Defense to examine the Sunfire this a.m.

[shelbar53]

I've searched and searched and can't find the myspace thread??? This is o/t but related. I haven't seen this document posted anywhere so, I thought I'd post it here. It's the defence's request for all myspace related information:

http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/Casey_Anthony_Subpoena.pdf

I wonder why this wasnt released to the public with the other document dump. I will ask around this site and I suggest you do that also it might get lost in this thread.

 

[IrishSweetOne]

http://www.drhenrylee.com/about/


Got this from Dr. Lee's site
Experience
Chief Emeritus, Division of Scientific Services
Commissioner, Connecticut Department of Public Safety
Chief Criminalist, State of Connecticut
Director, Connecticut State Police Forensic Science Laboratory
Professor, Forensic Science Program, University of New Haven
Research Scientist, New York University Medical Center
Captain, Taipei Police Headquarters, Taiwan



Education
Doctor of Science - 2002
Honorary Degree
American International College, Springfield, MA

Doctor of Humane Letters - 1999
Honorary Degree
Bridgeport University, Bridgeport, CT

Doctor of Law - 1997
Honorary Degree
Williams Law School, Newport, RI

Doctor of Humane Letters - 1996
Honorary Degree
Saint Joseph College, West Hartford, CT

Doctor of Science - 1990
Honorary Degree
University of New Haven, West Haven, CT

Phd - 1975
Biochemistry
New York University, New York, NY

MS - 1974
Science
New York University, New York, NY

Dr. H. C. Lee
Curriculum Vitae
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BS - 1972
Forensic Science
John Jay College of Criminal Justice, New York, NY

Degree -1960
Police Science
Central Police College, Taiwan, Republic of China

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Attended special training courses offered by FBI Academy, ATF, post graduate schools, post medical school and professional organizations.


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Member or officer of the following professional organizations: Northeastern Association of Forensic Scientists, American Academy of Forensic Sciences, England Forensic Science Society, American Academy of Criminal Justice, Northeastern Criminal Justice Educator's Association, International Association of Identification, New York Academy of Science, American Association for the Advancement of Science, American Society for Testing and Materials, American Society of Crime Laboratory Directors, International Association of Forensic Science, Association of Official Analytical Chemists, Connecticut Chromatography Council, The Fingerprint Society, International Association of Bloodpattern Analysis, International Homicide Investigator's Association, International Society of Forensic Haemogenetics.

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Adjunct Professor for John Jay College of Criminal Justice, City University of New York, Northeastern University, University of Bridgeport, Western Connecticut State University, Yale University, Seton Hall University, University of Connecticut Law School, Quinnipiac University Law School, China People's University, Central Connecticut State University, the University of Connecticut Medical Center, Quinnipiac College, Lecturer for Connecticut State Police Academy, National College of District Attorneys, Municipal Police Training Academies in; Maine, Vermont, Massachusetts, California, Florida, Georgia, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Texas, Utah, West Virginia, Taiwan China, Dubai, Mexico, Singapore, and Thailand.



Workshops/Seminars
Conducted and instructed over 500 workshops and seminars in the topics of crime scene investigation, crime scene reconstruction, Forensic Medicine, Forensic Serology, In-Service Bilingual Education, Security Workshop for Senior Citizens, Fire and Arson Investigation, Latent Fingerprints, Forensic Science Seminar for Attorneys, Forensic Paternity, Forensic Pathology, Burglary Investigation, Forensic Science Workshop for Public Defenders, Advanced Analysis of Body Fluids, Physical Evidence and Forensic Pathology, The Analysis of Sexual Assault Evidence, Basic and Advanced Homicide Investigation, Basic and Advanced Crime Scene Investigation, Serology, Superglue Techniques, Child Abuse Workshop, Rape Investigation, Bloodstain Pattern Analysis, Significance of Bloodstain Evidence, Forensic Science, Medicolegal Investigation of Unexpected Death, Traffic Accident Reconstruction, Electrophoresis and Isoelectric Focusing, PCR-DNA typing, DNA-RFLP Analysis, Forensic Application of DNA Evidence, Basic and Advanced Crime Scene Reconstruction, Cause and Origin Analysis, Traffic Accident Cause Analysis, Mass Disaster Investigation.

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New Jersey Burlington County Forensic Science Laboratory, Connecticut State Public Defender's Office, Technical Advisory Services for Attorneys, PRC Public Management Services, University of Alabama, John Jay College of Criminal Justice, University of South Carolina, Elmira College of New York, National Institute of Justice, Maine State Police, Delaware Department of Justice, Allegheny County Department of Laboratory, Rothman Architecture Inc., Public Defender's Offices in Rhode Island, New Hampshire, Delaware, Virginia, New York, New Jersey, District Attorney's Offices in Massachusetts, Maine, Delaware, New Jersey, Jefferson Parish, Florida, Pennsylvania, Alaska, New York, Hawaii, Montana, California, Louisiana, Mississippi, New Hampshire, Vermont, West Virginia, U.S. Congress O.T.A., Department of Justice, Taiwan National Police Bureau of Criminal Investigation and other police, fire and law enforcement agencies.


