Deceased/Not Found CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #38

[BellaVita]

Dr.GF and HF provided a Cash Guarantee on the Bank Mortgage with Mellon, so when Fd stopped paying the mortgage in 2018, Mellon did not foreclose because they just looked to Dr.GF and HF's Estate for the payments.
So, instead of making those payments, Dr.GF just bought the entire mortgage from Mellon.
This action by Dr.GF Solidified my Tremendous Amount of Respect for Her.
Absolutely the Best Chess Player I Know.
Fd had No Clue that Dr.GF had Bought the mortgage until he was Served Court Documents.
Hahahahahahahaha.
IMO.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yes, yes and yes.

 

[oceancalling]

thought I’d throw in a couple of things off the top of my head. I had read incident report(s) -and posted them here-when in a previous discussion about length of time Gramma K was in hospital.

IIRC, the accident happened the day before she died.
The nanny did not have a drivers license. She was not charged for this infraction.
Gramma K was on the way to the store and asked Nanny to maneuver car because she was struggling.
Believe JD wS home but perhaps not outside, or she arrived home soon after?
But believe JD called 911
Gramma K initially thought to be recovering and expected to survive.
Nanny spent night in room w Gramma K before she passed.

it’s bothered me why a 77 woman who had sustained a head injury and broken arm, and was falling down losing consciousness was headed to the store with at least one child already strapped in the car, was about to drive to the store.

this story reeks.
Much like FDs “scripted” sounding explanation.
I think that as more history of FDs actions and words are revealed, and he continues to perform and speak, and creates a bigger steaming pile, the more obvious it will become that he is a damaged disgusting waste of life.
but wait, I think we have already reached that conclusion.

justice4jennifer

Could one of the reasons that Jennifer was so afraid of her husband is that she suspected Dulos had killed his own mother, but was afraid to speak up? Did he also manipulate Jennifer and the nanny in such a manner they were unable to tell what they knew? And the fact that LE allowed Dulos to "interpret" the nanny's statement is absolutely outrageous.

For me, the big tell that something is not right about this death is the cremation. Dulos was a stickler for so-called Greek traditions, to the point that he threatened to have nothing to do with his own daughter if the Greek tradition of naming the child after her grandmother was not honored. And yet, he cremates his mother, something that is a big no-no in Greek culture.

He had his mother cremated to prevent further investigation IMO. Perhaps getting away with this murder taught him the importance of 'no body.' He so easily got away with that murder, why not another? MOO

 

[oceancalling]

thought I’d throw in a couple of things off the top of my head. I had read incident report(s) -and posted them here-when in a previous discussion about length of time Gramma K was in hospital.

IIRC, the accident happened the day before she died.
The nanny did not have a drivers license. She was not charged for this infraction.
Gramma K was on the way to the store and asked Nanny to maneuver car because she was struggling.
Believe JD wS home but perhaps not outside, or she arrived home soon after?
But believe JD called 911
Gramma K initially thought to be recovering and expected to survive.
Nanny spent night in room w Gramma K before she passed.

it’s bothered me why a 77 woman who had sustained a head injury and broken arm, and was falling down losing consciousness was headed to the store with at least one child already strapped in the car, was about to drive to the store.

this story reeks.
Much like FDs “scripted” sounding explanation.
I think that as more history of FDs actions and words are revealed, and he continues to perform and speak, and creates a bigger steaming pile, the more obvious it will become that he is a damaged disgusting waste of life.
but wait, I think we have already reached that conclusion.

justice4jennifer

Could one of the reasons that Jennifer was so afraid of her husband is that she suspected Dulos had killed his own mother, but was afraid to speak up? Did he also manipulate Jennifer and the nanny in such a manner they were unable to tell what they knew? And the fact that LE allowed Dulos to "interpret" the nanny's statement is absolutely outrageous.

For me, the big tell that something is not right about this death is the cremation. Dulos was a stickler for so-called Greek traditions, to the point that he threatened to have nothing to do with his own daughter if the Greek tradition of naming the child after her grandmother was not honored. And yet, he cremates his mother, something that is a big no-no in Greek culture.

He had his mother cremated to prevent further investigation IMO. Perhaps getting away with this murder taught him the importance of 'no body.' He so easily got away with that murder, why not another? MOO

 

[oceancalling]

Is there a link for Dr. Herman’s profile. Want to make sure I am reading about the right one. Thanx

Be sure to read the Google Reviews, which have him nailed.

 

[hivee]

If Pattis wanted to submit something about JDs mental health (as if it would help FD), Couldn’t they just bring in an expert witness on DV and it’s effects on a woman’s health? Don’t know if this is allowed or would work.

 

[kshultz06082]

Could one of the reasons that Jennifer was so afraid of her husband is that she suspected Dulos had killed his own mother, but was afraid to speak up? Did he also manipulate Jennifer and the nanny in such a manner they were unable to tell what they knew? And the fact that LE allowed Dulos to "interpret" the nanny's statement is absolutely outrageous.

