Still Missing CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #60

[BUF]

Interesting….MT could have elected for a 12 panel jury…

https://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/article/michelle-troconis-jennifer-dulos-trial-jurors-18635360.php

 

[citygirl]

Given that the testimony of PG and discussion of the Red Tacoma appears imminent, I wanted to put up a brief X post from NBC CT, Shannon Miller who chose it seems to simply "REPOST" some commentary of the Troconis Crew on PG (this is just a tidbit on the topic so feel free to search social media to see the rest) with zero context and absolutely no attempt to obtain a response from CSP or CT States Attorney Office or conducting any independent research. This is just one example from chronic "reposter" Shannon Miller of NBC CT of what has been going on now for four years as the Troconis Crew and TP have had 'free access' to public airwaves, social media and local press media with virtually no investigation as to the veracity of their statements and NO COMMENT from the State. Its effectively been a one way misinformation campaign that imo was allowed by the various media outlets in the State and Shannon Miller NBC CT has imo effectively set itself up as the official mouthpiece for TP and the Troconis Clan and my strong guess is that there is most likely money on the table for 'exclusive' interviews.

Judge R has chosen to take a blind eye to the issue of the impact of the imo poor (lack of) reporting and unrestrained commentary of TP in this case and any potential impact on the jury pool for this trial as well as on the ability of any member of the public attempting to watch the trial and understand fully what is going on.

There has been no gag order in this case and imo given that there is zero communication coming from the State, there has just been a one way flow of information to the public with no investigation or questioning by the Media and certainly imo NEVER Shannon Miller, NBC CT.

IMO these comments from the Troconis Crew and TP ALL constitute misinformation and I strongly disagree with no gag order in this case. The States communication since Day 1 of this tragic case has imo been horrendous and an absolute disservice to the VICTIM and the Victims family. But, if the State has the policy of choosing NOT to speak then why not simply issue a motion for a gag to prevent what has been going on from continuing?

Shannon Miller, NBC CT made this series of posts on the topic of a Family Statement with no context such that anyone seeking to understand the overall situation would be remotely able to evaluate the comment from the Troconis Crew about PG. Without getting into the nitty gritty of defamation, libel and slander, I hope that PG and his attorney evaluate these ongoing statements by the Troconis Crew and their release by NBC CT Shannon Miller quite carefully and respond accordingly.

Just wanted to put this out there so others can see that the Troconis Crew due imo to the imo overall ineptitude of employees such as NBC CT Shannon Miller can simply place statements for public consumption with any responsibility as to what is being posted to the public.

The TP comments and the ongoing Courthouse step commentary (always surprisingly captured by NBC CT) frankly aren't that different from the Troconis Crew statements imo. I would love to 'fact check' TP along with his statements made in trial but there are simply not enough hours in the day to do so. Its disappointing that Judge R has chosen to not hold TP to account for misleading, perhaps false or misinformation during the course of his representation of MT. Then I realize that this is Connecticut and this is simply sadly par for the course.

MOO and MAD AGAIN

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Shannon Miller
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Dec 8, 2023

NEW: #MichelleTroconis’ parents release statement after learning one of Fotis Dulos’ former employees was granted immunity in the Jennifer Dulos murder case and that there may be other potential co-conspirators who have not been charged:



Shannon Miller
@_ShannonMiller
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Dec 8, 2023

“We are heartbroken and deeply troubled following the revelations from yesterday’s hearing. We learned that there were other uncharged suspects, and that someone close to Fotis Dulos was granted immunity through a verbal agreement back in 2019 by the former chief state prosecutor





Shannon Miller
@_ShannonMiller
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Dec 8, 2023

(Cont.) without any thorough investigation. Our hearts ache as we see the focus unfairly narrowing only to our beloved daughter, Michelle.



Shannon Miller
@_ShannonMiller
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Dec 8, 2023

Despite her earnest cooperation with the police back in 2019, she has been enduring these burdensome charges for over four and a half years. It’s agonizing for us to watch our innocent daughter suffer under the weight of a system that seems to be turning a blind eye to justice


Shannon Miller
@_ShannonMiller

We plead with everyone involved, especially the investigators, to see the pain and injustice being inflicted upon Michelle and to reconsider the direction of their pursuit. Our family’s plea is simple: seek the truth and fairness that Michelle so rightly deserves.”