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Received numerous awards, citations and commendations from law enforcement agencies, police departments, fire services, State Governments and Universities in the U.S. and abroad for the contribution and services in forensic science and criminal investigation, including; Teacher of the Year Award, University of New Haven, Alumni Achievement Award from John Jay College of Criminal and Taiwan Central Police college, Distinguished Manager Award, Distinguished Criminalist Award from the Academy of Forensic Sciences, Donero Award from International Association of Identification, Distinguished Fellow, American Academy of Forensic Sciences.

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Has served on national and international committees in forensic science, criminal justice, education, training, etc. Also has served as a Ph.D. thesis referee and graduate degree advisor, program evaluator, proposal reviewer, and laboratory inspector for many agencies and professional organizations.


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Authored or co-authored 20 books, major chapters and reports, and published about 300 articles in professional journals covering the topics in chemistry, instrumental analysis, serology, DNA, forensic science, trace evidence, fingerprints, bloodstain pattern analysis, crime scene investigation, crime scene reconstruction, education and criminal justice.

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[Chezhire]

Lee's job will probably be to cast doubt on the Body Farm results and to confuse the jurors' minds about the decomposition in the trunk. Either the defense will go with "it wasn't Caylee" or "it wasn't human" depending on which they think is the best strategy. So count on Lee to attack the hair evidence or the VOC evidence--maybe both.

You will come to hate Henry Lee...

Exactly, Indigo, and the threshold issue for the prosecution will be the proof that Caylee was in the trunk - and for that, we go to the hair samples that were found therein. Following the expert testimony necessary for supporting and introducing these test results into evidence, the prosecution will then turn to presenting evidence and testimony supporting same that it was a deceased Caylee in that trunk. In practicality, the same expert will likely testify re: their opinion that the hair in the trunk came from Caylee + re: that Caylee was deceased prior to the time that hair separated from Caylee's scalp.

Following this, I'd expect to see the prosecution trot out the Body Farm evidence/expert report, supported by expert testimony for the introduction of same, which could then be rounded out by the prosecution's request that the jury have the opportunity to inspect/view the vehicle in question so that it might smell the smell being discussed.

The reason for the generalized order of evidence above is that without some evidence/expert testimony supporting the prosecution's contentions that a deceased Caylee was in that trunk, the defense would have a good shot at arguing that the inflammatory nature of the vehicle's smell outweighs any probative value re: the jury seeing/smelling the vehicle. (Defense: "Objeciton, Your Honor, as to relevance, etc., as we have *absolutely* NO IDEA who or what was in that trunk and/or caused it to have whatever smell the prosecution complains of today!")

 

[NancyT]

I wonder why this wasnt released to the public with the other document dump. I will ask around this site and I suggest you do that also it might get lost in this thread.

I guess I'm not understanding what the significance is? I do find it odd that this is supposedly a subpoena, but bears no signature from Judge Strickland. I do see the stamp, but I can't begin to read it.

 

[Themis]

I was thinking the same..

Btw, have cadaver dogs smelled the trunk and how did they react?

A trained and certified cadaver dog and trained and certified handler inspected the car. The dog alerted on the trunk. In fact, the dog jumped into the trunk!

 

[Chezhire]

SNIPPED:

http://www.drhenrylee.com/about/


Got this from Dr. Lee's site..."

:waitasec: Sure hope the prosecution (or someone here at WS???) has some time to really poke around in these "credentials."

Why? In a federal matter, where the issue of how the deceased passed away was critical to the merits (it was over benefits from an insurance policy insuring the deceased for a large sum of money, but the policy had certain exclusions, such the one reading that the death could not have been caused by or related to the deceased being intoxicated) I had the opportunity to depose the defense's "expert" forensic pathologist.

Prior to said deposition, I had my staff pick apart his CV/resume, and found that he'd listed universities and hospitals, etc., on his resume as places he was presentely and previously on staff - only he was NEVER on staff at these places, or he'd been on staff a lot shorted a time frame than he'd indicated. His "licenses" and certifications weren't quite what he'd listed, either.

He'd been admitted as an expert witness many times before in the federal courts, but apparently no one had ever really spent what I call "trench digging" time: calling up each and every place he'd listed to request a written confirmation re: whether or not he'd been on staff ever/presently/etc.

We settled the case within a few weeks following this - and my client was quite pleased. (This "expert" has not, to my knowledge, testified since.)

:clap: So I really, really hope someone has the time to do this homework for the prosecution!!!

