Deceased/Not Found CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #43

[missingm]

Why doesn't the Greek Family stay at 80 Mountain Spring?

It has most recently been an AirBnB property, managed by none other than AC herself, IMO.

I am Sure the Greek Family will Not have Any issue staying at 80 MS.

Right?

IMO.

I don't think we know where they are staying. NP may have just used them to argue for picking the receiver for the property. In any case they need access to the property so I have no issue with them staying there. More than likely it will just be a handful of relatives making arrangements for FD's burial or cremation and the handling of personal effects.

 

[MsBetsy]

He also said NP can explain the garbage bags. Ok, maybe this is why he was frustrated by the gag order. I suppose there's a 1% chance that someone besides KM, MT, or FD killed her. And he had nothing to do with it. It just so happened though that he somehow went over to JD's house and said, "oh my. Look at the mess" and felt compelled to do some house cleaning rather than call the cops. But I'm more inclined to think at this point that the suicide note is a lie.

He had plenty of time before the gag order was in place to explain the garbage bag disposal.
Why didn't he?

 

[ojd599]

how did FD suburban get to Welles? On the 23rd or the 24th? Who drove it back to JX? I think KM had a very large part. IMO he took JFD in that car.

 

[ojd599]

revisesd -- behind Welles (few hundred feet on dead end)

 

[kay74]

Or that they were involved and he knows it. If he is claiming his innocence then he has to say they had nothing to do with it.
He is the only one who would know, besides them.
It would have been interesting if he had explained how he was so sure they weren't involved.

Imo

Huh? This is doubletalk. He made it very clear they had nothing to do with it. Without realizing what he was saying he let it be known it was him Alone.

 

[kay74]

I thought in the suicide note he said he (FD) was innocent?

And at the same time saying MY and KM had nothing to do with her death. How does he know this? Figure it out!

 

[kaen]

He had plenty of time before the gag order was in place to explain the garbage bag disposal.
Why didn't he?

Because until the arrest warrant was released, he did not know what they recovered. He definitely knew about the license plates because they were widely reported. Everything else had been dispersed. What if they had the bloody knife and nothing else? What if they had bags and the cleaning items and nothing else? They couldn't state anything because if the police had not found those particular items it would have been too risky. This is a necessary chess game because Fd thought he was so clever but in reality he created a defense nightmare---he was on video in his vehicle with MT, throwing away items in multiple dumpsters and drains. To admit to anything would be a death knell for his defense because it would be connected through his own or his attorney's admissions.

 

[Woodswarrior]

I wonder if we've been looking at this a bit in the wrong direction. Yesterday I mentioned in passing that maybe FD didn't kill JD. Rather KM killed her and FD just cleaned up. Not that that matters. But it might answer why FD thought he didn't kill JD and was being wrongfully accused. He's wrong of course. Someone presumably as smart as him should know that, but in his head, maybe he thought he was in the clear if he could just prove it. It gets worse. One thing that made no sense to me was why JD's shirt and bra were thrown away. This would lead one to assume that they were taken off JD. From pictures of KM, he seems like a creep. Maybe FD told him he could do what he likes with her. And maybe he did. That would explain the zip ties, bra, and shirt. After he was through, he killed her and left a mess. FD was hoping to make it look like a home invasion. That was the plan. But something changed. I'm hoping some of you sleuths can apply the timeline to this scenario. Maybe FD never intended to go to the house, never intended to clean up, never intended to throw stuff away in Hartford, never intended to get her car to the park, and never intended to be caught on the myriad of cameras all around town. Is it possible that the sightings of FD were actually KM? The don't really look alike but I never saw a really clear picture of him either. Maybe this is why FD felt he was innocent. There was kind of a quid pro quo going on between KM and FD. You kill my wife, I'll kill yours. And the cops will think you did yours in and I did mine in but they will be wrong and we can prove it.

