Defending Misty on Jan 10, 2011 in Putnam County

[kant]

Oh Kant, I know I saw something on video of the court appearance but not certain about the actual wording. I'll admit I've commented in response to other posts about the agent naming Misty as the "Kingpin". IMO, without going back to research, he may have said ringleader, which to me is the same thing only in simple terms. I'll look and see if I can find the actuall video.

No problem. I guess I'm wondering what this Agent Smith said or on what he based his description of Misty as "kingpin" or ringleader or mastermind - which to me are all different words for the same thing.... and I reject them all.

moo

 

[viedow]

There is a video in this article by First Coast News. Misty is on the stand and Judge Berger tells Misty she is a drug dealer.

<snipped>

Croslin took the stand in her own defense, saying that she started selling drugs because she grew up poor. "It is wrong to drug deal, but when you grow up poor, that is what you do," she said on the stand during defense questioning.

She agreed that for the first time in her life, she is in control.

She also was questioned by Judge Wendy Berger who asked her why she should be treated differently than her codefendants.

Croslin was arrested earlier this year, along with her ex-husband and Haleigh's father Ronald Cummings. Croslin's brother Hank was also arrested for drug trafficking. Both got 15 years in prison.

"I wouldn't be here if (the FBI) didn't come at me... I'm not a drug dealer," Croslin responded.

Berger disagreed. In sentencing, she was unmoved by earlier harrowing descriptions of Croslin's upbringing. "You may not have a lot of book smarts, but you have a lot of street smarts," she said. "You are here because you sold drugs."

"You are a young lady who has committed bad choices," she said.

"You say you're not a drug deal and I countered with you that you are. You deal with a whole heck of a lot of drugs," said Berger.

Croslin's defense had also asked to be sentenced as a youthful offender. "I'm so young, I have a lot of life ahead of me...."

"But you like the money?" said Berger. "Yes," Croslin responded.

Berger said she considered the youthful offender option. "(I) realized there is a hefty minimum mandatory, but the problem with youthful offender (sentencing) is the six years."

The state argued with Croslin about her involvement in the drug deals; she has persisted that she was not the leader and that the drug contacts were the groups', not hers alone.

She persisted that she was not into pills. "I'm into marijuana; I don't sell it, I smoke it."

The first witness was Florida Department of Law Enforcement investigator Travis Smith, who said Croslin told undercover agents that she had four sources for drugs. At one point, she promised to buy 50 percoset, Smith said, adding that she did all the calling and transactions with the FBI.

Smith said Croslin had a large network, 200 pills potentially. "That is a large amount of hydrocodone," he said.

"Why do you feel she is not innocent and she is a drug dealer?" her attorney asked.

"She had multiple sources," Smith replied. "She had the knowledge...the prices were dead on with the market rate."http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video...The+Cure/50619441001/50624658001/646311395001

No kidding she has been going down the street buying for her mother since she was 3. How could she not know the going rate for pills like the back of her hand. Look my mom teaches public school and if you want to teach math, you can teach them via the cost of drugs and alcohol not by the pretty flash cards and matching workbooks many of the others had. She was taught early on she needed to keep her Mom alive to keep out of foster care and knew the only way to do that was to keep Mommy and Daddy happy and normal with drugs. I know since 3 she knew how to buy and sell drugs. Sell something they did not want to get the opiates they did want. IMO of course. The only thing MC knows how to do for sure is survival and that was really hard. My point is I would have taken this to trial for sure as an attorney and questioned the fact that she was the ringleader of the dealing. You see she has been used all her life! There is nothing new in her role in the HaLeigh case either. They are using her to get to the truth and RC used her. There is not anyone that did not use her. It made me want to run down to Florida every time I saw the Croslins on the Jailtape and they kept saying I love you over and over. Really???? Misty has the mind of a 10 year old. She has the streetsmarts of a 50 year old that grew up homeless in NYC.

Misty has never been loved. Please do not take this as I forgive any acts that she did to HaLeigh. However, her idea of right and wrong are much different than reality.

The jury is still out with me if you could help Misty. However, HaLeigh could have had a chance with the right love.

