Deceased/Not Found CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #41

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  • #181
It’s a brand new day, so I’ll bite: since you seem to think Fotis didn’t do what he has been accused of, I’d love to hear your no doubt well-rounded and thoughtful theories on what REALLY happened to JD.

Enlighten us in our arrogance.
Don’t under estimate np.I could explain away almost everything in a way that is mostly unbelievable in light of the evidence.how ever could it sway one juror that’s all it would take! You could fire away and I could give you answers but I don’t think it would wise to give the defense this info.since we all believe that they watch this thread for useful info!
 
  • #182
Perhaps pills were delivered to him that morning?

If he shopped at Stop and Shop, he could easily have bought sleeping pills, Benadryl, cough medicines...all these things taken in great amounts
can kill you.
 
  • #183
Perhaps pills were delivered to him that morning?

If he shopped at Stop and Shop, he could easily have bought sleeping pills, Benadryl, cough medicines...all these things taken in great amounts
can kill you.
 
  • #184
@oceancalling, are you surprised Dulos did this? Would love to know your thoughts.
Not at all. He is the ultimate control freak, and let's not forget. He KNOWS he is guilty, and this suicide attempt is more evidence of his consciousness of guilt IMO. He never intended to be incarcerated again; I have expressed my opinion here before that he was testing the system, to determine its weak links (for purposes of escape), but he was unsuccessful in doing so. What is the ultimate control and escape? Suicide.

This man is a very damaged individual, who has been able to manipulate the legal system for many years. No doubt he was aided by his lawyers (these lawyers IMO are NOT representative of most lawyers), who supported the false narrative that Dulos was the victim. So couple his malignant narcissism with his need to control and escape the situation he has placed himself in, with his dawning knowledge that he was going to be incarcerated, and it becomes clear he was always a suicide risk. I would not be surprised to learn that this plan, like his plan to murder Jennifer, was well thought out in advance. The guy was never going to let anyone be the boss of him. If he recovers, he should be detained for his own safety, and closely monitored IMO.

The timing of this attempt, though, has got to be tied to the fact that he knew the jig was up. The house of cards was tumbling down such that Dulos must have thought he days of freedom were coming to an end. One way or the other, though, Dulos was never going to face the justice he deserved. MOO! MOO!
 
  • #185
Not at all. He is the ultimate control freak, and let's not forget. He KNOWS he is guilty, and this suicide attempt is more evidence of his consciousness of guilt IMO. He never intended to be incarcerated again; I have expressed my opinion here before that he was testing the system, to determine its weak links (for purposes of escape), but he was unsuccessful in doing so. What is the ultimate control and escape? Suicide.

This man is a very damaged individual, who has been able to manipulate the legal system for many years. No doubt he was aided by his lawyers (these lawyers IMO are NOT representative of most lawyers), who supported the false narrative that Dulos was the victim. So couple his malignant narcissism with his need to control and escape the situation he has placed himself in, with his dawning knowledge that he was going to be incarcerated, and it becomes clear he was always a suicide risk. I would not be surprised to learn that this plan, like his plan to murder Jennifer, was well thought out in advance. The guy was never going to let anyone be the boss of him. If he recovers, he should be detained for his own safety, and closely monitored IMO.

The timing of this attempt, though, has got to be tied to the fact that he knew the jig was up. The house of cards was tumbling down such that Dulos must have thought he days of freedom were coming to an end. One way or the other, though, Dulos was never going to face the justice he deserved. MOO! MOO!

Yes. Thank GOD those kids were kept from him. imo.
 
  • #186
If he shopped at Stop and Shop, he could easily have bought sleeping pills, Benadryl, cough medicines...all these things taken in great amounts
can kill you.
I think he was blindsided by the emergency bond hearing, and he also knew there was no hope to secure more money (and he knew his bond was secured on fraudulent inf0).