7:08 AM · Dec 8, 2023
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Hopefully, if the jurors are honest, they have not seen this or any posts by the family moving forward. I can see your concerns. JMO.

 

[Alkali13]

Did that look like the body language of a 'happy couple'? FD was pacing around like a caged animal and MT had her arms across her chest in a defensive posture. All I can say is "NO BUENO"...all is not well in paradise imo which gets me back to the MT Law Enforcement interviews we have seen so far where we see MT supporting the non alibi scrips and FD. I'm not sure what TP was talking about today with MT being cooperative with LE efforts to solve the case. It seems like a very low bar on any level to equate "cooperation" with "showing up"!

My guess is that the Jury will correctly just view the MT testimony as ongoing tampering and hindering as I don't have any other words to explain it.

MOO

The body language made me physically uncomfortable. I need to watch it again, but she seems scared and, as you mentioned, defensive. I have so many questions that will never get answered, but if I blindly saw them with no context, I would be genuinely worried for the woman. She's trying to make herself smaller and nervously wringing her hands. He also asks for the first couple of bites of her sandwich and she pretty much feeds it to him which rubs me the wrong way on a lot of levels. I would honestly assume it was an abusive relationship of some sorts, which we now know that in some ways, it was. It was his pattern.

I've long wavered on the depth of MT's involvement... not whether or not she was involved, but how it came to be that way, how much she knew beforehand, how active she was beyond alibis and clean up, etc. FD is the kind of narc who chooses partners that he can manipulate and control. The victim doesn't recognize it as such in the moment, and I'm not entirely sure the narcissist always knows they're doing it, but it's a pattern of behavior. We see now that MT took a lot of what he said at face value, because he was persuasive and confident in his delivery. Of course he was; he's an evil narcissist, he can only ever be correct in his mind.

I'm not remotely trying to excuse or downplay MT's involvement; whether she was in on it before the crime, the morning of, or during clean up doesn't matter. She CHOSE to lie to investigators to protect FD. Repeatedly. Fear can be a strong persuasive tool, but FD can't hurt her anymore in this lifetime (more than he already has). At any point, she could've made the choice to come completely clean. She could've offered up any and everything she knew to try for a plea. Instead, now we get to see her day after day in different earth tones hiding behind her hair and cell phone.

Like I said though, FD chose partners he could manipulate and control. Once he could no longer do that to JFD, she became a "problem" for him to get rid of. He tried to persuade her to come back (as we are currently learning), and when it was clear that wouldn't work, he decided to end her life and ruin the lives of so many people in his orbit, including his own children.

 

[Jmoose]

I have a question…Why does JS think that it’s significant that the video from the neighbor’s house on Mountainside, belongs to the Manafort family (yes, those Manaforts)? Is he trying to discredit their VIDEO by its association with the Manaforts, of the Paul Manafort family??

 

[Megnut]

I only caught this in re-listening.

Thr defendant claimed that the first she'd heard that something happened to Jennifer was in the evening, after the Albany Odyssey and Starbucks run.

She panicked?

Why, Michi? Because you've watched too many terror shows? Why would the police cause you to panic? Run to the bathroom? You didn't think, oh no, has something happened to N?

Panic is a weird reaction to admit to.

She hides???? whatcha hidin' from, Michi?

Pretty telling.

Her embedded video response is at 4:30 in today's testimony.

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JMO

 

[carolmaria]

The body language made me physically uncomfortable. I need to watch it again, but she seems scared and, as you mentioned, defensive. I have so many questions that will never get answered, but if I blindly saw them with no context, I would be genuinely worried for the woman. She's trying to make herself smaller and nervously wringing her hands. He also asks for the first couple of bites of her sandwich and she pretty much feeds it to him which rubs me the wrong way on a lot of levels. I would honestly assume it was an abusive relationship of some sorts, which we now know that in some ways, it was. It was his pattern.

~snipped~
Yes to all. I remember seeing a photo of FD and JFd standing fairly close together, with him leaning way in (typical) and her crossing her arms and hunching slightly. JFd was smiling, though. It's too much for me to look at right now—but quite similar to the Starbucks couple's body postures.

