Still Missing CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #61

[Cloudydiamond]

The alts were not separated from the actual jurors - so eight total - 4 W 4M . I estimate between 35-50 ish maybe 55 ish. It is near impossible to actually glean anything substantial from just a visual .
But - my sense was that they are all taking this very seriously and will follow the testimony , evidence and law to reach a verdict. If I were on trial and just saw them as my jury - I would be fine. If that makes sense.

I am hoping to get back there one more time before all is said and done.
Just my quick opinion

Thanks for answering. Sounds hopeful.

I flew to Ct this past weekend, but didn't have time to stop. I will be there again in March if it's still going on.

 

[citygirl]

Didn't the car wash also detail the truck - which includes vacuuming or they have not mentioned that yet ?
I was unable to watch/ listen to it all today.

//Also:
Just for those who wonder if JS is any less annoying in person vs video - IMO he is more annoying and thoroughly exhausting in person. I stopped into the court for a few hours this week whiile in CT on biz.

I was there for the testimony of the court appointed woman who supervised the Fotus visit with the kids the Wed night before Fotis murdered her that Friday. He had a nasty edge of superiority with that woman also while carrying out his cross examination. That was the testimony where he fixated on the salad. "Well there was SALAD, RIGHT ?"
"And this other signature on the report, that's from your supervisor because he is your SUPERVISOR, CORRECT? "
(paraphrasing)

The beauty of being in person is that you can see it all occurring at once - you can observe the Troconis family/ the jurors/ the witnessess/ Carrie Luft ( Jennifers Mom not there when I was)/ the lawyers /reporters, etc. You also run into some of them in the elevator or hallway or parking garage. Pretty illuminating.

At any rate the point of this post is that IMO JS' antics are not lost on anybody in that court except for JS himelf and maybe his co- counsel. It s like he thinks he is the main character in his very own reality show. If I were one of his kids I'd schedule an appointment to have him evaluated. He cannot read a room and antagonized all the woman witnessess IMO. It was like he was striving to diminish all three. ( I know I know - he is trying to uncover any type of screwup - but his method and demeanor are so not respectful) Kudos to all three for more then holding their own !

For the two women retirees who testified, if I were them I would ask for more money from the lab for testifying after that performace byJS. Both women did a great job but they needed helmets and combat pay IMO.

At one point I saw him turn around out of nowhere while he was looking thru papers and flash Mrs T a smile who was sitting behind the defense table ( pretty small courtroom) - she responded with a closed lip barely there smile - it was chilly.

Whenever JS says " Well just briefly your honor - so that the JURORS are clear..." You see the jurors chairs start rocking bc guess what, the jurors are very clear - I saw them and they don't look confused. They get it.

Its JS who doesn't get it

All just my opinion

Thank you so much for this. Descriptions of being in that courtroom have been seriously lacking, IMO. I've noticed that JS frequently turns to the gallery after breaks begin. Assumed he was looking for Mama T. Thinking she is a force to be reckoned with.Her father appears to be more of a gentle soul there to just lovingly support his daughter.
When you say all are getting it does this include the judge?

 

[citygirl]

If the white hard substance turns up to be belonging to JFD ( for example a tooth or any biological part) can that be considered her remains? The family could use that for burial?

Someone mentioned it looked like teeth and bone. That was my reaction, too, awful as it is. MOO.

 

[afitzy]

I've posted a bit about the Social Media disinformation (deliberately repeating information known to be false) undertaken by MT, Troconis Crew and "Esteemed Defence Counsel" and their supporters in the Media including the self proclaimed "Seeker of Truth" Shannon Miller of NBC CT.

I just wanted to put this post out to show a bit of what is going on. The post I wrote the other day likened the "Esteemed Defence Counsel" focus on the weather in Farmington on the eve of the JF murder as simply a game of "Three Card Monte", sleight of hand game to change your focus from where it should be. In this "game" he attempts to get focus on the weather and not on the fact that MT lied to LE 3x about her whereabouts and FDs whereabouts on the eve of the murder of VICTIM JF.

The focus on the weather is irrelevant and "Esteemed Defence Counsel" knows it and he also knows he cannot put MT on the stand as she will most likely simply lie again as she seems unable to speak the truth on any topic and he cannot put MT daughter on the stand or introduce either of their phone records because phone records cannot prove who physically made a call.

So, after a game of "Three Care Monte", "Esteemed Defence Counsel" proceeds to stoop even lower with the presentation to Court of a handwritten list of calls written by MT AND ASKS THE JURY TO BELIEVE that a handwritten unsubstantiated list with no corroborating evidence is to be believed? Yep, its what he did and to me it not only smacks of entitlement and arrogance and insulating to the intelligence of the jurors to spend time even entertaining the idea that the paper provided has any value great than that of TOILET PAPER in this case? He was even too lazy to attempt to obtain official records from the cell phone provider but as I said this data would prove nothing about who made the call.

