Deceased/Not Found CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #38

[BUF]

That was YANNIS or IOANNIS not ANDREAS

Thank you for correcting me. It was Ioannis.

Before being jailed in connection with the disappearance of Jennifer Farber Dulos, her estranged husband, Fotis Dulos, faced a downward spiral in his business and marriage

Dulos has attracted some investors for the 80 Mountain Spring development. They included a $600,000 line of credit from Henry Masiello of Coventry, R.I., and a $500,000 mortgage from Ioannis Toutziaridis of Athens, Greece, land records show.

 

[Boxer]

I was struck by that, too! Said to myself Wasn't she charged with conspiracy to commit murder?

IDK. Its hard to say or know exactly what Atty. P. knew at the time of that comment. We know he didn't even get the AW of Fd immediately so how would he have had time to get and go through one for MT and KM? Perhaps he tasked Pattisville minions with these tasks of initially reading the other AWs? IDK.

I'm inclined to believe that the reference to 'murder' meant just that and NOT conspiracy to murder. Atty. P. has gone off in court on conspiracy to murder and I don't think would have made such a basic error but given the source I guess I have to say virtually anything is possible here.

I do wonder though if MT is now front and centre in the path of Pattisville and they will be working hard to make sure that she is charged with 'murder' and NOT 'conspiracy to murder'?

We now have a lot of people looking at potentially spending the rest of their lives in prison and so the fighting will no doubt become fierce as they turn on each other.

MOO[/QUOTE]

If MT charge is upped to murder, MOO that murder would have occurred at 80 MS, or nearby burial location in the Farmington area and JF(d) would have been be near death.

I believe MT selfied and alibied herself for the morning. I doubt she was supposed to be so involved.

I wonder why no blood evidence is listed as recovered from 80 MS.
Or maybe I missed it.

 

[Jmoose]

NP is counting on evidence suppression.

Yes, I think you’re right

 

[citygirl]

How about using his 'sister' and 'niece' to violate a 'gag order'?

Dealing with Fd and Pattisville is like dealing with Jello IMO as it all sadly seems to be about skirting the edges of the law and then playing a game of 'catch me if you can'.

Judge Blawie tried to be as specific as he could in his Orders and yet again its a case of 'please don't eat the daisy's' and because the "Greek Family" wasn't specifically included in the 'gag order' they can be used to get around Court Orders. This is sadly no different than the 'Greek Family' seeking to impose themselves with the 5 Dulos children when there was a strict no contact order in place for Fd.

How many times will this have to happen before the State or Judge Blawie seeks to restrain the entire 'Greek Family' from interference and working around the Order of the Court on behalf of their uncle/brother?

The physical evidence in this case IMO based on 3 AWs is compelling.

Atty. P. on behalf of his client is doing everything humanly possible to avoid discussion of the information presented by the State which I believe is only the beginning of what will eventually be presented by the case.

Atty. P. would like to try the victim in the case in the public arena and this has been a key component of his ill conceived plan from the beginning of this case.

I'm going back to working on the MT timeline and blasting off an email to Judge Blawie to request that he investigate precisely what is going on with regard to public communication in Pattisville.

MOO

I know you are upset about this but it doesn't bother me.
All NP's words will come back to haunt him.
And FD will be the beneficiary.
It's all good, IMO.

 

[kimch33kim]

Thank you for correcting me. It was Ioannis.

Before being jailed in connection with the disappearance of Jennifer Farber Dulos, her estranged husband, Fotis Dulos, faced a downward spiral in his business and marriage

Dulos has attracted some investors for the 80 Mountain Spring development. They included a $600,000 line of credit from Henry Masiello of Coventry, R.I., and a $500,000 mortgage from Ioannis Toutziaridis of Athens, Greece, land records show.

No worries. p.s. I used caps because in the deposition Weinstein was like Y-A-N-N-I-S T-O-U-T-whatever it is HAHA!!! Will never forget that.

 

[afitzy]

IDK. Its hard to say or know exactly what Atty. P. knew at the time of that comment. We know he didn't even get the AW of Fd immediately so how would he have had time to get and go through one for MT and KM? Perhaps he tasked Pattisville minions with these tasks of initially reading the other AWs? IDK.

I'm inclined to believe that the reference to 'murder' meant just that and NOT conspiracy to murder. Atty. P. has gone off in court on conspiracy to murder and I don't think would have made such a basic error but given the source I guess I have to say virtually anything is possible here.

I do wonder though if MT is now front and centre in the path of Pattisville and they will be working hard to make sure that she is charged with 'murder' and NOT 'conspiracy to murder'?

We now have a lot of people looking at potentially spending the rest of their lives in prison and so the fighting will no doubt become fierce as they turn on each other.

MOO

If MT charge is upped to murder, MOO that murdet aould have occurred at 80 MS, or nearby burial location in the Farmington area and JF(d) would havr been be near death.

I believe she selfied and alibied herself for the morning. I doubt she was supposed to be so involved.

I wonder why no blood evidence is listed as recovered from 80 MS.
Or maybe I missed it.[/QUOTE]
Nope, I think there is a lot that is not in this latest dump and in latest AW3/AW1.

