Deceased/Not Found CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #51

[rjay]

Maybe I'm misremembering but wasn't it reported that on the date Jennifer vanished, KM arrived early at 4 JCross for an alleged meeting with his client FD and he was left waiting together with MT inside the Fore Group home office where MT would not answer the phone(s)?

I think FD said he conveniently forgot his phone at the office that day. I want to say this about MT and KM waiting in the office surfaced after MT confessed to lying about FD being home and in the shower with her in the early morning.

Also, think MT was using KM as part of her alibi that morning when in fact they were probably both waiting for their leader FD to report to them that Jennifer was dead.

Nonetheless, I'm sure KM's video cooperation is part truth, part omission. I just hope there's enough to counter the "he said," "she said.."

MOO

I completely agree with your thoughts on how this played out.

However, I also think that KM lied about some facts, ie. that FD and MT asked him for an alibi, and that he wanted nothing to do with it. All 3 were equal participants in my eyes.

MOO

 

[al66pine]

Disposal of License Plates?

Storm drains are intended to carry rainwater from roadways into local waterways (rivers and/or oceans) not for dumping (an environmental "no-no"), so he most likely tossed the plates in the storm drain knowing it was off to the Connecticut River and beyond and never to be found!

@LosAngeles Yes, imo you got it; putting the plates into storm water drain to wash away makes (some) sense.
Well, maybe less risk than in the sidewalk trashcan.
If someone looking for bottles, cans, whatever, opens that sidewalk can, the plates could have been tossed on sidewalk or someplace catching LE's attention. Not terribly likely, but -
--- easy for LE to connect plates to Fotis.
--- difficult for Fotis (if he had lived to be tried) give to plausible reason for disposing of plates at hinky place.
my2cts.

 

[rjay]

Disposal of License Plates?
@LosAngeles Yes, imo you got it; putting the plates into storm water drain to wash away makes sense.
Well, maybe less rick than in the sidewalk trashcan.
If someone looking for bottles, cans, whatever, opens that sidewalk can, the plates could have been tossed on sidewalk or someplace catching LE's attention. Not terribly likely, but -
--- easy for LE to connect plates to Fotis.
--- difficult for Fotis (if he had lived to be tried) give to plausible reason for disposing of plates at hinky place.
my2cts.

It is also more difficult to incinerate.

 

[sleuth66]

I’m not a lawyer but aren’t deals like we assume that KM has made contingent on the person telling all he or she knows? MOO.

Edited to fix my typos! Sorry!

Not necessarily, in the Navin case Valiente (girlfriend) got a plea deal with reduced sentence but didn’t admit guilt, tell everything she knew, or cooperate with the state. (Alford plea- see clip below). She plead guilty to hindering prosecution in exchange for dropping the conspiracy charge.
A familiar cast of characters in this case to boot (and not just the ponytailed goblin, indeed, Colangelo has said he and his team learned a lot from the Navin case that they’re applying in the Dulos investigation.)

It’s worth reading Valiente’s arrest warrant- how she followed behind KN and lied about it just like MT, the text messages, the bleach and cleaning supplies, the taped together trash bags- you will see MT to a T in JV here. For me the question is will MT be able to get away with something similar? That’s where KM comes in...
https://westportnow.com/JenniferValianteArrestWarrant.pdf