 

[NancyT]

A trained and certified cadaver dog and trained and certified handler inspected the car. The dog alerted on the trunk. In fact, the dog jumped into the trunk!

I think this dog evidence is going to come in. I see no reason why it would be denied, but the defense tackling this type of evidence is pretty easy to counter. It will be up to jurors to decide what weight to give it. Myself, I wouldn't put much emphasis on it because I followed too many cases where the dogs got it wrong, or didn't hit at all. They couldn't even find Jessica Lunsford and she was right across the street. When Jennifer Wilbanks (SP? - runaway bride) fled, there wasn't a single dog that picked up her scent (though we wouldn't be talking cadaver with this case). I have however been blown away by one dog in particular. I don't recall which case it was, but a child was abducted, driven away in an automobile which went onto a highway, and this amazing dog followed the scent along the side of the road (shed skin cells) and they were able to track the little girl's whereabouts. It was the most amazing thing I'd ever seen. Ultimately, she was murdered, but the perp was apprehended.

Sometimes though, I do think it's Voo Doo science. There are excellent dogs out there and dogs that couldn't hit on anything out there. Since the dog cannot speak (technically), it's not always easy to understand which is which.

Still, I do think the average juror does want to believe that dogs evidence is very reliable.

 

[NancyT]

:waitasec: Sure hope the prosecution (or someone here at WS???) has some time to really poke around in these "credentials."

Why? In a federal matter, where the issue of how the deceased passed away was critical to the merits (it was over benefits from an insurance policy insuring the deceased for a large sum of money, but the policy had certain exclusions, such the one reading that the death could not have been caused by or related to the deceased being intoxicated) I had the opportunity to depose the defense's "expert" forensic pathologist.

Prior to said deposition, I had my staff pick apart his CV/resume, and found that he'd listed universities and hospitals, etc., on his resume as places he was presentely and previously on staff - only he was NEVER on staff at these places, or he'd been on staff a lot shorted a time frame than he'd indicated. His "licenses" and certifications weren't quite what he'd listed, either.

He'd been admitted as an expert witness many times before in the federal courts, but apparently no one had ever really spent what I call "trench digging" time: calling up each and every place he'd listed to request a written confirmation re: whether or not he'd been on staff ever/presently/etc.

We settled the case within a few weeks following this - and my client was quite pleased. (This "expert" has not, to my knowledge, testified since.)

:clap: So I really, really hope someone has the time to do this homework for the prosecution!!!

I think Alan Jackson really looked at his record. He even sent away for his transcripts. I believe you were to mail the request to the school, but prosecutors I believe sent someone directly to the school to pick up those transcripts. It could be vice versa, but whichever way the school was approached, it was the wrong way, so at that time, the transcripts were not turned over. Now, Alan Jackson may have eventually gotten them, but if so, it was too late in the game since Henry Lee would have already testified in the mini trial within a trial of the Phil Spector case.

I honestly believe that prosecutors in this case should place a call out to CA and speak directly to Alan Jackson. If there is anything to dig up, I'd bet my last dollar that they already dug it up.

I'd also bet my last dollar that as long as Alan Jackson is trying a case, Henry Lee will NEVER agree to testify as an expert witness in any such case. LOL

 

[amyLynn]

UPDATES:

Famed forensic expert inspecting evidence
12:59 p.m.

High-profile forensic expert Henry Lee is inspecting evidence from Casey Anthony's car right now. Lee, an expert for the defense, is in a forensic lab inside the garage near Anthony's car. He is inspecting carpet from the trunk and the tire cover, said Capt. Angelo Nieves, who said the horrible smell from the trunk is still present, Nieves said.

Jose Baez, Anthony's attorney, is standing nearby during the examination but is not participating.

The car will be moved into another garage bay by an Orange County Sheriff's crime scene technician.

Check back for updates.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/crime/orl-casey-anthony-car111408,0,4304861.story

I don't know if this has been mentioned here already so I'm just going to put this here. I saw on TV a person who had a car just like Casey's Sunfire (same model and year). It was very interesting to see that the back seats folded down directly into the trunk. Each side folded down seperately. I know Caylee's carseat was on one side. I was thinking how easy it would be for Casey to drug Caylee in the car, fold down the free back seat and put Caylee in the trunk without even exiting the car. She wouldn't even have been seen doing that. She could have had a "bed" in the trunk, blanket and pillow for the child. Once she put the seat back up, no one would know. She could have slightly unlatched the carseat side for air, but it could not be moved forward because of the carseat,so Caylee could not get out if she woke up.
This scenario could have been her built in "babysitter" for awhile. My 3 year old granddaughter is just starting to talk about her day at daycare. Caylee was old enough to start talking about her day also. Just curious about what anyone else thinks about any of this.