I believe this is why KM and MT will not be off the hook. I'm now suspicious that KM did the deed. If so, he'll need to be held accountable. It doesn't matter that FD is dead. MT was probably the side kick. But MT would know one way or the other. Particularly because KM and her were in the office together afterwards answering the phone.

I have always felt the reason fd stripped her cloths off was because his dna could of been on her cloths.so the last thing he did before he buried her was pull all her cloths off.if the body was ever found he would not want his dna on her.this would reduce that risk?Im sure all of her cloths were dumped in Hartford that night, but the rest got picked up and had already gone thru the Mira plant by the time le searched there.moo

 

[MsBetsy]

[QUOTWell

Yes that last court appearance fd looked like a trapped rat! His eyes darting back and forth from judge white to np and around the room.he looked scared like a mouse about to get stepped on!! He new it was over.going back to that court appearance now makes me not so surprised he offed himself. Moo

I haven't seen that yet.
Where can I find it?

 

[kaen]

I wonder if we've been looking at this a bit in the wrong direction. Yesterday I mentioned in passing that maybe FD didn't kill JD. Rather KM killed her and FD just cleaned up. Not that that matters. But it might answer why FD thought he didn't kill JD and was being wrongfully accused. He's wrong of course. Someone presumably as smart as him should know that, but in his head, maybe he thought he was in the clear if he could just prove it. It gets worse. One thing that made no sense to me was why JD's shirt and bra were thrown away. This would lead one to assume that they were taken off JD. From pictures of KM, he seems like a creep. Maybe FD told him he could do what he likes with her. And maybe he did. That would explain the zip ties, bra, and shirt. After he was through, he killed her and left a mess. FD was hoping to make it look like a home invasion. That was the plan. But something changed. I'm hoping some of you sleuths can apply the timeline to this scenario. Maybe FD never intended to go to the house, never intended to clean up, never intended to throw stuff away in Hartford, never intended to get her car to the park, and never intended to be caught on the myriad of cameras all around town. Is it possible that the sightings of FD were actually KM? The don't really look alike but I never saw a really clear picture of him either. Maybe this is why FD felt he was innocent. There was kind of a quid pro quo going on between KM and FD. You kill my wife, I'll kill yours. And the cops will think you did yours in and I did mine in but they will be wrong and we can prove it.

I believe this is why KM and MT will not be off the hook. I'm now suspicious that KM did the deed. If so, he'll need to be held accountable. It doesn't matter that FD is dead. MT was probably the side kick. But MT would know one way or the other. Particularly because KM and her were in the office together afterwards answering the phone.

If KM had been there, his dna would have been as well. THere is no mention of unknown dna at the scene, Pattis would have seized on that.

 

[afitzy]

I tend to agree that his “wealth” was a shell game, especially after Jennifer left and took her trust fund payments with her. I am actually astounded, though, that he was still able to buy the best “everything”, though. We can’t afford a BMW, and we’ve worked all of our lives-couldn’t afford the electricity payments on a house the size of 4JX, etc. I realize he was using credit cards all over the place, but how was he paying them, if he was? How did he get credit extensions for as long as he did, to continue to buy things? I do know people who have the illusion of wealth, without the actual money to back it up-much of his credit was based on a sham; nice clothing (except for the velvet blazer), expensive car, pretend business, and a big fat attitude. It really is remarkable to me how he managed as long as he did.

Absolutely agree.

Atty Weinstein has allegedly said that Fd was selling furniture on Ebay to raise some cash. And these comments from our favourite (not) 'reposter' from the HC IMO are quite telling:

Dueling probate cases to be filed in Fotis Dulos death -- including one by Jennifer Farber Dulos’ mother

Quotes from article:

Since Farber Dulos is missing, Fotis’ Dulos’ parents are both dead, and his five children are minors, one of Dulos’ closest relatives is Farber, who has been taking care of the couple’s five children since Jennifer disappeared May 24. Dulos apparently didn’t leave a will naming an executor or a beneficiary.[BBM]

But attorney Norm Pattis said Friday that he would fight Farber from having any control, given the acrimonious relationship between them.