“Defense Attorney Norm Pattis has been involved in cases similar to the Jennifer Dulos case.
In the spring of 2015, husband and wife Jeffrey and Janette Navin vanished.
Just like in the Dulos case, police searched through landfills, searching for the remains of the couple.
In that case, it was their own son and his girlfriend who quickly became the prime suspects in their deaths and disappearances.
Pattis said there are similarities to what’s happening right now.
“There is a body somewhere in CT, and that body will tell a story,” Pattis said.
Watching the developments from afar, he said it is a fascinating, yet heartbreaking case.
This missing mother of five is presumed dead, but just where the body of Jennifer Dulos is, is the question everyone wants answered.
“I woke up this morning thinking of the family of the missing woman and how anguished they are,” Pattis said, adding that the Dulos case reminds him of the deaths of Jeffrey and Jeanette Navin.
In April of 2015, the Navin couple disappeared from their Easton home.
Months later their bodies were found under a pile of leaves behind a house.
Their son Kyle Navin is now serving 55 years for killing his parents.
His girlfriend, Jennifer Valiente, whom Pattis represented, is serving eight years in prison for conspiracy to commit murder and hindering prosecution.
“Our defense there was mere presence. Mr. Navin was the killer we contended, we never participated with the state or cooperated. We were asked to, but it was never my client’s intention to do that,” Pattis said.”
Local defense attorney weighs in on case of missing mom
Note: this was before NP took on FD as a client, in case it sounds a bit anachronistic.

 

[pernickety]

^^rsbm

Actually, there is but it's really moot point now. FD committed fraud when he completed his bond application with surety -- lied about his collateral.

NP's assurance in court was most likely NP attempting to position the value of the IRA as collateral for security interest for what was yet to come (i.e., emergency bond hearing on date FD attempted suicide).

At this time, NP was probably also worried about his own security interest as FD had not made good on a deposit yet. However, FD did eventually make the retainer payment in January -- shortly before his demise -- and NP kept it, but that's yet another subject in this complicated case!

MOO

http://civilinquiry.jud.ct.gov/DocumentInquiry/DocumentInquiry.aspx?DocumentNo=19411268

11. Prior to September 2019 Pattis & Smith was provided the sum of $155,000 in connection with the June agreement to cover attorneys’ fees and expenses.

See pg 2 Atty Hug’s complaint v. P & S

The $250k they received in January 2020 was the second retainer fee.

 

[pernickety]

Retainer for Pattis.
@Seattle1 Yes, 'assurance' question (which I had presumed was related to 'security' for bond) is moot. I had overlooked timing: the hearing occurred ~ yr ago, while Fotis was still alive. My bad.

So Fotis first lied about his collateral, then was slow to ante up retainer for Pattis? Any $ amts mentioned? That's another subject, you say? I'll bite if you or anyone wants to link or spill. Thanks again.
So much I've missed.

http://civilinquiry.jud.ct.gov/DocumentInquiry/DocumentInquiry.aspx?DocumentNo=19411268

$155,000 FD paid for June agreement with P&S prior to Sept 2019; then $250,000 in Jan. 2020, according to estate administrator Hug's complaint.

 

[Morgan10028]

Why do you suppose he put it in a storm drain? That just seems like such a weird place and certainly unusual, meaning anyone seeing it would wonder as well. MOO.

I think he believed it would be gone forever, irretrievable. I think MT thought so too. Can't wait to hear her response to that one. And what about that large mat from Jennifer's suburban that he walked by her door and dropped right before her eyes? Nope, didn't question him about that either?

And if FD was just dumping garbage because he didn't want to pay for a dumpster, then why drop one bag at a time when there is clearly room in each receptacle for more bags? Troconis knows the answers to all of these questions, and the jurors will too. She was complicit. MOO

 

[pernickety]

His girlfriend, Jennifer Valiente, whom Pattis represented, is serving eight years in prison for conspiracy to commit murder and hindering prosecution.

Jen Valiante's sentence was actually 16 yrs, suspended after 8 with 5 yrs. probation--for the conspiracy; 8 yrs for hindering. Don't know if sentences are consecutive or simultaneous.

https://www.jud2.ct.gov/crdockets/C...ding&Key=0a43b5dc-cba5-48fe-8054-9a82f7781099

 

[Tink56]

OH....MY....This twisted web just keeps going. Love the fact that the interview was dropped in with the rest of evidence. Colangelo to AS...."You want evidence? Here 'ya go!"

Seriously, during 2.5 hour interview AS only relates that KM says MT and FD asked to help on May 23 and the office/house at 4JX was empty on the morning of the 24th? Seems to me that there is a whole lot of talking that JS isn't sharing. KM, IMO, is protecting himself, but MT is in this up to her ears, too. The resolution will take a lifetime.

