Deceased/Not Found CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #37

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  • #881
I don’t think sleuthing KM relatives is allowed here so will just mention that there may be a sibling of his who lives in Tolland ; the only airport in the vicinity is in Boston and that’s a good hour more from where he was apprehended. A closer airport would have been in Hartford, where he already was located or nearby to, when he fled. It’s just baffling.
There is actually a private airport in Ellington 7 miles away from Tolland according to Google......
 
  • #882
Is it possible MT met him there in the other vechicle, but he arrived first on bicycle? They BOTH did the attack, or FD did the attack and she went into the house?

IF both MT & FD were there, then the zip ties to tie her up and abduct her makes more sense...

Or, KM met FD at the house, and KM later went on his way with JFd to one of his graves?
What proof have we seen so far that MT and KM even met early on 5/24 at 4JC?
Just their word? Remember MT says she really didn't talk to the Greek guy when he called.
Where's the proof that they BOTH weren't in
NC?
 
  • #883
Given the timing, I think Fotis may have left Jennifer somewhere near the Pound Ridge Home. It would be 20 mins to Pound Ridge from Latham Rd. That's about 11;30am. It's an hour and a half to Farmington, so there are roughly 30 to 40 missing minutes. imo.

I thought the Pound Ridge house had already been sold, by the time Jennifer was murdered, so access to anything near the house would have been limited. Does anyone recall when the sale was completed?
 
  • #884
That's the exact image I was referring to!

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Estranged husband of missing Connecticut mother 'dumped items splattered with her blood | Daily Mail Online
 
  • #885
Just to make sure I’m understanding this.

After FD returned to the location where he parked his coworker’s pickup, and dumped Jennifer’s vehicle, it looks like he spent close to 40 minutes there (according to Jennifer’s phone activity)?
I think the only certain thing is that her phone spent 40 minutes there live. If it was turned off, a living human had to be there. If it just ran out of battery, no so.

Circumstantially, Fotis seems like a likely human to have turned the the device off, if that’s what occurred, given the next visual on the Tacoma.

(Assuming Fotis is driving or in the Tacoma. That is not certain, either.)
 
  • #886
I am local, and oh to wife swap for ONE DAY...he has no idea what he would be in for - if he was my husband, but we know they always pray on weak ones...
RSBM>I am sure you didn't mean anything bad but please do not say that JD or other victims/survivors are weak. We are NOT. We are loving, trusting people. Not weak. Unless someone had been involved with a Malignant Narc/Sociopath/Psychopath, it is very hard to imagine what the victims are up against. You only find out when it is too late. If you think you are any match for these people and can actually win, well, that doesn't happen. I have heard the hubris of a neighbor claiming that nothing like what happened to me would ever happen to her. There but for the grace of God...
 
  • #887
Given the timing, I think Fotis may have left Jennifer somewhere near the Pound Ridge Home. It would be 20 mins to Pound Ridge from Latham Rd. That's about 11;30am. It's an hour and a half to Farmington, so there are roughly 30 to 40 missing minutes. imo.

I thought the Pound Ridge house had already been sold, by the time Jennifer was murdered, so access to anything near the house would have been limited. Does anyone recall when the sale was completed?
What proof have we seen so far that MT and KM even met early on 5/24 at 4JC?
Just their word? Remember MT says she really didn't talk to the Greek guy when he called.
Where's the proof that they BOTH weren't in
NC?

You’re right; only their words on it...and especially when MT was questioned, she was evasive about this particular thing. Well, actually, I guess she lied about everything! I wish there was video of the conversations LE had with her-her words were evasive, but her manner would have told the story.
 
  • #888
Oh, @MassGuy , I'm telling TB! :p
Another nugget in the search warrants in the Jennifer Dulos case that was not in the arrest warrants--a utility knife with possible blood on it was found in the garbage bags dumped in Hartford. Was this weapon used to kill Jennifer? @News12CT

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I recently watched a real crime tv show that explained how cleaned up shoe prints can still be tracked by forensic teams. The prints do not
have to even be visible to naked eye to be detected by chemicals. I'm sure that's what happened here, especially on concrete.

