Dash Cam for Oct.4th a.m.

[In da Middle]

How do you know the sound has been edited?

The TV station didn't edit it. Are you saying the Kansas City police edited the video? Why would they do that?

Hey while we are questioning KCPD editing or not, why did they edit the ride to the house? It sure sounds edited. It goes from absolute complete silence to where you hear every little rustle.

 

[DeAnn]

Hey while we are questioning KCPD editing or not, why did they edit the ride to the house? It sure sounds edited. It goes from absolute complete silence to where you hear every little rustle.

I wondered the same thing. but then I read here last night (LOL) that they wouldn't have turned on the mic until a certain point triggered by lights and sirens or something like that.

I don't know if the officer was talking about things that didn't matter...didn't have the mic on or what.

You'd think the officer where there is no audio at all would have at least been typing on his computer or something like that or heard the dispatcher conversation for other non baby Lisa calls.

Short answer...no idea....can only guess....

 

[alwaysonmymind]

Hey while we are questioning KCPD editing or not, why did they edit the ride to the house? It sure sounds edited. It goes from absolute complete silence to where you hear every little rustle.

Could be the Explorer angle. Or could be a Regional Police Academy entrant officer. Just throwing this out there. :crazy:

This has interesting info about the Ride-Along Program. It covers the video/audio policy, remaining in the vehicle at the officers discretion etc.

http://www.kcpd.org/masterindex/files/pi/PI0508.pdf

 

[iamnotagolem]

in_da_middle,
Your mission, should you chose to accept it, is to join the ride along program and ride with one of the responding officers and just grill him the entire time. Get us some inside info, that would be great.

 

[In da Middle]

in_da_middle,
Your mission, should you chose to accept it, is to join the ride along program and ride with one of the responding officers and just grill him the entire time. Get us some inside info, that would be great.

You know, I have thought about it when my neighbors were talking about it. Then they started describing what some of them witnessed......Nope, I dont want to see that side of (non)humanity up close and personal. One time it was so bad of a situation, my friend got picked up to be escorted off scene! Things escalated fast!

 

[Lera213]

My guess is the cop saw something or thought he saw something, so he stopped...for all we know a neighbor was taking out the trash so the cop asked if he seen anything in the area. He leaves, shines his spot like on a dark area. If it was a burglary call then the cops actions going to the house makes sense. Even if it was a missing Child, it still makes since to shine his spot like and be looking as he goes. Or simply like someone said, he was on the phone talking to dispatch or detectives that are in route.

 

[Lera213]

no sound, perhaps the reason for editing is a lot of dispatching could be heard, names, addresses, other crimes, other information that the police need to be quiet about because of other pending cases or this case.

 

[Meri]

I've watched the video with the "sigh" at the end and I can't tell if it's male or female but I do believe the person is in the car. As for the 2 minute stop, it seems to me he's trying to find his way to the house and may be getting further information from dispatch or he may be on his computer, or both!
After he gets going again he shines his search light on the street sign on the lamp post.
I do wonder why the car coming from the other direction turned it's headlights off.

I don't think he turned his lights out completely - to me, it looked like he turned his brights off, then you could still see the regular lights on after that.

 

[In da Middle]

I wondered the same thing. but then I read here last night (LOL) that they wouldn't have turned on the mic until a certain point triggered by lights and sirens or something like that.

I don't know if the officer was talking about things that didn't matter...didn't have the mic on or what.

You'd think the officer where there is no audio at all would have at least been typing on his computer or something like that or heard the dispatcher conversation for other non baby Lisa calls.

Short answer...no idea....can only guess....

I wasn't very clear on what 'editing' I was talking about. I am talking about why did they totally stop the first tape where the officer was parked and took off? At first, I thought it was two different car's dashcams. If it was only 1, it means that he sure took a convoluted way to the house. It shows him on Parvin Rd a bit west of I-35/29 when it stops. Normally, anybody would just proceed east, straight on Parvin rd until they get to NE 38th St to turn into the neighborhood. When it starts on the second part, the car is coming down Chouteau NORTH of Parvin rd, then turning east on Parvin.