Investigation is ongoing.

MOO

 

[sds71]

The AW says she told them which shop it was and what she was wearing so they can identify her on surveillance. Unless there was someone posing as her with the same build and same face it would be hard to fake

I’d know that chin anywhere

 

[SkylarSid]

It's all an Act...a Game. The life of Jennifer does not matter. NP can't wait for this to go to trial and I'm sure that he hopes, as he brushes his long locks in the mirror 100 times every night, that this case will make it on TV. If you close your eyes Norm and really think and visualize what your client did to his wife in that garage...just picture the horror, the blood...YOU are going to help this animal escape his consequences?! You're Gross.

I can 't fathom it either how he can represent such cold blooded killers. He sure does though. If you thought defending one of the Petit killers (wife strangled and 2 teenagers burned alive) was the lowest a trail lawyer could go, think again. NP can put himself further down than any rouge lawyer ever. No scruples at all. I can only give pause, because I will never be able to comprehend how any lawyer with even a minuscule bit of integrity can go so low. JMO.

 

[citygirl]

How about using his 'sister' and 'niece' to violate a 'gag order'?

Dealing with Fd and Pattisville is like dealing with Jello IMO as it all sadly seems to be about skirting the edges of the law and then playing a game of 'catch me if you can'.

Judge Blawie tried to be as specific as he could in his Orders and yet again its a case of 'please don't eat the daisy's' and because the "Greek Family" wasn't specifically included in the 'gag order' they can be used to get around Court Orders. This is sadly no different than the 'Greek Family' seeking to impose themselves with the 5 Dulos children when there was a strict no contact order in place for Fd.

How many times will this have to happen before the State or Judge Blawie seeks to restrain the entire 'Greek Family' from interference and working around the Order of the Court on behalf of their uncle/brother?

The physical evidence in this case IMO based on 3 AWs is compelling.

Atty. P. on behalf of his client is doing everything humanly possible to avoid discussion of the information presented by the State which I believe is only the beginning of what will eventually be presented by the case.

Atty. P. would like to try the victim in the case in the public arena and this has been a key component of his ill conceived plan from the beginning of this case.

I'm going back to working on the MT timeline and blasting off an email to Judge Blawie to request that he investigate precisely what is going on with regard to public communication in Pattisville.

MOO

Let his sister and niece keep talking.
Would anyone in their right mind believe in them?
They have not shown an iota of empathy toward Jennifer.
Nor, do I think they have any real interest in bonding with the children.
It's all talk. Empty talk. And Dr. Gloria Farber knows it.
MOO.

 

[Megnut]

If MT was driving the Fore Suburban the morning of 5/24, please tell me the doctored license plates are fully visible on film when she dropped her daughter off at school. And in the parking lot at Shop-n-Alibi.

How could a lawyer, a "builder" and an e-business queen think they could move around the state and not be caught on cameras? In the end, their cellphones will bury them, all three of them. Menage a trois de morons.

JMO

 

[Outforjustice]

So who was driving the SUV on Thurton on May 24 ... MT or KM?

MT .
KM had to go to his office/work .

IF FD and MT altered license plates then who’s to say they didn’t take the Thule off of the Suburban for a spy mission.

MT was probably Driving around on Thurton and other adjacent roads ready to alert FD in case nanny or Housekeeper pulled up.

Not sure why LE is saying they are looking to see if Thule Rack was on the Suburban when it was spotted on Thurton in surveillance videos ?

Not hard to take them off .

 

[SkylarSid]

If MT charge is upped to murder, MOO that murdet aould have occurred at 80 MS, or nearby burial location in the Farmington area and JF(d) would havr been be near death.

I believe she selfied and alibied herself for the morning. I doubt she was supposed to be so involved.

I wonder why no blood evidence is listed as recovered from 80 MS.
Or maybe I missed it.

Nope, I think there is a lot that is not in this latest dump and in latest AW3/AW1.

Investigation is ongoing.

MOO[/QUOTE]
It was stated a few times in the search warrant that they were withholding information because it was an ongoing investigation . Tomorrow I will look for exact references, but the warrants were peppered more than once with that statement.

 

[afitzy]

I know you are upset about this but it doesn't bother me.
All NP's words will come back to haunt him.
And FD will be the beneficiary.
It's all good, IMO.

Thanks!

I know, but to see ongoing violations of 'gag order' and out and out mistruths being put into the public domain by officers of the court at a certain point simply becomes too much.

Today with the denial of DV comments coming from the female relatives of Fd via the known Atty. P. stooge DA it was all simply too much.

IMO the cowardice of the "Greek Relatives" is clear and obvious as if they had something to say then by all means come to America and go on the record. But these people didn't do this even though they both were here for over a month recently. I do think that given their willingness to act of behalf of Fd and go to the press in contravention of the 'gag order' that binds their relative AND his attorney, I do think Atty Colangelo needs to rope them into the 'gag order' too.

I am not sure the 'gag order' can be used to bind on foreign nationals but I'm also not sure of the citizenship of any of these people in the "Greek Family" either, so perhaps they have Green Cards or are Citizens. Why not simply have CSP check their passports or place alerts for their next trips to the US by US Customs?