You see with the trial - you could bring in all past girlfriends of RC and discuss the Drug Dealing and how it all went down. How some were made into addicts and some did things so unbearable to think about that they just feel like worthless crud. IMO... I realize that it has been up for controversy if RC had dealt drugs prior to HaLeigh. However, I don't see how anyone can miss this. Was he continue to be protected bc of some family in - probably. This is how things work in these small southern towns - probably a lot of towns. RC probably ratted out a lot too.

My point in this Drug Trial you could have made the jury see that this little girl saw a better life than survival for herself and maybe some normalcy. Yes the video shows her happy because she was. People were happy with her. Her role was important. People depended on her. RC was happy with her. You can clearly show this in the videos and I bet this is in the hours and hours of video too.

I am pretty "you do the crime you do the time" but I would definitely not have been able to convict MC to 25 years. I would have definitely put her in rehab and than the Physch Ward to unravel all of the deamons. Her answers were all wrong when she talked to the judge. She might have said "your honor i am 18 years old with a 6th grade education and have been surrounded by these drugs all of my life. They have caused much heartache and much chaos in my family and in my life. I have been so jaded that in my mind this felt so temporary and than I was going to have a normal life, house, family, mommy daddy , dishwasher, and bedrooms. I dream about this everyday. I guess you can say I really am not a quick learner but I can look at you today and want help. I just want help and direction from some adult that will just show me the right road... and I want to go down that road and stay on it. That is what I know your honor.

What adult has ever led MC down the right road for MC? Ever?

 

[krkrjx]

What makes it obvious to me that Misty was not the ringleader/kingpin, or even a mid- to high-level dealer, is that she had no information to offer the SA about suppliers/providers that could effectively have reduced her charges. And...I speculate that Ron may have offered such information and that helped get two of his charges dropped.

I have done some more snooping into Florida minimum mandatory laws and found some very interesting reading. This is a PDF file but it is easy to scroll down to what you want to read about. Of particular interest, IMO, is around Page 7 where it speaks of statistics that show the lower level the accused trafficker, the higher their sentence.

Very interesting, IMO, that Misty is viewed as the "leader" of the "trafficking ring."

If Misty were truly involved in trafficking at such a level (kingpin, ringleader, etc.,), statistics show that she would likely have been offered a deal in exchange for naming names, etc., of higher-ups. The stats show that a vast majority of inmates serving a minimum mandatory of 25 years in Florida are low-level people while the high-level traffickers are getting off with less time; the higher level traffickers are the ones with info to make a deal to reduce their charges.

If Misty is the leader of this ring, where is her deal for reduced charges?

http://www.flsenate.gov/Publications/2010/Senate/reports/interim_reports/pdf/2010-109cj.pdf

 

[Lanie]

IMO, these people are far, far from being some kind of Satsuma Drug Cartel, in fact, they are very small-time, and until the UC came along, they probably didn't do more than trade a few pills back and forth.

I don't find it laugh provoking at all to think Misty was the leader in this little misadventure in drug dealing. The UC asked for specific amounts to make the perps eligible for specific sentencing, but IMO, in the real world, this amount would not come close to qualifying as a major sale.

Around here, and I don't believe for a second where I live is unique, a 'major drug bust' includes not only the drugs being dealt, but large amounts of other drugs are confiscated, along with large amounts of cash. Generally there is a raid. Generally, it is usually a 6 to 12 month operation. If that took place in this situation, I have yet to hear about it.

IMO, this bust was nothing more than some people scrounging up whatever they could to make a few extra bucks and score a few extra pills, no stockpiles, no major cash investment, and no consummate professional drug dealers involved. Taking that in account, I have no problem finding it plausible Misty was the head of the group.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

BBMs by me.

I have to comment here, because, IMO, age means everything. Actually, not just IMO. It's the law. Developmentally, cognitively, educationally, legally, morally, consensually, practically, proprietarally, ethically. And in Misty's society (this day and age, her residence, state, this country) the age of majority is 18. At 21 we can vote on the law, but at 18 we will be held to it.

http://minors.uslegal.com/age-of-majority/florida-age-of-majority-law/

http://minors.uslegal.com/age-of-majority/

Finally, I'll not buy that Misty is some sort of drug Kingpin :Crown: :rolling: (always sets me a giggling - that leap regarding Misty's drug world royalty) that unless and until we can read a complete transcript of the testimony of the Agent at Misty's sentencing hearing, (maybe we do have it here somewhere and I missed it - that's entirely possible - and if so slap me for slackin' and point me where to look at it please ), we are relying on media quotes and sound bites that are not contextual and not cross-examined.