 

[afitzy]

The body language made me physically uncomfortable. I need to watch it again, but she seems scared and, as you mentioned, defensive. I have so many questions that will never get answered, but if I blindly saw them with no context, I would be genuinely worried for the woman. She's trying to make herself smaller and nervously wringing her hands. He also asks for the first couple of bites of her sandwich and she pretty much feeds it to him which rubs me the wrong way on a lot of levels. I would honestly assume it was an abusive relationship of some sorts, which we now know that in some ways, it was. It was his pattern.

I've long wavered on the depth of MT's involvement... not whether or not she was involved, but how it came to be that way, how much she knew beforehand, how active she was beyond alibis and clean up, etc. FD is the kind of narc who chooses partners that he can manipulate and control. The victim doesn't recognize it as such in the moment, and I'm not entirely sure the narcissist always knows they're doing it, but it's a pattern of behavior. We see now that MT took a lot of what he said at face value, because he was persuasive and confident in his delivery. Of course he was; he's an evil narcissist, he can only ever be correct in his mind.

I'm not remotely trying to excuse or downplay MT's involvement; whether she was in on it before the crime, the morning of, or during clean up doesn't matter. She CHOSE to lie to investigators to protect FD. Repeatedly. Fear can be a strong persuasive tool, but FD can't hurt her anymore in this lifetime (more than he already has). At any point, she could've made the choice to come completely clean. She could've offered up any and everything she knew to try for a plea. Instead, now we get to see her day after day in different earth tones hiding behind her hair and cell phone.

Like I said though, FD chose partners he could manipulate and control. Once he could no longer do that to JFD, she became a "problem" for him to get rid of. He tried to persuade her to come back (as we are currently learning), and when it was clear that wouldn't work, he decided to end her life and ruin the lives of so many people in his orbit, including his own children.

So much in what you write in OP to unpack but I just want to put out there again that MT was asked multiple times by different officers if she were afraid of FD and each time she said no. The officers gave valid reasons imo as to why MT could very well be in danger from FD and I think most people hearing what MT was hearing would have asked for police protection, but she never did. Further, her mother in Spanish on the phone told her to not speak with LE, yet MT did it 3 times using various variants imo of the non alibi script. MT continued hooking up with FD even when the Courts said they weren't to see each other and she did this after reading the AAs and seeing some of the evidence!

I don't think MT was afraid and I'm saying that from the perspective of having seen any number of DV victims who were paralysed with fear and unable to act. MT wasn't paralysed by fear imo and she acted in a very deliberate way over the course of 3 interviews with LE. MT stayed on script for reasons that I don't think anyone can ever guess and certainly never know.

MT had every opportunity to come clean, even with her lies imo. MT had multiple decision point along the course of her relationship with FD to leave, yet she never did. For goodness sake, she had the States Atty in her interview and my guess is that had her responses been different she would have pled out or received some kind of deal. But, this never happened and Atty Colangelo walked away from MT and imo he was quite smart to have done so.

We learned in the LE interviews that one of MT biggest regrets in all that had happened was that she no longer had a house and needed to live in a hotel and rent a car and couldn't access her daughters ski's or their clothing. Someone is brutally murdered and MT who had been bailed out by her family and never spent much time in jail instead of thinking about the VICTIM instead was CONCERNED ABOUT STUFF. MT cared about material things and money and MT and that imo is pretty much it.

There was a gap until I believe the last interview in August. MT at that time imo had the perfect opportunity to say she had time to reflect and would tell the truth. This never happened. IMO it didn't happen because the truth was so horrific that speaking about it was impossible for her and so she stepped back and instead claimed no knowledge and total innocence. It will ultimately be in the hands of the jury to decide so we will just have to stay tuned.

On many levels IDK what to believe about MT. Frankly though as a human being I find her to be a person of little worth and certainly someone with no morals, ethics or any semblance of personal standards of conduct. I make this assessment based on the sum total of her conduct and life decisions over a longish period of time and what we learned in the interviews about how involved she and her mother were with the ongoing drama of the Dulos v Dulos case.

In this case the motives for FD were crystal clear but learning what we are slowly (very slowly) learning in this case both from the State and from MT herself, the MT motive to participate in the murder is imo quite clear as well.

MOO

 

[Jmoose]

I only caught this in re-listening.

Thr defendant claimed that the first she'd heard that something happened to Jennifer was in the evening, after the Albany Odyssey and Starbucks run.

She panicked?

Why, Michi? Because you've watched too many terror shows? Why would the police cause you to panic? Run to the bathroom? You didn't think, oh no, has something happened to N?

