Deceased/Not Found CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #36

[afitzy]

Are those renderings?

FORE plays around a lot IMO with its online photos. Its usually most visible IMO with the exterior shots but they do it possibly with the interior shots as well.

Take a look at these 'photos' from the FORE website of 80 MS. I'm not sure whether they are actual or renderings which can be done to spec for a buyer?

Can anyone tell?

80 Mountain Spring - Fore Group Inc.

 

[Nanobody]

IMO the renders Fore Group uses look far more fake. Here is an example. Something is weird about the furniture, photoshop maybe? But I think the photos are real.

 

[afitzy]

Yes. It is definitely a lot to ponder. How did FD enter the home? Did JD come into the home and was assaulted inside the laundry room area and drug to the garage leaving the home? Did she never make it into the home from the garage? Those are good questions and obviously ones that are important.

So according to AW3 of FD: Section for Lauren Almeidi (full-time nanny of JD hired by JD in 2013):
1. Mudroom Door: LA states that on 5/22 when she was preparing with JD for FD visit which was to take place outside the house in the rear yard that the food had been placed on rear patio table and the mudroom door locked to prevent FD from entering the kitchen. (Earlier LittleBitty confused the mudroom as being near the garage. It is not. Separate from the garage/laundry room entry). LA was at the JD residence on two separate times during the lunch time hours of 5/24. On the second visit (at 12:43 pm) where she had picked up the four kids (one child went directly to a friend's house) and fed them in the kitchen she noticed that the rear mudroom door (leading to the outside yard--which is always locked unless the kids are playing in the yard) is unlocked. LA locks it and at this point sends a text to JD at 1:10pm that they are leaving for NY (LA and kids) and will arrive around 2:30.
2. The purse: LA first arrives at 69 Welles Lane at 11:30 am and opens the center garage bay with a keypad (as usual) and notices that the Chevy Suburban is gone but that the Range Rover which JD had told her the night before JD would take to NY because it was smaller and easier to park is in the garage. She notices JD's handbag is on the floor between the Mudroom and the Kitchen.
3. Granola bar and Mug of Tea: When LA arrived at 11:30 am she noticed an unopened granola bar and a mug of tea on the kitchen counter. LA washed the mug of tea in the kitchen sink and noticed that the paper towel roll near sink needed to be replaced and goes to pantry and finds that of the 12 paper towel rolls she had placed in the pantry only the night before there are only 2 left.
After the first visit LA leaves to go pick up the four kids at their school. The fifth child went directly to a friend's house. After the pick up LA arrives back at 69 Welles Lane and feeds the kids in the kitchen.

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Sorry I am a detail girl. Possible explanation for mug of tea and unopened granola bar. JD may have been sitting in the kitchen waiting on the kiddos and started the tea but never had a chance to open the granola bar. Because all the kids were ready. Since JD intended to come back to her home after dropping them off...this seems to be the easiest explanation for me anyway.
It is possible that she made it into the house after dropping off the kiddos and was preparing a quick snack before heading to NY and was startled by someone in the side yard and went to investigate...but I just struggle with this.
Possible explanation for the purse being on the floor between the mudroom and kitchen area....FD placed it there. Perhaps in part because he was in a hurry and not thinking OR he wanted it to appear suspicious? Hence, he also unlocked the mudroom door as well?

I admit I have no clue what FD may have been thinking if he indeed placed the purse and unlocked the mudroom door *his dna is found on that same door near the lock plate* so maybe he did it at the last moment at the end of the cleanup? Or maybe he thought he'd make it look like someone attacked JD (remember he thought he was in the clear with leaving his phone behind at 4Jax and KM for a meeting alibi and using the Toyota Tacoma and parking it where there are no cameras *except ones on the bus he had no clue about which caught the Toyota's parking spot* and using the bicycle and hoodie disguise to approach JD property) and kidnapped her. He knew he would have to take JD suburban but as he was doing this all alone (if he had had help from another party for the killing aspect of all this someone could have driven the suburban well far away from that Waveny location and made it like less easy to find?) maybe he panicked? Maybe he wanted it to look like someone attacked JD in the home and stole her car and kidnapped her?
I have no clue. Like I said. These are all extremely good questions.
I just think honestly that FD wanted NO PART of JD purse whatsoever. JMO. So he left it there. Now whether he placed it there is a far different matter but I tend to believe that the struggle didn't take place in the home. JMO.

Maybe the purse at home story line might also fit with Fd plan to possibly jog into Waveny to dispose of JFd phone to set the stage for the 'abducted in park scenario' and which might have led LE on a goose chase for a week in Waveny which would also have fit in with Fd plans as he had work to do with MT at 80 MS?

