DC - Former President Donald Trump indicted, 4 federal counts in 2020 election interference, 1 Aug 2023, Trial 4 Mar 2024 #2

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The button "Unwatch" should be a the top of this thread - all the way to the right...
Okay thanks I found it. For some reason I just didn't see it last night. There are so many comments here, it's kind of taking over my other threads in inbox.
 
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It looks as though Jack Smith might be getting ready to end the prosecutions. But, it also looks like Trump might still be sentenced on the hush money case.

It doesn't sound as though (from this ABC story) the cases will be brought back in four years.

 
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It looks as though Jack Smith might be getting ready to end the prosecutions. But, it also looks like Trump might still be sentenced on the hush money case.

It doesn't sound as though (from this ABC story) the cases will be brought back in four years.

The analogy that comes to mind is if a rape victim later marries the man who raped her and the man who raped her is the most powerful man in town - why bother continue prosecuting the case, even if, indeed, a serious crime was committed.

The question remains, why would she marry someone dangerous, but apparently, she did.

That's not a perfect analogy but it's one that comes to mind.

jmo
 
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The analogy that comes to mind is if a rape victim later marries the man who raped her and the man who raped her is the most powerful man in town - why bother continue prosecuting the case, even if, indeed, a serious crime was committed.

The question remains, why would she marry someone dangerous, but apparently, she did.

That's not a perfect analogy but it's one that comes to mind.

jmo
That is an interesting analogy and might fit in this case. There are also legal experts that made the claim there wouldn't have been a conviction in this case anyway -- or if there had been -- it would have been overturned by SCOTUS. I guess we'll never know now.
 
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That is an interesting analogy and might fit in this case. There are also legal experts that made the claim there wouldn't have been a conviction in this case anyway -- or if there had been -- it would have been overturned by SCOTUS. I guess we'll never know now.
I wish they would see the case through as far as possible, even if the next president uses his position to his own benefit and tosses it out, because I would like that action documented to his hand and kept for posterity to judge.

But, not my decision. And, it would be a waste of time, and energy.

jmo
 
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Awakening of the Posse Comitatus. Expect more sovreign citizens.
 
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I wish they would see the case through as far as possible, even if the next president uses his position to his own benefit and tosses it out, because I would like that action documented to his hand and kept for posterity to judge.

But, not my decision. And, it would be a waste of time, and energy.

jmo
I listened to a lot of post-election commentary yesterday, and more than once, I heard the possibility of Biden pardoning Trump before he takes office. Some suggested that Trump would likely then pardon Hunter Biden.

That's all speculation, but there is the precedent of Gerald Ford pardoning Nixon, so I suppose it could happen.
 
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Now, here's a question -- had these indictments led to actual convictions, would those convictions have barred Trump from taking office?

According to the Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3, it might have been a possibility.
 
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Now, here's a question -- had these indictments led to actual convictions, would those convictions have barred Trump from taking office?

According to the Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3, it might have been a possibility.

There were attempts to use the 14th Amendment, section 3, and they didn't work, and now it's too late.
 
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Now, here's a question -- had these indictments led to actual convictions, would those convictions have barred Trump from taking office?

According to the Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3, it might have been a possibility.

I don't think it would have barred him. Sad state of affairs when a felon can be the president but people can't work at McDonald's because they check the "I have been convicted of a felony" box. MOO.
 
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I don't think it would have barred him. Sad state of affairs when a felon can be the president but people can't work at McDonald's because they check the "I have been convicted of a felony" box. MOO.

Life is different for rich people.

MOO.
 
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I wonder why he thinks Jack Smith may purge all those records? Is that something that commonly happens when cases are vacated?
Purging records might be something one would do if they were under investigation by the Judiciary oversight committee. That’s my guess since we don’t hear the other side of the aisle asking for preservation of records afaik. They should want the records preserved as well. imo
 
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I wonder why he thinks Jack Smith may purge all those records? Is that something that commonly happens when cases are vacated?
I think he's planting the idea that Jack Smith wouldn't follow procedures unless called out publicly. It's absurd to think that, but whatever.

jmo
 
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