While he might have had a contingency suicide plan, I don't think he had firm plans until that very morning. He made some last-minute attempts to secure another bondsman, which tells me he wasn't suicidal in the general sense, but only when all efforts to obtain money didn't work. It was then that he made the decision, and I don't think it was a scheme or an escape attempt - I think he meant it.

My hunch is he called NP that morning and either couldn't get through (NP was in D.C. with another client) or was rebuffed in some way - or felt like it. All hope for continued legal maneuvering to keep him out of jail and to keep his fraudulent finances from the public was gone. So he decided to be gone too.

Speculation.

jmo
 
  • #187
It irritated me no end to see the clip of him being loaded into Lifestar to be transported to Jacobi...with everyone holding a sheet and being so careful of his privacy. That doesn't happen to John Q Public on the daily, and it really irked me!!!! Just had to vent that.

Since it appeared he was in cardiac arrest, and they were doing CPR on scene, I am going to guess he's on a vent. I doubt he'll make a full recovery.
I completely agree with your comment that this type over-treatment doesn't happen to the average Joe.
Wonder if this could be a CYA move since this is a high profile case and lots of people don't wanna get sued.
As I've said before we have several h. chambers
in my area, most that I know of are privately
owned and used primarily for valuable horses,
not human.
But my point is I've never heard of an accused
murderer being given the extra benefit of a
h. chamber after he tried to kill himself.
Why all the extra measures for FD?
 
  • #188
ok, now it's time for me to talk directly to FD's family and friends reading this. FD decided he wanted to die. unfortunately, it seems he was not completely successful. that's FD for ya. anyway, if FD is end stage as the reports indicate the humane (something FD was never able to achieve) thing to do is unplug him and let him die. and no, his children do not need to see him as closure. just put him in a box and ship it back to where ever he came from. and have a good life. MOO.
Not good man.
 
  • #189
I completely agree with your comment that this type over-treatment doesn't happen to the average Joe.
Wonder if this could be a CYA move since this is a high profile case and lots of people don't wanna get sued.
As I've said before we have several h. chambers
in my area, most that I know of are privately
owned and used primarily for valuable horses,
not human.
But my point is I've never heard of an accused
murderer being given the extra benefit of a
h. chamber after he tried to kill himself.
Why all the extra measures for FD?
I'm glad extraordinary measures were taken. <modsnip: Derogatory terms or nicknames are not allowed.>
 
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  • #190
I completely agree with your comment that this type over-treatment doesn't happen to the average Joe.
Wonder if this could be a CYA move since this is a high profile case and lots of people don't wanna get sued.
As I've said before we have several h. chambers
in my area, most that I know of are privately
owned and used primarily for valuable horses,
not human.
But my point is I've never heard of an accused
murderer being given the extra benefit of a
h. chamber after he tried to kill himself.
Why all the extra measures for FD?

I felt like he was treated differently every step of this case. Always. I've never understood why. He doesn't even have any real money, lol.

If Gloria had been of average means, I think Fotis may have 'won', sadly.
 
  • #191
I completely agree with your comment that this type over-treatment doesn't happen to the average Joe.
Wonder if this could be a CYA move since this is a high profile case and lots of people don't wanna get sued.
As I've said before we have several h. chambers
in my area, most that I know of are privately
owned and used primarily for valuable horses,
not human.
But my point is I've never heard of an accused
murderer being given the extra benefit of a
h. chamber after he tried to kill himself.
Why all the extra measures for FD?
Are you suggesting there was an elaborate plan to poison himself enough to lose a pulse, be revived, and then sent to the Bronx? And the medical team all went along with it?

Serious question. I can't see that happening, as a plan.

jmo
 
  • #192
Yeah, saying goodbyes most likely. imo. I personally think that's why they took heroic measures and kept him breathing, so loved ones could see him while still 'alive'. This case has always made me very sad in a way that none other has.

On another note, why do people get so upset when someone posts an opinion that differs from the norm? I mean, I don't agree with it, but I just ignore it and respect the person's right to post their opinion / thoughts. I just don't see the big deal and, yes, I have been watching and following this case since day one too.