Love the discussion about the Albany Avenue date. The only excuse for MT's lack of knowledge that I could find to be true is she mentally challenged. JS doesn't answer Ashleigh's questions well at all.

We've never had an explanation of the "party" at 4JX on the 23rd. If others were there, LE knows if KM was in attendance. I'm bothered (this is from memory only) about the phone pings at Mountain Spring during the "getting more meat" trip by FD. Wasn't KM's phone pinging there also?

LE also seems to have exonerated MT early in the investigation for her movements on the 24th. There is the possibility that when KM arrived at 4JX on the morning of the 24th, his phone was there, MT was taking her daughter to school. I need to go back and look at the warrants. However, there is the piece about the AT phone call from Greece. FD was very sure he had an alibi for that morning. He sold it to NP initially.

This is going to require some re-reading of warrants. Thanks for posting the interview @Morgan10028!

I did go back and re-read KM's warrant and MT's....such a confusing mess, time wise and KM's initial 'memory loss.' In the first interview with police on June 9th, KM says he couldn't remember meeting with FD on the 23rd or the 24th of May. In the second interview on June 25th, he remembered that he had a meeting scheduled with FD for the morning of the 24th. He says he arrived at 7:40 and stayed for 40-50 minutes. He claimed he did not see MT. (She claims he was in the office, and she and FD's phone were there also. She also claims he told her to answer the call from AT at 8:26 A.M.)

KM says he did not remember being in contact with FD on the 23rd and doesn't remember a phone call during the evening of the May 24th (at the close of the Albany Avenue Disposal Date at 7:47 P.M.)

Obviously, he changed his story in the recent LE interviews from his June 2019 interviews.

Here's other information from the arrest warrant. KM's phone records show that:

• After inquiring about The Windsor Road and Gun Club and how to access the grounds as he was thinking about 'rejoining,' his phone pinged near East Granby on March 29, 2019, at 1:09 P.M. near the club. (The hole 2 ft X 6ft X 3ft was discovered on May 18, 2019. It contained a blue tarp, 2 bags of lime, and was covered by grill grates and leaves. On May 22, 2019 it was found to be half filled with water and the lime was gone. In early June the hole was filled with dirt and disguised.)
• On May 31, 2019, at 11:04 P.M. KM's phone pinged near the Gun Club again. FD and MT was officially arrested on June 1, 2019, but I believe they were taken into custody on May 31, 2019.
• On May 23, 2019, KM's phone pinged near 4JX at 5:21 and 5:23 P.M. This is at the time FD left 4 JX for meat shopping expedition. He pulled into Mountain Spring Home for approximately 7 minutes during this time.
• On May 24, 2019, KM phone pinged at FD's from 7:29 through 8:22 A.M. He denies seeing MT. Of note, the phone time for the AT phone call is 8:24 A.M. If the phone records for KM are correct, he may be right in that he didn't see MT that morning.

I also found it interesting that MT claimed she received texts from FD on the morning of May 24. Was she sending texts to her phone from FD's. No mention of whether or not these were verified in the arrest warrants.

Reference....I'm not clever enough to get the search warrant photos onto WS...sorry:
https://newcanaanite.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Kent-Mawhinney-arrest-warrant.pdf
Arrest warrant for Fotis Dulos, Michelle Troconis

 

[Morgan10028]

I did go back and re-read KM's warrant and MT's....such a confusing mess, time wise and KM's initial 'memory loss.' In the first interview with police on June 9th, KM says he couldn't remember meeting with FD on the 23rd or the 24th of May. In the second interview on June 25th, he remembered that he had a meeting scheduled with FD for the morning of the 24th. He says he arrived at 7:40 and stayed for 40-50 minutes. He claimed he did not see MT. (She claims he was in the office, and she and FD's phone were there also. She also claims he told her to answer the call from AT at 8:26 A.M.)

