game over!

I agree that Team GF is anything but sloppy, but I have been surprised before, by the rulings of judges who seem to be missing the entire point of things, in an effort to be perceived of as “fair”. The only truly right and fair thing for Judge Noble to do, is to find for the plaintiff, GF, in entirety-but I don’t necessarily think he will do that. And in any event, she won’t see a dime of the money anyway. But GF may not care about that; this is about tying up all of the loose ends, IMO, before the murder charge comes down. She knows she won’t ever get that money.

 

[BellaVita]

I agree that Team GF is anything but sloppy, but I have been surprised before, by the rulings of judges who seem to be missing the entire point of things, in an effort to be perceived of as “fair”. The only truly right and fair thing for Judge Noble to do, is to find for the plaintiff, GF, in entirety-but I don’t necessarily think he will do that. And in any event, she won’t see a dime of the money anyway. But GF may not care about that; this is about tying up all of the loose ends, IMO, before the murder charge comes down. She knows she won’t ever get that money.

1000 likes. IMO, GF cares ZERO about the money. It's the principle.

 

[Tink56]

1000 likes. IMO, GF cares ZERO about the money. It's the principle.

And, the children....Attorney Weinstein said after an appearance earlier this year, the case was about having something left for the kids.

FD wants to abandon the divorce so he'll be the beneficiary of the children's trusts and anything that JFd might have left of value. And, the greatest reason is to TORTURE GF in any way possible. There's something horribly wrong with FD's legal team. Winning (isn't that something that JFd mentioned in the divorce) is all that matters to Fd and his team....regardless of the lies, whitewashed truths, and manipulation of the legal system and the timing of these motions to coincide with the holidays.

Karma...where are you? Hopefully, 2020 will bring Justice for Jennifer!

MOO...IMO