Logic tells me that Misty was, in all likelihood, a naughty little minx, neglected, abused, unloved, damaged, learning-disabled, undereducated, emotionally immature and somehow hopelessly in love with her ex-husband drug boy Ron (her own words, his own words), and they were both just caught doing what they do best, and what the agents knew they were doing all along.

The Special Agents waited until Misty was 18 so they could toss them all in the slammer and play Haleigh chess with their drug charges ... if nothing else could be done to get to the truth of Haleigh ... this was a meticulously planned LS sting as one last resort way to get the job done.

Anyway you slice it, the time Misty is serving is about Haleigh, IMO. And she spoke the truth when she said if it weren't for what happened to Haleigh, she'd still be out minxing around PC like so many of her fine fast friends (NayNay, Amber)...


(which reminds me, how lucky Nay must feel to have escaped drug sting car rides when she spent time with Misty ...) and (gee...do ya think...NayNay blew in Misty & Tommy & Ron (re drugs) at some point last summer?):waitasec:

While I do understand your stance EP and respect it.....I disagree.... the age of majority means nothing in the criminal justice system. 18 isn't some magic number. It may be the magic number where they can first vote or join the military etc. but drug trafficking isn't an entitled right in America no matter the age of the defendant. Even at 16 Misty could have easily been tried as an adult if it went to trial and most definitely at 17.

I think if the media had misquoted Agent Smith's testimony about Misty's involvement it would have been corrected by now. With Misty having more charges than anyone else it wasn't surprising to me she was up to her neck in the trafficking.

Since I know nothing about the police waiting until Misty turned 18, I will not comment on that, but I will say this. I have seen those who were 16-17 who were arrested for selling/buying drugs that were tried as an adult. So I don't know why they would have waited.

I have watched Misty's interviews and stress test video many times. Uneducated? Yes. Learning disable? IMO, no. She seemed to have no problem getting her thoughts across and was coherent in her answers, imo.



imo

 

[bessie]

I tend to think that if Misty was the "main dealer" it's because she was the one who the undercover approached.

I think so, too. It's as simple as that. And I think the UC cajoled the little "minx" (thank you, Emma) into playing along. Sadly for Misty, she was a willing subject who enjoyed the attention and feeling of importance, so much that she set out to prove just what a good little drug dealer she could be. She enlisted her brother and her friends, and in turn their friends and contacts, with the intentions of building her own little network to serve and supply the UC, who she believed to be a big shot dealer. And she was quite enterprising, too. Look at how many individuals she drew into the circle in just a month. That's why I scoff when my fellow members here insist that Ron led her astray. Nonsense. The UC laid the bait, sweetened it with a little flattery, and Misty ran with it, proudly and of her own free will.

Now just imagine if someone with the same level of dedication had used positive reinforcement to steer Misty toward good endeavors. Would she have worked as hard and as willingly to succeed? Would the goal have been as attractive? I can't say for sure, but at this stage of Misty's life, I doubt it.

Yet, she's only eighteen, and even behind bars there is hope. But will prison enable her to develop enough self esteem to desire and demand a better life for herself? Can that happen? I know it's possible, but what a long shot. :tsktsk:

 

[oceanblueeyes]

What makes it obvious to me that Misty was not the ringleader/kingpin, or even a mid- to high-level dealer, is that she had no information to offer the SA about suppliers/providers that could effectively have reduced her charges. And...I speculate that Ron may have offered such information and that helped get two of his charges dropped.

I have done some more snooping into Florida minimum mandatory laws and found some very interesting reading. This is a PDF file but it is easy to scroll down to what you want to read about. Of particular interest, IMO, is around Page 7 where it speaks of statistics that show the lower level the accused trafficker, the higher their sentence.

Very interesting, IMO, that Misty is viewed as the "leader" of the "trafficking ring."

If Misty were truly involved in trafficking at such a level (kingpin, ringleader, etc.,), statistics show that she would likely have been offered a deal in exchange for naming names, etc., of higher-ups. The stats show that a vast majority of inmates serving a minimum mandatory of 25 years in Florida are low-level people while the high-level traffickers are getting off with less time; the higher level traffickers are the ones with info to make a deal to reduce their charges.