KM says he did not remember being in contact with FD on the 23rd and doesn't remember a phone call during the evening of the May 24th (at the close of the Albany Avenue Disposal Date at 7:47 P.M.)

Obviously, he changed his story in the recent LE interviews from his June 2019 interviews.

Here's other information from the arrest warrant. KM's phone records show that:

• After inquiring about The Windsor Road and Gun Club and how to access the grounds as he was thinking about 'rejoining,' his phone pinged near East Granby on March 29, 2019, at 1:09 P.M. near the club. (The hole 2 ft X 6ft X 3ft was discovered on May 18, 2019. It contained a blue tarp, 2 bags of lime, and was covered by grill grates and leaves. On May 22, 2019 it was found to be half filled with water and the lime was gone. In early June the hole was filled with dirt and disguised.)
• On May 31, 2019, at 11:04 P.M. KM's phone pinged near the Gun Club again. FD and MT was officially arrested on June 1, 2019, but I believe they were taken into custody on May 31, 2019.
• On May 23, 2019, KM's phone pinged near 4JX at 5:21 and 5:23 P.M. This is at the time FD left 4 JX for meat shopping expedition. He pulled into Mountain Spring Home for approximately 7 minutes during this time.
• On May 24, 2019, KM phone pinged at FD's from 7:29 through 8:22 A.M. He denies seeing MT. Of note, the phone time for the AT phone call is 8:24 A.M. If the phone records for KM are correct, he may be right in that he didn't see MT that morning.

I also found it interesting that MT claimed she received texts from FD on the morning of May 24. Was she sending texts to her phone from FD's. No mention of whether or not these were verified in the arrest warrants.

Reference....I'm not clever enough to get the search warrant photos onto WS...sorry:
https://newcanaanite.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Kent-Mawhinney-arrest-warrant.pdf
Arrest warrant for Fotis Dulos, Michelle Troconis

Well done, Tink, thank you for this! I re-read the warrant yesterday as well and what jumped out at me more than anything else was how many times MT was called out for lying on pretty much EVERY topic she was asked about.

I actually think the new information out of KM indeed spotlights Troconis' lies and complicity more than when I initially read the warrant. MOO The one MAJOR thing I wanted to know is if KM stated that he saw MT at 4JX on May 24th, and he never said he did during his interviews with LE. To me, it made his new information more believable. See attached ss from Mawhinney's January 2020 AW (link in @Tink56 attached post)

One thing I was confused by is KM stated "Why would I direct someone to answer a phone?" in either his 1st or 2nd interview, BOTH interviews occurred in June 2019. MT did not say until her 3rd interview on August 13, 2019 that KM directed her to answer the incoming call from Andreas.

Did KM know MT was going say KM directed her to answer the phone, BUT not know that she had not said it to LE yet? Keep in mind that MT was not to have contact with FD, per the court, though I have yet to see or hear anything prohibiting MT from speaking with KM up until his January 2020 arrest. Further, there was nothing in place prohibiting FD from speaking to KM per the court, up until their January 2020 arrests.

Important to note when reading the attached screen shots from KM's January 2020 Arrest Warrant:
KM:
Interview 1: 6/9/19
Interview 2: 6/25/19

Troconis:
Interview 1: 6/2/19
Interview 2: 6/6/19
Interview 3: 8/13/19

On another note, I don't believe for a second that KM knows nothing about the gun club. I'm surprised he would even say that given how familiar he must be with his AW and the evidence LE has on the subject. It makes me all the more eager to hear what he said in that interview...MT and FD were under heavy 'watch' by then (5/31/19).

MOO

 

[pseudo_hum]

I completely agree with your thoughts on how this played out.

However, I also think that KM lied about some facts, ie. that FD and MT asked him for an alibi, and that he wanted nothing to do with it. All 3 were equal participants in my eyes.

MOO

Agreed. IMO, anyone of them could have prevented this tragedy. IMO

 

[Seattle1]

One thing I was confused by is KM stated "Why would I direct someone to answer a phone?" in either his 1st or 2nd interview, BOTH interviews occurred in June 2019. MT did not say until her 3rd interview on August 13, 2019 that KM directed her to answer the incoming call from Andreas.