Perhaps he left the purse at 69/71 Welles because Jfd didn't always use the purse and also because he didn't know the she was heading into the City where it would have been more likely IMO that she took the purse vs her usual routine of wallet and phone when in CT?

He probably knew what she usually did with regard to her use of the purse. I'm sure LA knew too how JFd used her purse so when LA saw the purse there she was shocked as she knew JFD would have definitely taken it with her on the trip into City.

MOO

 

[joypath]

Yes, @joypath but do you think they didn't do a quick luminol test as what might have been on the axe appeared clearly to be blood and so it was tagged and set off for full testing?

I had asked the earlier question about luminol and prelim chem testing and whether it can impact later DNA testing or results? I could swear that in other cases we have seen sample degradation due to use of luminol but I honestly don't remember if this is the case.

Thanks!

Luminol is a complex reagent CAN interfere with protein & enzymes in the environment. Frequently a sterile swab, either wet or dry, is splayed on the suspect surface before testing thus presenting a "pure" exemplar. Think of it as a "back up" specimen. Yep, luminol CAN cause issue with DNA retrieval but not as much as in "the old days" since amplification techniques have improved dramatically!

The entire field of crime scene analysis/collection is expanding by leaps & bounds from back in my Med Tech days!

 

[LittleBitty]

When did Jennifer's mother file lawsuit over the loans her father had given to him? I think that lawsuit was the catalyst for both the murder and for hiding assets because Fd knew there would be no way he could win the lawsuit and he murdered Jennifer so she couldn't testify against him about the circumstances of those loans.

JMO

As per information gleamed from a variety of sources and my own notes: GF first filed a complaint in CT court v. FD on behalf of HF estate in January 2018 for $500,000. The complaint was later revised to $2.3 million. In February of 2019, GF also filed on behalf of HF estate against Fore Group, Inc.
It is important to note that Hilliard Farber passed away January 8, 2017 at the age of 83 and it says he died peacefully at home. Later on that year, JD learns of MT and files for divorce from FD in June of 2017 and also requests a GAL be appointed for the custody issues. In July 2017, JD also files for an Emergency order of Protection claiming to be in fear of her husband.
In March 2018, Judge Donna Heller ruled that FD had lied to the court and put his children in danger (this is where he basically has no visitation for nearly a year).

 

[Alkali13]

Question: FD treated JFd in such a way that she was afraid for her life.

Why is it assumed that he doesn't treat MT the same way?

 

[citygirl]

Wait... Is that what 80MS actually looks like inside? That's HIDEOUS.

Those are the photos before it was renovated.

 

[afitzy]

When did Jennifer's mother file lawsuit over the loans her father had given to him? I think that lawsuit was the catalyst for both the murder and for hiding assets because Fd knew there would be no way he could win the lawsuit and he murdered Jennifer so she couldn't testify against him about the circumstances of those loans.

JMO

@MyBelle, glad you have joined along here! Look forward to hearing your thoughts on this tragic case.

Sadly the CT Judiciary look up site is down at the moment to give you the exact date the Civil Court case started but my recollection is that the lawsuit happened shortly after the Divorce Action (divorce started in 2017 I believe). Link to lookup exact dates: Case Look-up CT Judicial Branch

Attached below please find an article about the Fd testimony in the Civil Case done by Dave Altimari which surprisingly for him IMO actually demonstrates some research was done to put the article together - kudos to DA! I hadn't seen this particular DA article previously but the financial information discussed is consistent IMO with what was in the Family Court case.

New documents show Fotis Dulos had more than $4 million in financial liabilities weeks before his estranged wife Jennifer Farber Dulos disappeared; Dulos says the documents are misleading

Fotis Dulos arrives at court for second day of civil trial | Daily Mail Online

 

[citygirl]

This explanation is consistent with what we know so far, except why were her purse, the cup of tea and an unfinished granola bar in the kitchen? She could have left the food on the counter before she took the kids to school, but what about her purse? Did she go inside, taking the purse with her, hear something, open the door to investigate, and was ambushed as soon as she did so?

The only problem with that theory is that, given the danger she knew he posed to her, would she have gone into the garage if she heard a noise, or would she instead have immediately picked up the phone and called the police? Also, if he wanted Dulos wanted anyone to believe his ludicrous Gone Girl scenario, why did he leave her purse in the kitchen? Didn't he know the presence of the purse was going to set off all kinds of alarms?

Based on the clear evidence, the assault clearly took place in the garage. How does the location of her purse in the kitchen fit into this narrative? That question has been bugging me. It doesn't change the fact that Dulos is guilty, of course, but it does tell us something about how the attack went down. I just don't know what yet.

It's thrown me, too.
My only explanation is that she left those behind when she made the school run.
She let her guard down, maybe even left the garage door open.
The Gone Girl theory, IMO, didn't come from FD.
It came from Norm.