Anyway, the above event played out in court and was followed by the following Social Media post from MT with yet more pictures of driveways 80MS. It was as if the ridiculousness of the display in court first with the wrong time of weather activity etc. had never happened but by the skeptical faces of the jurors who knew a CON MAN on the STREET CORNER trying to scam them with a good game of "Three Card Monte" never happened either.

i find the approach by "Esteemed Defence Counsel" patronising, insulting but ultimately foolish because the lack of preparation seems to be tainting virtually every aspect of the Defence "testimony cross" see this past week. But, ultimately the presentation is highly cynical as is the lack of knowledge about the mounds of evidence that it is his responsibility to know thoroughly along with very basic technical forensic terminology which was repeatedly butchered over the past two weeks.

Here is the social media post to which I referred to above and see what you think about this entire ridiculous line of rebuttal for MT being unable, unwilling etc. to say either where FD or she were on the eve of the murder of VICTIM, JF.

https://x.com/michelletrocon1/status/1753062257087389929?s=20

 

[afitzy]

Someone mentioned it looked like teeth and bone. That was my reaction, too, awful as it is. MOO.

Yes, that was me. Looked like jaw fragment and 4 teeth after a 2 second look. Didn't look at it thoroughly to try and identify which teeth or which jaw segment but I'm sure the ME will shed a VERY BRIGHT LIGHT on that particular piece of evidence as if it is what I think it is then it could be quite significant. MOO

PS. I'm sure that "Esteemed Defence Counsel" will no doubt treat the jury to another elaborate discussion of Hartford garbage cans or perhaps the MIRA plant process. Quite simply more never ending irrelevant "Testimony Cross" imo.
MOO

 

[Silverstorm]

The lady from the lab was so insulted with JS - Its a BARREL OF GARBAGE! It will probably be a while before she can laugh about it. She cracked me up, tho!

 

[afitzy]

The lady from the lab was so insulted with JS - Its a BARREL OF GARBAGE! It will probably be a while before she can laugh about it. She cracked me up, tho!

She got it right! Entire week for "Esteemed Defence Counsel" was summed up in that statement by the Expert Witness brilliantly imo!

It was a dumpster fire! MOO

 

[Megnut]

The bloody hard white object

My mind goes to a very macabre place.

1:45.30

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[Aquarian]

The bloody hard white object

My mind goes to a very macabre place.

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The top looks like a molar to me. What is connected to it in the bottom pic? Paper, tissue ? Can’t make it out.

 

[Cloudydiamond]

I've posted a bit about the Social Media disinformation (deliberately repeating information known to be false) undertaken by MT, Troconis Crew and "Esteemed Defence Counsel" and their supporters in the Media including the self proclaimed "Seeker of Truth" Shannon Miller of NBC CT.

I just wanted to put this post out to show a bit of what is going on. The post I wrote the other day likened the "Esteemed Defence Counsel" focus on the weather in Farmington on the eve of the JF murder as simply a game of "Three Card Monte", sleight of hand game to change your focus from where it should be. In this "game" he attempts to get focus on the weather and not on the fact that MT lied to LE 3x about her whereabouts and FDs whereabouts on the eve of the murder of VICTIM JF.

The focus on the weather is irrelevant and "Esteemed Defence Counsel" knows it and he also knows he cannot put MT on the stand as she will most likely simply lie again as she seems unable to speak the truth on any topic and he cannot put MT daughter on the stand or introduce either of their phone records because phone records cannot prove who physically made a call.

So, after a game of "Three Care Monte", "Esteemed Defence Counsel" proceeds to stoop even lower with the presentation to Court of a handwritten list of calls written by MT AND ASKS THE JURY TO BELIEVE that a handwritten unsubstantiated list with no corroborating evidence is to be believed? Yep, its what he did and to me it not only smacks of entitlement and arrogance and insulating to the intelligence of the jurors to spend time even entertaining the idea that the paper provided has any value great than that of TOILET PAPER in this case? He was even too lazy to attempt to obtain official records from the cell phone provider but as I said this data would prove nothing about who made the call.

Anyway, the above event played out in court and was followed by the following Social Media post from MT with yet more pictures of driveways 80MS. It was as if the ridiculousness of the display in court first with the wrong time of weather activity etc. had never happened but by the skeptical faces of the jurors who knew a CON MAN on the STREET CORNER trying to scam them with a good game of "Three Card Monte" never happened either.

i find the approach by "Esteemed Defence Counsel" patronising, insulting but ultimately foolish because the lack of preparation seems to be tainting virtually every aspect of the Defence "testimony cross" see this past week. But, ultimately the presentation is highly cynical as is the lack of knowledge about the mounds of evidence that it is his responsibility to know thoroughly along with very basic technical forensic terminology which was repeatedly butchered over the past two weeks.

Here is the social media post to which I referred to above and see what you think about this entire ridiculous line of rebuttal for MT being unable, unwilling etc. to say either where FD or she were on the eve of the murder of VICTIM, JF.

https://x.com/michelletrocon1/status/1753062257087389929?s=20

Oh, haven't been on X lately. This is hysterical LOL

 

[Megnut]

The top looks like a molar to me. What is connected to it in the bottom pic? Paper, tissue ? Can’t make it out.