If Misty is the leader of this ring, where is her deal for reduced charges?
http://www.flsenate.gov/Publications/2010/Senate/reports/interim_reports/pdf/2010-109cj.pdf

BBM

Agent Smith answered that question when he testified.

FDLE Agent Travis Smith had portrayed Croslin as the "bigger fish" who doesn't get offered a deal by the state.

"She's been moving an enormous amount of prescription pills in our community," said Smith. "Misty Croslin initiated all the drug transactions."

 

[bessie]

What makes it obvious to me that Misty was not the ringleader/kingpin, or even a mid- to high-level dealer, is that she had no information to offer the SA about suppliers/providers that could effectively have reduced her charges. And...I speculate that Ron may have offered such information and that helped get two of his charges dropped.

I have done some more snooping into Florida minimum mandatory laws and found some very interesting reading. This is a PDF file but it is easy to scroll down to what you want to read about. Of particular interest, IMO, is around Page 7 where it speaks of statistics that show the lower level the accused trafficker, the higher their sentence.

Very interesting, IMO, that Misty is viewed as the "leader" of the "trafficking ring."

If Misty were truly involved in trafficking at such a level (kingpin, ringleader, etc.,), statistics show that she would likely have been offered a deal in exchange for naming names, etc., of higher-ups. The stats show that a vast majority of inmates serving a minimum mandatory of 25 years in Florida are low-level people while the high-level traffickers are getting off with less time; the higher level traffickers are the ones with info to make a deal to reduce their charges.

If Misty is the leader of this ring, where is her deal for reduced charges?

http://www.flsenate.gov/Publications/2010/Senate/reports/interim_reports/pdf/2010-109cj.pdf

Yep. It's counterintuitive and one of the chief arguments against mandatory minimum sentencing for drug trafficking. I'm comfortable calling Misty the ringleader, though. She just didn't have much of a ring.

 

[Emma Peel]

While I do understand your stance EP and respect it.....I disagree.... the age of majority means nothing in the criminal justice system. 18 isn't some magic number. It may be the magic number where they can first vote or join the military etc. but drug trafficking isn't an entitled right in America no matter the age of the defendant. Even at 16 Misty could have easily been tried as an adult if it went to trial and most definitely at 17.

I think if the media had misquoted Agent Smith's testimony about Misty's involvement it would have been corrected by now. With Misty having more charges than anyone else it wasn't surprising to me she was up to her neck in the trafficking.

Since I know nothing about the police waiting until Misty turned 18, I will not comment on that, but I will say this. I have seen those who were 16-17 who were arrested for selling/buying drugs that were tried as an adult. So I don't know why they would have waited.

I have watched Misty's interviews and stress test video many times. Uneducated? Yes. Learning disable? IMO, no. She seemed to have no problem getting her thoughts across and was coherent in her answers, imo.



imo

Thanks OBE.

Of course I agree no one has a right to sell drugs. I didn't say youths have the right to break the law. Who would say that?

But, the point is that youthful offender status would be considered & is typically permitted when the offender has not reached age of majority and it's a first offense and it's not a crime of violence and there is no previous record (as in Misty's situation). The fact is that a youthful offender COULD be tried as an adult, but is not mandated they be tried as an adult. Had they arrested Misty one month prior, while she was still eligible for youthful offender status they'd have risked their strategy - the threat of these players facing significantly long minimum mandatories was necessary if LE hoped to strong-arm confessions out of this gang. And Misty would have been a very typical candidate for eligible for youthful offender status.

I should probably explain why I feel strongly about this strategy of LE's and the fact that LE was after Misty, Tommy and Ron, and they waited specifically for Misty to be 18.

Like quite a few here, I've been a faithful follower of threads in the basement on the scanner (nee Haleigh basement thread) from the inception of that thread (spring, 2009) - it was a rumor thread at first - through the present day. (okay, that was hard to see in writing - oh my gosh! hew: how long we've been holding firm here waiting on our Haleigh's justice @ WS ) We celebrated Misty's 18th birthday and we knew exactly where she spent it because we were able to follow LE on the scanner as they followed this gang's every move for a year. EVERY MOVE! I think we pretty much knew (with a few weeks exception) where Ron and Misty, Tommy and Nay Nay and any other Misty acquaintance/party-friend/lover was every week just by the scanner and jail log activity. And it was clear to us in the last few months of Misty's 18th year that she'd be arrested for SOMETHING as soon as she turned 18. And guess what? She was. And the super scannettes here on Haleigh's scanner thread actually heard & recorded the reports of the sales she made as they went down on the scanner with LE eavesdropping the UC's locations. Of course we wondered, but we couldn't confirm it was the undercover working with Misty at the Kangaroo that LE was stalking (for example), until we did our rewinds - after the fact.

