Still Missing CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #60

[jennyjenny]

In the interview played in Court yesterday, one particular question/answer perfectly demonstrated who MT is.

She'd laid out her beliefs about JFD's mental health based on what she claimed FD told her - in forwarding the theory that JFD had "gone girl'd" herself.

LE pointed out that JFD has five children. They asked MT whether she would ever leave her daughter like that.

MT responded. "No." And they asked why not, and MT responded, "That's not healthy. That's not what a healthy person does."

A normal mother would respond that it would be painful for their child; that their child needs their mother.

But, MT just talked about how it would make her look.

yes, Diddian, I caught that answer too ... MT is so gross!

 

[afitzy]

I hope this jury isn’t hoodwinked into thinking this defendant is hyper confused and can’t tell right from wrong due to her feigned inability to understand or comprehend the English language. Right from wrong or morality or just plane common sense (why aren’t I phoning the police right away about the recent and strange behavior of my boyfriend after his estranged wife went missing…oh that’s right, because I’d go to jail, too! Ahh!) is universal and way before we got to these criminal proceedings, she was very involved in hiding multiple funds and moving money (and cars) for places unknown to protect herself and FD in the FORE group civil case (FD gave MT 75K to purchase real estate etc.). Bad behavior is her thing.

She was a financial/criminal co-conspirator then and in my opinion, a murdering/criminal co-conspirator now. It still baffles me why the state did not pursue the financial shenanigans civil and criminal case related to FORE group (maybe too many offshore challenges & Rena and friends spent all of the assets)?

This "middle aged" lady is NOT innocent. She knows/knew exactly what she was doing and is just trying to twist everyone in the wind to confuse the facts.

I am SO with you on this. The financial crimes that FD and MT were involved with via their participation in the activities of the Fore Group have never been prosecuted by the Govt. GF on behalf of her husbands estate, sued FD and Fore in Civil Court for loans that were not repaid.

Just got finished reading the core documents in the Civil Case documents (read them all ages ago when the trial happened and need a refresher) where GF Atty Weinstein brilliantly imo summaries the extent of the FD financial shenanigans over a period of time going back to when JF father was alive and started loaning FD money. And without rehashing it all, its clear that over a good 10 year period FD used the Fore Group to take and not repay (roughly $3.0 million total on two promissory notes) from the Farber Family. The filings did not include any money FD took from JF while married and didn't include any other cash generated by Fore via accounting manipulation and most likely tax fraud. The Civil Case does document how FD used Fore funds to pay for travel with MT and her daughter multiple times. FD also spent many years moving money around between FORE and Greece using his sister, Rena and a NY attorney (Phoupfas) as well as various Greek friends. The ongoing suspicion was the FD legal fees were paid from Greece via the NY Greek Atty and most likely were funds that FD had socked away from Fore and also possibly taken from JF while married. MT was also involved with taking money given to her by FD to participate in a real estate with a friend of FD. My take on all of this is that these games and manipulations had been going on for years and GF and Atty Weinstein were simply trying to get the loaned funds back from FD. The fraud, misstatement, inappropriate accounting really are just FD and MT are as human beings. Greed is a terrible thing and as we are seeing in this horrific case it can push people to do horrific things!

I did this look at the Civil Case basic document after doing a social media stroll to see that the Troconis Crew has sealed documents from the State of CT Family Court on their social media (illegal). We also see TP making use of sealed Family Court documents to make public statements with false information about his client, MT both on social media and in the current criminal trial which is troubling.

Part of the reason for posting some of this most basic information (overall situation is much more complex than this obviously from a tax and cash standpoint and went on for many many years) is to simply put out there that MT was intimately involved with the conduct of business at Fore despite her maintaining the front of having her own rug business during this period.

I think the 'two peas in a pod' image is appropriate as it relates to FD and MT. There really wasn't anything at Fore that MT didn't know about and there wasn't anything that FD was doing that MT didn't know about imo. To see the proclamations of lack of knowledge made by MT, her family and TP simply imo defies the facts of the overall situation.

We heard MT say in her Law Enforcement interviews that FD credit card paid for some of her expenses. FD then deducted everything it appears for tax purposes. I wonder if that is called the "Mistress and Daughter" deduction?


MOO

 

[LosAngeles]

yes, Diddian, I caught that answer too ... MT is so gross!