People that do not play by the rules IMO should be punished and IMO Fd and Atty. P. should be punished for the remarks made by the "Greek Family" to DA of the HC and I do think DA AND the HC should be punished for publishing those remarks. FD was reprimanded by Judge Blawie for having his family members circumvent the 'no contact' order. Why is the 'gag order' any different? IMO the "Greek Family" attacked LA via their comments in HC via DA.

I agree that the circumstantial evidence seen so far is compelling and that more such evidence is on its way and will be presented in court.

IMO the focus should be firmly on the evidence and NOT on victim bashing and public attacks by distant family members of a witness that in this case had the courage to come forward and go on the record as LA has done.

MOO

 

[Ruminations]

I feel like the prosecution's case is weak at proving Jennifer is dead, I dont think a large blood loss and having to use terms like "without medical treatment she would be dead"

I hope you posted this in good faith. If so, in what way would this be difficult? I think her death is indisputable.

She obviously was gravely injured in her garage. Under what scenario could she have left alive and stayed alive? Where could she have gone?

And how does it tie in that Dulos didn’t look for her, but dumped bloody clothes, zip ties, mops, etc. that evening? How did they get into his possession if she were alive, without it coming to pass that he would have more information about her whereabouts?

 

[sds71]

MT claims the alibi is HH wife to explain her going to old farms road around 2pm on 5/24/19. Interesting how SR's fiancee did not show up in the whole search warrant. She was mentioned in one of Weinstein's deposition questions along with HH.

They knew where she was
You can’t miss em!

 

[kimch33kim]

They knew where she was
You can’t miss em!

MT first tried to say she dropped off the purse in the morning. So was that to SR fiancee (BJ) and that person did not corroborate statements ? Then she went to say the purse was dropped off in the afternoon around 2 pm to HH wife? Strange

 

[Jmoose]

I hope you posted this in good faith. If so, in what way would this be difficult? I think her death is indisputable.

She obviously was gravely injured in her garage. Under what scenario could she have left alive and stayed alive? Where could she have gone?

And how does it tie in that Dulos didn’t look for her, but dumped bloody clothes, zip ties, mops, etc. that evening? How did they get into his possession if she were alive, without it coming to pass that he would have more information about her whereabouts?

And what would Fd have been doing in her house in the first place, when he was never allowed to be there-at the exact same time that she was bleeding badly, regardless of whether or not the blood loss was enough to kill her? No reasonable person would think that she walked away from what happened to her in that garage, and that a man who was never allowed to enter her home would have done her the favor of disposing of the clean up of such an injury, so she could get away without anyone knowing where she took herself. What is wrong with people?

 

[Southernsnooper]

Perhaps taping the bags themselves. IMO those bags are going to be traced either to Dulos or Jennifer. Plastic garbage bags were seized at both homes and are specifically referred to in the SW returns.

I believe he used tape during the license plate alteration. Moo

 

[Boxer]

I was struck by that, too! Said to myself Wasn't she charged with conspiracy to commit murder?

IDK. Its hard to say or know exactly what Atty. P. knew at the time of that comment. We know he didn't even get the AW of Fd immediately so how would he have had time to get and go through one for MT and KM? Perhaps he tasked Pattisville minions with these tasks of initially reading the other AWs? IDK.

I'm inclined to believe that the reference to 'murder' meant just that and NOT conspiracy to murder. Atty. P. has gone off in court on conspiracy to murder and I don't think would have made such a basic error but given the source I guess I have to say virtually anything is possible here.

I do wonder though if MT is now front and centre in the path of Pattisville and they will be working hard to make sure that she is charged with 'murder' and NOT 'conspiracy to murder'?

We now have a lot of people looking at potentially spending the rest of their lives in prison and so the fighting will no doubt become fierce as they turn on each other.

MOO[/QUOTE]

If MT charge is upped to murder, MOO that murdet aould have occurred at 80 MS, or nearby burial location in the Farmington area and JF(d) would havr been be near death.

I believe she selfied and alibied herself for the morning. I doubt she was supposed to be so involved.

I wonder why no blood evidence is listed as recovered from 80 MS.
Or maybe I missed it.

If MT charge is upped to murder, MOO that murdet aould have occurred at 80 MS, or nearby burial location in the Farmington area and JF(d) would havr been be near death.

I believe she selfied and alibied herself for the morning. I doubt she was supposed to be so involved.

I wonder why no blood evidence is listed as recovered from 80 MS.
Or maybe I missed it.

Nope, I think there is a lot that is not in this latest dump and in latest AW3/AW1.

Investigation is ongoing.

MOO[/QUOTE]


I think so too. And I hope so too.

 

[enelram]

@afitzy said:
I wonder why no blood evidence is listed as recovered from 80 MS.
Or maybe I missed it.[/QUOTE]
Nope, I think there is a lot that is not in this latest dump and in latest AW3/AW1.
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I'm guessing all work on the body and bags took
place outdoors. Remember that's a large property and unless someone pulled up the driveway they probably couldn't see much and also remember mT said one of the cars was parked funny. So I think it was an outdoor activity, then run the hose to wash away residue.