DCA - American Airlines passenger plane collides with Blackhawk over the Potomac River, all 67 on both dead, 29 Jan 2025

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steeltowngirl said:
Thank you for sharing the video of Angela and Sean dancing. It is beautiful to watch. I don’t know how old are, but they look very young and incredibly talented. Amidst the sadness of their tragic deaths, it felt comforting to take a moment to learn a bit about them and their incredible skating abilities.
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It appears the names i listed were provided by an ice skating website.

Ive been able to find mention of Inna, Genia, Vadim, Jinna, Jinna's mom, Spencer, and spencers mom, being on the plane.

As of right now im hoping the rest are safe.

if i see any mention of Angela, Sean, or the other 4 i will definitely post it tho.

sorry for the confusion yall
 

American figure skater: The Russians are wrong, I'm alive​

By Nic White
Anton Spiridonov was listed on Russian news sites and social media as being among those in the doomed plane, but he is very much alive.
'Russian news outlets have included me on a list of presumed people on the flight from Wichita to Washington DC,' he wrote on Instagram in both Russian and English.
'I was not on this flight, thank you for everyone's concern for my safety. My heart goes out to all the families affected by this tragedy.'
 
Joe Friday said:
<modsnip: Removed due to opinion stated as fact. At this time there is no known fact to support such an accusation>

The tower controller asked the American Airlines plane if they could take Rwy 33 which put the plane further east and at a lower altitude over the river on it's approach to that runway. The controller should have known the helicopter was flying along the river and this would potentially place the helicopter and the airliner in a direct collision course, since the American plane would be at a lower altitude on final as it crossed the river on approach for Rwy 33. Had the American Airlines plane landed on Rwy 1, as all the other planes were doing, it would have been at a higher altitude when crossing the river further to the south of the airports and would have flown over top the the helicopter.

I think the reason the controller asked if they could take Rwy 33 was to give more separation to the landing planes already on final approach to Rwy 1. By having the American plane turn to the east and land on Rwy 33 essentially took one plane out of the sequence of planes landing on Rwy 1, giving more separation to those planes landing on Rwy 1. This is a common practice by ATC, but in this case was a fatal mistake.

JMO
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I will wait for the official determination.

As often happens with disasters, it's really the holes in the Swiss Cheese lining up.
 
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"Sources said seven Charles County men, mostly in their mid-30s, were aboard the plane returning home from a hunting trip in Kansas. That had not been confirmed by officials as of late Thursday morning, however.

Kelly Johnson, a Calvert County resident who is a journeywoman for the Local 602, said that some of the people on board were members of the union returning from a hunting trip.

In an interview Thursday morning, she said: "Many members of Local 602 cross over the Potomac River on their way into work during the early mornings. … Being the local union, hunting, fishing, that's what we do. They went for a fun trip, and it ended in devastation."


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Charles residents were aboard plane that crashed into Potomac - NewsBreak

Several men from Charles County were reported to be on the plane that crashed into the Potomac River on its way to Reagan National from Kansas Wednesday n
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'FAA chief had stepped down after pressure from Musk, leaving vacancy during deadly crash'​

From CNN's Alexandra Skores
Mike Whitaker testifies at a Senate hearing in Washington, DC in June 2024.

Mike Whitaker testifies at a Senate hearing in Washington, DC in June 2024.
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Mike Whitaker, who headed up the Federal Aviation Administration during the Biden administration, stepped down ahead of the new administration and the position has yet to be filled, leaving the aviation agency without a key leader during one of the deadliest aviation crashes in American history.

In December, Whitaker wrote to FAA workers he would end his five-year term on the day of the inauguration, well before the end of the term. Whitaker became administrator in October 2023.

He had notably clashed with SpaceX CEO and leader of the Department of Government Efficiency Elon Musk over the agency’s oversight of rocket launches. Deputy administrator Katie Thomson left January 10, as well, a second key vacancy. Musk called on Whitaker to resign in September, after Whitaker had testified before Congress and faced tough questions about the agency’s oversight of SpaceX.

According to the FAA website, alongside the roles of administrator and deputy administrator, the agency does not have an associate administrator of airports, an associate administrator for security and hazardous materials safety, chief counsel, assistant administrator of communications, assistant administrator of government and industry affairs and assistant administrator for policy, international affairs and environment as the new administration ramps up its leadership.

President Donald Trump also fired Transportation Security Administration chief David Pekoske on Inauguration Day. The agency still has not filled Pekoske’s role or the deputy administrator role.

The Department of Transportation only a couple days ago confirmed Sean Duffy to lead the agency that oversees the FAA. Duffy has been providing updates from the department and on the scene at Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport.'

 

"Army says ​

Black Hawk crew in DC plane crash was​

'fairly experienced' ​

as next of kin notifications begin.​


The Pentagon
has begun notifying the next of kin of the three soldiers
who were on a training flight
whey they hit the American Airlines plane on its final approach to Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport.

A temporary morgue has been set up in the capital to house the bodies
as divers continue their search.

The Black Hawk helicopter cut through the airspace from the opposite direction under cover of darkness,
with both aircraft seemingly unaware of the other's presence.

They slammed into one another just 400ft above ground,
erupting in a violent explosion before plunging into the freezing Potomac River below.

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth said
the flight was an annual proficiency training mission.

Every year,
pilots and crew are required to do night evaluations."

www.dailymail.co.uk

Army releases first details of Black Hawk crew in plane crash

The Pentagon has begun notifiying next of kin of the three soldiers who were on board when it crashed into an American Airlines flight.
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RANCH said:

Here's another video by VASAviation that has the radio transmissions made by the Army helicopter PAT25.

They tell ATC two times that they have a visual on the CRJ.
JMO.
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This is the kind of job I could never do, not in a million years.

You need nerves of steel and high spatial awareness to juggle all these aircraft at once. Neither of which I possess.

I think it was in 1980? that Reagan fired all the ATC and my then-husband wanted to apply to become an air-traffic controller. He had the right sort of temperament for that but ultimately did not apply.

As yet I don’t believe fault has been definitively assigned, although I’m sure the picture is becoming clear to those who investigate such things. I know the American Airlines CEO is blaming the helicopter pilot.

What is critical right now is to support the families as the investigation proceeds.

IMO
 
steeltowngirl said:
Thank you for sharing the video of Angela and Sean dancing. It is beautiful to watch. I don’t know how old are, but they look very young and incredibly talented. Amidst the sadness of their tragic deaths, it felt comforting to take a moment to learn a bit about them and their incredible skating abilities.
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I believe I read they were both 10—currently looking for the source where I found that info stated. In figure skating’s juvenile category the boys can be 13 or younger, girls can be 12 or younger.
 
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