Yet, I don't think a "healthy" mother would live with someone who murdered his wife and orphaned his 5 children either. I think a "healthy" mother would quicky grab her daughter and run for the hills away from such a monster for fear of her own life and that of her daughters. And call the authorities pronto!

 

[Diddian]

After members of the Windsor Rod & Gun Club discovered the grave sized hole covered with BBQ grates (and with tarp and bags of lime inside) on 5/18/19, they took some action to ensure that no one would accidentally trip over the hole (removing the grates and kicking around debris so the hole was obvious). When one of those members rechecked the hole on 5/22/19, it was half-filled with water and the bags of lime were missing. When one of the members checked it again early June 2019, it was all filled in.

My guess is that KM checked the area between 5/18 and 5/22 and concluded that the hole was no longer a viable burial spot as it had been discovered and disturbed by others, so he removed the bags of lime. He was probably there on 5/31 at 11 pm to fill the hole in.

Here is the relevant section of Mawhinney's Arrest Affidavit:

Quoting my own post to note that, what this means to me, is IF this hole was the original intended burial location for JFD's remains, then it may have been on 5/18/2019 that one or more of the conspirators discovered they had to revise their plans and cover their existing tracks.

They had only 6 days (5/18 to 5/24) to select and prepare an alternate location (unless they had already selected and prepared a backup location). So, locations any of them (particularly FD) traveled to and any communication that occurred among them during the six days preceding JFD's disappearance was probably critical to determine.

It is possible that, while KM was involved in securing the initially planned burial spot in East Granby, he was left out of the loop involving the one actually used.

 

[Diddian]

I am SO with you on this. The financial crimes that FD and MT were involved with via their participation in the activities of the Fore Group have never been prosecuted by the Govt. GF on behalf of her husbands estate, sued FD and Fore in Civil Court for loans that were not repaid.

Just got finished reading the core documents in the Civil Case documents (read them all ages ago when the trial happened and need a refresher) where GF Atty Weinstein brilliantly imo summaries the extent of the FD financial shenanigans over a period of time going back to when JF father was alive and started loaning FD money. And without rehashing it all, its clear that over a good 10 year period FD used the Fore Group to take and not repay (roughly $3.0 million total on two promissory notes) from the Farber Family. The filings did not include any money FD took from JF while married and didn't include any other cash generated by Fore via accounting manipulation and most likely tax fraud. The Civil Case does document how FD used Fore funds to pay for travel with MT and her daughter multiple times. FD also spent many years moving money around between FORE and Greece using his sister, Rena and a NY attorney (Phoupfas) as well as various Greek friends. The ongoing suspicion was the FD legal fees were paid from Greece via the NY Greek Atty and most likely were funds that FD had socked away from Fore and also possibly taken from JF while married. MT was also involved with taking money given to her by FD to participate in a real estate with a friend of FD. My take on all of this is that these games and manipulations had been going on for years and GF and Atty Weinstein were simply trying to get the loaned funds back from FD. The fraud, misstatement, inappropriate accounting really are just FD and MT are as human beings. Greed is a terrible thing and as we are seeing in this horrific case it can push people to do horrific things!

I did this look at the Civil Case basic document after doing a social media stroll to see that the Troconis Crew has sealed documents from the State of CT Family Court on their social media (illegal). We also see TP making use of sealed Family Court documents to make public statements with false information about his client, MT both on social media and in the current criminal trial which is troubling.

Part of the reason for posting some of this most basic information (overall situation is much more complex than this obviously from a tax and cash standpoint and went on for many many years) is to simply put out there that MT was intimately involved with the conduct of business at Fore despite her maintaining the front of having her own rug business during this period.

I think the 'two peas in a pod' image is appropriate as it relates to FD and MT. There really wasn't anything at Fore that MT didn't know about and there wasn't anything that FD was doing that MT didn't know about imo. To see the proclamations of lack of knowledge made by MT, her family and TP simply imo defies the facts of the overall situation.

We heard MT say in her Law Enforcement interviews that FD credit card paid for some of her expenses. FD then deducted everything it appears for tax purposes. I wonder if that is called the "Mistress and Daughter" deduction?


MOO

You mention tax fraud. I also think a look into the possibility of insurance fraud may be warranted as twice in my research into properties in any way associated with FD/ForeGroup, "cleaning and restoration" services has come up - both involving homes FD/JFD once lived in.