Panic is a weird reaction to admit to.

She hides???? whatcha hidin' from, Michi?

Pretty telling.

Her embedded video response is at 4:30 in today's testimony.

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JMO

There is only one kind of person who runs and hides when the police show up at their house-that is somebody who did something bad. Ok, maybe two kinds of people-the other one would be someone who has been abused by the police. So which one is she?

 

[Ruminations]

Question I had earlier in the car this morning... Defense would obviously know if KM taking the stand for the state is a possibility, but they aren't privy to what he would possibly say up there in advance, yes?

IANAL, but a surprise would be either thrown out, or delay the trial as both sides research the new information.

MOO

 

[Ruminations]

So much in what you write in OP to unpack but I just want to put out there again that MT was asked multiple times by different officers if she were afraid of FD and each time she said no. The officers gave valid reasons imo as to why MT could very well be in danger from FD and I think most people hearing what MT was hearing would have asked for police protection, but she never did. Further, her mother in Spanish on the phone told her to not speak with LE, yet MT did it 3 times using various variants imo of the non alibi script. MT continued hooking up with FD even when the Courts said they weren't to see each other and she did this after reading the AAs and seeing some of the evidence!

I don't think MT was afraid and I'm saying that from the perspective of having seen any number of DV victims who were paralysed with fear and unable to act. MT wasn't paralysed by fear imo and she acted in a very deliberate way over the course of 3 interviews with LE. MT stayed on script for reasons that I don't think anyone can ever guess and certainly never know.

MT had every opportunity to come clean, even with her lies imo. MT had multiple decision point along the course of her relationship with FD to leave, yet she never did. For goodness sake, she had the States Atty in her interview and my guess is that had her responses been different she would have pled out or received some kind of deal. But, this never happened and Atty Colangelo walked away from MT and imo he was quite smart to have done so.

We learned in the LE interviews that one of MT biggest regrets in all that had happened was that she no longer had a house and needed to live in a hotel and rent a car and couldn't access her daughters ski's or their clothing. Someone is brutally murdered and MT who had been bailed out by her family and never spent much time in jail instead of thinking about the VICTIM instead was CONCERNED ABOUT STUFF. MT cared about material things and money and MT and that imo is pretty much it.

There was a gap until I believe the last interview in August. MT at that time imo had the perfect opportunity to say she had time to reflect and would tell the truth. This never happened. IMO it didn't happen because the truth was so horrific that speaking about it was impossible for her and so she stepped back and instead claimed no knowledge and total innocence. It will ultimately be in the hands of the jury to decide so we will just have to stay tuned.

On many levels IDK what to believe about MT. Frankly though as a human being I find her to be a person of little worth and certainly someone with no morals, ethics or any semblance of personal standards of conduct. I make this assessment based on the sum total of her conduct and life decisions over a longish period of time and what we learned in the interviews about how involved she and her mother were with the ongoing drama of the Dulos v Dulos case.

In this case the motives for FD were crystal clear but learning what we are slowly (very slowly) learning in this case both from the State and from MT herself, the MT motive to participate in the murder is imo quite clear as well.

MOO

So, you think she is a lying liar who lies, EXCEPT when she answers the question, "Are you afraid of Fotis?"

I think she is a lying liar who lies, INCLUDING when she is asked if she is afraid of Fotis.

It is possible to be in an abusive relationship-as the abused person- and also be a co-conspirator with the abuser.

MOO

 

[Abcdefg13422]

It is not unusual for LE or States atty's or other govt agencies to view interviews either directly or indirectly. My guess is that couldn't be done in this setting as iirc it was Atty Bowmans office in Westport.

I understand perhaps why Colangelo was at that particular meeting. If someone is going to make an offer of plea or some kind of immunity agreement it seems to me that it makes sense to listen yourself and view the individual with your own eyes and ears. Sure you listen to the experienced voices around you but ultimately the decision is in your hands (and whatever hierarchy he works with in Hartford).

Trying to make a deal with MT would have been a big/huge/risky decision for the State at that time and I understand why someone charged with making that decision would want to be present and not fully rely on the opinions of others.