The prints were visible to the first detective on the scene. I dont know if they used anything to make it visible. It could have been JFd own prints.
 
  • #891
RSBM>I am sure you didn't mean anything bad but please do not say that JD or other victims/survivors are weak. We are NOT. We are loving, trusting people. Not weak. Unless someone had been involved with a Malignant Narc/Sociopath/Psychopath, it is very hard to imagine what the victims are up against. You only find out when it is too late. If you think you are any match for these people and can actually win, well, that doesn't happen. I have heard the hubris of a neighbor claiming that nothing like what happened to me would ever happen to her. There but for the grace of God...

Absolutely- Well said. Not ever having known her personally, I think Jennifer was masterful at keeping her children’s lives as normal as possible, keeping them safe and keeping herself alive as long as she was.

She survived what few others could have. And she came so close to escaping.
 
  • #892
40 minutes at Waveny.... body already transferred to the Fore Suburban... FD cleaning JD's Suburban? He must have done a pretty good job, to the naked eye. 2 hours to clean up a crime scene, 40 minutes to clean up the transport?

I did not catch a reference to JD's home security, but I have to believe she had one. Big expensive home, active fear of estranged husband. Perhaps FD knew how to override it? Better still, home cameras captured everything, and the Prosecution is saving that smoking bombshell for the last day of the trial.

Who is up for making me a graphic showing known and suspected vehicle and driver gymnastics, beginning May 23rd?

We know FD was driving the Tacoma for the DufOdyssey, but could MT have been driving it away from Waveny? Frankly I peg her for driving JD's Suburban TO Waveny, because
at a glance, she might pass for the owner.

How long would it take for FD to
reclaim his stashed bicycle and pedal back to Waveny? Part of 40 minutes. Full daylight, more discretion required.

Did KM and MT travel together to New Canaan (in the Fore Suburban)? Did FD make a desperate burner-phone call from 69W, for
back up clean up help when Plan A went sideways?

If we assume that the Tacoma bed held the bike and the clean up debris, was FD using his time at 80MS to detail the Tacoma (not the carwash special that came later but a preliminary wipe out)? Was he repackaging trash? Say 3 big bags into 30 small ones?

I hope the Subway receipt brings them all down. Smoking 6-inch. That and MT hanging on to her Chuck Taylor's.

JMO
 
  • #893
True! However, I don't recall this tidbit in the warrants: "Sources said state police impounded the vehicle from a car dealership that was fixing the accident damage and found a WeatherTech floor liner with blood-like stains on it."
Interesting, because we know Fotis Dulos rarely seems to fix accident damage on his vehicles. He leave a trail of scraped-up, formerly high-end, now ugly [🤬🤬🤬] vehicles all over the Greater Hartford area. Why suddenly fixing this one?


Gotta love the consistency of Pattisville and their friend Dave Altimari of the HC in their relentless pursuit of reasonable doubt!

Today the Search Warrant Dump was over 450 pages and of the handful of bullet points presented in the below article we see YET AGAIN the reference to the discredited and now SEALED report from Family Court which was TOSSED by Judge Heller by Dr. Herman.

Can't you just hear the text now possibly sent by Atty. P. or a minion to DA,

Atty. P.: "Hey Dave, need a favour can you add a paragraph about the Herman report in your article today about the Search Warrants".

DA: "Sure Norm, no biggie, anything for my buddy! You are buying a round or two the next time we get together"!

Unbelievable IMO.