^^RSBM

I believe the response above you're questioning was in direct reply to a couple of questions KM was asked by investigators.

I believe KM had told investigators that he did not remember if FD called him on a certain date and when asked again if perhaps FD called and he did not answer is when KM gave the reply to mean that he would likely answer if he tells others to answer ringing phones!

(I think LE was in possession of FD's outgoing call history when the question came up). MOO

 

[Megnut]

^^RSBM

I believe the response above you're questioning was in direct reply to a couple of questions KM was asked by investigators.

I believe KM had told investigators that he did not remember if FD called him on a certain date and when asked again if perhaps FD called and he did not answer is when KM gave the reply to mean that he would likely answer if he tells others to answer ringing phones!

(I think LE was in possession of FD's outgoing call history when the question came up). MOO

And as I recall, the hesitation in answering the phone was because the Greek caller called on the WRONG LINE.

And IMO careful script-followers didn't know what to do.

She had ONE job to do.... and it went sideways.

JMO

 

[Tink56]

Well done, Tink, thank you for this! I re-read the warrant yesterday as well and what jumped out at me more than anything else was how many times MT was called out for lying on pretty much EVERY topic she was asked about.

I actually think the new information out of KM indeed spotlights Troconis' lies and complicity more than when I initially read the warrant. MOO The one MAJOR thing I wanted to know is if KM stated that he saw MT at 4JX on May 24th, and he never said he did during his interviews with LE. To me, it made his new information more believable. See attached ss from Mawhinney's January 2020 AW (link in @Tink56 attached post)

One thing I was confused by is KM stated "Why would I direct someone to answer a phone?" in either his 1st or 2nd interview, BOTH interviews occurred in June 2019. MT did not say until her 3rd interview on August 13, 2019 that KM directed her to answer the incoming call from Andreas.

Did KM know MT was going say KM directed her to answer the phone, BUT not know that she had not said it to LE yet? Keep in mind that MT was not to have contact with FD, per the court, though I have yet to see or hear anything prohibiting MT from speaking with KM up until his January 2020 arrest. Further, there was nothing in place prohibiting FD from speaking to KM per the court, up until their January 2020 arrests.

Important to note when reading the attached screen shots from KM's January 2020 Arrest Warrant:
KM:
Interview 1: 6/9/19
Interview 2: 6/25/19

Troconis:
Interview 1: 6/2/19
Interview 2: 6/6/19
Interview 3: 8/13/19

On another note, I don't believe for a second that KM knows nothing about the gun club. I'm surprised he would even say that given how familiar he must be with his AW and the evidence LE has on the subject. It makes me all the more eager to hear what he said in that interview...MT and FD were under heavy 'watch' by then (5/31/19).

MOO

I was shocked by the phone times, because it makes it probable that KM was NOT at 4JX when AT called. His phone records say he left 2 minutes before that call from Greece came in.

Am assuming that LE checked that MT did in fact take her daughter to school, but was she carrying around FD's phone to send text messages to herself? Was she really at 4JX when AT called?

MT's story went from seeing both KM and FD at the glass table in the office, to seeing FD's phone and KM.

I agree that MT was communicating with FD through someone or some method. On the release of the arrest warrants in August, FD was willing to let NP call her a "lying lover." One day later, that line was dropped. FD found out that MT did NOT admit he wasn't in the house. She said it was a "big house" and he was probably in the office.

KM's response about, "Why would I tell someone to answer a phone," was in response to a question by LE, IMO. I don't think he generated the discussion. KM and MT may have been the link to FD, but KM knew that LE was looking closely at both of them. I'm not sure he would risk it, as he was still pretty much in the clear.

Thinking on computer....BUT, IMO, FD was the person who called KM on January 8 when the most recent arrest warrants were issued. NP arrived at FD's before the police and warned FD, and FD called KM.