Anyway, that's why it's my very strong opinion that LE was quite careful to make sure Misty would not qualify for Youthful Offender status and waited for her to reach the age of majority before making their move.

And yes, I should have said it's just IMO that Misty's has some kind of learning disability that made school difficult for her. She can't read close to the level she left school at (approx 6th grade, IIRC). Neither can her father Hank. Yet, she was in school through 6th grade at least. Reading happens by then unless you have some sort of learning difficulties. That doesn't mean I think she's not street smart and reasonably intelligent, and perhaps she will be able to learn to read in a prison program. But IMO, she has some sort of learning disability or a learning difference of some kind. It clearly wasn't properly addressed in whatever school experience she had. And her folks were aware of it. I have wondered if because Hank Sr. has found it so difficult to learn to read (and readily just admits he can't read), Misty's parents just accepted that she was like her daddy that way and didn't advocate at school on her behalf...but ... I digress.

 

[Dr. Know?]

Very good post Emma. Thanks, will read it again.

 

[krkrjx]

People lie. Everyone has stretched the truth to one degree or another. Some have even done so under oath. Some people lie habitually; others do it rarely or only when it serves them, but I have never met a person who has not at some time or other at least stretched the truth a bit.

There are lies by omission, by sugar-coating, by exaggerating an event in the retelling, and by deliberate deception. Lies come in varying forms and levels and just about anyone can find one to suit them, if need be.

I have lived long enough that I no longer have to keep reminding myself that just because someone is a doctor, a priest, nun, judge, attorney, or LE, it is best to not assume that because they said something, it must be true.

 

[suspicious1]

So Misty's the "Kingpin", eh? I still can't get past my post on the first page of this thread:

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Defending Misty on Jan 10, 2011 in Putnam County

Papa...I don't know how I missed this post made by you...but that pretty much sums it up for me....enough said. thank you for that post...

 

[suspicious1]

Very good post, Emma (post #129)

I totally agree with what you have stated...oh, and I agree with you about the scanner peeps in the basement...They are awesome...:woohoo:

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Thanks OBE.

Of course I agree no one has a right to sell drugs. I didn't say youths have the right to break the law. Who would say that?

But, the point is that youthful offender status would be considered & is typically permitted when the offender has not reached age of majority and it's a first offense and it's not a crime of violence and there is no previous record (as in Misty's situation). The fact is that a youthful offender COULD be tried as an adult, but is not mandated they be tried as an adult. Had they arrested Misty one month prior, while she was still eligible for youthful offender status they'd have risked their strategy - the threat of these players facing significantly long minimum mandatories was necessary if LE hoped to strong-arm confessions out of this gang. And Misty would have been a very typical candidate for eligible for youthful offender status.

I should probably explain why I feel strongly about this strategy of LE's and the fact that LE was after Misty, Tommy and Ron, and they waited specifically for Misty to be 18.

Like quite a few here, I've been a faithful follower of threads in the basement on the scanner (nee Haleigh basement thread) from the inception of that thread (spring, 2009) - it was a rumor thread at first - through the present day. (okay, that was hard to see in writing - oh my gosh! hew: how long we've been holding firm here waiting on our Haleigh's justice @ WS ) We celebrated Misty's 18th birthday and we knew exactly where she spent it because we were able to follow LE on the scanner as they followed this gang's every move for a year. EVERY MOVE! I think we pretty much knew (with a few weeks exception) where Ron and Misty, Tommy and Nay Nay and any other Misty acquaintance/party-friend/lover was every week just by the scanner and jail log activity. And it was clear to us in the last few months of Misty's 18th year that she'd be arrested for SOMETHING as soon as she turned 18. And guess what? She was. And the super scannettes here on Haleigh's scanner thread actually heard & recorded the reports of the sales she made as they went down on the scanner with LE eavesdropping the UC's locations. Of course we wondered, but we couldn't confirm it was the undercover working with Misty at the Kangaroo that LE was stalking (for example), until we did our rewinds - after the fact.