For me, the big tell that something is not right about this death is the cremation. Dulos was a stickler for so-called Greek traditions, to the point that he threatened to have nothing to do with his own daughter if the Greek tradition of naming the child after her grandmother was not honored. And yet, he cremates his mother, something that is a big no-no in Greek culture.

He had his mother cremated to prevent further investigation IMO. Perhaps getting away with this murder taught him the importance of 'no body.' He so easily got away with that murder, why not another? MOO

Im curious if the statements made by the Greek nanny were recorded either thru voice recording of video. If so, I hope someone has gone back and reviewed them to see if FDs interpretation of her words are actually correct or if he made up her responses. I would hope LE had an unbiased interpretor listen and an accurate transcript made.

 

[SkylarSid]

‘I object’: Norm Pattis says one document could save Fotis Dulos in court
despicable NP just loves loves loves any attention he can get

So he thinks it is going to show Jennifer could have harmed herself. Harmed herself so much that she left most of her blood in the garage, but mind you she went to the pantry to collect the paper towels to clean up after herself. Then she was able to get into her car and drive to Wavenly Park. I guess that is why there is a footprint in the car too. And on her way she manage to call her estranged husband to pick up all her bloody items so the children wouldn't happen upon them. Right. He is merely grasping at any straw that looks like it might hold water. JMO.

 

[MDATCA]

GF has the mortgage. It's hard to evict someone. Still waiting on rulings in the civil case.

What happens if FD gets convicted while she holds the mortgage? Will he still be able to fight being evicted? Can he move a family member in and then she would have to evict them? I doubt there is any kind of lease or contract to have anyone listed as the responsible party. As far as FD is concerned she paid off the bank so it is his free and clear so I am assuming that the grey area is that there is no contract for after the mortgage was paid.

 

[SkylarSid]

Gloria Farber is paying for everything right now - though I don't know about the mortgage itself - if anyone is paying that at all, it's her, but she may have good reason not to be.

But she pays for everything having to do with the kids, including their protection, health insurance, education - everything.

DBM - clarified in a later post.

 

[SkylarSid]

I looked into why Dulos was allowed bail.

Capital murder cases used to be prohibited from having bail, but the death penalty was ended in 2012 in CT. So now murder is felony murder not capital murder and so bail is allowed.

No judge wants to have any procedural error in this case, so the bail was granted.

Right. And most people don't even have the means to post bail. People like KM. JMO.

 

[sds71]

If Pattis wanted to submit something about JDs mental health (as if it would help FD), Couldn’t they just bring in an expert witness on DV and it’s effects on a woman’s health? Don’t know if this is allowed or would work.

the way Pattis was talking and inviting everyone watching to the courthouse
there must be something this particular report he wants everyone to know about-even the reporter called it a "tease"
I'm sure he doesn't care if it makes FD looks bad- he'll just file a motion saying the Judge shouldn't have ruled in his favor and drag it out some more

 

[BellaVita]

For me, the big tell that something is not right about this death is the cremation. Dulos was a stickler for so-called Greek traditions, to the point that he threatened to have nothing to do with his own daughter if the Greek tradition of naming the child after her grandmother was not honored. And yet, he cremates his mother, something that is a big no-no in Greek culture.

RSBM: IMO. IMO. IMO. FD did not care about Greek traditions. He certainly did not care about Greek Easter. Traditions to a Malignant Narc are lip service. These people have learned to mimic what is socially acceptable/desired. It's mimicry and nothing heartfelt. The issue with naming the daughter was about CONTROL! NOT because he is is love with Greece. Don't forget the beloved childhood bicycle that was used to further the plan of JD murder. These people feel NOTHING! As for the cremation angle, ha! I have seen exact same thing done in an Italian family. The mother was devout Catholic and did not want cremation. The kids did it anyway. But, yeah, FD probably had something to hide. I bet he was involved in that barn fire too.

 

[sds71]

looks like this case is almost over
SAVINGS BANK OF DANBURY v. FORE GROUP. INC. Et Al
109.00 01/15/2020 P MOTION FOR APPOINTMENT OF PERMANENT RECEIVER

http://civilinquiry.jud.ct.gov/DocumentInquiry/DocumentInquiry.aspx?DocumentNo=18512069

 

[Jmoose]

In the search warrant signed by Judge John Blawie, investigators write Meehan encouraged them to obtain the report “which could assist us in gaining a better understanding of Jennifer’s…mental state.”

That report has never been made public. If it was, Pattis argues that any motive for the killing based on a bitter divorce would be moot. He said it will show Fotis is not the violent man prosecutors and those close to Jennifer have depicted.

I am sure she had mental health issues. I really don't think FD would want that report public. It will damn him, not save him. Is the report going to say that she went down Albany disposing of her own DNA?

The report won’t save him, as you said. Here is what is likely in the report...that a Jennifer may have had issues with anxiety and depression, which in my opinion, could go straight back to her treatment by FD for all of those years (he “broke” her). And likely took medication for these issues. The report probably does NOT say that FD is the direct cause of same issues. It probably says similar things about at least some of the children, and making the report public by NP is supposed to attribute these problems to Jennifer and her own issues.