Search warrants reveal a horrific crime scene at the home of Jennifer Farber Dulos

Quotes from article:

The warrants released Wednesday contained information already made public in the three arrest warrant affidavits issued for Dulos and his then-girlfriend Michelle Troconis since their first arrest on June 1 in connection with Farber Dulos’ disappearance but also there were new details of the investigation including:

  • The nanny for the couple’s five children told police that Fotis Dulos tried to hit his estranged wife with his vehicle and also chased her through their home in the summer of 2017. Lauren Almeida told police she witnessed Dulos chase his wife through the house. "She finally came running into the bedroom and slammed the door closed. She braced herself against the door as her husband kept pounding trying to open it. He seemed to calm down when he realized Almeida and one of his children were also in the room,” the documents said. In June 2017, Almeida told police she found Farber Dulos crying in the driveway of her home. “Jennifer said that her husband tried to hit her with his vehicle and she needed to jump out of the way.”
  • On May 17, Troconis got into an accident driving a Chevy Suburban owned by Fore Group Inc., Dulos’ construction company, that damaged the left front of the car. Police obtained a surveillance video from a home on Thurton Drive that showed a Chevy Suburban with similar damage parked on the street. The vehicle was parked about 600 feet from a wooded area that leads to the back of Farber Dulos’ home. Sources said state police impounded the vehicle from a car dealership that was fixing the accident damage and found a WeatherTech floor liner with blood-like stains on it.
  • Surveillance footage in Hartford’s North End shows two people, believed by investigators to be Dulos and Troconis, dumping garbage bags into trash cans. At one site, investigators wrote in the warrants, the suspects are seen “disposing of a rug.” Sources told the Courant that state police were searching for a mat or piece of carpet that was propped up against Milagro’s restaurant on Albany Avenue, not far from the area where investigators found bloody evidence tied to Farber Dulos that was tossed in garbage cans. Surveillance footage shows a man walking near a black Ford Raptor, grabbing a dark piece of mat or carpet and then leaning it against the restaurant.
  • Investigators received a call not long after the arrests of Dulos and Troconis in June from a technology consultant for Dulos who told investigators that on May 30, Troconis called to ask him for help with her phone and computer, and that he backed up information on both to an external hard drive. He told investigators that he backed up photographs from Troconis’ phone to the hard drive, which she said she was turning over to her attorney. The consultant did not know what was in the photographs. The consultant mentioned to Troconis it must be tough “on Fotis with Jennifer missing,” and he told investigators that she gave him a “weird look” in response. The consultant told investigators that Dulos had an online file backup service called Backblaze that he still had access to at the time of his arrest. Investigators asked the company to preserve any records.
  • State police requested all records from the court-appointed monitor that was present whenever Dulos had a visitation with his five children. Police were especially interested in the notes from a May 22 visit where Dulos came back to the Welles Lane home and ate dinner with the children on the back patio. The monitor told state police that Dulos never went into the house that day and said they never left Dulos unsupervised with his children. State police have said they found Dulos’ DNA on the inside knob of the mudroom door.
  • Police also obtained a copy of a secret custodial evaluation report that had just been completed by New York psychiatrist Dr. Stephen P. Herman. State police wanted to try and understand Farber Dulos’ state of mind. “The custodial evaluation will assist us by providing valuable insight into more personal details of Jennifer that her family and friends do not know. Specifically, the report may indicate if Jennifer was likely or capable of hurting herself or it may strongly dispute that idea thus indicating the blood found inside Jennifer’s garage may have been due to Jennifer having been assaulted and taken against her will,” the search warrant said.
  • Farber Dulos’ cell records show the last person she talked with was Almeida shortly before 8 a.m. Data showed that her cellphone was in the vicinity of Waveny Park for nearly 40 minutes on the morning she disappeared in the area where her Chevy Suburban was found and other videos had showed a red Toyota truck parked earlier. Police believe Dulos drove that red truck, which belonged to an employee, from Farmington to New Canaan on the morning of May 24. Three minutes after Farber Dulos’ phone disconnected from the network, the red truck is spotted driving north on the Merritt Parkway headed back to Farmington.

Oh my! Here is the Atty. P. response to the Search Warrants. Wonder if he had read the SWs prior to issuing the below statement:

“A preliminary review of the warrant leaves us relieved and saddened. We’re relieved that there is nothing we didn’t expect or have heard about; saddened because it’s obvious the state police really have no idea what became of Jennifer," said Dulos’ attorney, Norm Pattis. “This remains an open case in our view.”