 

[tiredofthis]

I don't know if this has been mentioned here already so I'm just going to put this here. I saw on TV a person who had a car just like Casey's Sunfire (same model and year). It was very interesting to see that the back seats folded down directly into the trunk. Each side folded down seperately. I know Caylee's carseat was on one side. I was thinking how easy it would be for Casey to drug Caylee in the car, fold down the free back seat and put Caylee in the trunk without even exiting the car. She wouldn't even have been seen doing that. She could have had a "bed" in the trunk, blanket and pillow for the child. Once she put the seat back up, no one would know. She could have slightly unlatched the carseat side for air, but it could not be moved forward because of the carseat,so Caylee could not get out if she woke up.
This scenario could have been her built in "babysitter" for awhile. My 3 year old granddaughter is just starting to talk about her day at daycare. Caylee was old enough to start talking about her day also. Just curious about what anyone else thinks about any of this.

It could have happened that way. I just can't shake the feeling that KC drove around with Caylee alive in the trunk for a couple of days and Caylee died of heat stroke. What if she dumped her in there and didn't go back to check on her for a while? As much as I want to believe it, I don't think Caylee died peacefully.

 

[amyLynn]

I know what you mean. I am a nurse and I can't help thinking how some people wake up from recovery after surgery. They are often nauseated and you have to be very careful that patients don't choke if they vomit(sorry) and are not awake enough to expel it. I keep thinking that Caylee may have died that way. No clear airway. No telling what drugs Casey used to drug her child. Besides her homemade Chloroform, she may have also sedated her with something like Benadryl. How Cindy can say Casey loved that child is beyond me. How could any mother so coldly risk her child's life so she could be free to party?

 

[tiredofthis]

I know what you mean. I am a nurse and I can't help thinking how some people wake up from recovery after surgery. They are often nauseated and you have to be very careful that patients don't choke if they vomit(sorry) and are not awake enough to expel it. I keep thinking that Caylee may have died that way. No clear airway. No telling what drugs Casey used to drug her child. Besides her homemade Chloroform, she may have also sedated her with something like Benadryl. How Cindy can say Casey loved that child is beyond me. How could any mother so coldly risk her child's life so she could be free to party?

I still feel that KC suffered from severe post partum depression. She probably never bonded with Caylee and didn't consider her to be her child.
Sometimes post partum depression goes undiagnosed and can turn into psychosis.

 

[LI_Mom]

I still feel that KC suffered from severe post partum depression. She probably never bonded with Caylee and didn't consider her to be her child.
Sometimes post partum depression goes undiagnosed and can turn into psychosis.

It will be an uphill battle to get any jury to buy a defense that she had post-partum when her mother has spent 4 plus months telling the public what a 'good mother' Casey was.

Even Casey's friends said Casey was a 'good mother.'

 

[tiredofthis]

It will be an uphill battle to get any jury to buy a defense that she had post-partum when her mother has spent 4 plus months telling the public what a 'good mother' Casey was.

Even Casey's friends said Casey was a 'good mother.'

I don't think a jury would ever buy that she had post partum depression, but it doesn't mean that she didn't have it. You can still suffer from post partum depression and appear to be a 'good mother' to the people around you.

 

[Celt1997]

It will be an uphill battle to get any jury to buy a defense that she had post-partum when her mother has spent 4 plus months telling the public what a 'good mother' Casey was.

Even Casey's friends said Casey was a 'good mother.'

I don't know if I'd buy a PPD defense, but it is important to point out that PPD can be a very personal and secretive problem. The person can be very "normal" to those around them, but it's the thoughts and processes on the inside that build up and become the problem. It is also possible to hold onto that PPD for several years and it can become very dangerous if that resentment stays bottled up for that long without any help.

The sister-in-law of a very good friend of mine suffered silently for 2 full years before she finally broke down in front of a group of us one night. Some of the thoughts she told us she had about her son were very frightening to hear, but she has since been through therapy and her and her son are in very strong and loving relationship!

 

[tiredofthis]

I don't know if I'd buy a PPD defense, but it is important to point out that PPD can be a very personal and secretive problem. The person can be very "normal" to those around them, but it's the thoughts and processes on the inside that build up and become the problem. It is also possible to hold onto that PPD for several years and it can become very dangerous if that resentment stays bottled up for that long without any help.

The sister-in-law of a very good friend of mine suffered silently for 2 full years before she finally broke down in front of a group of us one night. Some of the thoughts she told us she had about her son were very frightening to hear, but she has since been through therapy and her and her son are in very strong and loving relationship!

Thanks for your post. I agree that a lot of women suffer silently with it, because of the way it is viewed in society. Women are suppose to immediately love their children when they are born and sometimes there is a chemical imbalance which prevents that from happening.

 

[Chezhire]

If Dr. Lee generates a written expert report then, yes, the state will get it in advance. If there's no written report, then we'll have to wait to see what he has to say at trial.

Caveat: unless, of course, he is deposed prior to the criminal trial, which is a possibility.