 

[Mimi in London]

Haha! I wonder if the security code for the security system at 4Jx and 80MS is 0000!

Gotta love stupid criminals!

MOO

How many people use the same security code for several of their devices/bank cards? Is it possible that Fd changed his phone PIN to 0000 before he handed it to LE, so LE wouldn’t be able to access his other data quickly?

And is it possible that is what Pyetranker was doing while he was outside with FD’s phone? I’m guessing that, as an attorney, he can’t go deleting info from his client’s phone. But maybe there’s nothing unethical about changing the PIN.

 

[LittleBitty]

Maybe the purse at home story line might also fit with Fd plan to possibly jog into Waveny to dispose of JFd phone to set the stage for the 'abducted in park scenario' and which might have led LE on a goose chase for a week in Waveny which would also have fit in with Fd plans as he had work to do with MT at 80 MS?

Perhaps he left the purse at 69/71 Welles because Jfd didn't always use the purse and also because he didn't know the she was heading into the City where it would have been more likely IMO that she took the purse vs her usual routine of wallet and phone when in CT?

He probably knew what she usually did with regard to her use of the purse. I'm sure LA knew too how JFd used her purse so when LA saw the purse there she was shocked as she knew JFD would have definitely taken it with her on the trip into City.

MOO

This is why I wish we had had WS when my friend was murdered...without people posting and giving their thoughts and theories...it is critical to developing clues and possibly can help aid in some way.

The more I think about the purse the more I think about what FD told his friend at the BBQ at the lake on 5/31 when he attended with MT a week after JD is reported missing. The friend HH (I think) said it was inappropriate for FD to be seen there with MT and that they should leave. He then asks FD where JD is and FD doesn't really answer at all (something very common with FD and MT) and instead goes into this long explanation about how JD is racking up these medical bills.

Perhaps this was what FD intended all along. The GG theory. I think he was hoping he could declare her this pill popping incompetent mentally unbalanced woman incapable of caring for the kids or caring for herself. Maybe that was his goal all along. Make it look like she staged her own appearance. His DNA was found on the mudroom lock/doorplate. He unlocked it from the inside. Left the purse on the kitchen floor. Didn't think about disturbing the tea and granola bar that was unopened because why bother. Then he takes the Suburban to Waveny (isn't that fairly near a train station? Couldn't one easily walk or jog there?) and dumps it. And the narrative from day one is that JD is unstable and couldn't handle the proceedings blah blah blah and took off? On her own? Because she had "done" that to him before by leaving him in the middle of the night with the kids? (we all know why she left and it wasn't the way he'd like to portray that incident at all) So that's why he wasn't concerned or cared about her whereabouts? Because he was going claim she set up the scene that way?
He really did believe he'd cleaned the garage super well.

The problem with blood spatter in crime scenes is that it can show up a lot of places and not be visible at all to the human eye unless you are really looking. And he didn't have a lot of time. 2 hours ish. The Range Rover blood would have been hard to see as I believe it is dark green. No clue about the garage door. Same for the Suburban as it is black. I think he thought he had engineered a great plan. Norm didn't come into the picture until June. It appears that this was FD's idea as he knew of JD's writings etc...

Maybe he thought because JD was an adult that missing person wouldn't be taken as seriously and as immediately as it was. In many missing adult cases it is not. SO not knowing of the NY doctor appointments is key here. Plus, The nanny is also a hero y'all because she insisted along with JDs friend that Fotis is likely responsible and JD is afraid and FD has a gun. She really pushed that with the police. She could have been really laid back about it. She was not. She pushed along with the other friend of JD, LW.

 

[CTGrammy]

As per information gleamed from a variety of sources and my own notes: GF first filed a complaint in CT court v. FD on behalf of HF estate in January 2018 for $500,000. The complaint was later revised to $2.3 million. In February of 2019, GF also filed on behalf of HF estate against Fore Group, Inc.
It is important to note that Hilliard Farber passed away January 8, 2017 at the age of 83 and it says he died peacefully at home. Later on that year, JD learns of MT and files for divorce from FD in June of 2017 and also requests a GAL be appointed for the custody issues. In July 2017, JD also files for an Emergency order of Protection claiming to be in fear of her husband.
In March 2018, Judge Donna Heller ruled that FD had lied to the court and put his children in danger (this is where he basically has no visitation for nearly a year).

Yet, Fd did not murder JD in 2017 or 2018.

What was the difference?

As AW3 explains, in 2019 is when Fd's financial house of cards Fully Collapsed.

The 2.3 million owed to the Estate of HF was Nothing compared to the Millions owed to Financial Institutions as noted in AW3.