Pattis denied the accusations by Almeida that she had witnessed possible domestic violence incidents. [BBM]

Not content to simply deny the claims of LA, Atty. P. had to go just one extra step to denigrate and diminish her as follows:

“Mr. Dulos denies the fanciful claims of the nanny. He never harmed nor sought to harm Jennifer,” Pattis said.

Really????????


MOO
 
  • #894
This is a good summary and I think accurately states things for the most part. Man, blood was every freaking where. Blood in the master bedroom? What was he doing up there? Looks like we found the 40 minutes of missing time. 40 MINUTES at Waveny?

The warrant does not say there was blood on the phone and tablet. Its in a list of things and places, each specifically says they have blood except for the phone and tablet.
I think it is important that they dont say it, but maybe they just omitted by accident.
 
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  • #895
And we have yet to hear what LE gleaned from the journal they found...
Haha!

A good amount of forensic work here for you to take a look at too! Blood trail extended into the house it seems and went up to the JFd MBR.

Fd apparently made it into JFd MBR based on the evidence. What was he looking for? Search warrant makes reference to financial documents and papers in JFd house. Passwords perhaps? Was he looking for will or financial documents or perhaps her latest book draft about her life whilst married? Did he get the health documents for $15,000 from Welles or someplace else.

Copious amounts of blood and even a bloody footprint in the garage.

Oddly enough I could find no reference to the security system at Welles. Why? Was it off or does it offer video of precisely what happened at Welles and who exactly was there? Could the system have triggered as every zone that Fd went through to get to the MBR issued an alert? Or, was the system turned off or disabled?

Possible accomplice/s in NC using Fd Suburban which was seen on dead end street behind JFd Welles house.

Stupid criminals indeed IMO!

MOO
 
  • #896
RSBM>I am sure you didn't mean anything bad but please do not say that JD or other victims/survivors are weak. We are NOT. We are loving, trusting people. Not weak. Unless someone had been involved with a Malignant Narc/Sociopath/Psychopath, it is very hard to imagine what the victims are up against. You only find out when it is too late. If you think you are any match for these people and can actually win, well, that doesn't happen. I have heard the hubris of a neighbor claiming that nothing like what happened to me would ever happen to her. There but for the grace of God...

I imagine that she did not mean it quite like it sounded. I’ve had some thoughts like this too, although it didn’t extend to abused spouses being weak-I’ve said that he’s lucky he wasn’t married to me, but the truth is, I am soo lucky I wasn’t married to him. And I’m sure you’re right that you don’t know until it’s way too late, otherwise, why would you have married him? They know what to do, to get what they want, because they have done it every day for their entire lives.
 
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RSBM>I am sure you didn't mean anything bad but please do not say that JD or other victims/survivors are weak. We are NOT. We are loving, trusting people. Not weak. Unless someone had been involved with a Malignant Narc/Sociopath/Psychopath, it is very hard to imagine what the victims are up against. You only find out when it is too late. If you think you are any match for these people and can actually win, well, that doesn't happen. I have heard the hubris of a neighbor claiming that nothing like what happened to me would ever happen to her. There but for the grace of God...

Of course not, I have a BFF who divorced her ex, who also tried to run her and her children off the road in a vehicle this summer - she thinks she did something to cause this...daily she was called names for 12 year marriage...she is in therapy to reverse his abuse..I also had a brief early marriage with an NPD who was verbally, emotionally and financially abusive, I have been punched in the face holding our infant, trust me I get it...I've also been there..
 
  • #899
What proof have we seen so far that MT and KM even met early on 5/24 at 4JC?
Just their word? Remember MT says she really didn't talk to the Greek guy when he called.
Where's the proof that they BOTH weren't in
NC?
Yes, we still have a lot of gaps. The neighbor's camera, the one that recorded FD checking his mail that evening, should have shown an early morning visitor also. I don't know though, many times I turn off my own cameras during the day just so I don't hear the notifications as I run in and out. JMO.
 
  • #900
Can't post much due to time constraints BUT Dulos' Suburban was caught on Jennifer's neighbor's video of May 17! He was in that place, in that time for one reason and one reason only. Wonder is MT was with him? Premeditation for sure, but also a potential indicator of route. His goose is cooked.
 
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