“We obviously are taking actions ourselves to open an estate on behalf of Mr. Dulos and we don’t think that Mrs. Farber should have any involvement,” Pattis said. “This is Mr. Dulos’ estate to be administered not Mrs. Farber’s."

Attorney Richard Weinstein, who represents Gloria Farber, said Friday that he also plans to open a probate estate for Dulos as a major creditor with a stake in some of the properties owned by The Fore Group, Dulos’ home building company.

Weinstein said that he wouldn’t allow Gloria Farber to personally administer the estate because there are clear conflicts — she is suing her son-in-law, arguing that he owes more than $2 million to the estate of her deceased husband, Hilliard Farber. That action is pending.

“I will ask there be a temporary administrator appointed,” Weinstein said. “I don’t expect they’ll be a positive money flow from his estate. He was selling furniture from the house on eBay so he had no funds.”[BBM]

Fotis Dulos is dead, leaving behind the mystery of what happened to Jennifer Farber Dulos »
Weinstein said if there was anything left of the estate after all the creditors were satisfied the money would go to his children.

Since there are two petitions to administer Dulos’ estate, the judge will have to hold a hearing to determine which one is more qualified. That hearing would likely take place quickly and each side would have to present who they would chose to be the administrator.

Weinstein said anybody can open a probate case on behalf of someone who has died, but in this case Gloria Farber has a major interest in the estate, particularly Dulos’ Jefferson Crossing home in Farmington.

Gloria Farber has a $2.3 million mortgage on the Jefferson Crossing home and is required to pay $21,000 in property taxes that Dulos has not paid. A trust on her behalf recently filed a foreclosure notice for the house.

 

[MsBetsy]

Because until the arrest warrant was released, he did not know what they recovered. He definitely knew about the license plates because they were widely reported. Everything else had been dispersed. What if they had the bloody knife and nothing else? What if they had bags and the cleaning items and nothing else? They couldn't state anything because if the police had not found those particular items it would have been too risky. This is a necessary chess game because Fd thought he was so clever but in reality he created a defense nightmare---he was on video in his vehicle with MT, throwing away items in multiple dumpsters and drains. To admit to anything would be a death knell for his defense because it would be connected through his own or his attorney's admissions.

True, but if he was so confident there was a reasonable explanation I'm wondering what that could be and why he didn't explain earlier.
After all, his last words were that it would prove his innocence.

 

[SkylarSid]

how did FD suburban get to Welles? On the 23rd or the 24th? Who drove it back to JX? I think KM had a very large part. IMO he took JFD in that car.

Welcome adj. Good questions, ones we would all love to have the answers to!

 

[afitzy]

Perhaps one of our sleuthers can check intestate (if he died without a will) - my guess is he has one - if so is it required to be filed with the court? My state has this
JMO

@oviedo, HC is reporting that there is allegedly no will from Fd.
Dueling probate cases to be filed in Fotis Dulos death -- including one by Jennifer Farber Dulos’ mother

 

[BluesClues0]

If KM had been there, his dna would have been as well. THere is no mention of unknown dna at the scene, Pattis would have seized on that.

Well, maybe that part of the plan was well thought out. It may be that just the cleanup was not well thought out.

 

[ojd599]

If KM had been there, his dna would have been as well. THere is no mention of unknown dna at the scene, Pattis would have seized on that.

True, but KM could have driven FD suburban back to Farmington. I haven't seen any tracking of that car. He could have disposed of the body. He could have dug another grave like he might've done at the rod and gun club. perhaps put in the Thule that was on the rack.

 

[Chicago54]

I finally made it to thread #43 and I’m still 46 pages and 881 posts behind.

I’ve been biting my tongue to avoid duplicate exclamations, frustrations, opinions and questions, but I cannot hold back any longer,

Ding Dong. The witch is dead!

Sorry, not sorry. What this man has done to five little lives is despicable.