I'm also curious whether anyone knows whether FD gained US citizenship as a result of his first marriage.

 

[LosAngeles]

You mention tax fraud. I also think a look into the possibility of insurance fraud may be warranted as twice in my research into properties in any way associated with FD/ForeGroup, "cleaning and restoration" services has come up - both involving homes FD/JFD once lived in.

I'm also curious whether anyone knows whether FD gained US citizenship as a result of his first marriage.

Imbedded in my notes on FD: So, I don't think so (citizenship question)
He graduated from Brown University in 1989, and later earned an MBA in finance from Columbia Business School. In 2000, he married Hilary Aldama. The marriage lasted 4 years. He married Jennifer @ The Metropolitan Club in 2004 (same year as divorce).

 

[afitzy]

Posting this article, sort of a summary of Day 9. Mostly helpful because it contains the correct spelling for some if the names we've been guessing at. For example, Assistant State's Attorney McGuinness. Maybe when this is all over and the defendant is lead away clinking, we can buy him a round.

JMO

https://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/article/troconis-trial-jennifer-dulos-alibi-scripts-18625078.php

I'd actually love to send him a tee shirt with whatever he so brilliantly described having happened in the Welles Garage....

Was it a squirrel eating a hamburger with radish fries or something along those lines? It was so good and I cannot recall so if anyone knows please post back.

Thanks

 

[afitzy]

Imbedded in my notes on FD: So, I don't think so (citizenship question)
He graduated from Brown University in 1989, and later earned an MBA in finance from Columbia Business School. In 2000, he married Hilary Aldama. The marriage lasted 4 years. He married Jennifer @ The Metropolitan Club in 2004 (same year as divorce).

My guess is 1st marriage was for citizenship. My guess is 2nd marriage was for $$$. I don't think FD would ever have married MT as she started as a side piece and remained one for the duration until he dumped her for Anna Curry.

 

[afitzy]

I recall several years ago there was mention of a home in West Hartford that essentially butted up to the many acres of conserved land behind 4JC where they would dirt bike in the area of Reservoirs 3 and 5. That was the home I believe FD gave MT money towards a down payment for. I haven't heard mention of the home in some time. Does anyone remember it? One evening there were many, many police cars in the adjacent public area parking lot and access was shut. The home might have been on Sunset Farm Road IIRC. I looked it up at the time and it was most definitely in need of a renovation. It's odd I haven't noticed mention of it.

IIRC the house/property you might be thinking about is 123 Hunter Drive, West Hartford, CT I believe this property was renovated by Fore and it was where MT and her daughter lived for a period of time.
Here the link to the real estate listing and you can even see MT cowskin rugs in the lR:

https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/123-Hunter-Dr_West-Hartford_CT_06107_M43937-66830'

Do you recall this one being searched by LE? I don't recall them spending much time in west hartford.

 

[sleuth66]

I think I remember the home you are talking about, painted bright white as I recall.. 2 story, with a covered patio at the second level to one side, and a daylight basement. The property sloped down from the street, so that at the street you looked down at the home. It was all white and gray inside, like other ForeGroup properties, but was more modest in square footage. I remember thinking, looking at the photos of the interior... I bet ForeGroup funded all the furnishings (that is, Farber $ paid to furnish Fotis' girlfriend's home).

I've looked through my notes and not yet been able to recover the address. Will keep looking.

$650,000. 123 Hunter Drive. Fore Group Inc. to Guillaume Vidallet, deed filed on May 31, 2017.

Westmont Colonial Sells for $988,800 - We-Ha | West Hartford News

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NOTE: the Westmont Colonial pictured at start of article is not the house, the house was much more modest.

See also post #52 thread #14 in this discussion.
Hypothesis was that FD purchased this for MT and her daughter to live in, it closed 2 weeks before JFD left.

Also: I believe a loan officer was fired over this transaction, if I’m remembering correctly. There is discussion of this property in thread 14.

 

[citygirl]

December 2019:

Fotis Dulos arrives in court to testify in civil case

Dulos has not been charged with harming Jennifer- who has been missing since May - or killing her, but police have accused him and his girlfriend of tampering with evidence.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Wait. Did he just say I wish Jennifer and her children a Happy Holiday? OMG.
JMO.

 

[MX27875]

I just re read this in my notes:
Police said, “Mawhinney’s cell phone polled the tower in East Granby which appears to service the site of the Windsor Rod & Gun Club,” on May 31, at 11:04 p.m.