I think it's the backside.

 

[Cloudydiamond]

Yes, that was me. Looked like jaw fragment and 4 teeth after a 2 second look. Didn't look at it thoroughly to try and identify which teeth or which jaw segment but I'm sure the ME will shed a VERY BRIGHT LIGHT on that particular piece of evidence as if it is what I think it is then it could be quite significant. MOO

PS. I'm sure that "Esteemed Defence Counsel" will no doubt treat the jury to another elaborate discussion of Hartford garbage cans or perhaps the MIRA plant process. Quite simply more never ending irrelevant "Testimony Cross" imo.
MOO

Did I hear yesterday, that this "hard" object was on the poncho?

 

[Megnut]

The top looks like a molar to me. What is connected to it in the bottom pic? Paper, tissue ? Can’t make it out.

Is anyone else seeing pearly enamel in the front view and exposed dentin (or pulp hollow) in the back view?

 

[sleuth66]

Yes, that was me. Looked like jaw fragment and 4 teeth after a 2 second look. Didn't look at it thoroughly to try and identify which teeth or which jaw segment but I'm sure the ME will shed a VERY BRIGHT LIGHT on that particular piece of evidence as if it is what I think it is then it could be quite significant. MOO

PS. I'm sure that "Esteemed Defence Counsel" will no doubt treat the jury to another elaborate discussion of Hartford garbage cans or perhaps the MIRA plant process. Quite simply more never ending irrelevant "Testimony Cross" imo.
MOO

The top looks like a molar to me. What is connected to it in the bottom pic? Paper, tissue ? Can’t make it out.

Yes, that was me. Looked like jaw fragment and 4 teeth after a 2 second look. Didn't look at it thoroughly to try and identify which teeth or which jaw segment but I'm sure the ME will shed a VERY BRIGHT LIGHT on that particular piece of evidence as if it is what I think it is then it could be quite significant. MOO

PS. I'm sure that "Esteemed Defence Counsel" will no doubt treat the jury to another elaborate discussion of Hartford garbage cans or perhaps the MIRA plant process. Quite simply more never ending irrelevant "Testimony Cross" imo.
MOO

Check the size scale- the entire object is slightly less than 6/16=3/8 inch. So the size of only a single tooth if that- certainly consistent with an "average" sized human tooth. Note there was also a hair later determined to be a blue fiber clinging to it (blue sweatshirt featured significantly in the case, JS had a blue hoodie in his possession for a long time).

 

[citygirl]

Is anyone else seeing pearly enamel in the front view and exposed dentin (or pulp hollow) in the back view?

The middle one I see roots of a tooth pretty clearly.

 

[waldojabba]

Thank you so much for this. Descriptions of being in that courtroom have been seriously lacking, IMO. I've noticed that JS frequently turns to the gallery after breaks begin. Assumed he was looking for Mama T. Thinking she is a force to be reckoned with.Her father appears to be more of a gentle soul there to just lovingly support his daughter.
When you say all are getting it does this include the judge?

yes - I would say the judge def has his number. I watched the judge quite a bit - his eyes take in everything without moving his head
including the gallery jurors lawyers etc -
Appears he has seen a lot
Also appears he is a very sharp but fair guy
jmo

 

[Southernsnooper]

If you rewatch the Starbucks video, when he puts his hands on the counter, they look bleached! So do hers. Under the comments on YouTube on this video someone said her sneakers match the footprint in the garage. I didn't know there was a footprint.

I rewatched the Starbucks video, her leg is shaking like crazy. Cold, maybe? Nervous, absolutely! Moo

 

[Ruminations]

If you rewatch the Starbucks video, when he puts his hands on the counter, they look bleached! So do hers. Under the comments on YouTube on this video someone said her sneakers match the footprint in the garage. I didn't know there was a footprint.

The Starbucks cashier hands look bleached, too. It's the lighting.

MOO

 

[Cloudydiamond]

The middle one I see roots of a tooth pretty clearly.

DBM. Dumb response

 

[citygirl]

JS showing the photo of the trash as it appeared on Albany -- bush league.

Can't help but think of all the trash that wasn't recovered. FD and his beigepiece purposefully dumped garbage in multiple bins, mixing it in with city garbage, to disguise it and then disappear it. To use that and turn it into some kind of defense for cross contamination is as low as JS's other low lows. Like twisting JFd's graciousness toward FD for her children's sakes to erase motive, ridiculous. Repugnant.

With the trash busibess, I saw where JS was going and he seized on this witness to do it. She was solid.

If those hairs come back to the defendant, how is JS going to try to spin that? FD and the defendant getting cozy against the Tacoma and her hairs landed on his smoooooth body and her fingerprints slid onto his hands?

Was really hoping we'd get to DNA evidence today.

Next week should be illuminating.

MOO

Good post. Imagine if all those cans had been collected. Am awaiting the review of those long , hot , humid days digging through the landfill. Sincerely hope for LE's sake that they at least found something. Was it 3 weeks? 6 weeks?