Like most of you, as I have read through the information about the bond hearing, last interactions with him and his attorneys’ movements and words, I have been trying to put these pieces into puzzle of FDs head that led him to his garage.

IMO his cowardice and shame, at soon to be exposed as the charlatan he was, made him make a decision to regain control and have the last word. What better way than a dramatic soliloquy and final exit? Over done, sorry not taking questions.

So after 8 months of denials, shrugs, smirks, self-promoting interviews, one ridiculous alibi and explanation to come after another, what else was dangling out there that made him change course from ‘bring it on, trial now!’ to chicken little is going out the back way?

Makes me wonder about the last court appearance and NPs ruffled feathers about “The Tape”?
Anyone have any more insight on this. Audio? Video? Interview gone wrong? Nanny cam?

 

[MsBetsy]

Absolutely agree.

Atty Weinstein has allegedly said that Fd was selling furniture on Ebay to raise some cash. And these comments from our favourite (not) 'reposter' from the HC IMO are quite telling:

Dueling probate cases to be filed in Fotis Dulos death -- including one by Jennifer Farber Dulos’ mother

Quotes from article:

Since Farber Dulos is missing, Fotis’ Dulos’ parents are both dead, and his five children are minors, one of Dulos’ closest relatives is Farber, who has been taking care of the couple’s five children since Jennifer disappeared May 24. Dulos apparently didn’t leave a will naming an executor or a beneficiary.[BBM]

But attorney Norm Pattis said Friday that he would fight Farber from having any control, given the acrimonious relationship between them.

“We obviously are taking actions ourselves to open an estate on behalf of Mr. Dulos and we don’t think that Mrs. Farber should have any involvement,” Pattis said. “This is Mr. Dulos’ estate to be administered not Mrs. Farber’s."

Attorney Richard Weinstein, who represents Gloria Farber, said Friday that he also plans to open a probate estate for Dulos as a major creditor with a stake in some of the properties owned by The Fore Group, Dulos’ home building company.

Weinstein said that he wouldn’t allow Gloria Farber to personally administer the estate because there are clear conflicts — she is suing her son-in-law, arguing that he owes more than $2 million to the estate of her deceased husband, Hilliard Farber. That action is pending.

“I will ask there be a temporary administrator appointed,” Weinstein said. “I don’t expect they’ll be a positive money flow from his estate. He was selling furniture from the house on eBay so he had no funds.”[BBM]

Fotis Dulos is dead, leaving behind the mystery of what happened to Jennifer Farber Dulos »
Weinstein said if there was anything left of the estate after all the creditors were satisfied the money would go to his children.

Since there are two petitions to administer Dulos’ estate, the judge will have to hold a hearing to determine which one is more qualified. That hearing would likely take place quickly and each side would have to present who they would chose to be the administrator.

Weinstein said anybody can open a probate case on behalf of someone who has died, but in this case Gloria Farber has a major interest in the estate, particularly Dulos’ Jefferson Crossing home in Farmington.

Gloria Farber has a $2.3 million mortgage on the Jefferson Crossing home and is required to pay $21,000 in property taxes that Dulos has not paid. A trust on her behalf recently filed a foreclosure notice for the house.

How can he fight her for having any control?
Doesn't she have custody of the children?
Wouldn't any money he has left go to them?

 

[Deleted member 229974]

I wonder how many lawyers write things in court documents like, "Mr Dulos has friends and family who love him and have stood by him with a Spartan courage that is truly reflective of their Greek blood."

Did he write that for the benefit of the court, the public, or for the family?

IMO, none of the above. He wrote it for the legend that’s in his own mind. @@

 

[BellaVita]

Attorney Richard Weinstein, who represents Gloria Farber, said Friday that he also plans to open a probate estate for Dulos as a major creditor with a stake in some of the properties owned by The Fore Group, Dulos’ home building company.

AGAIN! Where was atty Midler in this? Everything about FORE is marital property. No matter what the deeds say! Were there ever liens placed to ensure Jennifer's interests?