Can't wait to find out more! MOO...IMO

P.S. The arrest warrant I had above for MT was the June 2019. Sorry....Here's the most recent warrant from January:
Jennifer Dulos Case: Read the Full Michelle Troconis Arrest Warrant

 

[Morgan10028]

I think he believed it would be gone forever, irretrievable. I think MT thought so too. Can't wait to hear her response to that one. And what about that large mat from Jennifer's suburban that he walked by her door and dropped right before her eyes? Nope, didn't question him about that either?

And if FD was just dumping garbage because he didn't want to pay for a dumpster, then why drop one bag at a time when there is clearly room in each receptacle for more bags? Troconis knows the answers to all of these questions, and the jurors will too. She was complicit. MOO

This topic sent me into a rabbit hole...and yes, I am replying to my own comment (as well as @Hope). I wanted to mention the Albany Ave construction and remember it also coming up much earlier in these threads, yet thought it might be easier to just search it again.

Thankfully, this Albany Avenue rejuvenation project played a huge role in nailing MT (and FD) IMO. The project spanned Albany Ave from Homestead Ave to Bedford St and included separating storm water and sewer systems along MT and FD's entire Albany ave route (see attached pics 1 and 2). The irony of the attached before and after pics of the very spot of the license plate drop amazes me (ss pics 3 and 4 attached). I included a zoom shot of the before pic (ss 5 attached) to show the pools of water in the drain system prior, along with insight into the area of town they decided to spend their Friday night. It's unclear if the drain system was even in use as of May 24, 2019 as the AFTER pics were posted/dated October 2020. Video of FD's license plate drop/Troconis shielding view of drop here: Video shows Fotis Dulos dropping a FedEx package into a storm drain in Hartford, state police says (image directly below is a still from linked video)

The stop below is at Albany and Blue Hills Ave, where a paper towel with a "bloodlike stain from paper towel/DNA match to Jennifer" was recovered along with the license plates down the storm drain. According to Schoenhorn, Troconis wiped her 'gum' off in a dirt bed, NOT the sidewalk and NOT down the drain, but wiped her hand in dirt (see ss 7 attached). Conveniently, FD stopped the Truck not near the trash can this time as he so precisely did at Garden St (following), but just over the drain with the passenger door aligned. MOO
NOTE: This stop is not included in the time stamped stops in the AW.

I can barely see a bag in FD's hands to drop in the bin, so there may have been another stop on the block before to drop a bag. In which case, there was not other reason for this stop other than to drop the license plates. MOO

SS 6 (7:39 pm stop Albany Ave and Garden St) shows the area where FD/MT stopped to drop Jennifer's car mat and dump 1 bag (which the video clearly shows a remaining bag, yet the video shows plenty of room for that last bag in that trash bin). CHECK OUT THE LOCATION OF THAT CAMERA! MOO Video: Video shows man state police say is Fotis Dulos dumping garbage bags in Hartford city trash cans

I recall Colangelo referring to Schoenhorn's video release as 'incomplete", which doesn't surprise me in the least bit given Schoenhorn's attempts to control the Troconis narrative/PR Circus. There were clearly more than 3 stops and more than 3 bags (containing Jennifer's DNA) dropped on the Albany Ave evidence dump, just not caught on CCTV. MOO

Interestingly, Schoenhorn didn't release the 7:41 pm bag drop video at Albany Ave and Green Street, where the following DNA was recovered, inclusive of 2 matches to Michelle Troconis' DNA: (see attached ss 8, the only westbound public trash receptacle on google maps, chart below from KM AW)

More to come on this, just wanted to put some visuals to the arrest warrant...and the excuses. MT/FD were off CCTV for 7 minutes dumping bags (as noted in the AW that prior to the turn on Milford St where "several plastic bags can be seen in the rear bed of the pick-up" and when it re-merged for the Albany/Garden St dump, the bed of the pick-up was largely empty of bags). What on earth do you think they were doing for 7 minutes on side-streets? Another romp to add to the 2 that MT has already stated in her AW's? MOO

PS. SORRY FOR THE LONG POST!!