Anyway, that's why it's my very strong opinion that LE was quite careful to make sure Misty would not qualify for Youthful Offender status and waited for her to reach the age of majority before making their move.

And yes, I should have said it's just IMO that Misty's has some kind of learning disability that made school difficult for her. She can't read close to the level she left school at (approx 6th grade, IIRC). Neither can her father Hank. Yet, she was in school through 6th grade at least. Reading happens by then unless you have some sort of learning difficulties. That doesn't mean I think she's not street smart and reasonably intelligent, and perhaps she will be able to learn to read in a prison program. But IMO, she has some sort of learning disability or a learning difference of some kind. It clearly wasn't properly addressed in whatever school experience she had. And her folks were aware of it. I have wondered if because Hank Sr. has found it so difficult to learn to read (and readily just admits he can't read), Misty's parents just accepted that she was like her daddy that way and didn't advocate at school on her behalf...but ... I digress.

I do agree with much of what you have said Emma. The only reason I mentioned the criminal justice system is in your prior post you list "law" and it isn't a law that only those 18 years of age or older are tried as an adult.

However on Misty's age and being eligible for YO, imo, it was shot to heck and back when she pleaded no contest to other multiple drug trafficking charges before she went before the first Judge. With her decision to do that made the Judge unable to look at YO as an option imo. She had a young woman who was doing multiple illegal drug transactions.

If this had been the only charge she had and was just led astray one time and had been talked into doing something because she was young and then decided it wasnt the right thing to do and refused to participate in continuing criminal activity then she should have been eligible for YO, imo.

But unfortunately that is just not the case. IMO, Misty would have continued to make drug deals until she was caught and imo the Judge and the investigators believed the same thing.

As I said I don't really have any knowledge of LE waiting until Misty was 18 but I do think they made very sure they had multiple charges on her where her mandatory minimum would be very harsh. She seems to be the main one they had in their cross hairs that is for sure. I think they knew all along they were never ever going to offer Misty Croslin a plea deal, imo.

 

[Searchfortruth]

I still HAVE to have hope that these drug sentences aren't the end, as far as justice for Haleigh is concerned.

In no way do I believe that Misty was the ring leader of this "trafficking organization"...if you can even call it that. Was there posession with intent to sell/ distribute ? Yes. Could the state have charged them with that, instead of trafficking charges...yes. Misty was no ring leader here, Ron was just as involved, if not more, and he got off with 15 years, with charges dropped to boot.

My ONLY hope, is that Misty and/or Tommy are going to testify against Ron in Haleigh's disappearance and death. Tommy, for some reason is still at St Johns County Jail...Misty was moved to prison (Lowell), while she has more drug charges in Putnam Co. to answer to. Something is not right with this scenario.

There has been one ring leader since Haleigh's disappearance (and most likely before that) and that is Ron. He chooses people who are younger than he is for a reason, he knows they are easier to manipulate and manipulate is what Ron does best. He's been given every break, by LE, for his past drug charges. I hope the states atty is ready to give the guilty the punishment they deserve. Haleigh deserves justice...no matter who has to pay the price.

The above is mostly my opinion based on what I have read and heard concerning this case...and my opinions are pretty much set in stone.

 

[Concerned Papa]

One of these two was a drug trafficking &#8220;Kingpin&#8221; while the other was a co conspirator underling being directed to do the bidding of the boss. Suppose you were a &#8220;Drug Lord&#8221; and were taking applications for the job position of &#8220;Kingpin&#8221;. Which of these two seems best qualified for the role?

EXPERIENCE

-Almost eight years ago, one of these two was arrested for the following drug offenses while the other was only NINE YEARS OLD:

2002-12-12 POSSESSION OF COCAINE
2002-12-12 POSSESSION OF CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE
2002-12-12 POSSESSION OF CANNABIS UNDER 20 GRAMS
2002-12-12 POSSESSION OF DRUG WITHOUT PRESCRIPTION
2002-12-12 POSSESSION OF DRUG PARAPHERNALIA

-Five years ago, one of these two was arrested for the following drug offenses while the other was just THIRTEEN YEARS OLD.