 

[ExpectingUnicorns]

I was hoping there might be a quick view of Deborah at the end of one of these videos. . . as I have always wondered if she was in night clothes, same clothes as seen in the Foods Festival wine dept or a completely different attire.

 

[MsFacetious]

He has found a busted front window and his 10-month-old daughter missing.

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The department refused to provide KCTV5 with any dashcam video showing the initial officers interaction with Bradley and Irwin.

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That officer's dashcam video ends at 4:11 a.m.
The video shows at least one person, apparently Irwin, waiting for the officers on the front stoop.

http://www.kctv5.com/story/16612025/dashcam-baby-lisa

 

[In da Middle]

He has found a busted front window and his 10-month-old daughter missing.

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The department refused to provide KCTV5 with any dashcam video showing the initial officers interaction with Bradley and Irwin.

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That officer's dashcam video ends at 4:11 a.m.
The video shows at least one person, apparently Irwin, waiting for the officers on the front stoop.

http://www.kctv5.com/story/16612025/dashcam-baby-lisa

Thanks!
I am still not understanding why LE thought they had to cut the tape on the officer's ride there. They show one car sitting in a parking lot and turning onto Parvin Rd, then it quits halfway there. And then what.......
By this, it confirms that the missing baby was very much called in as some think it wasn't at first. It seems that dispatch, for some reason, is focused on the missing screen. Maybe if we could hear the rest it would make sense, I guess. The important part is that LE took it seriously and rushed over. They did not just blow it off in the least.

 

[DeAnn]

Thanks!
I am still not understanding why LE thought they had to cut the tape on the officer's ride there. They show one car sitting in a parking lot and turning onto Parvin Rd, then it quits halfway there. And then what.......
By this, it confirms that the missing baby was very much called in as some think it wasn't at first. It seems that dispatch, for some reason, is focused on the missing screen. Maybe if we could hear the rest it would make sense, I guess. The important part is that LE took it seriously and rushed over. They did not just blow it off in the least.

I just realized I think not all of one of the videos is on the web. I'll double check on that tomorrow. I thought they both started around 3:58, 3:59 a.m. but one shows it online beginning at 4:05ish. If I'm right, I'll let you know and update.

Just realized speeds topped 70 mph in one and using lights/sirens in a residential area during the middle of the night shows the urgency.

The department was upfront that stuff that wasn't considered an "incident' report and covered more than the five items would be redacted. Obviously in those five minutes or so until arrival some conversation happened that they felt could be "redacted" under the Missouri Open-Records law.

I appreciate you and others sharing the route the officers took.

 

[Whisperer]

So Jeremy reported a ""Busted" front window. I thought the screen was pushed in a little. That doesn't even come close to a '"Busted" window. LE appeared to be focused on those words at the time.

Is Jeremy part of a cover-up?

 

[DeAnn]

Am I missing something? I thought the dispatcher said busted window once.

How is that showing a focus?

 

[Whisperer]

Why was this called in as a burglary in progress instead of an abducted child?

 

[Dewey2Me1MoThyme]

It was the dispatcher who worded it as a busted in window, not jeremy, not DT spin, just simple miscommunication.

 

[4Jacy]

It was the dispatcher who worded it as a busted in window, not jeremy, not DT spin, just simple miscommunication.

Really! How much training do these dispatchers have? Really!

 

[Whisperer]

He has found a "Busted" front window and his daughter missing. The order is interesting if that is how he called it in.

Misty Croslin said, "The back door is open and our daughter is missing"..
Ron Cummings did the same thing. "Our back door was wide open and my daughter's gone".

 

[Dewey2Me1MoThyme]

Really! How much training do these dispatchers have? Really!

I've had officers show up at 11pm at my home asking about reported property damage 3 days after the initial call, and had already been to the house on the night of the incident, so my guess is not much if any training.

At a neighbourhood group meeting with the police chief last summer we learned that dispatch is not controlled by the PD, but by an elected board who "appoints" whomever they want as dispatchers, usually friends and / or relatives. I'm not sure what the protocol is in KCMO jurisdiction.