Also think about it maybe from Colangelo's perspective that MT to date in any of her interviews hadn't provided any substantive assistance to the State and had changed her stories on any number of issues more than a few times. I see a States Atty trying to make a strategic decision in a case with an individual who seems 'unreliable' at best and a 'liar' at worst. My sense is that his statement about her not knowing anything really meant that she was never going to share anything of value ever and would continue to stick to some variant of non alibi scripts until her dying day. This view played out and MT never did assist the case and Colangelo walked away.

I do wonder who of the many folks here who sat through the MT testimony in the 2 interviews that we have seen and would have been comfortable offering some kind of deal? MT never offered anything and never said anything of value and as someone said so well here the other day, "MT lied about the lies". My sense is Colangelo saw this and simply left that meeting and never thought again about MT and how she wasted so much time and taxpayer daughter with her many lies and lies about lies, but you notice that the hindering and tampering charges were never dropped and there was no change to the top charge of Conspiracy either.

MOO

I tend to agree, but I believe it’s highly unusual for the States Attorney to be present when questioning a potential suspect. I would think he has his phone on him and he’d be ready to make a deal if anything came up. Was it perhaps a scare tactic? I’m not sure if I was an attorney I’d allow my client to have all those people in the room questioning my client. My understanding Att Bowman deals with more civil cases, same thing with JS.

Who recommended either of these attorneys? Did they really say, let’s just pick a draw of a name and pick your defense attorney? The only thing I’ve gathered from some friends who have worked with him in the past is he’s not afraid of much.

Where is Hebert Santos when you need the GOAT.

 

[Southernsnooper]

I was just wondering about Bowman and why he no longer represents MT.

In my opinion, after watching the way Bowman kept stopping her from talking and at one time brought her out in the hallway, that he knew what she was about to say and that would be no bueno for MT. See what I did there?

Would he really have to do that if she was innocent and just telling the truth? No, he’d let her talk. That happened many times.

Remember at the beginning of the interview, he said she agreed to be honest. So why stop her??? He knew…..

I read that it is possible to waive the attorney-client privilege for a crime exception. Is that true and could they ask him to testify?

 

[Abcdefg13422]

I was just wondering about Bowman and why he no longer represents MT.

In my opinion, after watching the way Bowman kept stopping her from talking and at one time brought her out in the hallway, that he knew what she was about to say and that would be no bueno for MT. See what I did there?

Would he really have to do that if she was innocent and just telling the truth? No, he’d let her talk. That happened many times.

Remember at the beginning of the interview, he said she agreed to be honest. So why stop her??? He knew…..

I read that it is possible to waive the attorney-client privilege for a crime exception. Is that true and could they ask him to testify?

The exceptions to the lawyer-client privilege include planning an ongoing crime and imminent harm. It should not include anything from the past.

 

[Jmoose]

So, you think she is a lying liar who lies, EXCEPT when she answers the question, "Are you afraid of Fotis?"

I think she is a lying liar who lies, INCLUDING when she is asked if she is afraid of Fotis.

It is possible to be in an abusive relationship-as the abused person- and also be a co-conspirator with the abuser.

MOO

It is possible, for sure. But she described herself as “dominant”, and she went after him, and threw the phone, when she accidentally found out he had been at Jennifer’s house. Not something typucally done by somebody who is afraid of that person, but who knows? Sounds to me as if he was afraid of her, too, if he couldn’t tell her that he ended up having dinner at Jennifer’s.

 

[afitzy]

So, you think she is a lying liar who lies, EXCEPT when she answers the question, "Are you afraid of Fotis?"

I think she is a lying liar who lies, INCLUDING when she is asked if she is afraid of Fotis.

It is possible to be in an abusive relationship-as the abused person- and also be a co-conspirator with the abuser.

MOO

Guess we can agree to disagree on this.

Actually, to answer your question, Yes, I believe MT wouldn't know the truth if it tapped her on the shoulder and asked her if she wanted a million dollars. All effective and well practiced liars imo always throw in a bit of truth or quasi truth and in this case one of the pieces of truth for MT was imo that she was not afraid. No liar lies about everything and sometimes what they choose to lie about vs what they choose to tell the truth about can be somewhat puzzling to figure out, but eventually the truth emerges even if the involved liar can't speak about the underlying situation.

When you get a chance I'd suggest watching the LE Testimony on the issue of her not being afraid with no audio as imo in this case its quite helpful understanding a bit about MT and its what convinced me she wasn't afraid. There are very few segments in any of the interview imo where MT is clear but on the issue of not being afraid she answered clearly and with confidence and she actually looked directly at the officer speaking with confident body language imo (vs so much of the rest of the interview where she is looking all over the place or trying to connect with individual officers in a way I found distinctly odd).