1st ss link:
Albany Ave Project No 00630633

ss 2, 3, 4, 5 ss Link:
Albany Avenue at Hartford Project (Route 44)

ss 6, 7, 8: google maps
Google Maps

 

[Jmoose]

Thinking on computer....BUT, IMO, FD was the person who called KM on January 8 when the most recent arrest warrants were issued. NP arrived at FD's before the police and warned FD, and FD called KM.

Can't wait to find out more! MOO...IMO

P.S. The arrest warrant I had above for MT was the June 2019. Sorry....Here's the most recent warrant from January:
Jennifer Dulos Case: Read the Full Michelle Troconis Arrest Warrant

I have always thought that FD called KM about the imminent arrest.

 

[Megnut]

This topic sent me into a rabbit hole...and yes, I am replying to my own comment (as well as @Hope). I wanted to mention the Albany Ave construction and remember it also coming up much earlier in these threads, yet thought it might be easier to just search it again.

Thankfully, this Albany Avenue rejuvenation project played a huge role in nailing MT (and FD) IMO. The project spanned Albany Ave from Homestead Ave to Bedford St and included separating storm water and sewer systems along MT and FD's entire Albany ave route (see attached pics 1 and 2). The irony of the attached before and after pics of the very spot of the license plate drop amazes me (ss pics 3 and 4 attached). I included a zoom shot of the before pic (ss 5 attached) to show the pools of water in the drain system prior, along with insight into the area of town they decided to spend their Friday night. It's unclear if the drain system was even in use as of May 24, 2019 as the AFTER pics were posted/dated October 2020. Video of FD's license plate drop/Troconis shielding view of drop here: Video shows Fotis Dulos dropping a FedEx package into a storm drain in Hartford, state police says (image directly below is a still from linked video)

The stop below is at Albany and Blue Hills Ave, where a paper towel with a "bloodlike stain from paper towel/DNA match to Jennifer" was recovered along with the license plates down the storm drain. According to Schoenhorn, Troconis wiped her 'gum' off in a dirt bed, NOT the sidewalk and NOT down the drain, but wiped her hand in dirt (see ss 7 attached). Conveniently, FD stopped the Truck not near the trash can this time as he so precisely did at Garden St (following), but just over the drain with the passenger door aligned. MOO
NOTE: This stop is not included in the time stamped stops in the AW.

I can barely see a bag in FD's hands to drop in the bin, so there may have been another stop on the block before to drop a bag. In which case, there was not other reason for this stop other than to drop the license plates. MOO

SS 6 (7:39 pm stop Albany Ave and Garden St) shows the area where FD/MT stopped to drop Jennifer's car mat and dump 1 bag (which the video clearly shows a remaining bag, yet the video shows plenty of room for that last bag). CHECK OUT THE LOCATION OF THAT CAMERA! MOO Video: Video shows man state police say is Fotis Dulos dumping garbage bags in Hartford city trash cans

I recall Colangelo referring to Schoenhorn's video release as 'incomplete", which doesn't surprise me in the least bit given Schoenhorn's attempts to control the Troconis narrative/PR Circus. There were clearly more than 3 stops and more than 3 bags (containing Jennifer's DNA) dropped on the Albany Ave evidence dump. MOO

Interestingly, Schoenhorn didn't release the 7:41 pm bag drop video at Albany Ave and Green Street, where the following DNA was recovered, inclusive of 2 matches to Michelle Troconis' DNA: (see attached ss 8, the only westbound public trash receptacle on google maps, chart below from KM AW)

More to come on this, just wanted to put some visuals to the arrest warrant...and the excuses. MT/FD were off CCTV for 7 minutes dumping bags (as noted in the AW that prior to the turn on Milford St where "several plastic bags can be seen in the rear bed of the pick-up" and when it re-merged for the Albany/Garden St dump, the bed of the pick-up was largely empty of bags). What on earth do you think they were doing for 7 minutes on side-streets? Another romp to add to the 2 that MT has already stated in her AW's? MOO

PS. SORRY FOR THE LONG POST!!