What was he doing 7 days after Jennifer's murder squirreling around a club he was no longer a member at 11:00 p.m. at night (and hadn't been for 6 or 7 years)? I realize he snuck in and dug a shallow grave, but nothing became of that, correct?

I wish we had a rolling timeline of these 3 people now that facts are surfacing and have been validated.

This is also the same date where the friends at the barbecue notified them of their impending doom. Something about that startled KM enough for him to go back to the gun club on May 31st.The grave that he dug was kicked in by the club members who discovered it on May 18th.

There was not much in the arrest warrant about KM besides the fact that he is suspected to have dug the discovered grave, and he would not cooperate with LE in the early stages. They definitely did not tie how exactly they linked him to what happened to Jennifer in the arrest warrant. I am curious to see what exactly the missing link is that LE did not reveal in the warrants.

What startled KM enough to go back to the club the night the police found the evidence in Hartford?
The grave was obviously discovered and kicked in a few days before JDs murder.

I think that KM thought they got away with it, and no one would suspect him despite the grave being discovered. Then, when stuff hit the fan, he had to rush back to the club to hide or move something. Theoretically, you could saythat the grave was for his wife, and this does not tie into the murder of JD. But it does because it was in the AW, and the grave on the hunting club is somehow part of the JD case. The prosecution thinks they can prove it, and you really can’t prove very much with the scant details we got in the KM AW.

MOO

 

[citygirl]

IIRC the house/property you might be thinking about is 123 Hunter Drive, West Hartford, CT I believe this property was renovated by Fore and it was where MT and her daughter lived for a period of time.
Here the link to the real estate listing and you can even see MT cowskin rugs in the lR:

https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/123-Hunter-Dr_West-Hartford_CT_06107_M43937-66830'

Do you recall this one being searched by LE? I don't recall them spending much time in west hartford.

Don't recall the house but do remember searches in that reservoir. More than once, IIRC.

 

[sleuth66]

IIRC the house/property you might be thinking about is 123 Hunter Drive, West Hartford, CT I believe this property was renovated by Fore and it was where MT and her daughter lived for a period of time.
Here the link to the real estate listing and you can even see MT cowskin rugs in the lR:

https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/123-Hunter-Dr_West-Hartford_CT_06107_M43937-66830'

Do you recall this one being searched by LE? I don't recall them spending much time in west hartford.

GV (Fore Employee) sold this house in December 2017- it was in his name after being transferred from FORE group ownership with some funny $ involving MT.
Thus the suggestion it was purchased for MT and her daughter at the end of May. When JFD left mid June, MT could now move in to 4JC, and after 6 months it was sold.

This property was also mentioned in the civil
Case deposition Farber v Fore Grouo at the end of 2019:
“Line 15 Can you explain to me the transaction involving 123 Hunter Drive in West Hartford?

Privileged use sustained

Line 19 Can you explain to me whose idea it was to acquire 123 Hunter Drive in West Hartford?

Privileged use sustained

Page 26, Line 23 Can you explain to me the transaction and how you were involved in that transaction?

Privileged use sustained

Page 27, Line 2 Did you receive any money from the 123 Hunter Drive, West Hartford, transaction?

Privileged use sustained”

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[citygirl]

GV (Fore Employee) sold this house in December 2017- it was in his name after being transferred from FORE group ownership with some funny $ involving MT.
Thus the suggestion it was purchased for MT and her daughter at the end of May. When JFD left mid June, MT could now move in to 4JC, and after 6 months it was sold.

This property was also mentioned in the civil
Case deposition Farber v Fore Grouo at the end of 2019:
“Line 15 Can you explain to me the transaction involving 123 Hunter Drive in West Hartford?

Privileged use sustained

Line 19 Can you explain to me whose idea it was to acquire 123 Hunter Drive in West Hartford?

Privileged use sustained

Page 26, Line 23 Can you explain to me the transaction and how you were involved in that transaction?

Privileged use sustained

Page 27, Line 2 Did you receive any money from the 123 Hunter Drive, West Hartford, transaction?

Privileged use sustained”

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She took the 5th on all these questions?

 

[Laughing]

I'd actually love to send him a tee shirt with whatever he so brilliantly described having happened in the Welles Garage....

Was it a squirrel eating a hamburger with radish fries or something along those lines? It was so good and I cannot recall so if anyone knows please post back.