FWIW I don't believe liars lie all the time just as MT doesn't lie all of the time (just most of the time imo), just when it facilities them achieving their goals. On the day of the LE raid of 4JX, MT could have run down the stairs from the bathroom where she was hiding and threw herself at the mercy of law enforcement that she was in fear for her life from FD. She didn't do this or anything similar to this in the 3 opportunity that she had. And, she is where she is.

On the later question about being in abusive relationship and also being a co conspirator, yes, this is possible and is sometimes seen in DV but I don't for a second believe that MT/FD relationship was abusive as zero in the LE Interview so far exists to support this premise and the relationship history and MT social media along with the support of her family for many years now in her relationship with FD gives zero evidence that I can see that there was any DV.

I've been posting about the close relationship between MT and Mama Troconis and the support the Troconis Crew provided to the FD/MT relationship going back to 2015ish. Do victims of DV share their plight with family? Not always but my sense is that MT hasn't been a reliable person over the course of her life and so her family is used to assessing the situation on their own and making their own decisions. Mama Troconis spent a good amount of time with FD and did spent time also visiting with the couple over the course of their multi year relationship. Given her training as a former mental health counsellor, I believe she had the training to assess FD and she provided her A+ stamp of approval.

The Troconis Crew imo aren't totally stupid and no doubt read the AAs and knew precisely what had been alleged regarding the murder of JF. But, even with the information in their possession at no point did the family choose to distance themselves from FD, they never expressed condolences to the Farber family and Dulos children and never made any statement about MT regretting in any way her relationship with FD or even condemned what he was long ago alleged to have done. Nope. the Troconis Crew has been all in supporting FD now for many years and they continue to do so today on social media which I personally find deplorable.


MOO

 

[Jmoose]

I tend to agree, but I believe it’s highly unusual for the States Attorney to be present when questioning a potential suspect. I would think he has his phone on him and he’d be ready to make a deal if anything came up. Was it perhaps a scare tactic? I’m not sure if I was an attorney I’d allow my client to have all those people in the room questioning my client. My understanding Att Bowman deals with more civil cases, same thing with JS.

Who recommended either of these attorneys? Did they really say, let’s just pick a draw of a name and pick your defense attorney? The only thing I’ve gathered from some friends who have worked with him in the past is he’s not afraid of much.

Where is Hebert Santos when you need the GOAT.

Andy Bowman IS a criminal defense attorney, but apparently is a dealmaker. MT needed a deal, if anyone does. And she will probably regret not allowing AB to make one.

 

[Cloudydiamond]

After today, MT, You should have kept Bowman..........

 

[afitzy]

Andy Bowman IS a criminal defense attorney, but apparently is a dealmaker. MT needed a deal, if anyone does. And she will probably regret not allowing AB to make one.

Amen. The extent of the relationship between Bowman and Colangelo imo was clear in the interview at Bowman office. Question I've been asking is who when offered a deal runs away from it, especially when the conspiracy charge was issued?

MT since that last interview has sat back on the claims of no knowledge and her innocence. Her choice of this response given what is known with more to come vs deal is curious imo to say the least.

MOO

 

[Abcdefg13422]

Andy Bowman IS a criminal defense attorney, but apparently is a dealmaker. MT needed a deal, if anyone does. And she will probably regret not allowing AB to make one.

From my understanding he is more white collar criminal cases, lots of civil cases, etc. that’s a far cry from representing murders or accessory to murder. IMO. However, I do believe Bowman was more skilled and has better tactics than JS. Also he was connected to the Fairfield County court system. A good attorney would tell you to hire someone who has better connections to the court district instead of trying to “Willy Nilly” see what I did there? I was paying attention today. LOL

 

[Southernsnooper]

So, you think she is a lying liar who lies, EXCEPT when she answers the question, "Are you afraid of Fotis?"

I think she is a lying liar who lies, INCLUDING when she is asked if she is afraid of Fotis.

It is possible to be in an abusive relationship-as the abused person- and also be a co-conspirator with the abuser.

MOO

Interesting how a mother of 5 was brutally murdered yet Michelle Troconis jokes about having sex in jail.

It just really makes you think..,,
Moo