10/18/2005 - POSS CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE NO PRESC
10/18/2005 - POSS CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE NO PRESC
10/18/2005 - NARCOTIC EQUIPTMENT POSS/USE
10/18/2005 - VIOLATION DV INJUNCTION
10/18/2005 - POSS NEW LEGEND DRUG NO PRESC.

-The other one had never even had a ticket for jaywalking.

KNOWLEDGE OF LOCAL SOURCES

-One of these two had lived in the market area their entire life and appears to have been immersed in the drug culture for at least 10 years.

-The other one had only lived in the market area less than two years.

LEADERSHIP AND MARKETING SKILLS

-While under recent surveillance video, one of these two was recorded saying the following:

&#8220;there&#8217;s 9 of them there&#8221;

&#8220;$7 a piece, nine of em, 63 bucks&#8221;

&#8220;but them yellow Percocets man, I&#8217;m gonna have to get $8 for them, but there&#8217;s gonna be 50 of them!&#8221;

&#8220;there&#8217;s 27 of em&#8221;

&#8220;I guarantee you there&#8217;s 50 Percocets right around the corner there&#8221;

&#8220;I don&#8217;t know if you do Roxies......I can get them&#8221;

&#8220;it&#8217;s gonna take a couple of days for ME to get rid of 200 of em now&#8221;

&#8220;I&#8217;ll get it for you, no problem&#8221;

-The other one had a sixth grade education and recently didn&#8217;t even know what a numerical was.

Who was the real "Kingpin"?

 

[Baznme]

One of these two was a drug trafficking “Kingpin” while the other was a co conspirator underling being directed to do the bidding of the boss. Suppose you were a “Drug Lord” and were taking applications for the job position of “Kingpin”. Which of these two seems best qualified for the role?

EXPERIENCE

-Almost eight years ago, one of these two was arrested for the following drug offenses while the other was only NINE YEARS OLD:

2002-12-12 POSSESSION OF COCAINE
2002-12-12 POSSESSION OF CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE
2002-12-12 POSSESSION OF CANNABIS UNDER 20 GRAMS
2002-12-12 POSSESSION OF DRUG WITHOUT PRESCRIPTION
2002-12-12 POSSESSION OF DRUG PARAPHERNALIA

-Five years ago, one of these two was arrested for the following drug offenses while the other was just THIRTEEN YEARS OLD.

10/18/2005 - POSS CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE NO PRESC
10/18/2005 - POSS CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE NO PRESC
10/18/2005 - NARCOTIC EQUIPTMENT POSS/USE
10/18/2005 - VIOLATION DV INJUNCTION
10/18/2005 - POSS NEW LEGEND DRUG NO PRESC.

-The other one had never even had a ticket for jaywalking.

KNOWLEDGE OF LOCAL SOURCES

-One of these two had lived in the market area their entire life and appears to have been immersed in the drug culture for at least 10 years.

-The other one had only lived in the market area less than two years.

LEADERSHIP AND MARKETING SKILLS

-While under recent surveillance video, one of these two was recorded saying the following:



-The other one had a sixth grade education and recently didn’t even know what a numerical was.

Who was the real "Kingpin"?

There it is in black and white as far as I'm concerned Papa. Apparantly, PCSO doesn't know what "numerical" really means either.

 

[SoSueMe]

It's a little late for a defense strategy. IMO, the charge to beat would have been the case in St. John's County. It looked to me like Misty was along for the ride.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

It's a little late for a defense strategy. IMO, the charge to beat would have been the case in St. John's County. It looked to me like Misty was along for the ride.

Imo, a drug trafficker cant be just along for the ride when they are doing more drug dealings than anyone else without all the group participating.

Now did some of them get caught because they were just rode along with Misty when she was drug trafficking? Possibly.

IMO

 

[oceanblueeyes]

There it is in black and white as far as I'm concerned Papa. Apparantly, PCSO doesn't know what "numerical" really means either.

I think the police knows what happened 5 or 10 years ago has nothing to do with who participated or who was the kingpin in the 2010 arrests.

LE has a reason to know Misty was the main drug dealer when Agent Smith stated so. As Emma said LE were watching their every move so they know much more about what Misty's wheeling and dealings where than any of us, imo.

IMO