If Jennifer had been my daughter, Fotis would have lost his ability to walk and talk a long time ago, so, I get it, but maybe be more open to differing opinions here, as the same old opinions being rehashed in different ways isn't that productive, really.

There are so many people here who have the ability to 'crime solve' essentially from their computers and I do marvel at so many people so often. Lots of amazing brains. IMO
I for one appreciate and enjoy new opinions and viewpoints, as I think most of us here do. I think the reaction to those with differing viewpoints has more to do with the delivery than the differing opinion, if you catch my drift.

As long as people are kind, courteous and respectful, no one here takes issue with different viewpoints.
 
  • #193
I am wondering about any immunity from prosecution deals with the other lawyer and exgirlfriend. If Dulos can't be brought up for trial, those other two defendants might have lost a lot of bargaining power, unless they can now testify against each other.
 
  • #194
I completely agree with your comment that this type over-treatment doesn't happen to the average Joe.
Wonder if this could be a CYA move since this is a high profile case and lots of people don't wanna get sued.
As I've said before we have several h. chambers
in my area, most that I know of are privately
owned and used primarily for valuable horses,
not human.
But my point is I've never heard of an accused
murderer being given the extra benefit of a
h. chamber after he tried to kill himself.
Why all the extra measures for FD?

I think there was just a collective, "Oh no ya don't.....not so fast!" Is it right? I don't know, but the fact that his suicide attempt was not out of a life long battle with depression but an attempt to escape justice makes human nature come out and not want to let him get away with it!
 
  • #195
I am wondering about any immunity from prosecution deals with the other lawyer and exgirlfriend. If Dulos can't be brought up for trial, those other two defendants might have lost a lot of bargaining power, unless they can now testify against each other.
IMO, they hold the trump card, which is info regarding the location of Jennifer's remains. What did they do with her? That info is valuable to them, and my hunch is they are figuring out how to use that to their advantage right now, with FD likely unable to testify against them.

jmo
 
  • #196
I think there was just a collective, "Oh no ya don't.....not so fast!" Is it right? I don't know, but the fact that his suicide attempt was not out of a life long battle with depression but an attempt to escape justice makes human nature come out and not want to let him get away with it!
I think the medical team responded like they would with any other suicide case.

Surely people don't want medical personal to decide whom to give treatment to, withholding care if they don't approve of the patient?

jmo
 
  • #197
I think he was blindsided by the emergency bond hearing, and he also knew there was no hope to secure more money (and he knew his bond was secured on fraudulent inf0).

While he might have had a contingency suicide plan, I don't think he had firm plans until that very morning. He made some last-minute attempts to secure another bondsman, which tells me he wasn't suicidal in the general sense, but only when all efforts to obtain money didn't work. It was then that he made the decision, and I don't think it was a scheme or an escape attempt - I think he meant it.

My hunch is he called NP that morning and either couldn't get through (NP was in D.C. with another client) or was rebuffed in some way - or felt like it. All hope for continued legal maneuvering to keep him out of jail and to keep his fraudulent finances from the public was gone. So he decided to be gone too.

Speculation.

jmo

I think Dulos suicide attempt got away from him, as in it got away from his control over it. IMHO the suicide attempt was just that, an attempt for the attention, to stall for time, to get out of the last minute bond hearing where he was absolutely going to be re- incarcerated.

I think FD underestimated his POWER to abort the 'suicide mission' at any moment, thinking HE could over power the carbon monoxide and sort of stumble out into the driveway on his own when LE showed up and timed just right for maximum coverage..and sympathy...and a hospital stay, then escape, stall, sympathy, plead for his children..but he underestimated the gas is going to make you immobile...and once stuck in the CO, you are not moving to get out of it..
 
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OFFICE OF CHIEF DISCIPLINARY COUNSEL V. Mawhinney
103.00 01/28/2020 C ORDER
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http://civilinquiry.jud.ct.gov/DocumentInquiry/DocumentInquiry.aspx?DocumentNo=18595234
 
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