1st ss link:
Albany Ave Project No 00630633

ss 2, 3, 4, 5 ss Link:
Albany Avenue at Hartford Project (Route 44)

ss 6, 7, 8: google maps
Google Maps

Excellent reporting.

It almost looks like she's snuffing out a cigarette. As an excuse to look in the drain? Perhaps previous drains didn't pass whatever test? Or maybe the drain became an opportunity when she spied it?

It looks like FD has the FedEx box. Second thoughts about trashing it? So maybe it was MT's brainchild to sewer it?

Absolute trash. Odyssey of callousness.

JMO

 

[Morgan10028]

I was shocked by the phone times, because it makes it probable that KM was NOT at 4JX when AT called. His phone records say he left 2 minutes before that call from Greece came in.

Am assuming that LE checked that MT did in fact take her daughter to school, but was she carrying around FD's phone to send text messages to herself? Was she really at 4JX when AT called?

MT's story went from seeing both KM and FD at the glass table in the office, to seeing FD's phone and KM.

I agree that MT was communicating with FD through someone or some method. On the release of the arrest warrants in August, FD was willing to let NP call her a "lying lover." One day later, that line was dropped. FD found out that MT did NOT admit he wasn't in the house. She said it was a "big house" and he was probably in the office.

KM's response about, "Why would I tell someone to answer a phone," was in response to a question by LE, IMO. I don't think he generated the discussion. KM and MT may have been the link to FD, but KM knew that LE was looking closely at both of them. I'm not sure he would risk it, as he was still pretty much in the clear.

Thinking on computer....BUT, IMO, FD was the person who called KM on January 8 when the most recent arrest warrants were issued. NP arrived at FD's before the police and warned FD, and FD called KM.

Can't wait to find out more! MOO...IMO

P.S. The arrest warrant I had above for MT was the June 2019. Sorry....Here's the most recent warrant from January:
Jennifer Dulos Case: Read the Full Michelle Troconis Arrest Warrant

OMG @Tink56!!! I never realized before now that KM's phone places him at 4JX from 7:29 am-8:22 am and that the ANSWERED call from Andreas came through on FD's phone at 4JX at 8:24 am on 5/24/19! THIS IS HUGE! MT never said she saw anyone else at the house that morning, so SHE KNEW exactly what FD was up to.

Michelle Troconis is T.O.A.S.T imo, MOO

 

[Morgan10028]

Excellent reporting.

It almost looks like she's snuffing out a cigarette. As an excuse to look in the drain? Perhaps previous drains didn't pass whatever test? Or maybe the drain became an opportunity when she spied it?

It looks like FD has the FedEx box. Second thoughts about trashing it? So maybe it was MT's brainchild to sewer it?

Absolute trash. Odyssey of callousness.

JMO

Thank you! It never occurred to me that MT was looking for the right drain, but it's a GREAT thought! Google maps is now updated to June 2019 on Albany Ave, so now's the time to look.

Although it has been said that MT didn't smoke cigarettes, it occurred to me that she could be putting out a different kind of lit cigarette. She was on a drug screen for a period of time, and Schoenhorn filed several motions requesting the release of drug screens...just sayin. MOO

 

[Seattle1]

And as I recall, the hesitation in answering the phone was because the Greek caller called on the WRONG LINE.

And IMO careful script-followers didn't know what to do.

She had ONE job to do.... and it went sideways.

JMO

I'd never heard that before. I suppose the call from Greece was supposed to be another alibi for FD that he was in the office on 5/24 in the morning talking on the landline to Andrea versus out stalking and murdering his wife.

It also explains why MT was hesitant to answer FD's cell phone but I believe it also confirms that KM most likely witnessed the hesitation by MT to answer the ringing cell phone on the desk that was a point of annoyance to KM, and/or his trying to cover his own tracks with phone evidence that he was in-fact at the Fore Group office and not with FD when the murder was actively committed.

MOO