Thanks

Perhaps include this on tee-shirt:


Target

iirc, squirrel, cheeseburger, and horseradish were all mentioned?

Perhaps this was fan favorite Rocket J. Squirrel, flying back & forth across JFd's garage during an athletic lunch? Hhhmm, Rocket J. Squirrel would have thwarted -- whoever bloodied that garage & took JFd....

Universal Pictures

jmho ymmv lrr

 

[kaen]

I think that he knew exactly when the kids went to school in the morning and that JD would be the one to bring them. I am sure that he was asking all kinds of questions of the kids even with the court monitor on the scene for the supervised visits. If the kids had phones, he could have had location services on for their devices.

They were about to embark on summer vacation and prime water skiing at the club so, I would imagine he was gathering data from the kids in any way that he could. I am sure that the kids were never really interviewed to any extent to determine the BS he was spewing.

With the nanny, it seems like her work time was often the noon to evening hours. I think he knew her routine as well. He could have easily found out from the kids because she took them to sports and hung out at home with them.

I had always thought that he was planning to take them out of the country to Greece. I am sure that he never thought JD would put up a fight and that he would have to improvise the way that he had to that day.

I will say that PG is lucky that there was the videos from Albany Ave found because Fd brought his phone. I have no doubt that Fd would have thrown him and anyone else under the bus if he could have. But, JD, even though she knew she was going to die, made sure that Fd would be held accountable by fighting so hard.

Again quoting myself in order to answer my own question.
Hoodie biking guy in his dark clothes riding on a dark bicycle is captured on video at 7:31 am, by my math about halfway to Welles. JFd arrives back home at 8:05 am.
Based on my own guesstimates using Google Maps, FD could have arrived at Welles as early as 7:40 plus a few minutes but was certainly on track to get there before she did.

FD must have predicted JFd morning routine, drop the kids off, return home. Did he assume there'd be no nanny?

Just breaks my heart to think about JFd's plans for the day, largely bracketed around her children, while FD was taking deliberate steps to destroy that, converging in ambush.

Every day should feel this good. (From the logo on JFd's shirt)

Gut punch.

JMO

Fotis Dulos Arrest Warrant | PDF

Fotis Dulos, 52, of Farmington, has been charged with murder, felony murder and kidnapping in the disappearance of Jennifer Dulos, 50, of New Canaan, who was last seen May 24 as she dropped the couple’s children off at school.

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[citygirl]

I think that he knew exactly when the kids went to school in the morning and that JD would be the one to bring them. I am sure that he was asking all kinds of questions of the kids even with the court monitor on the scene for the supervised visits. If the kids had phones, he could have had location services on for their devices.

They were about to embark on summer vacation and prime water skiing at the club so, I would imagine he was gathering data from the kids in any way that he could. I am sure that the kids were never really interviewed to any extent to determine the BS he was spewing.

With the nanny, it seems like her work time was often the noon to evening hours. I think he knew her routine as well. He could have easily found out from the kids because she took them to sports and hung out at home with them.

I had always thought that he was planning to take them out of the country to Greece. I am sure that he never thought JD would put up a fight and that he would have to improvise the way that he had to that day.

I will say that PG is lucky that there was the videos from Albany Ave found because Fd brought his phone. I have no doubt that Fd would have thrown him and anyone else under the bus if he could have. But, JD, even though she knew she was going to die, made sure that Fd would be held accountable by fighting so hard.

Great post.

 

[carolmaria]

This article came out very early; some poignant details about Jennifer from the Providence Journal: Couple met at Brown University; now she's missing, and he's facing charges

 

[waldojabba]

$650,000. 123 Hunter Drive. Fore Group Inc. to Guillaume Vidallet, deed filed on May 31, 2017.

Westmont Colonial Sells for $988,800 - We-Ha | West Hartford News

West Hartford real estate transfers for the period May 29 – […]

we-ha.com

NOTE: the Westmont Colonial pictured at start of article is not the house, the house was much more modest.

See also post #52 thread #14 in this discussion.
Hypothesis was that FD purchased this for MT and her daughter to live in, it closed 2 weeks before JFD left.

Also: I believe a loan officer was fired over this transaction, if I’m remembering correctly. There is discussion of this property in thread 14.

https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/123-Hunter-Dr_West-Hartford_CT_06107_M43937-66830