What it likely says about FD is that he appears to have no discernible psychological problems, because he has spent his sociopathic/psychopathic life learning how to lure people into his disgusting universe with the personal charm we know he can turn on at will. He seems to be able to find and exploit the misogynists that enter his orbit, and did so with this doctor, too, IMO.

It can’t save him, because there is too much evidence that shows he is responsible. But I think he blames her for everything bad that is happening to her right now, and he is going to make sure that everyone knows she wasn’t the perfect wife and mother. He took everything from her and now that she’s dead, he is going to take her reputation. Oh, and Pattis is going to use this as an appeal issue, if he doesn’t get his way. Pattis already knows what is in the report, anyway, and he’s going to keep flouting the gag order by putting it out there, little by little.

 

[SkylarSid]

wonder if she has a private blog or other on line journal that is stored electronically. didn't she have an ipad?

I thought about that and I am sure her journals are in documents. Didn't we see a search warrant for her ICloud? But she also could have protected her documents with a password. JMO

 

[Jmoose]

looks like this case is almost over
SAVINGS BANK OF DANBURY v. FORE GROUP. INC. Et Al
109.00 01/15/2020 P MOTION FOR APPOINTMENT OF PERMANENT RECEIVER

http://civilinquiry.jud.ct.gov/DocumentInquiry/DocumentInquiry.aspx?DocumentNo=18512069

So prior to the arrest last week, FD was maintaining the property on a daily basis, but now there is waste accumulating? Where’s it coming from? Nobody lives there

 

[Jmoose]

I wonder why the police couldn't be called. Usually they will be there for these sorts of things. Moving out. Especially since there were previous instances of calls to the home. Maybe Jennifer didn't feel close enough to anybody to ask for help. Alot of people say they will help but when it comes right down to it, there's nobody to be found. Not saying that you personally wouldn't have helped, but that's often how it is. MOO.

I think she was afraid to call the police-FD May have been friendly with some of them

 

[sds71]

So prior to the arrest last week, FD was maintaining the property on a daily basis, but now there is waste accumulating? Where’s it coming from? Nobody lives there

maybe yard waste such as branches unmowed lawn

 

[oceancalling]

I wonder why the police couldn't be called. Usually they will be there for these sorts of things. Moving out. Especially since there were previous instances of calls to the home. Maybe Jennifer didn't feel close enough to anybody to ask for help. Alot of people say they will help but when it comes right down to it, there's nobody to be found. Not saying that you personally wouldn't have helped, but that's often how it is. MOO.

IMO she asked for help and got it. She had the resources to keep him from getting what he wanted-her money; the children were the only way he could get to it. What is so disheartening here is that Jennifer did have the resources, she did do everything possible to protect herself and her children, and the family court system failed her. We failed her. If her death does not spur major changes in the family court system in CT, there is something seriously wrong with the legislators in that state.

How about starting with a presumption against pretrial release in first degree murder cases, such that it is the defendant's burden to prove s/he is NOT a danger to the community or a flight risk? Such presumptions have been upheld by the USSCt and are employed every day in federal courts throughout this country to detain dangerous defendants. That is one immediate piece of legislation I would push for. Whether the CT Constitution, as interpreted by that state's highest court, would uphold the constitutionality of such legislation is something I leave to others.

 

[afitzy]

I make it a point not to watch the gasbag speak, but a recent picture of him shows that he is not the carefree, confidant litigator he claims to be. In fact, he is looking positively pasty and drawn. I am no fan of the guy, but if he hasn't had a physical lately, he really should.

I am in no way being sarcastic when I say he should start with his heart. He would not be the first defender to croak in the middle of a stressful case, especially those who do not pay attention to their health.

Maybe Dulos can introduce him to bicycling in a long-sleeved hooded sweatshirt in May, or running through the woods, taking care to avoid the poison ivy (remember Dulos' rashes at the time of his 1st arrest?). Nah, where he is going, he better immediately begin lifting weights and learning exercises for small spaces.

In the meantime, maybe he and Patter can work out together in the luxury work-out room at the Dulos' mansion, paid for with the blood money stolen from the Farber family. Now, I am being sarcastic.

Yes, Atty. P. hasn't been looking healthy from day 1 in this case and even after a nearly month vacation over the summer soon reverted to the state you identified as concerning.

I agree with you! The colouring and breathing along with general signs of exhaustion in a man his age are concerning. We have also seen Atty. P. moody and randomly cranky with the Press and I do wonder about diabetes or other blood sugar issues too, as he sometimes appears up and then down all within the span of minutes. Back issues could be present too as his last few walks to the Volvo indicated a very problematic gait and clear alignment issues IMO. Looked to be painful too!

Won't go there on the 4 day a week trips to the psychologist/psychiatrist. Nope, staying away other than to say please keep them up!

Lest folks here think I'm at all poking fun at Atty. P., I'm not. I've seen people die walking down the street who looked to be in better health than Atty. P. and I've seen people in the ER that look better than Atty. P. stroke out. Perhaps Atty. P. has a death wish and that is why he doesn't appear to take care of himself? IDK, but he looks like a walking cadaver on a good day IMO.

MOO