Fd is a confidant a double s and he had no issue with fighting Dr.GF and the HF Estate in civil court, because he felt he could lie is way out.

However, This issue in 2019 is that he owed Millions of Dollars to Financial Institutions that he could not go up against in Court and have any chance of winning.

Perhaps we should contact all the Banks and see how they respond to the following statement?

Sure Fd, the Bank Loan we gave you was just a gift and don't worry your pretty little head about paying it back.

IMO.

 

[CTGrammy]

Duplicate Post.

 

[citygirl]

Exactly. No statements about the contents of her purse.
No statements about her purse having blood stains.
We just don't know.
LE does and it warms my heart.
MOO.

 

[andalso]

This explanation is consistent with what we know so far, except why were her purse, the cup of tea and an unfinished granola bar in the kitchen? She could have left the food on the counter before she took the kids to school, but what about her purse? Did she go inside, taking the purse with her, hear something, open the door to investigate, and was ambushed as soon as she did so?

The only problem with that theory is that, given the danger she knew he posed to her, would she have gone into the garage if she heard a noise, or would she instead have immediately picked up the phone and called the police? Also, if he wanted Dulos wanted anyone to believe his ludicrous Gone Girl scenario, why did he leave her purse in the kitchen? Didn't he know the presence of the purse was going to set off all kinds of alarms?

Based on the clear evidence, the assault clearly took place in the garage. How does the location of her purse in the kitchen fit into this narrative? That question has been bugging me. It doesn't change the fact that Dulos is guilty, of course, but it does tell us something about how the attack went down. I just don't know what yet.

In my mind, when I make tea it is always too hot to drink when I first make it so driving the kids to school would be a good cool down time. I also would not be surprised if she left her purse when driving them to school. It sounds to me like she had her items gathered where she could just pop home and grab the tea, granola bar and purse and head out. Also, I believe she intended to switch cars thus not having those items in the car meant less a chance of forgetting them in the wrong car. At least this is what my mindset would be.

 

[SkylarSid]

That is exactly what they look like. I think they are the funniest things ! I don't know how effective they are but they are a lot of fun to watch. MT doesn't strike me as having the silly side necessary to take a selfie with one though.

She does when she is building her own alibi though. In fact, she will even tell the police that she did. JMO

 

[citygirl]

I completely agree. Why remove her clothing? There is a reason and IMO it relates to how he disposed of Jennifer's body. This particular evidence is why I have thought that Dulos did in fact dismember her in some fashion. That whole "I wasn't cleaning Jennifer" statement by MT would also seem to indicate Dulos did something to Jennifer's body at the Mountain Springs residence.

I keep thinking her body was not intact when Dulos left that residence that day, which is why I have thought that perhaps it did end up at MIRA. I know of 2 cases in one town in less than a year where this was the method of disposal used and in neither case has the body been found. Both defendants have been charged with murder; no body necessary given the other evidence in those (and this) case.

Oh have I held out hope for MIRA.
Especially for those men that combed through that mess for 3 weeks.
Remember all those cops that held a presser saying it was not in vain?
MOO.

 

[Mimi in London]

This explanation is consistent with what we know so far, except why were her purse, the cup of tea and an unfinished granola bar in the kitchen? She could have left the food on the counter before she took the kids to school, but what about her purse? Did she go inside, taking the purse with her, hear something, open the door to investigate, and was ambushed as soon as she did so?

The only problem with that theory is that, given the danger she knew he posed to her, would she have gone into the garage if she heard a noise, or would she instead have immediately picked up the phone and called the police? Also, if he wanted Dulos wanted anyone to believe his ludicrous Gone Girl scenario, why did he leave her purse in the kitchen? Didn't he know the presence of the purse was going to set off all kinds of alarms?

Based on the clear evidence, the assault clearly took place in the garage. How does the location of her purse in the kitchen fit into this narrative? That question has been bugging me. It doesn't change the fact that Dulos is guilty, of course, but it does tell us something about how the attack went down. I just don't know what yet.

He took it into the house after he bludgeoned her, because she doesn’t take it with her when she goes jogging. And he wanted it to look as though she either DID go jogging or (Gone Girl proper, here) she at least tried to make it look like as though she went jogging....

 

[Jmoose]

maybe a well for irrigation but this chart looks like 5 different water companies provide water to Farmington Homes.
https://www.ct.gov/pura/lib/pura/water/waterutilitiesbytown.pdf

Nice work! I guess I had it wrong

 

[citygirl]

Personally, I have a purse and a wallet. On quick trips or going into restaurants and such, I just take my wallet. She could have done the same when she dropped the kids at school with the intention of grabbing her entire purse to go to New York.

School was just minutes away. She didn't need her wallet and hardly needed her drivers license. Back in the day the mothers I knew could well have been in their PJ's.
MOO